I HAVE A LIL SNOWMAN AS A PART OF MY ALPHABET. IT MAKES THE "chikachika" SOUND

LMAO HAHAHAHA I ACTUALLY SEARCHED THIS BEACUSE IM WRITING A DIARY TOO (im in 7th grade : ) HSHAHAHAH)

@rétro yas my fam has awoken

I was eleven, but yeah!

@rétro I’m in seventh grade and turn off the caps please

Okay this would work as long as you had like a maximum of 10 characters

This may be extremely confusing, but maybe to help create this kind of language you should allow yourself to flip the letter as well to effectively make more rotations (assuming the symbol is assymetrical)

@@kingslayer2239 and then the symbol is a circle

That would translate into a puzzle very well

@@kingslayer2239 Or possibly have the entire language be like a clock? With two arms on the clock, and a range from 1-12 on the clock, that's... i think 144 possible combinations? I could be wrong, but it's still a wide range!

Cantonese: ...

Did u ever print Chinese

Cantonese and Mandarin are spoken languages. Proper Chinese and simplified Chinese (Chinese degraded by officials {KMT and CCP}* who think its somehow easier for the illiterate to read) are writing systems, also used in Japanese, and dated in Korea and Vietnam. Spoken languages, like Cantonese, in particular Cantonese in Hong Kong, influenced by English, (and all of that not infrequently used in conjunction with English),** have words, in particular verbs, that are considered informal in writing, and only written for very, very, informal situations. Thus, the spoken language's words have their distinctly differently written and spoken (but never spoken as it would sound awkward) character counterparts used in the written Chinese script. Essentially, there's the Han script/Kenji, that could be in proper/traditional form or simplified form. Words in that script could be spoken. (Hong Kong Cantonese only: In real-life, these words are switched to other words which are then spoken. These spoken words can be written as is, rendering the text informal). These spoken words can be part of the Cantonese, Mandarin, and Japanese languages. *KMT: Nationalist Party, ruling party of the Republic of China, which ruled China proper, Mongolia, Tibet, Manchuria, and other surrounding regions in 1910s to 1940s CCP: Chinese Communist Party. People's Rep. of CN, currently ruling China proper, parts of Mongolia, Tibet, East Turkestan, and other surrounding regions. Controlling Hong Kong via proxies. **British Imperial territory 1840s - 1997; See: Hong Kong English

Oh really？ 人 入

Josh Sebastian Ang OH MY GOD, these characters are infuriating, I’m now rusty but one is “ren” meaning people and the other is fire?

Unlike created languages, natural languages took thousands of years evolving in total anarchy without ever applying any rule of global coherency other than immediate comfort. This is why mosquitos are masculine in modern French, but flies are feminine.

@@justsomeonepassingby3838 I'm new to all this stuff I'd love an expanded explanation on the fly mosquito example and to generally just know more

