Consciousness Unbound | An In-Depth Interview with Ed Kelly

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Dr Edward Kelly is a researcher and author who spent a career exploring the mysteries of consciousness. For him, the evidence is overwhelming: The materialistic worldview, now called physicalism, falls short. Consciousness is more than a product of brain activity, but most importantly, consciousness survives physical death.
Contents:
00:00:19 Introduction of Dr. Ed Kelly
00:06:42 Enthusiasm and endeavors 100 years ago
00:11:09 Did you have any remarkable results through all the years?
00:15:15 What got you involved with parapsychology in the first place?
00:17:36 Where are we in consciousness research today?
00:24:43 Reactions to publications
00:29:02 How do you think we're going to look back at today's naturalistic physicalistic view of the world or of the origin of consciousness in 100 years’ time?
00:31:54 What does it mean to explain something in idealistic terms or idealism?
00:34:58 What kind of a view of reality of the human being have you developed?
00:37:27 What do you think, what is consciousness, where does consciousness then come from if physicalism is wrong?
00:39:46 Do you think you've gathered enough evidence for the survival of consciousness after death?
00:41:38 So you would say apparitions, it's scientifically solid to say that they do happen?
00:44:06 Ian Stevenson
00:46:38 What about the mystical experiences?
00:54:22 When you read these reports like about Padre Pio, do you think they have validity?
00:56:13 What's your view on the on the beyond, the afterlife?
00:57:19 Do you think there is some kind of a connection to our inner life, of our thoughts, imaginations, dreams, aspirations?
00:58:27 What does the future hold for you? And for DoPS?
Credits:
Interview: Jens Rohrbeck
Editorial contribution: Heike Funke
Editor: Werner Huemer
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 83
@alicealexandrian6637
@alicealexandrian6637 2 роки тому
I'm overwhelmed with gratitude to be living during these times where I can listen to such truthful assertions. There's an inner knowing of this Truth, I don't have words to explain it. Thank you for sharing this.
@zelenplav1701
@zelenplav1701 2 роки тому
As a child of about 8 or 9 having has a serious sledding acvident, I had a Out of the Body Experience. Your conciousness and emotions are a part of YOU, not dependent on you having a physical brain.
@marybethroden5910
@marybethroden5910 2 роки тому
This was fascinating! Thank you. Vis-à-vis, levitation, I understand that there are several well-documented incidents of Indian yogis levitating, not to mention cases of Tibetan Buddhist monks demonstrating control over somatic responses. I think of consciousness as the current “last frontier” and that we’re only on the cusp of discovery. The sense of interconnectedness described by mystics and NDE experiencers is consistent with pre-Industrial Age worldviews that sustained our ancestors and current indigenous peoples. E.g., the “web of Wryd.” Yes - cause for optimism that if more people came to embrace that perspective, we might have a chance of saving ourselves and the planet.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 роки тому
First. Hehe
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 роки тому
#GoVegan 💚 Humans are proven in health studies to be best suited for the vegan lifestyle AKA plant-based. Some major diseases are exclusive to animal based diets. But you probably season animals, like I used to. We have mockups where you cannot tell the difference, and they'll even taste better. The pandemic was started by eating bats or by a Wuhan lab leak (which is now said to be 95% or so of certainty in this cause). Several outbreaks happen from animal agriculture. Even with this virus, scientists have warned of animal agriculture. The AMA (American Medical Association), the Physician's Committee, the largest study known as the China Study, and several other sources state that thousands of top doctors and evidence points to humans being plant-based. Even the latest science shows early ancestors were thriving on plant-based. Some worship the cow but there's a lot of recorded animal abuse there in India. They're the second largest producer of beef. Around the world, about 99% of animals come from factory farms and even regular farms tend to be pretty brutal on average, in overwhelming documentation. We've had several animal based companies go out of business, oh so thankfully. The largest and the oldest milk company in America went out of business recently after filing bankruptcy. Several milk companies have shut down. Vegan meat and vegan milk outsell their animal based counterparts when sold side by side. But only vegans in the small millions. The Canada food pyramid now has meat, dairy, eggs, and other animal products removed. The AMA is encouraging hospitals to replace processed meats and butter and such with plant-based alternatives. 75+ billion land animals are raped into the world each year, tortured, and murdered while around 1 billion humans starve a day. The main reason for pollution, droughts, and deforestation is animal agriculture. About 85% of antibiotics (which are synthetic ones that destroy good bacteria too) go to animal agriculture. Even then, plenty of cancer tumors and other things that get unchecked or barely treated before it's sent out to the public. That's while the meat literally rots as it sits around getting moved around until it's bought. Heart disease is the number one killer in America, mainly linked to animals, especially red meat. Type two diabetes is caused to humans by animal fat, officially. So on and so forth.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 роки тому
It's inconsistent with reality to have it at 18+ (when the brain fully develops at 25 anyways....) with the fake extremely profitable drug war and all. It's just age discrimination. Age of consent is a fairly new thing. By age thirteen, about 50% of girls engage in intercourse. Life expectancy has gone up over the years too but hormones are hormones for people of puberty.
