@Troll Trollsen is troll upset or troll use logic instead of specious argument? Fuck off.

So why do we still have "fascists"?

So wait, how does this make him a rebel? The Government, Corporations, Media, and general normie consensus all fight and hate fascists, lol. He has the backing of the entire system, this doesn't make him a rebel. He hits all of the same old tired liberal talking points, unfortunately for Chris, he is outdated and people no longer care about his rhetoric. It is no different from the Democrats of the 90's. This is just an old boomer virtue signaling about his "activism" days, wow such wow. Nothing more than an empty puff piece, to fan the balls of a cuckold journalist who effectively toed the neoliberal line long enough to get somewhat noticed.. "If everybody in power doesn't dislike you, then you are probably not doing your job", then why Chris does seemingly everyone in power love and support you? By his own logic we are left to conclude, that Chris is neither a rebel nor a "freedom fighter"; for the very system he claims to oppose at every turn supports his "rebellious journalism". 10/10 for the mental masturbation tho.

@Troll Trollsen How in the world does "Fuck Off" make me sad? I won't ever understand the tribal aspect. There is no need to bring them into this. Who told you?

bINGO

+Derrick Wade Hedges is a hypocrite. He doesn't understand struggle.

+Derrick Wade Why do you have to use word "Dark" its a racist way to describe bad times!

+yeaaboyy So a guy who covered stories in the middle of an active warzone doesn't understand struggle? alrighty then.

Amen bro he cant even get on tv that much anymore and if they power that he talks about had their way he would be like chompsky persona non grata

+Derrick Wade Really considering how awful UKposts under google has become I'm actually surprised that its even up hear. I guess there's a certain amount of tracking that they can do on VICE so its ok for them to make money. All the other sites like "Storm Clouds Building" have been stopped from monetizing their videos despite no vulger content. Google is just another tool for the heroine peddling CIA FBI cowards.

He does the rounds of small US entities with MOOCs such as the Sanctuary for Independent Media which is in North Troy Capital District of NYS. US

He's suppressed for a reason. Why let the lemmings attempt to learn about their decaying cage even we can just keep them asleep with bread and circuses.

He is suppressed intentionally like Ralph Nader do you see them in mainstream media of course not.

A national treasure if you’re Russia

The reason why Chris Hedges is not heard more is that he has nothing interesting to say. He's not Christopher Hitchens by any means. He's just a preacher.

It must be a nightmare for you, I Feel Your Pain and agree with your name.

ennui1812 I don't know where you got that , but that's like a perfect rap verse right there: /My upper middle class roots /Are out or sync /With the physical reality /Of precious little opportunity /For future generations /Make no mistake U.S. /The corporate America /Is out to get us !

the guy is brilliant that's why he was fired from the NY Times

@@jrmurphypoet Kia Ora bro, I tautoko that whakaaro

3 years on and holy shittttt

the first 27 seconds basically summed him up, a lot to say, shame its all fact bending shit, stay off of vice.

I agree!

***** salon sometimes and try to follow people you know are good like this guy hedges,jeremy shcahill,glenn greenwald,naomi klein etc etc....there are some good journalists out there democracy now amy goodman but you have to take everything with a grain of salt and know that good people can get it wrong too through no fault of their own

+legendray2008 "those of us of who care about the truth" well, in that case the conversation around truth goes on without you, hedger. this dude is a monotheist charlatan minister. he's al sharpton with an education. he wandered around MENA trying to get a vibe and whilst never asking the difficult questions. of course he never would because he denies the link between belief and behavior. dude lacks basic integrity and intellectual honest around the biggest question of all - the crippling and gravely retarded ideology called faith ,that has put a veto on relations between peoples. like Al Sharpon, he lives in the prison of his parents abject slave desires. Chris hedges? sell short!

Fuck hedges. I want more hipster please

Yes I almost sub than seen this was so old of à video and was vice .. making the guy reporter at start of video who asked if for hedge he really felt journalistes tell news in their bent ways of perspectives and is to sell what they belive and want to vent on basically.. And on vice of all places ..the reporter tried to look shock that journalisme could ever be defined as so ..because you know ..vice is so alt right and conservative at times its just so obvious.. yes this was sarcasme about them always reporting news with a dem supporting perspectives and liberal bias vibe checking all constantly when pick what to report on and how to frame it..not that you needed the sarcasme explanation as all know of vice bias and sold out long ago ..a shame if they stuck to actually just doing documentaires to prove their ideology and case instead of ended up just another saying what other médias and gov desires like rest of news Chanels on our old TV networks.. lol they all start off new, hip , truth tellers, hard hitting news, than when they make bank they sell off as gained to much power of influence to not hijack towards narratives that work in gov favor not truth or better for citizens ..when they mention politics and so forth now so clear today .. RIP vice

Usually Vice has a lot of pro war and corporate propaganda, I'm suprised they let Chris Hedges on the show.