@@onyxrin1946 i'm not a language expert either, but what i mean is that natural languages are not bound to the grammar rules (the grammar rules are just observations made to describe a language). In French, non-human things are gendered, and there is no rule to describe it (there have been attempts to describe it, but there is no perfect rule on which thing should be male or female. There is even a one man show about good things being male and bad things being female). For french learners, this means they have to learn the gender of each and every noun for no reason other than "that's how it is". ===== (useless trivia) To give another example, in Japanese, kanji have 2 main pronunciations. But some kanji have dozens of pronunciations, and japanese learners try to memorize everything as if the pronunciation was important for the kanji (and japanese classes also tend to give each and every possible reading for each kanji). They also think the kanji writing is supposed to be a definition of the word. Historically, however, the kanji was taken from China, and were "patched" into the language to give kanji writings to japanese words. In most cases, the rules they followed are: -if the word has a single kanji (ex: cat, dog,...), just use the kanji and give it the japanese pronunciation (that's called the kun-yomi reading of a kanji) -if the word cannot be written by a single kanji (ex: modern nouns like airplane and airport), let's try to find chinese (from a japanese point of view) pronunciations that kind of match the word and have a similar meaning (the supposedly chinese pronunciation of a kanji is called the on-yomi reading). Because these words are made of multiple kanji, the kun-yomi is used in words with a single kanji, and the on-yomi is used in words with more kanji -if nothing works, let's take the simplest kanji in terms of meaning and just use the japanese word (ex: otona, meaning parent, is written as "big person"). In this case, there is clearly no reason to look for a link with the kun-yomi or on-yomi readings, but japanese books and courses consider "oto" and "na" valid pronunciations of the "big" and "person" kanji (which is technically true, but has no importance) When learning the pronunciations for simple kanji like "big", the japanese learners also try to learn unique pronunciations like "oto", because they think this pronunciation is a part of the kanji they are trying to learn. Which make no sense, because they would better learn the 2 main pronunciations (kun-yomi and on-yomi) and that the word for parent is different rather than learning each and every possible reading of a kanji across the language. Sometimes, the pronunciation just doesn't match the kanji because the kanji were not made for japanese. There have been attempts to replace kanji with an other writing system. This gave the hiragana/katakana, which are now mixed with kanji (because they failed to replace the kanji completely) That's why japanese people use 3 writing systems to write a sentence today. On the contrary, koreans succeded in making a writing system to completely replace kanji, which is why they don't use chinese characters anymore. ====== Constructed languages, when they don't try to sound like natural languages, can just skip the irregularities and incoherencies. They can also skip the redundancy of using plural on adjectives or declining nouns like some european languages. (In case you recognised a pattern with european languages, that's because latin has almost all of it) Esperanto, for instance, does not have both complex conjugation tables and irregular verbs. ==== more useless trivia Most european languages do, but English simplifies everything by only having an "s" for he/she/it. In French, for instance, the verb "aller" (to go) at the present gives: -je vais -tu vas -il va -nous allons -vous aller -ils vont In these 6 cases, 4 lines ("vais", "vas", "va", "vont") have nothing to do with "aller" ===== There, i don't have anything to say anymore. I might me wrong or skip details in some parts, but i except an even worse bias from those who will disagree, like "latin has no irregularity and is perfect", "japanese kanji is beautiful and perfect", "redundancy/conjugation/declination gives information",...

⁠thats why its impossible to pronounce a persons name in kanji

Username and profile picture check out :D

How elegant

Soooooo, shall we proceed?

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Does the video contain any cognitohazards before I watch it?

I mean, it is indeed elegant, because they are considerate when it comes with time, unlike the animals, they mate anytime they want lol

Haha. Sometimes real languages break al the rules of conlanging

LOL.

Dude that description sounds like English too lol

@@elibeth8399 To be fair, at least the English language uses a single alphabet, with only 26 letters and a few digraphs, and the fact that its written form can be thoroughly expressed in a single foreign script is actually a point in its favour. The problem is that English favours etymological preservation over phonological accuracy in its orthography. If its spellings were adjusted to reflect how its words are pronounced in a way that kept homophones distinguishable, English would be significantly less challenging to master.

As someone learning Japanese, I can't even begin to explain how accurate this is.

So you just made a font XD? That's adorable! Would like to have you as my kid haha.

@@uatcgfhdhu You would like to have them as a kid 🤨🤨🤨

@@omransaeed1988 Sus.

​@@omransaeed1988AW cmon don't be so dirty minded 💀☠

@@breafd you're right I'm sorry, I probably shouldn't have done that, it was uncalled for 😅

My thoughts exactly

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed.

THE WHEEL OF TIME TURNS, AND AGES COME AND PASS, MEMORY FADES TO LEGEND, LEGEND FADES TO MYTH, AND EVEN MYTH IS LONG FORGOTON WHEN THE AGE THAT GAVE IT BIRTH COMES AGAIN, IN ONE AGE, CALLED THE THIRD AGE BY SOME, AN AGE LONG FORGOTTON, AN AGE YET TO PASS, A WIND ROSE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF MIST, THE WIND WAS NOT THE BEGINNING, FOR THERE ARE NO BEGINNINGS, NOR ENDS TO THE TURNING OF THE WHEEL OF TIME, BUT IT WAS a BEGINNING. Off the top of the head, how did I do?

From were is that?

@@WildArtistsl the wheel of time, is a book

You win. That's it. You win.

Cute

*clap fucking clap*

recursion is better. fite me

kolobite yes make up a language untill your exposed to it so much that you forget how to speak English.

Hangul has entered the chat

@@pppppaaaaaccccchhh Thai writing system too

native americans: ._.

all the monks who invented alphabets: xd

Fantasy Authors are really poor if thats the case. Specifically those authors who are trying to invent a conlang without any team lmao. Im one of those Poor Fantasy Authors💀🔥

Ancient languages used it. It got phased out of use for a reason though, imagine learning to write in both directions.

