yep.. that itself was the main trick... that one line.. tcp listen..

java had that in 1995... ServerSocket for those asking After looking into c it has Socket.h so even in c its there...

It's not a programming language, it's the set of libraries it comes with. I think you are confusing two things here.

The standard libraries that come with the language, are they considered part of the language?

It's two syscalls to Linux kernel too. Not so heavy to implement that in any language that allows to do syscalls.

I write webservices for a living and I have that same energy when realizing I can cheat the system and completely ignore convention.

And runs on OpenBSD !

And uses Firefox

True

And uses gruvbox

he's too based

or write all of the code in one line, even if we dont strip down the server to the bare minimum, a full server is still just 1 line of code if you format it in such a way that its all on the same line.

@@ai-spacedestructor isn't every application just one line of code/one function? main() {... } It's turtles all the way down.

Low level programmer:

@@vincei4252 depends on the programming language, im not too familiar with rust to know how that is exactly.

Nodejs😂

neovim and looks like alacritty as well

I fully expected Python, the Visual Basic of the modern age. It's the only reason I clicked the link, to see if I was right, since for any modern environment you can write a "web server" with three statements: import web library, set default response string, invoke the listener.

incredibly based.

you all sound like reddit and hn nerds absolutely cooming over a dude's setup.

@@hachikuku5226That's the point, poindexter.

email is of similar complexity.

Sure, when you have libraries in place that do all the actual on the ground stuff we don't see in the video.

@@Faladrinreally the only library he used was the tcplistener implementing the protocol was all up to him.

There's a degree of knowing I.T. being seen as knowing how to use Word and Excel. Been this way for a couple of decades at least. Very few people seem to know the basics.

Bet prof use Arch too btw.

Based on what?

Rust user, framework laptop and vim user. Mega based

Wonder when he's getting his bottom surgery.

And neovim and firefox

which rust book?

@@Gnarksonshould be chapter 20 in "the book" (referring to the official book)

@@NetherFX thanks

“What I’m doing is a crime against silicon” = writing some of the most ingenious code possible to write

No, not even close

​@@TAP7aif you think it's ingenuous then it's more about what you think than the code itself.

Genius or, more likely, brittle code only workable by the original author. Could be either. Could be both.

@@kevinmcdonough9097 Oh, very probably both 😜

highly paid serf is a happy and productive serf... : )

Difficult Rust can't be as bad as "modern" C++ with templates and meta-programming? Can it?

@@vincei4252 unfortunately I can't make this comparison since I barely know C++, let alone "modern" C++. Rust does meta-programming using things called macros - from what I've heard, they're quite powerful and reasonably easy to understand? Though they're definitely WIP, so there're a couple of rough edges here and there. There was a talk recently, called something like "Anything you can do, I can do it worse with macro_rules!", where the host showed a somewhat extreme example - a macro they created that can automatically create a fully functional XML representation of a token tree of Rust code

This code will be very similar on any language, really. Even the ones with no sugar added.

@@vincei4252they’re as bad as each other syntactically, Rust is probably a little more coherent, but the precision demanded by the Rust compiler is simultaneously much more reassuring and frustrating. Whereas modern C++ is less coherent, but quicker to get running, but only if you accept all the footguns that come with it.

"Those libraries" he's using one library and it's the relatively tiny Rust standard library. Try writing to stdout in less than 25 lines without calling 50 lines of C or another binary that does just that.

​@@CramBLNot wrong in spirit, but "call the SYS_WRITE syscall" is like 5 lines of assembly, or a hardware serial port equivalent in low-level systems

​@@CramBLOh stop. It's just a bait title. So much is going on behind the scenes. People slowly forgetting how much work has been done by others in the past, and it boils down to "in 25 lines". It's a bit tiring. And it's all going to be forgotten if anything major happens and people don't know how to fix the problems. Cos all we'll have are the imports and no one knows the magic inside. Just 1 billion lazy devs that know the 25 lines.

@@CramBL yea and try doing it without a kernel, that's even more lines!

Libraries like... the kernel??? That's where the whole IP stack and sockets are implemented. Even in assembly this code wouldn't be massively longer.

That's what he's saying. He's ignoring any safety concerns for this example like error handling or exploit fixing

interesting will try soon😂

How did making a Java web server go? Any tips?

TELESCOPE!!!

wait arent you teej the creator of telescope but you also stream on twitch?

Telescope, Lets GOOOOOO

timestamp 1:51 woooooooooooo

🔭 NeoVim without Telescope LITERALLY unusable 🔭

Pretty sure he was running FreeBSD, based on the browser's "user-agent", not Linux.

OpenBSD @@wbfaulk

​@@wbfaulk OpenBSD, even

@@smikkelbeer6352 dammit

the "I'm abusing this monstrously - agen"

I think he watched it on today’s stream, we’ll see if it gets posted.

25 lines of code plus 4.6 gigs of node packages for some reason 😂

I’m not sure it will ever be an accounting-esque profession. The amount of creativity involved and flexibility of tooling, and solutions are always going to be more open ended than accounting.

@@sofianikiforova7790 I agree but I think the creativity part of it is tied behind the language. once people can code in their native languages I think more or less the syntactical accuracy will become a matter of just putting the right structure in place. So, more or less like accounting. Similarly how people still do creative stuff with accounting (eg new ways of building ledgers like crypto) but the basic premise has converged onto a more or less singular agreed-upon convention. Computer Science was fighting that premise at its very core I think with several languages and several programming paradigms. But with the advent of AI the programming paradigms or "code structure" might become meaningless. A computer for example doesn't care if the JS file is minified or beautified. We do.

Can't get used to Rust syntax.

I think you could just start with // to get to the root

He acknowledged this insecurity.

@@sofianikiforova7790 Yes he does. I only showed one way to access directories you don't want other people to access. It wasn't meant as a "gotcha" moment. 😉

​@@Turalcar I'm not sure if it would have worked on that server, tbh. In any case, I would have written the comment in the same way as it makes it easier to read/recognize, and UKposts comments are not suitable for this as anything resembling a URL is easily caught by the scam filter.