Totally agree. Those who are unfamiliar with him should make the effort to find one of the many interviews of him where he talks about how he became who he is.

@@gswovoka6286 Indeed, when he recounts the fall of Yugoslavia and the Stasi state with the wall it's downright chilling when you line up the parallels...

It is time to destroy the corporations,the Capitalist system it is killing you,in slaving,you raping you, stealing from you, improvish you,will you rise up to destroy your slave masters or will you be exterminated by your slave masters. Will be turn ground into food for the rich?Regulate, control,oppress, your slave masters.

He keeps saying he has “seen societies fall“ -sounds to me like he has seen one society, Yugoslavia - which was a 45 year train wreck by the time it came apart in the 1990s

@@timrichardson518 upvote

Where do you people get the idea that you are the enemies of the super rich. The super rich are your buddies 65% of their votes & 70% of their contributions go to leftists. BLM & antifa are largely funded by the super rich . Hellyweird & Soros are 2 obvious examples but far from the only ones.

Agree Katt; but question the tense. It is and came to America, a long time ago.

Katt Hudson I believe that quote is from Sinclair Lewis

Correction: I made a check and now it appears that neither Lewis nor Wise said those exact words, but rather something similar to them. But, they should have!

operation paperclip.

That happened already in the 50's fascism is the reason my we don't speak french in Louisiana anymore. Is the reason why black people where terrorized back then.. fascism

+Laz Andres Mesa Great post!

yes, sir. That's exactly what I sensed in Mr Hedges ' final words of this interview and yes, I was equally shocked and disappointed by the Obama interview. I thought it was an awful move from Vice. Naive and pretentious and the potential beginning of a slippery slope... I also dislike the fact that Eddie Moretti can sit 52 min with Cody Wilson and we get served 16 min with Chris Hedges hosted by a kid who scoffs when he says revolution is America's last hope... In my opinion we will lose Vice eventually, it's just a question of time. That Obama move is not the kind of thing you ever recover or come back from. Vice will end up becoming a liberal propaganda tool to harness the youth, heat up LGBT activists and SJW with begger mentality, no longer a greety raw independent media of truth.

+Kriztofer Plitzkin Words of wisdom. Thanks!

exactly. smith is above his pay grade when he sat down with obama. plus 2008 was SEVEN years ago. this could be forgiven back then. but not now

Thanks, Mark.

"Oh man!, oh man!, oh man!, I'm talking with Chris Hedges!, eeeeeeeeek!" XDDDDDD

I see what looks like skepticism and contempt, and a sort of Tucker Carlson-esque perpetual feigning of some confused intrigue.

I think it might be gas or constipation.

I see a completely vacant mind

Arkheno agreed

Matt- see you everywhere on the comments section

Two? Maybe Three?

Arkheno he is really conical. We can turn this around. Women's march showed hope.

LOL I thought the same thing at the time. sooooo hipster. still worth watching the rest though

+THOMAS CARNACKI Indeed... he wanted sound so "rebel"...

seen some dark shit, brah

I mean let's face it. vice is global news for hipsters. so we can't really complain

+THOMAS CARNACKI they're two liberals interviewing each other, you can smell the sense of superiority and ego in the room, even though both are nobobies

Remember this interview was four year ago and VICE as seen changed ownership and leadership. VICE is now domestic propagana in private ownership by Rubert Murdodch (FOX news) Ratheon and other M.I.C. corporations. Some more information on VICE ukposts.info/have/v-deo/o4mrh36gqJCqopc.html

+Shiloh Silverman what do you think of his plagiarism and lack of apology?

+Katerina Garin Just google it. It's not a very pretty story.

+SYLBM I don't know.

***** People can be both assholes and make big mistakes and still have something valuable to bring to the table.

+Shiloh Silverman "those of us of who care about the truth" well, in that case the conversation around truth goes on without you, hedger. this dude is a monotheist charlatan minister. he's al sharpton with an education. he wandered around MENA trying to get a vibe and whilst never asking the difficult questions. of course he never would because he denies the link between belief and behavior. dude lacks basic integrity and intellectual honest around the biggest question of all - the crippling and gravely retarded ideology called faith ,that has put a veto on relations between peoples. like Al Sharpon, he lives in the prison of his parents abject slave desires. Chris hedges? sell short!

This comment aged horribly.

+Shermingtan WTF JON DIED?

+mcrettable oh shit you didn't know

+Shermingtan he's high on something. look at his pupils

+Shermingtan LAMO

+Shermingtan Aaahahahah, holy shit, he does!

indeed vice is falling off again, if they can pull of another interview it would be like Chris handing them a giant stick when they are holding onto the edge of the a mountain cliff

If they weren't mainstream media themselves, then they might do that. They are very much Neoliberal agenda themselves.