Wait I thought I was the only one to get confused

As someone who knows both Arabic and English (they have different directions) this can lead to confusion at the start. I remember back in school I'd be reading an English book and flipping the wrong paper and then wonder why I'm back two pages. Now though, it's extremely easy. يمكنني ببساطة الانتقال بين اللغتين بدون مشاكل.

When I was learning to write (at about five years old) I wrote like that. Made perfect sense to me. Not so much to my parents... xD

it might be because of ink smearing

Imagine having to wait for the internet to buffer to know what character you're looking at.

XD

Imagine writing gifs

You mean humans are interesting.

This guy gets it ^

lol.

Is it like, you would shout *SHAALATERI!* when you stub your toe?

GĀH

Kyujomoahshd !

TENNO SKOOM

Ambiguity has its own charms.

Japanese be like: ツシ and ソン

@@johnclever8813 wHy

@@johnclever8813 カ／力 and ロ／口

Elvish: You forgot me!

The language of the merchants probably who have spices

@@littleconnormcd who would like to buy the spices?

I'm trying to create a new script for my native language Tamil by watching this video

I was thinking ‘you sal note boss’🤦‍♂️

@Jaeden Vaithianathan to the rest of the world hey china put itself back together again with good morals as their main philosophy

* Stands up * Slow claps I really like what you've done there. Super stuff.

+

while I'm still trying to figure out how to discern names lol.

Taneth You gave me an idea for my writing system; Use uppercase letters to determine which direction the writing is going, because mine alternates, left to right, then right to left.

@@emilyschatz7644 That's wacky and seems weird--but fun. Is there a cultural backstory to it or just for fun?

tunic

​@@Stdvwrshirt

That sounds cool XD especially the last one!

I’m interested :D

@@AshtonSnapp i regret to inform you that nothing ever came of this

wundrweapon Aw.

wundrweapon aww. Tell your friends to get back at it!

The rest are all fictional scripts as well

4:45 I believe he also used a picture with the dragon language as well.

Hebrew was also displayed

@@hirokatsuvictor8755 That is correct. That is Dovahzul from TES V: Skyrim

Omg, Hermann! Long time no see buddy!

They did. Saying how you should make it easy to replicate and fit the style of what you're writing on and such. I personally for a Korean style writing system with only 17 characters for the sake of making it easy to learn

tell me how you want it to look

@@official-obama oh crap. We making a language and alphabet boys? I'll make a discord and post the link here so anyone can join

Any names?

Nevermind. Dumb idea I suppose. I already have a language I speak fluently and an alphabet that I'm going to be revising anyways. I'll just rely on my Jehovah's Witness style advertising of it

Ferrell Manes *Kinslaying Intensifies*

Well... In the end its kind of all Feanors fault.

or Morgoths... or they were all assholes for starting the first kinsaying in Aquallonde

@@hase3008 yeah but he's the one who invented tengwar so

More like *_Piece-ful_*

He probably just used it to highlight the symbols

There doesn't have to be dyslexia in a world/language that's been built for dyslexic people and If it isn't mentioned then I suppose not,afterall… It'd be taken into the account.

He meant like how purple symbolises wealth and royalty because of how costly purple dye was made. Reason why he placed some blue with currency below it a few seconds later. Like how limited the color of purple was and how it carried meaning to it.

I would suppose that the only way to tackle that would be to create alternatives such as braile and asl for the blind and deaf that stick to a word by word representaion

Your race could not have colorblindness, or maybe there is a separate writing system (like brails) but they add little color marks

What language is it?

@@sonetagu1337 I bet it's the Wicca alphabet.😀😁😂

Minecraft enchanting table, eh? 🤣

me too, my friends think I'm Satanist...

Oof

Very very peacefull, why, just ask their Teleri neighbors in alqualonde

@@drFocak "sorry about the whole slaughtering your village and stealing your most beloved possessions and using them for an unholy crusade. We cool now?"

Hahaa

Oh, boy...what a train wreck.

How the hell do Russians read that? Please tell me some people print Cyrillic.

Artifexian I find that underlining ш and overlining т make Russian cursive much more easily legible.

