Crusades From the Byzantine Perspective - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY
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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of medieval era, as well as the history of Christianity and the Crusades, continues with a video on the Crusades from the Byzantine perspective, as we try to see how the historians and chroniclers of the Eastern Roman Empire reacted to the Crusades.
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@serenus1974 2 роки тому
In Greece we always learn the crusades from the Byzantine point of view so it's really interesting to see someone presenting it also in such a well made video
@ragael1024 2 роки тому
Well... an oversimplification would be "first was ok, 4th was a b****" 😅
@VicmundLim 2 роки тому
I wonder how do Greeks view the European, Turks, Persian and Arabs
@OsmanOsmanHan 2 роки тому
Greek history education is heavily distorted and propaganda based. The only thing they teach correctly are the Dates.
@misterpikes7600 2 роки тому
@@VicmundLim Persians are respected old foes , Turks are the tribes that took advantage of the weakened empire and Arabs well... we dont really care . Thats oversimplified and dont reflect the opinion on the people but on the events.
@ragael1024 2 роки тому
@@misterpikes7600 well yeah it is an oversimplified version. Cannot blame the turks for taking advantage lol. Bulgarians, serbs, venetians, genoans and half a dozen more tried the same. The turks just got lucky by being on the other side of the Bosphorus while the greeks had no more fleet to speak of 😅
@byzantinetales 2 роки тому
History IS always told from someone's point of view. I am so glad Byzantium is getting the attention it deserves lately!
@zamirroa 2 роки тому
Byzantine empire ? Anhh you mean Basileia Rhomaion " Roman Empire"
@user-sc5iv2rp2t 2 роки тому
@@zamirroa Have you ever read a single source from the prototype? Both Anna Komnena and Choniates use the term Byzantion for the state extensively. If someone is bored to search it in the Greek prototype I will be glad to quote below the exact passages for you.
@ilias8972 2 роки тому
@@zamirroa Βασιλεία Ρωμαίων (Basileia Rhomaion), Ρωμαίων Αρχή (Rhomaion Arché) or Κράτος Ρωμαίων (Kratos Rhomaion) were all names of Byzantine state but in order for better understanding we call it Byzantine Empire because that's how it is known worldwide. Someone who is unfamiliar with its history might misunderstand it.
@user-sc5iv2rp2t 2 роки тому
Alexiad 2.6.6, second book. "Βυζαντιω" describes the state. That is for starter. Alexiad has 15 books.
@ilias8972 2 роки тому
@@user-sc5iv2rp2t You misunderstand the term Byzantion. It is used for the city, not for the state. For example Constantine Porhyrogennitos uses it in "Περί Θεμάτων" when he describes the city. Literally, all the works of Byzantines describe the state as "Ρωμαίων Αρχή". You mentioned for example Anne Comnene. In her " Alexiad", book A,1, in literally the first verse she writes: "Ὁ βασιλεὺς Αλέξιος καὶ ἐμὸς πατὴρ καὶ πρὸ τοῦ τῶν σκήπτρων ἐπειλῆφθαι τῆς βασιλείας μέγα ὄφελος τῇ βασιλείᾳ Ρωμαίων γεγένηται... " We see that she writes: "βασιλείᾳ Ρωμαίων". Such names for the Byzantine Empire are full in all the works of Byzantines, from Prokopius to Anne Komnene.
@pseudomonas03 2 роки тому
There is an old Greek folk song from Thessaly, which was a lament for the Fall of Constantinople in 1453, created a few years afterwards, and it says at a certain point, "μέσα με δέρνει ο θάνατος, ν' οξω με δέρνει ο Τούρκος, κι από την δεξιά μου την πλευρά Φράγκος με πολεμάει"... i.e, "from inside i was hit by death (implying the decadent situation of the state), from outside i was hit by the Turks, and from my right flank, the Franks fight against me". This folk song it's amazing because it gives the idea of how the simple people were still fiercely against the Latins, almost 3 centuries after the Crusades, and it summons perfectly in few words the situtation and the history of the last 4 centuries of the Eastern Roman Empire, and the war on two fronts, against the Latins and the Turks.