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
It's all connected and we are slowly getting there. Unfortunately western religion uses FEAR and FEAR is counter productive to every aspect of learning and growth. It keeps one, in the same place with little to no growth. My opinion.
@lizafield9002
@lizafield9002 2 роки тому
Terrific. Deep bow of gratitude to Dr Kelly, Bruce Grayson & the gang at UVA, from the southwest mtns of VA.
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
Absolutely. The Fearless Gang of Scientists!
@pamelag.00
@pamelag.00 2 роки тому
Thank you Dr Kelly for this interview and all the research you have done.
@fredb2022
@fredb2022 2 роки тому
Amen
@tillyvickers2721
@tillyvickers2721 2 роки тому
Fascinating interview.Thank-you!❤❤ All my life I've been having spiritual transformative,experiences or brief glimpes of the other side. They may have lasted seconds, even fractions of seconds in our earthly time but they are the most precious of seconds, those that remain and inspire me.And so many millions too.About time science took these phenomena seriously.🙂🙋🏻‍♀️👌👌👌 Thank you so much for this great channel
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
Nicely said. I'm one of those millions.
@gyanlanevsky92
@gyanlanevsky92 2 роки тому
Grateful for this channel and these videos
@davidsillars3181
@davidsillars3181 2 роки тому
Dr Ed Kelly! Absolutely vital insights on the current views of science vis a vis consciousness. Excellent interview. Thanks.
@ritakooistra5899
@ritakooistra5899 2 роки тому
Finally I have found answers of all the "strange" apperitions and other stuff in my life. I'm not crazy 🙂. Reading all the books now on this subject. Thank you Thanatos and the great Ed Kelly!!!
@bridgetcampbell6629
@bridgetcampbell6629 2 роки тому
Wonderful interview, so glad to see this. Thank you so much for such an excellent discussion!
@tamaraterrymusic2656
@tamaraterrymusic2656 2 роки тому
Fabulous!! Thank you so much
@vagabondslot-machine8832
@vagabondslot-machine8832 2 роки тому
Such a lovely man, and a FIRST CLASS interview. Thank you so much
@JND-zf4sg
@JND-zf4sg 2 роки тому
Life on Earth is an ebb and flow of learning and advancement. The 20th century medicine made huge strides in disease control, anesthesia and surgery. These advances were nessacarry, now we can move to the mind body connection. We must always be mindful that when advancement are made in one arena other areas will be stunted.
2 роки тому
Don't share your optimism, 20 th century is dark age of human race by any means, despite some meager successes in science, medicine etc.. Much darker than real dark age. Spreading of "science", materialism , gread, capitalism and anglo-amerikanisation of world shall have huge negative consequences for earth and humanity in generations to came, if not disastrous. Mark my words!
@leofeza9325
@leofeza9325 2 роки тому
@ Mark, you sound like a very analytical guy. That's very good. Remember knowledge takes away innocence and the innocent ones will redeem us. We men make our journey from the heart to the head where we learn all that needs to be learned and then we go back into the heart. We all go back to Innocence eventually. Your time will come. 👍🏾
@pagantree
@pagantree 2 роки тому
Just what I needed! Thanks for these amazing videos Thanatos.
@Jaymielover
@Jaymielover 2 роки тому
Thank you for the videos. ☀️
@abcxyz8787
@abcxyz8787 2 роки тому
When I was attending my first class on physiological psychology in university, which was on my first semester and first year in university, the lecturer told us about his field of research which was the brain and how our thoughts, feelings etc. can be traced to brain activity, at the end of the lecture he gave us time for questions. I remember asking him something that came intuitively to me - I asked him, but how do you know that the brain is not an expression or an interface (I don't remember the exact word I used) of something else, meaning of a soul or something like that. He answered in a way that was rather dismissive and said - I don't deal with anything I can't measure. That was more than 30 years ago. I still remember it.
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
Yup. I think he might have also saying 'I don't deal with anything I can't wrap my brain around.' Whatever they are measuring, is only partially working.