@@ilikeceral3 Only doctors do this

@@sweetberries4611 😂

Χεβ ιυ χερδ οβ θε Χαι Ελβζ?;

Variation of coins on a chain around ones neck. Imagine if spies or a guild or old merchants started a whole language structure by having an array of different value coins tied to them that held secret messages such as a 1, 2,4 and 8 coin in a particular order having a meaning but a 2, 4, 8 and 1 having a different meaning.

Beads on a string with different colours, materials, shapes and sizes to create meaning. Something large and elaborate like a bead work tapestry could be the equivalent of a book. Apart from the colour it could also work for blind people. Colour is another, if every colour had it's own meaning whether that's phonetic or take it further to individual concepts. Then also use those colours to make shapes to create even more intricate concepts. That one's an idea from cuttlefish and their use of colour on their mantle for communication and camouflage. Touch stuff like braille used for blind people and haptics used for both blind and deaf people is another.

You mean rtfxn

Storm Mechmesteren I get what you mean but no, it says Artyfksyan

Man i Got a like

יותם ענבר hello, Google is doing weird things

I wish I knew how to read Arabic, then I would have noticed that.

Not quite, the ancient greeks used letters to represent numbers. Although the ancient greeks also apparently saw numbers in math as secondary to geometric construction.

That's actually quite a modern thing, if you go back, a lot of cultures didn't have specific glyphs for numbers. Take Ancient Greek for example, they didn't have specific numbers but instead each letter had a numeric value. That used to be quite a common system.

Individual glyphs for numbers? You'd have to come up with an infinite amount of glyphs. numbers ≠ digits

Infinite glyphs, one for every number. Challenge accepted. Coming up with an infinite amount of glyphs isn't that hard though. Take 781487 for example, in this hypothetical system the whole number with all digits can be thought of as a single unique symbol that represents the number. My point is that what you need is a system with simple rules for everyone to be able to construct the symbol for any number without learning all infinite symbols one by one.

In hebrew we have gematria, which is a way to represent numbers with letters, like roman numerals, only shitter. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria

nice!

Kannan Chandra, this the first time I seen anything referencing pop culture in Tamil!

I am so happy to see so many fans of The Wheel of Time

Only just joined the Wheel of Time fandom thanks to the show. When I saw Moiraine's name in this video I did a double take and then noticed the others haha

@@JainaSoloB312 You have probably heard that a billion times, but I really recommend to read the books (even though they can be quite boring and long in some passages) the only thing, the show and the books have in common are the names. The show is really only loosely inspired by the books and tells a complete different story.

I have no idea what this comment is about but it made me laugh.

LET ME TEL-

Jefferson Rose you should literally use "tails" in every letter and simplify the script so that the "tails" look fluid. For example, Im trying to make a cursive version of the Celtiberian script. With the letter "a", that is symbolized with a inverted triangle I do just maintained the triangle, but pushed a descending line and a curve to connect it to other letter. It looks like a closed "y".

That sounds REALLY cool to me!! I love it!!!!

Fuck cursive.

Here's something to play around with. In the handwriting, arches = half circles, lines and points stay the same, angles could stay the same or become X's or +'s, and ovals are circles. In cursive, lines=lines(but connected), points=small loops, circles=large loops, x's maybe just pick up your writing tool. Just a thought, it might not work.

ooo i had a similar idea , cool!

I translated it xD It reads, "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights they are endowed with reason and conscience and should act to wards one another in a spirit of brotherhood"

@@Trakeso Very cool!

Cool

Thats really cool!

Nice

What?

Does Ba'alzamon count as a person? :P

yes read the further books or spoil yourself on the wiki (sorry didnt realise this was a old video or wouldnt of commented)

It made me want to see Ogier script. :( I've found no representation of it so far.

I literally thought the exact same thing. You dont see wheel of time references often but when you do, you instantly like that person xD

Haha. Glad you enjoyed, Josh. Thanks for watching.

This TES nerd is slightly less satisfied because 'dragon' is dovahzul lol

_oblivion masterrace you dovahzul peasant_

Wheel of Time character names!! Loved it tbh

Also, its glyphs have a simple name. Vowels are named as same as their sound. (ㅏ[ah], ㅗ[Oh]) Consonants may have different sounds front and back of a syllable, so they have names that start and end with their sound. ( ㄴ [ni-eun], ㅅ[si-ot])

Finish is phonetic no?