@dudenamedhero 2 роки тому
Better the Turkish turban than the Papal tiara.
@pseudomonas03 2 роки тому
@@dudenamedhero And at the end the disaster came by both of them, but mainly from inside...
@acidboyssuper3446 2 роки тому
@@dudenamedhero better in our own
@ahmetcan7979 2 роки тому
@@dudenamedhero as I Turk I much prefer unity of anatolia
@BasileusRex 2 роки тому
Sad but elegant and beautiful
@msb8792 2 роки тому
It’s very fascinating that in many ways a heavy sense of Byzantine identity still exists until today; I’m not sure how prevalent it is in Greece, but I’m from the Levant, and a Byzantine identification is still very heavily present for many Christians from the Greek Orthodox Church (Byzantine Orthodox Church). If you come from a family that’s part of that community, so many elements of your world and Childhood are ingrained in Byzantine elements, including art, chant, music, terminology, and lots of other things …etc. Also adding to that fact, the local Arabic name for the community is still “Rūm Orthodox”, meaning “Orthodox Romans”.
@GeoBBB123 2 роки тому
Greeks today consider themselves very much to be the direct descendants of the Byzantine 'Romans'
@user-pq2ut6yz2v 2 роки тому
Hello my brother. The state and the greek oligarchs are focus on the classical period because they are little bitches of the west. And the modern west is all about the ancient Greeks, democracy etc. But In reality the average Greek (even an atheist) feels much closer to the Byzantine indentity which is normal. How Is the Rum community in Levant ?
@forgetful9845 2 роки тому
Where are you from?
@GeoBBB123 2 роки тому
@@forgetful9845 I'm a Greek living in Australia.
@guglielmovalentino8626 Рік тому
I'm from Salentos in far south Italy, here people speak a language called Griko that it is essentially a Greece dialect, similar to Koinè the main language during byzantine era, here we respect Constantinople's history, I suggest to all of you to come here in Otranto/Hydruntos and join 💪
@expandedhistory 2 роки тому
Fun fact: The word ‘Crusades’, wasn’t used when the wars first started. Sanctioned by the church, the Crusades were simply military expeditions. They got their current meaning in the late 18th century. The root of the word goes back to the 16th-century French word croisade, which essentially means ‘marked with the cross’.
@infinitysck8094 2 роки тому
Wow I actually never knew this, thank you! Also your channel isn’t to bad itself, great content. You earned a new sub!
@overlord5068 2 роки тому
Catholic here and proud of what happened
@kontrarevolucijonar7764 2 роки тому
Almost all historical expressions and names are terms
@sa25-svredemption98 2 роки тому
Exactly. Although religious belief was a key motivator for recruitment, they were fundamentally (and especially in the first and last Crusades) geopolitical conflicts with significant impacts on commerce and economics, strategic positioning, access to resources, etc. In reality, no different to many other wars fought without core religious or ideological motivations. For the first few Crusades, the term "police action" might very well have been applied by contemporaries, had such a term existed back then! The last few, obviously, were existential wars regarding the future existence of the Balkans and Europe (including the Siege of Vienna).
@pogo8050 2 роки тому
PepoG
@alexk7973 2 роки тому
I really like how throughout the video, the Eastern Romans are called Romans, as they would have called themselves, not Byzantines, what they were called by others later…
@alexk7973 2 роки тому
I also always enjoy seeing the maps with all the borders and nations of the day. I appreciate that you don‘t just annotate the immediate region you talk about in the video, but so much further out as well. It might not be pertinent to the content of this video, how borders were drawn at the time in the British Isles or the Iberian Peninsula, but I frequently pause the video, just to take a closer look and to remind myself of what was happening in other places at the time. Generally speaking, modern society likes to believe that globalization is a new phenomenon and matters were kept much more local or regional „way back when“, but really, the Crusades are a great example of how interconnected life and people were even „way back then“.
@alexk7973 2 роки тому
it does underline their worldview and personal convictions, though. To them, even though that Rome was no where near the territory they held, they were the Romans. The real Romans. Everyone else were Barbarians. The name „Byzantines“ doesn‘t have the same meaning.
