Can you imagine the cost of the ice keeping the Champagne cold?

.The coronation of Ludwig II was in 1864. The crinoline dresses were absolutely stunning. The perfection of Luchino Visconti.

@@SuperChuckRaney maybe zero cost if it was in Munich in winter

that it is sorprise for me it is the insuferble protocol in the European royal events, where is the fun, the pasion.

@@mexicoxv2236 Passion was for plebs and artists, Victorian mentality and a thousand years of ceremony based on kings being almost sacred makes for hieratic, protocolary and outright byzantine court etiquette. And give thanks this is not a movie about Byzantine ceremony. Their Orthodox masses make Wagnerian opera seem as short and fun as 2000's Vines.

Il faudrait que la Culture de la Société américaine soit suffisante pour cela.

The reason American historical dramas pale besides those of the BBC and other countries is not only due to a paucity of talent but also because they omit the pivotal issues in the development of this country: slavery and the atrocities committed against the native population.

Yeah yeah, America bad. Come back after you've watched Age of Innocence, There Will Be Blood, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, actually just watch everything by Paul Thomas Anderson. Then you can start commenting about realism in period pieces.

In reality the British are good at recreating the past when set in England or Scotland. While the French with their natural elegance, excellent at recreating the past of their own country. American can create western scenes (the american west). But lack the capacity to recreate european scenes set in historical settings accurately.

Director Visconti was born in 1906 into an aristocratic Italian family, he was able to still give the scene an authentic look, while this whole aristocratic atmosphere is far away from most of us and modern Hollywood people.

That's the magic of Cinema. Recreate events and reality in a fancy, whimsical idealized version.

@@Luis-yx1xi I know they tried to portray Prince Charles investiture as Prince of Wales on TV at night in a candle- filled room and of course it didn't happen that way

So I would imagine from your comment that he wasn't actually crowned king? That they just placed the crown in front of him on a pillow and he took an oath on it? I think they did that in Spain with King Juan Carlos.

@@michaelharrison2165 The U.K. is the last European monarchy that has an actual coronation.

@@daniel_sc1024 Interesting!

It's not very clear what happened to him, he might have committed suicide as well, as his mental health was in a bad state

@@jonny2900 Also, he was a heavy-set man by then, and had eaten a heavy meal before going on his walk. He may have had a heart attack, after struggling with Dr. Gulden(sp?) and then plunging in the cold lake in an attempt to swim away. But, no body really knows what happened.

@@jonny2900 and he was stated mad by most German nobility because he emptied Bavaria's coffers to build these fabulous palaces and he was kept in an asylum, and completely heartbroken when he was taken back to that lake near neuschwantsein, and so that could have been the reason that with so much emotion taking him he drowned himself and the doctor who took him there

A great experience you got long time ago and you remember all . You understand this tragic monarch. Chapeau. 👍

ABSOLUMENT

The point is: visconti knew all that. But it was all the same to him.

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It was plotted by the Prussians, Ludwig 2. didn't want war

@@jaklm4221 pretty sure Bismarck was Ludwigs personal friend. How do you figure the Prussians were behind it?

@@AL73250 Because they wanted to form Germany? And Bavaria was pretty much the last obstacle after Alsace Lorraine and a pretty big one at that.

@@oc8636 What do you mean? Ludwig died 15 years after the Empire was founded, with Bavaria as part of it.

@@AL73250 Because he didnt fit with the Prussians anymore. Yeah Bavaria was 'part' of Germany but do you have any idea how decentralized it was in the beginning? The bigger Kingdoms in Germany even had their own armies up to 1914 and there was always a powerstruggle internally that the prussians wanted to win (Kulturkampf for example). There was 100% someone getting use out off declaring Ludwig insane (and him dying within the same year) and considering that Bavaria was the biggest 'problem' to prussian dominance in Germany it would be plausible for them to have it set up.

yes😅

Delon by far. And his looks still don't look old-fashioned.

@@spoffspoffington6576he was other worldly gorgeous

I wondered the same thing. Life is funny like that.

I think because of Civ 6. It has him as a leader, the Dream king.

Sucks that we don't.

@@corneliuscapitalinus845 Indeed!!

Some people have even more extravagant lives these days...

@@michaelharrison2165indeed

@@u3u36nothing is more extravagant then this lifetime

Yes, I saw a documentary in Spanish about it here on UKposts. It was so sad. Apparently Sophie was a very good hearted person 😢

bravo che ricostruzione lussuola e rigorosa

If I may, I recommend the BBC production series “A Fall of Eagles” ..it details the story of the final years of the Hapsburg,Hohenzollern and Romanov dynasties from 1848 to 1918…its a very good and in-depth look at the behind the scenes machinations of the Great Royal households and what led to their downfall….what makes this series intriguing is the relationships between the various royal families and the cousins George V,Wilhelm II,and NicholasII…it’s a fascinating story..

He was actually shy in public, and hated all the people watching him. That is why he retreated from public life. In time, even going to the theatre (which he loved) would be relegated to rehearsals and private performances with himself alone in the audience.