​@@tanjalukic7008What are you even talking about

@@Dusticulous phonetic: representing each speech sound with a single symbol. Or in others words i am saying that finnish is also a language which is spoken exactly as it's written.

Ok

Why arabic?

Always remember to use the IPA to define your pronunciations

OMG THIS SOUNDS COOL

W h a t

yup.

Yes

Finally found a homestuck in the comments

@David Soto wdym? It's practically an ancient text in Internet years.

You can teach me

Huzzah!

Gift? That's not what Egyptian Thamus would say. Thoth showed him his wonderful invention of writing and here's what he had to say: _"this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality."_

+Artifexian Iterate iterating the iteration technique which includes iteration upon the fact that iterating iterate (as in the word iterate) will implant the iterating thought of iteration into the reader's now iterating mind.

Let me guess... NativLang fan.

Flaming Obsidian very yes

victoria adelaida Have a simple mark for each tence. Past tence has a mark, & so does future, while present can be implied. You can have verbs and nouns have different styles maybe. I was thinking blocky vs curvy. Blocky alphabet vs curvy alphabet!

What's this from? "Ancient" is pretty ungoogleable haha

@@satiric_ Stargate.... The language is called, Well...Ancient

@@duvaul4821 ah ok thanks.

bro how about the right one?

MatA57 Which is further complicated by the fact that different kanji were borrowed from different chinese languages (depending on what dynasty was in command of China) at different time periods. Some were even borrowed _multiple times_, adding new on-readings to the mix every time.

+MatA57 Watch NativLang's videos on Kanji, they're really interesting.

That "borrowed from different chinese languages" thing is why there was a rash of bad translation software having tourettes syndrome in the nineties and aughties. There was a word with 14 meanings and the first one was the word fuck. Cheap translation software defaulted to the first meaning for any word, so stuff like "fuck the cabbage softly" would be written on things as the english translation (the intended meaning was "crispy" I think).

Airmanon I would imagine it would be angular but there could be slight curves in it too

I figure it'd depend on the nature of the carving tools used to write your language. Angles would be easier to carve reliably, but curves would be possible if lines were carved rather than chiseled.

If you skate it on ice, it would be circular.

Normianese

VIVE LA FLAGGY FLAG!

+Samuel Melcher Did I play too much FTL recently, or did you?

Welcome Tim.

VIVE LE FLAGGY FLAG!

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

Exactly. :)

How is english or Spanish or whatever not an alphabet? And I know bits of hebrew, and it is only technically an abrade.

abjad stupid autocorrect.

@@completeepicness5070 late reply but "sh" is a single sound that uses two letters

Don’t forget the silent letters or how much “-ough” varies in pronunciation across the words it’s in

tell me more.

@@Eosinophyllis Other than that, haven't developed any other things, still working on words, adjusting some stuff and grammar, it's just something random I do when I have spare time from school

lol.

Lol.

Ⲱⲯϣ ϫ⳥ⲫϭⳉ

I'm glad that I'm not alone xd

You could use a ipa dictionary maker

Gnomicality WHATS THE APP NAME THO DROP ITTT

It's the Vulcan writing system from Star Trek.

Jordan Berndt ohh okay, thank you!

That was anti-climatic. I expected it to be some ancient extinct Chinese dialect... :(

maligning_my_toenails Vulcan

DulledMemory Yea I'm pretty sure all 6 of the languages on that slide are fictitious. I know the 3rd one for "evil" happens to be Daedric from the Elder Scrolls series

how did you learn Elvish, throught websites or books? and which elvish language, Sinarin, Quenya or Telerin?

Ok but how do they actually communicate these memes. They wouldnt fit on paper much. Theyd cost alot and how are they spoken. Just a few things to think about(assuming ur not joking but i bet ill get wooshed)

sounds interesting, can you make a prototype for it irl tho

Cool! How did you become a conlanger for hire perchance?

This guy gets it.

I didn't have the balls to type out his true name.

I don't get it. why is this ba'alzamon called something similar to devil in arabic?

+Arthur Newlly Ba'alzamon is the Dark One (basically the Devil) in the Wheel Of Time series, but his true name is Shai'tan, but like naming the Devil, people have a lot of nicknames for him, Ba'alzamon and the Dark One being two very popular ones.

+Edward Nutt yes, yes I did

+minimooster now I want to read the wheel of time. seems like it has lore