@maxion5109 2 роки тому
really the term Byzantine refers to the *culture* of the eastern Romans as observed by western Renaissance scholars during the 16th-century and by that time it had long seized to be a political reality. The scholar who coined the term Byzantium was Hieronymus Wolf and for him it was supposed to highlight a Christian culture with roots in a pre-Christian past, not empire, even though it had been. It hints at an identity-shift in culture that according to some historians started around the time of Justinian, (6th-century), roughly around the time of the beginning ot the Early Medieval Period. I assume by this argument is that simply too much had changed in the East for them to justifiably be called Romans and Romans only, and that "Rome" is something that always will be synonymous with the Classical Civilization of the ancient world, i.e Ancient Rome, and doesn't belong to the Middle Ages. Political realities, successions and governments nothwithstanding. I don't claim to have an answer to these questions. They are raised by different historians and i'm sure there are differing views on this among them depending on who you ask/read.
@ampeerprime421 2 роки тому
If you no longer exist, people will call you and say about you whatever they like.
@oliet9947 2 роки тому
You might be interested to know that although the term Byzantine was created centuries before, it only became widely adopted in Academia during the Crimean War when it was feared in the West that the Russians would create a puppet state based on the Eastern Roman Empire (the war started by Russia invading the Ottoman Empire). Byzantium was a deliberately empty term deployed for political reasons to derive the Eastern Roman Empire of any unifying identity and so undermine any attempt by Russia to re-create it. I learned about this from one of Antony Kaldellis’s podcasts - the academic who wrote Romanland and has most promoted the Roman identity of the Eastern Roman Empire
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 роки тому
I always thought Conquering Constantinople by the Ottomans was a massive success. But now I understand it was already destroyed within. Thank you Kings and Generals Team for this amazing documentary.
@vulkunne1542 2 роки тому
Correct. Manzikert, ie... Sultanate of Rum was really the end of them. Sad though, didn't have to be that way but they could not manage their internal corruption and because of this the leadership that did care could not stand against the Turks. A better foreign policy and a little respect might have put a stop to the Turk invasions before they even started as they were more interested in conquering Syria/Egypt areas... at first.
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 роки тому
@@vulkunne1542 The Byzantium leadership that took notice of the Turkish threat was betrayed by their own and even after the Sultan spared the defeated Emporers life and realised him (which is unbelievable by the way for such an era) the Emporer returned home only to be captured and tortured. And yes, Turks never intended to establish themselves in Anatolia but almost invited to do so by disorder of the Empire. I think if it wasn't the Turks it would have certainly be the Bulgars or the Latins that took over. Ofcourse we will never know.
@vulkunne1542 2 роки тому
@@huseyincobanoglu531 Yeah that's true.
@alex3987654 2 роки тому
@@huseyincobanoglu531 Manzikert was a disaster because Byzantium lost eastern and part of central Anatolia. But what really destroyed the Empire was the fourth crusade, we see that after Mantzkert, with a competent emperor,, eastern empire found the strenghs to counter attack. But with the fall of Constantinople, it wasn't possible anymore, Venice took a huge place in the garden if Byzantines and it was too strong for the future Emperor. As usual with Byzantines, it's not the miliary defeat the disaster but the political mess just after.... Siege of Constantinople in 1453 is a real joke when you have in mind what was the city in 1204 or during the 12 century,.
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 роки тому
@@alex3987654 couldn't agree more
@serenus1974 2 роки тому
2:05 Well technically Liutprand first insulted the emperor. It is said that when he was brought in the imperial throne room he called the German emperor "the Emperor of the Romans" which was quite insulting considering the Byzantines were (or at least considered themselves to be) Romans
@user-ro9ms4hq5y 2 роки тому
Yeap, this was left out for some reason.