Beccalotte1021 Well they are owned by Disney, Rupert Murdoch, Discovery Channel. I keep trying to warn people that they are mixing right wing propaganda with liberal content. Ever notice how much geopolitical content gets mixed in? Pay Attention.

Zeitgeist is a right wing conspiracy movie so no to that but Richard Wolff and Robert Reich? And Cornell West? Yes to them

Indeed.

Oh, stfu. People talk how they like. Deal with it.

I'm in agreement Carrion.. that is an excellent observation and point! We have to weigh all sides!!

"some". PBS is a propaganda wing of the State without all the flair and fluff of CNN, Fox News and MSNBC and the big three letters, NBC, CBS, ABC

DM R where are we supposed to get unbiased news then?

@@rbrinks5 IMO PBS news hour pretty good as getting facts and headlines go. I think some people think it's a propaganda wing of the state because it's not always proclaiming a progressive revolutionary line, but not all news call for propaganda.

Absolutely true. I know it gets tedious to investigate who the board is, ect. I did do this for PBS. I like some of the programs but I consider while watching what their bias is. Also, depending upon what show, I keep in mind their historical shows can be quite inacurate. So, PBS is only one source of part of an entire picture.

pippin1962 Thanks for that. Will take a look.

He endorsed Obama's reelection bid and the official narrative on 9/11, plus trivialises the JFK assassination.

@@beingsshepherd Yeah he has failed us like the rest of academia... back then I didn't realize the vastness of the corruption and war on the people

+Cutie Patootie Senpai Research the brutality they've BEEN committing to preserve it; just more of that and worse. Prepare, brothers and sisters

+Frank Flores Exclusively resource based economic models - in the general sense of that phrase - are basically veiled communism. The only mechanism to regulate, distribute, or control resources is either a government or corporation; both will be just as hard to control as the current forms of them are now. I did some serious digging on the RBE economic model four or five years ago so I'm not exactly current with my information but ideas like the "Venus Project" are basically pipe dreams which neglect to address or blatantly disregard fundamental operational, philosophical, and ethical problems within the model. In the extreme, RBEs would be an almost neo-feudalism, but with mass surveillance and advanced algorithm technology with robot police.

+Ralph Klien Something to consider when waxing economic... Communism and capitalism differ only slightly, if at all. Current tax rates and the interbreeding of government and corporations in America land the US further on the socialist portion of government spectrum than most "communist" countries. There has not been, in fact, a true communist country to exist (nor has there existed the mythical "free market"). So-called communism/socialism thus far has merely been the control of an entire country's ways and means by a few decision-making elites while the product of the country's economy is "distributed evenly" among the citizen participants. Neither America's oligarchy-hiding-behind-reality-show government, nor any socialist country's here's-what's-left-for-you-slaves-after-elite-plundering system are actually one rigid form of government or another (facets projecting a spectrum). Humans are so black and white in their understanding, yet everything in nature has been found to register more spectrally. When envisioning an ideal economic scene for humanity, I think we have to consider scale first. Smaller organizations are naturally more transparent. Local organizations are naturally more responsive to local people and conditions. Someone in a DC penthouse has none of the practical knowledge or technical experience required to solve even the simplest of problems for a community thousands of miles away in a different climate and market. This is compounded when the communities are all small and unique, yet are bundled in with millions of faceless people in attempts to manage entire countries with blanket programs and extremely inefficient supply chain mock-ups. Things become more convoluted as you gain distance from ground zero. I argue that we should be arranging our governments at community scale, with greater private citizen participation. When you break down food and energy infrastructure, you find that efficiency is born out of localized production and minimal transport. When you look at nearly all human activities, true efficiency (not the distortions offered by the market and its many manipulators) starts with minimizing travel distances. The money system may tell you it is more efficient to use slave labor in China to process poultry raised AND sold in America, but the obvious technological and resource inefficiencies are overlooked because it is CHEAPER to engage in this enormously wasteful and DANGEROUS act. Though the proposed systems you mentioned are, "pipe dreams," they are the first looks into rearranging society to serve all of society, instead just serving high society. Speaking of pipe dreams... Do you think that the first poor Rothschild banker ever dreamed that his actions would enslave the entire world and all its people? Well that pipe dream is the apocalyptic nightmare of today. Nature has a tendency of generating designs that flow more efficiently over time. It is observed to be equilibrating in all things. The creative commons and local food and energy trends are the beginning of a re-routing of flows (which have been bottlenecked into the pools of the elite) which will help the economic system of our world achieve equilibration. Nature flows in interconnected tree-like patterns, and when human activity mimics this, efficiency is found. Generating production at community-scale, as opposed to global-scale, will decentralize control and generate greater income equality and public health wherever locally controlled systems are in place.

I agree and fully understand your many points. I too am an anarchist at heart. The main issue is the state. There will always be unconquerable problems when the state is our God.

+Troyous Ricciardi agreed