Yes, Berger has been drinking and other things since Viscontis death in 1976. He is still a fascinating Person, but you can see at him what alcohol can do to looks and brains.

Neither did the real Ludwig! The king grew quite fat, and he quickly lost his charming looks.

@@princevesperal Even when he died when he was still young

@@pa3997 Helmut Berger looks very simular to Alan Delon at least in this movie. There are other movies about Ludwig II in Germany. In this movies Ludwig is mostly portrayed by O. W. Fischer, also a very good actor.

he was caught shoplifting in a budget supermarket whilst living with his mother again after spending all his millions on booze, boys and drugs🤣

exactly Dave! I am hostile to monarchy my self. Atleast the current one as i consider it corrupted. I am an idealist and i hold monarchy very high. Like the father of the nation, the ultra shine example, the paradigm of perfection which embodies who we are as a community and where we come from. Indeed its not even the King, its the crown, that symbol that we look upon. Nevertheless we do miss etiquette and tradition in modern "West" and this is not by luck but subversion from within. U want to see something cool? ukposts.info/have/v-deo/eV17qohqnmyfyY0.html. All the titles of the world, all the achievements won't make the monks to permit the body of the dead disentent of the Hasbourgs to enter the monastery for burrial next to his anchestors's graves. Whom at the past they were on the thrones of many countries. The procession's leader has to ask permission to burry a "humble, sinful man". Its a centuries old tradition that the members of the family allthough they are not kings anymore, still honor. This is what they took from the West.

I just watched it, that is amazing! A very beautiful ceremony, and exactly what I was talking about... it reminds me a bit of the "blackrod caremony" in British parliament... which is another great European/royalist tradition that I hope continues... thank you for showing me that video!

proprio cosi. era il Suo Mondo

Toute l'oeuvre de Visconti est merveilleuse, à 82 ans je la regarde encore.

Ludwig, directed by Luchino Visconti in 1973.

@@Eerau Danke schön!

I guess the SSPX in Bavaria is the nearest thing now

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Just "Ludwig"

Man, I'd like to have that emptyness and hollowness

In contrast, the life of the middle class is full of deep meaning and spirituality.

@@countalma9800 If you refer to the life of the middling classes back in the 19th century, the answer is probably, yes!

Ah, the great Ideals and archetypes of the Bourgois merchant and consumer! Are we not blessed and enlightened?

Yep. Tragic movie...

En alemán es Bayern, Baviera es en español.

@@silviatito7914 The English translation of Bayern is Bavaria. Barbara is a woman’s name in English! Ludwig translates to Louis in both English and French, but the English speaking world calls him Ludwig, regardless!

Name translations are very difficult and confusing. That’s why nowadays most people avoid them and try to use the more commonly understood names.

그게그거야 호구야

certain people still have.

In Inghilterra esiste ancora direi

Why that, then ?

Sir, this is an excerpt from the film «Ludwig II of Bavaria» (1973) director Luchino Visconti.

@@user-sx6rp6tm8t Thank you kind stranger. Bavaria is my home, I'm looking forward to see a foreign production about the Kini.

@@jaklm4221 , іmmer gerne behilflich. Ah, Herr Jakl, Bayern ist einer meiner Lieblingsorte in Deutschland. Immer bewundert das kulturelle Erbe der großen deutschen Zivilisation. Ich komme aus der Ukraine, das ist neben Russland, obwohl wir in der Mentalität gleich sind: Russen, Ukrainer und Weißrussen (die Unterschiede sind unbedeutend). Und Sie können fragen, was für ein Kimi? Stört es dich, wenn ich Deutsch benutze? Ich denke, er ist für Sie, mein lieber Herr, mein Lieber, und dies wird Ihre Wahrnehmung von Informationen erleichtern.

@@user-sx6rp6tm8t Kini is Bavarian dialect for „König" meaning King We call King Ludwig 2. Kini

@@jaklm4221, now it is clear, спасибо (spasibo- thank you). I heard that you have many dialects in Germany that are very different from each other.

"LUDWIG" by Luchino Visconti (1973)

@@edwardderiseis3702 thank you very much

'Ludwig II' - the DVD is on Amazon etc but no English sub titles!

And having a higher rank as empress she never would bend a knee standing vis a vis a king !

That’s not Sissi. It’s his mother

​@@jaykauffman4775You're right.

Blue and white are also the bavarian colours. Long before Argentina was a thing.

Ludwig II of Bavaria» (1973) director Luchino Visconti.

@@keziahdelaney8174 ευχαριστώ

Ludwig II of Bavaria» (1973) director Luchino Visconti.

Why ?

@@user-jb7eo2zt9z because bavaria never had a coronation ceremony it only had a inauguration ceremony

The German Empire 2nd Reich started later, in 1871 after the first defeat of France. The subsidiary monarchies lasted until November 1918.

This king lived until 1886 with successors until 1918, look it up

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@@imhurogay 저두요 실제로도 더 닮은거 같은데 이상하네요

And over in Ireland, we are picking our noses and hoping for a good spud harvest.....

This is what the CSA would have been had they won that war, with the exception of the homosexual papists.