@paprskomet 2 роки тому
It was like that Liutprand refered his masters(Otho II and III)as "Roman" Emperors but in Constantinople they persistently ignored to also call them like that.They just called them "kings"(because they did not even agree with their title of Emperors not to mention Roman ones).Liutprand protested and tried to save situations by suggesting they say "king" but it is only lost in translation and they in reality mean "Emperor" but "Byzantines" said to him:"no you understand it correctly-we mean King not Emperor."In other words they refused western rulers to share the same highest title.Apart from this Liutprand insulted Nikephoros by giving him letter from the Pope where Pope adressed him as Greek Emperor of the Greeks.Liutprand claims that Nikephoros thought Pope did not had this from his own head,that he alone would not dared to call him like that and that he did so most likely because German emperor instigated him to do that to intentionally insult Nikephoros and to doubt his state was a Roman Empire.Eventually Liutprand had heated debate with Byzantine nobles strictly insisting on being actual Romans that he get enraged and eventually histerically capitulate claiming to talk to them in this style:..."oh,yeah so be those Romans if you are so mad about it,keep that identity of people who were once founded from whores and criminals since Romulus established Rome from such people according to legends of Romans themselves,we primitives of the west as you think about us might not have such illustrious descent as you but at least we are from decent and noble tribes unlike Romans".
@misterpikes7600 2 роки тому
@@paprskomet Thats very nice, do you know where you got that info from ?
@friedbanana69 2 роки тому
@@paprskomet dude u are describing it like you were there...
@tylerellis9097 2 роки тому
@@misterpikes7600 Look up His Wikipedia page, his entire firsthand account can be found there.
@jeremy1860 2 роки тому
The Byzantines had a lot of bad times in their history, and having the crusaders rampaging around their lands is definitely one of them 😟
@hasantorun5410 2 роки тому
Exactly they were than us(Turks). Moreover they are the reason fall of byzantine empire, they destroyed st.ramonos gate(edirnekapi in Turkish) that was point Ottomans attacked and conquered the city. Even if Turks have taken costantinople they did not destroyed any historical monument or church(except hypodrom), they just converted churchs to mosque.
@midgetporn9735 2 роки тому
@@hasantorun5410 which is sad. hope the greeks retains constantinople.
@hasantorun5410 2 роки тому
@@midgetporn9735 in their dreams maybe.
@vitorpereira9515 2 роки тому
The Crusades are an excuse found by the Romans to cover up their mistakes. The court intrigues, the generals' rebellion, and their innumerable civil wars wreaked more havoc than the Crusaders and Turks combined. They were destined to fall.
@dragonborn3283 2 роки тому
@@midgetporn9735 ha ha ha... let them try
@gelisgeo1309 2 роки тому
Pope John Paul II during his visit to Athens 2001 apologize and ask for mercy to Greek Patriarch for Crusaders in 1204 "we turned against the brothers in Christ." sayd. Pope Francis in Athens (2021) repeated this apology to the Greeks
@nikospapadopoulos1041 2 роки тому
You fail to mention at the beginning that the wrath and treatment (even short imprisonment) by the rough and soldier like Nicephoros Phokas of Liutprand of Cremona was instigated by the latter's addressing the Emperor(Basileus) as Emperor of the Greeks and not with his proper title as Emperor of the Romans.
@tylerellis9097 2 роки тому
To be fair, he was treated rough from the Start. But that’s also because he was a diplomat of the HRE who was at War with them and a turncoat from the Kingdom of Italy, Byzantium’s ally destroyed by Otto. And to be fair the HRE had the balls to send a diplomat making demands when the Byzantines were beating that Holy Roman Ass in a war they didn’t start.
@abcdef27669 2 роки тому
Crusades from western perspective: “Lerooooooy Jenkins!” Crusades from muslim perspective: “WTF is that?!” Crusades from Byzantine perspective: “(Chuckles) I’m in danger…”.
@Mohammadkwt 2 роки тому
On point 🤣
@vitorpereira9515 2 роки тому
@TELL LIE VISION television In fact, the reason for the destruction of the Templars was the wealth that the knights accumulated. The King of France needed money and the knights had money.
@vitorpereira9515 2 роки тому
@TELL LIE VISION television The charges were frauds created by the king to get the Templars' money. That reminded me of the proscription of 43 BC which The aim was to eliminate political enemies, and acquire their properties. What do you think?