@SpiritualDoctors
@SpiritualDoctors 2 роки тому
Read and Recommend David Hawkins 'Power vs Force' Muscle Kinesiology, Finger Kinesiology can measure Consciousness level. Love is 500
@annetteblank3883
@annetteblank3883 2 роки тому
Please all the books that were mentioned should be in the discriptsends so that you dont have to sit with pen and paper an couldnt follow the interview completley. It is so interesting im so happy that you do this work!!! Thank you!!
@MariaElena51185
@MariaElena51185 Рік тому
Yes, that would have been very helpful.
@lynwillmott3794
@lynwillmott3794 2 роки тому
Thanks Dr Kelly. When I hear the direction you are taking I am heartened. Along with this study of consciousness, cutting-edge science needs to consider the egocentric physical body which uses brainpower, and the consciousness of the interdimensional self which uses 'mind' as the intermediary.
@createone100
@createone100 2 роки тому
Check out 'Opening Heaven's Door' by Patricia Pearson. It is a study of mystical phenomena experienced by people under extreme duress. It is very well written, indeed.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 роки тому
First. Hehe
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 роки тому
#GoVegan 💚 Humans are proven in health studies to be best suited for the vegan lifestyle AKA plant-based. Some major diseases are exclusive to animal based diets. But you probably season animals, like I used to. We have mockups where you cannot tell the difference, and they'll even taste better. The pandemic was started by eating bats or by a Wuhan lab leak (which is now said to be 95% or so of certainty in this cause). Several outbreaks happen from animal agriculture. Even with this virus, scientists have warned of animal agriculture. The AMA (American Medical Association), the Physician's Committee, the largest study known as the China Study, and several other sources state that thousands of top doctors and evidence points to humans being plant-based. Even the latest science shows early ancestors were thriving on plant-based. Some worship the cow but there's a lot of recorded animal abuse there in India. They're the second largest producer of beef. Around the world, about 99% of animals come from factory farms and even regular farms tend to be pretty brutal on average, in overwhelming documentation. We've had several animal based companies go out of business, oh so thankfully. The largest and the oldest milk company in America went out of business recently after filing bankruptcy. Several milk companies have shut down. Vegan meat and vegan milk outsell their animal based counterparts when sold side by side. But only vegans in the small millions. The Canada food pyramid now has meat, dairy, eggs, and other animal products removed. The AMA is encouraging hospitals to replace processed meats and butter and such with plant-based alternatives. 75+ billion land animals are raped into the world each year, tortured, and murdered while around 1 billion humans starve a day. The main reason for pollution, droughts, and deforestation is animal agriculture. About 85% of antibiotics (which are synthetic ones that destroy good bacteria too) go to animal agriculture. Even then, plenty of cancer tumors and other things that get unchecked or barely treated before it's sent out to the public. That's while the meat literally rots as it sits around getting moved around until it's bought. Heart disease is the number one killer in America, mainly linked to animals, especially red meat. Type two diabetes is caused to humans by animal fat, officially. So on and so forth.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 роки тому
It's inconsistent with reality to have it at 18+ (when the brain fully develops at 25 anyways....) with the fake extremely profitable drug war and all. It's just age discrimination. Age of consent is a fairly new thing. By age thirteen, about 50% of girls engage in intercourse. Life expectancy has gone up over the years too but hormones are hormones for people of puberty.
@martinjupp4012
@martinjupp4012 2 роки тому
Fascinating thank you
@liminal3483
@liminal3483 2 роки тому
I wish this channel made a video about negative near death experiences. Tho a minority, some people have nightmarish experiences in these situations.
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
Yes. I have heard from other NDE'rs and researchers, that it may be our mindset of beliefs, whether it's a conscious thought or deep down fear...when we pass, we literally create that experience, till they realize they have 'Free Will' to choose a hell or the path to the light. Still a lot of unknowns though. To me, that makes perfect sense!
@martinwilliams9866
@martinwilliams9866 3 дні тому
With Telepathy try what I call "Environmental Matching," where the sensory inputs of two people are uniquely identical, as a "carrier wave" then input new information in one participant. When experienced meditators meditate their Brain waves phase lock with the 7.8 Schumann resonance, this is a change in a state of consciousness. The most likely mechanism for this is the transverse Hall effect, which effects the slower moving "Holes" in the analogue Glial network, as described in Robert Becker's "The Body Electric". I tend to think that Glial operating on neurons is voluntary attention, & neurons operating on Glial to be involentary attention. Regarding mystical experiences, I'm interested in the indirect consequences of them, as if they are self-delusional, we would expect other cognitive delusions to occur, but if authentic we would expect greater cognitive functioning, greater creativity etc.