@remilenoir1271 Рік тому
@@vitorpereira9515 It was more so about their political power than a need for money. Philippe le Bel saw the Templar organisation as a state in the state which threatened the centralised monarchical power; the fact that they were rich and the wealth that was to be gained in dissolving the order was only a happy consequence of that.
@vitorpereira9515 Рік тому
@@remilenoir1271 They were proscripted.
@koolaid255 2 роки тому
I had to pause it dead on the 2 minute mark to stop and tell you how visually stunning that map looks....I subscribed around the 800,000 members days and since then the quality of your videos has multiplied immeasurably....thank you and thank you again!!
@christianweibrecht6555 2 роки тому
The maps are the reason why I subscribed and watch the videos instead of just listening
@koolaid255 2 роки тому
@@christianweibrecht6555 Roger that....I'm with ya....but hell I still listen to it while I'm "historiographing" myself to sleep....that narrator could put a tweaked out crack monster to sleep with his smooth ass "furthermores"!!!! Keep it up KAG!!
@marcusmacris464 2 роки тому
Greco Roman world destroyed and plundered from all sides and from within, is truly a tragedy.
@majormarketing6552 Рік тому
Sounds like what happened to the Western Roman Empire as well. Stand united or fall divided
@kadaltokek3953 2 роки тому
2:05, that was Liutprand mistake, he insulted Basileus by addresing his Emperor as King of the Romans while everyone knows even England in that time, Basileus was the real King of the Romans
@stephenjenkins7971 2 роки тому
Except that Liutprand was horribly insulted and mistreated long before that; he was likely using such language BECAUSE of his mistreatment.
@lesROKnoobz 2 роки тому
@@stephenjenkins7971 he was a subhuman barbarian. He deserved the insults
@MrKILLINOOBZ Місяць тому
@@stephenjenkins7971 No - he went in like a propaganda machine and paid the price.
@stephenjenkins7971 Місяць тому
@@MrKILLINOOBZ Then I guess the Byzantines paid the price for their arrogance later. Congrats.
@fatrkuh8948 2 роки тому
This occupation caused Istanbul/Constantinapole to lose its Byzantine architecture. Many artifacts and structures from Byzantium were either looted, plundered or vandalized. Along with this occupation, many artifacts were smuggled to Europe. The quadrigo bronze horse statues in St. Marco's Basilica, the tetrahi statues, the bronze works of the walled obelisk in Sultanahmet Square are just a few of the known ones. The priceless wealth of Istanbul/Constantinapole was unfortunately extinguished by the crusaders. Only a few valuable items were preserved, but compared to what was lost, almost nothing was preserved. Imagine that many works from Istanbul now decorate buildings, structures, streets or palaces in Europe. And almost everyone who sees it says, "Oh, how beautifully made." says. But they do not know that they are the wealth of Istanbul/Constantinapole and Byzantium.
@majormarketing6552 Рік тому
Warlords with their selfish greed for power robbed everyone of massive wealth. Those riches were because one massive roman empire economy building for 1k years. Many wonders were built at the height in antiquity. But countless countries including yours is ran by morons who rather have sole power of a small state than see everyone united. They rather destroy shit than let things continue building. If constantinople never had plague or fallen (even as a small corrupt state), it would by far be the riches city in the world today
@fatrkuh8948 Рік тому
In this comment I wanted to emphasize the horror of the crusader raids in Istanbul/Constantinopole. You looked at it from a political point of view. Also, I don't understand why you want people to be united. People are made up of different races and tribes. Their religions, traditions and even food cultures are different. Therefore, they do not have a common goal and therefore it is only natural that they want to live by establishing small states. But when they occupy each other's land, they have to respect what the people of other cultures have built there and what is sacred. The plunder mentality, just like the crusaders, does not respect this and burns and even steals those holy ones. Unlike your opinion, I don't think countless rulers and states act with this looting mentality. If it were, the temple of Zeus in the ancient city of Aizanoi would have been destroyed long ago or you wouldn't be able to see the pyramids in Egypt and Sudan. Or you couldn't see the Ziggurats in Iraq and therefore you wouldn't know what great architects societies like the Sumerians and Babylonians were. I think it has to do with the intellectuality of these societies, and in the 10-12th centuries European societies were not intellectual enough and therefore thought ignorantly and cruelly. Or as an other example you can count the Mongols. Genghis Khan may have been a war genius, but he was too culturally ignorant and cruel. Ancient Mesopotamian cities such as Persepolis and Baghdad unfortunately suffered greatly from his cruelty, and the result is massive destruction and plunder.
@matthewboyle2641 2 роки тому
Alexios inviting the crusaders is like when you invite a friend over you haven't seen in years, then you realize how much they've changed and that you actually can't stand them.
@alex3987654 2 роки тому
And at the end this dear friend burn your house and r.. your wife !
@amienabled6665 2 роки тому
I'm no history expert but I have a weird feeling that the Byzantines had a negative view on the fourth crusade.
@obaidaserdar1780 2 роки тому
Of every crusade since the first .... they were supportive of it at the start but they witnessed many cases of looting which prompted them to despise the crusaders however political leaders didn't hate it untill things went south with Antioch
@tylerellis9097 2 роки тому
@@obaidaserdar1780 Yeah the First Crusade had the full support of the Byzantine army and navy with both in unison until Antioch. People forget Byzantine officials and Guides were with the Crusaders. Everything went to shit when that Deserter misled Alexios.
@obaidaserdar1780 2 роки тому
@@tylerellis9097 they had the support of the leadership not the peasants ...the peasants were very supportive at the start but as soon as the soldiers started abusing the land they are passing by the people of eastern empire detested them You have to understand that crusaders thought of eastern Christians as heretics and Latinised their churches or destroyed it and massacred many of them ... something caused many eastern Christians to fight to the side of Muslims
@tylerellis9097 2 роки тому
@@obaidaserdar1780 There is no recorded massacres of an Orthodox Town in the first Crusade, the crusader army was trailed by a Byzantine one when it went through Byzantine territory. One town was by Massacred by Bohemond when he went off course but it was a Paulican Town which the Catholics actually considered Heretics. Same with the 2nd no Orthodox towns were massacred. We also know Native townsmen tried to swindle the Crusaders. Byzantine sources tell Manuel In the 2nd told his governors to inflate grain prices when the Crusaders arrived in Bulgaria. Their pillaging wasn’t always unjustified. There was no widespread persecution and harassment Of Orthodoxs by Catholics until after the 4th Crusade. Orthodox Greek Churches in Italy were allowed to operate in Greek with no persecution from the Normans or Church until the 1200s. There was mistrust and cultural differences between the sides but it wasn’t due to their faiths yet. Hungary and Croatia also got pillaged by crossing Crusading Armies despite being Catholic. The Third Crusade was a mess on both sides and Serbian/Bulgarian interaction flaring things up alongside Byzantine countermoves didn’t help. And peasants aren’t the ones writing our sources. Educated Priests and Officals safe in Constantinople, Thessaloniki and other Urban walled Cities were.
@obaidaserdar1780 2 роки тому
@@tylerellis9097 the massacres I have mentioned was against the Levant Christians however records of peasants resentment exists in the Assyrian records of churches which is by the way does care about peasants not just rulers ...again yeah rulers weren't annoyed till fourth crusade but public opinion didn't support the crusades ....that opinion is eventually what led to the Byzantine power struggle to take place More over the prices inflation is normal when armies pass an area with out proper rationing which was the lesson crusaders learned the hard way ...and it wasn't in anyway a justification for the acts in Hungary
@V-man117 2 роки тому
As a Greek, this kind of topics break my heart 💔
@SwedishSinologyNerd 2 роки тому
Heck, I'm Swedish and I think the slow, torturous decline and fall of Byzantium is one of the saddest points in European history...
@Rissamlu 2 роки тому
@@SwedishSinologyNerd On the other hand, it lasted a thousand years. That is a kind of stability other nations dream of, even if there was slow decline.
@Rissamlu 2 роки тому
One day we'll all pray together in the Hagia Sophia
@lamborghiniurus2660 2 роки тому
You mean as eastrean roman *
@edim_35gs 2 роки тому
Greek proverb "You get used to the cold" Thank you Atatürk, he taught you how to swim.