@learningenglish9316
@learningenglish9316 2 роки тому
Fascinating
@wagfinpis
@wagfinpis 18 днів тому
These experiences seem to have almost no place in this world. Even if people come the long way around to accepting the possibility of NDE's, it is still a far greater jump to altering our actions, developing more appropriate language, and meaningful conversations that include the reality that your average NDE'r is left with. These experiences are significantly personal BECAUSE the world does not share in this shortcut to the light. Just accepting a little bit of this reality instantly turns the entire world upside down and inside out.
@AjitPatel53
@AjitPatel53 2 роки тому
Have you or Dr Kelly read the book, "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda? Any thoughts. Yogananda's body days after his passing remained intact without decay as most bodies do within hours. This is well documented. He also passed away consciously infront of hundreds of attendees at a talk by him including the governor of CA, and the Ambassador of India to the U.S.A.
@anneherman6745
@anneherman6745 2 роки тому
Love love love ❤️🍎
@AGGELIAFOROS
@AGGELIAFOROS 2 роки тому
Hi! Would you be interested in my personal experience? It is along similar lines as those discussed here.
@dominicdavies5687
@dominicdavies5687 2 роки тому
Does it give the ability to change past events?
@mahmoudhazzaa2015
@mahmoudhazzaa2015 2 роки тому
train the nursing staff to monitor and report such OBE incidences as protocol
@TootlesTart
@TootlesTart Рік тому
What is the name of the law student with uncanny psy-abilities who took part in the professor’s studies?
@bdm1000
@bdm1000 2 роки тому
I just have a comment about one thing that was mentioned more than once about NDEs. Dr. Kelly said they were mostly a positive and transformative experience for people, but if I remember correctly, they're also not very good for marriages. The person who underwent the NDE experience comes away from the experience a different person. Even if this is a good thing personally, interpersonally this may become a problem. He or she starts to value things differently than their marriage partner, s/he becomes less materialistic, possibly less career driven, and more spiritual while their spouse remains compatible, at best, with their personality prior the experience. I don't think the benefits should be discussed without mentioning the costs to personal relationships, especially when children may be affected. If anything, I would hope this would be an incentive for others to fund research into NDEs because, of course, we would like to benefit from a positive experience so long as the experiencer is able to prevent it from ending their marriage and adversely affecting other relationships with friends & family.
@barbarafairbanks4578
@barbarafairbanks4578 2 роки тому
Oddly enough...this morning I had a dream that I only recall a fragment of- someone telling a gentleman in my dream (a big man whom I felt I did not know, but felt an affinity for in the dream), and a rather sinister man telling this other man that his 'tests were in' - and 'just as we THOUGHT(!)...you have a FAT THALAMUS! ( I had forgotten about this dream fragment, but suddenly recalled it just now when Ed Kelly mentioned the thalamus😂) ...AND, as far as the thalamus being mentioned by Ed Kelly in this interview...idk- what was his point? I thought he mentioned writing a paper on the thalamus (?) Also, I watched an interview of Dr. Eben Alexander last night, on this channel. In the interview Dr. Alexander mentioned Ed Kelly and referenced one of his books. I searched for and reserved the book Online at my library last night. Then I have this weird dream about the thalamus! I do think the man I felt an affinity for in my dream was Ed Kelly (but have never seen him before today) - I only recall that he was a big man (not 'heavy', but a large frame), and was wearing glasses. I tuned into this interview today because Eben Alexander mentioned Kelly & his writings, in his interview.
@cynthiaennis3107
@cynthiaennis3107 2 роки тому
I just watched a lecture before watching this about remote viewing & I was wondering about what Ingo Swann saw on the Dark side of the Moon, interestingly also the song, Brain Damage & the album cover of a Pink Floyd album! Upon looking up Ingo Swann, I found the name Uri Geller & also looked him up! How very bizarre this Is! I started to watch this last night, but was too tired, so then I looked up those 2 men & I find one mentioned here! Too many coincidences! I’m assuming he means James Randi? J. McMoneagle mentioned it was so hard to remote view because the military didn’t believe them, oddly enough!
@gaya33gaya72
@gaya33gaya72 2 роки тому
What about journey of souls my Dr Michael Newton
@leofeza9325
@leofeza9325 2 роки тому
The brain is the receiver of CONSCIOUSNESS not the producer of it.