@Based_ippokrates 2 роки тому
I am a huge fan of Greek history, as a Greek myself and have seen every single video of your channel about Greek history during my lunchtime. I appreciated every moment of them because they are so accurate and objective. For the byzantine part of history (I prefer to say the Romeiko part of history but is widely known as Byzantine) I have read numerous books with the most notable being the "history of the byzantine empire" of A. Vasiliev, and your videos depict the best what i have read in an animated way. Therefore I have to say a great thank you for your work, keep up with those great efforts and I hope someday a filmmaker company to make a film for this fascinating part of history which is literally non-existent.
@majormarketing6552 Рік тому
Byzantine a term given by Rome’s enemies out of jealousy. England, France, Spain, Italy, Libya, Egypt, Israel, Syria, Turkey, Bulgaria, and Albania (and more) all hate Eastern Rome for many reasons. Their elite know their power belongs to Rome not them. To make everyone forget, they call you Byzantine
@AstralisSirius Рік тому
So you Greeks truly feel Romans…mad respect from a Roman himself. Una faccia una razza 🇮🇹❤️🇬🇷
@Based_ippokrates Рік тому
@@AstralisSirius 🇮🇹❤️🇬🇷
@ionutpaun9828 9 місяців тому
Anthony Kaldellis has a new book on the Eastern Roman Empire coming up soon. Should be more up date than A. Vasiliev's books.
@sprc155 5 місяців тому
@@AstralisSirius IT---> Lombard (not Roman xD)
@MateusToussaint 2 роки тому
This is so sad... It is like a quote from Silmarillion "But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song"
@snicket87 2 роки тому
Bizantines are so relevant tô our western Society, but also so neglected in history teachings. Thank you for the vídeo! Great job!!
@majormarketing6552 Рік тому
Because everyone hated them. The holy roman empire exists to mock it. Guess who writes their history? Pretenders to roman territories. They have 0 interest in legitimizing Rome ever again. In fear, call them Byzantine. And Greek leaders dont want to give up power either, they rather keep their weak ancient greek culture instead of letting the ruler of spain hold roman power because he has its paper rights.
@bevenaflame 2 роки тому
I've been following KnG back since 2015. Am so proud to see how this channel has grown and continues growing!
@nikostoss1199 2 роки тому
I am Greek of Pontic descent and even today my grandmother keeps repeating the old greek saying «πάλι με χρόνια με καιρούς, πάλι δικά μας θα είναι», which essentially means “in time they will be ours again”, referring mainly to Constantinople and the lands of Anatolia. Gives me the damn chills. Thank you Kings and Generals for bringing Greek history to the spotlight, as it is often overlooked
@stephenjenkins7971 2 роки тому
Extremely unlikely. Such nationalism really shouldn't inform policy, or be encouraged. As we see in Russia; there are consequences of it.
@stephenjenkins7971 2 роки тому
@@shortcrypto7490 Yeah, Turks are not much better than Greeks in this regard. Irredentism is a curse.
@GeoBBB123 2 роки тому
@@shortcrypto7490 Athens was only yours from the perspective a foreign people conquering what was never theirs and had no connection to it whatsover. Constantinople, on the other hand, was OUR capital ... founded and populated by OUR people.
@nikostoss1199 2 роки тому
@@stephenjenkins7971 The comment was not meant to be nationalistic, of course something like that is extremely unlikely and in fact shouldn’t happen. Just wanted to point out a tradition that lives on today since 1453, and the continuity of the greco-roman identity
@Hioloi Рік тому
Cringe greek grandma. Chameria will be Albania again. Greeks have been losing 2000 years straight. Albanians are the reason you got your independence. Never forget that, jorgo.
@gtsep_the_mapper 2 роки тому
I love how this chanel actually does Byzantine history stuff
@hanzup4117 2 роки тому
Thank you, Kings and Generals for yet another answer to a question I never knew I wanted an answer to.
@charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181 2 роки тому
This is incredible! I would love to have an even more detailed account of the events regarding the Byzantine empire around this time and the crusades in general.