@moesypittounikos
@moesypittounikos 2 роки тому
The receiver idea is too dualistic. Better to say the brain is a reflection of consciousness. This way you can keep it more simple and without conjuring a substance consciousness with another substance material.
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
Yes and well said. A receiver. I believe there is a Brain consciousness and a Soul consciousness and in a NDE, both are connected and things happens. We are enlightened and changed because of this experience. Maybe this should be the New Science of connecting the two, without having to have an NDE. 'Fear & Free Will' have a HUGE impact in this area and can NOT be overlooked! Thanks Leo.
@Existentialist946
@Existentialist946 2 роки тому
@@moesypittounikos Either the brain produces consciousness, or it merely affects it in various ways. There is no 3rd option. The brain "being a reflection of consciousness" doesn't alter the fact that the brain modifies, attenuates, our consciousness in various ways.
@deckearns
@deckearns 2 роки тому
If we can receive data from the world around us in order for us to construct reality it is easy to also understand that we receive data that allows us to construct our 'self', our consciousness. Our brains are literally the instrument. Our consciousness is the musician that's breathes life into the instrument. This cannot happen there other way around.
@chrishowe8614
@chrishowe8614 2 роки тому
A bit off topic, but who is the composer of your short intro music? That sounds like music I'd like to hear more of!
@dansandulescu1366
@dansandulescu1366 2 роки тому
There is a lot of information, good to know, about the state of human knowledge today. I say 'state' because it also shows the sad inability to step also with the other foot over the threshold of the so-called 'beyond'. This is because the intellect born of dust will never be able to grasp the spiritual realities of the higher worlds, from which the earth only later formed by condensation and precipitation. Mr. Edward Kelly has rightly recognized that the approach to Reality must be made from „the opposite end”, so from the „Beginning of all beings and things”, but the same cause seems to have blocked him from accepting wholly the notion of „spirit”, which the intellect, the earthly tool of the spiritual being, cannot comprehend, as in his correct observation that artificial intelligence will never be able to understand human speech for accurate translation, because it lacks „self-awareness”, is insensitive, devoid of life! As in any discussion between two mature people who want to discover the Truth, Mr. Jens Rohrbeck could have helped with his knowledge not only his guest, but also many in the audience, if he had not kept it to himself! So all the research of the „scientists” on earth would continue to spin endlessly in this vicious circle, if they had the time, which is no longer given to them: for look how the whole earth is purified, being prepared for the promised Reign of the whole, unconcealed and not distorted Truth!
@laidir1000
@laidir1000 2 роки тому
Might NDE's actually be recapitulations of near birth experiences? Birth canal being dark tunnel. Blinding light being lamps of delivery room. And feelings of love being Obs/Gyne staff and/or parents/siblings reception?
@laidir1000
@laidir1000 2 роки тому
PS I hasten to add that I'm fully signed up to NDE's (and have already booked my own!) And remember my own Dad's death with certain uncanny experiences (ie "death bed visitors" (Fenwick).
@razony
@razony 2 роки тому
Interesting. But the experiences outside the body and the visuals one experiences are compelling. Might have allot to do with our present lives. Anxieties, Phobias, Obsessive compulsive disorders...Good point though.
@rayjack9946
@rayjack9946 2 місяці тому
The sharemarket acts based on a collective consiousness.
@cynthiaennis3107
@cynthiaennis3107 2 роки тому
I’m wondering what the truth is regarding what Joe McMoneagle (famous remote viewer for the US Army, for the Stargate program, experienced during both his NDEs! Two different things, he noticed! (Mentioned in his full 2004 Lecture)
@tenaciousspectre3383
@tenaciousspectre3383 10 місяців тому
It's a weaker energy mirror matrix hallucination that seems eternal outside the brain. The universe is looking back at itself through the lens of our eyes
@martinwilliams9866
@martinwilliams9866 3 дні тому
Meister Eckhart, Irfan, Babylon 5
@SpiritualDoctors
@SpiritualDoctors 2 роки тому
23:00 Time Anchors ⚓
@SpiritualDoctors
@SpiritualDoctors 2 роки тому
Parapsychology is reflection of Deep, Elevated Consciousness.
@daisy7442
@daisy7442 2 роки тому
I do not understand why it's so hard to accept that we are one of the organisms emerged from the universe like all other organisms..and all organisms have psychic powers for survival already.
@Dana-kh5lj
@Dana-kh5lj 2 роки тому
The piercing sound makes this hard to listen to
@jamesearlcash1758
@jamesearlcash1758 2 роки тому
Interesting how Mr. Kelly resembles the late Budd Hopkins
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