@bowenc24 2 роки тому
Pretty cool to see a different view of the Crusades, would love more of these types of videos!
@HistoryfortheAges 2 роки тому
You guys always make amazing content. Keep it up.
@Louis-ji3sn 2 роки тому
Thanks, absolutely can't wait for more Crusader stuff!
@0ak3nshi3ld88 2 роки тому
I've been wondering about this. Excellent "historical detective" work.
@BattleHistories 2 роки тому
Well done, another great video on another interesting piece of history!
@Primetiime32 2 роки тому
Thanks for the upload
@aarondemiri486 2 роки тому
historical perspective is so fascinating whatever book or video on history I read or watch I find myself rooting for someone or a side and then when I'm given the others sides story I root for them against those whom I originally supported. History is so marred in grey complexity I find it so enjoyable being shown both sides. Very rarely is one side overwhelming in the right.
@drakehashimoto685 2 роки тому
True, though to prevent any bias, I tend to perceive the sides through a, through much effort, objective perspective.Historical nuances and intricacies make history quite a treat if I may say.
@drakehashimoto685 2 роки тому
Eastern Roman history, among other histories, is always a treat for me, given that I've been studying roman history for years now and so watching these vids Kings and Generals, again, among others is always refreshing, especially when looking at those attractive maps ;)
@yesihsaid 2 роки тому
Nice to see, I learnt a lot with this one again 👍
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 2 роки тому
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
@jmvm31 2 роки тому
Love this channel! Best thing on youtube.
@grahamturner1290 2 роки тому
Fascinating stuff, thanks!
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 роки тому
Luitpuld was treated like that because they don’t recognise his empire as Rome or as Emperor of the Romans.
@michaelheater1969 Рік тому
As always this is another great video from you
@robbabcock_ 2 роки тому
Another amazing video from Kings & Generals! 😎⚔🙏
@-RONNIE 2 роки тому
Thanks for the information 👍🏻
@barnabaszu 9 місяців тому
fantastic work
@ChristopherThrawn-el3sz 2 місяці тому
As always Excellent 👍👌
@user-gk9mj5bo2e 6 місяців тому
The Palaiologian period gave significant and wonderful art despite the bad condition of the empire
@CSSPMSwithMuhammadAli 2 роки тому
Very informative videos
@ricocampos1331 2 роки тому
Great video! 👏👏👏
@mahinahmed4002 2 роки тому
Another wonderful video
@locknickmonster721 Рік тому
Love this content!
@primumhistoriae8458 Рік тому
Great Video!!!
@silasbishop3055 2 роки тому
Well Done!
@arturoliveira748 2 роки тому
Very good documentary 👍👍👍
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 2 роки тому
18:12 Władysław III had an enormous potential as a ruler, and could've potentially taken Byznatium under his protection... But of course he had to change the course of history by dying like the 20-year old idiot he was (says an 18 year old, none the wiser)
@LordVelari 2 роки тому
And would be so cool to see Hunyadi as the new king of Bulgaria. Ō all the missed opportunities…
@desssval 2 роки тому
Great series.
@georgiok.6407 2 роки тому
Ioannes Cinnamos' history (επιτομή ιστοριών) is an amazing work. From all the writers you have mentioned Cinnamos, in my oppinion, is better because he emphasizes to military issues instead of the court.
@EloiFL 2 роки тому
Gràcies!
@GnosticInformant 2 роки тому
This is seriously one of the greatest channels of all time
@dayanbalevski4446 2 роки тому
These videos are beutifully crafted... very high quality!
@Newidhan 2 роки тому
800 years and I'm still not over it. Why do I keep watching videos about 1204.
@majormarketing6552 Рік тому
Because Rome still is the envy of the world. Even if we recreated it, we can never replace the networking and economy built over a thousand years that Constantinople had. Even then, they were weaker than during Antiquity where it afforded so many wonders that people are still in awe of today because they were united. Now we are run by weak leaders and separated as English, French, Italians, Libyans, Egyptians, Israeli, Syrians, Turks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Ukrainian, Greek, and more. We used to Roman and better for it.
@HellenicWolf 2 роки тому
good one
@0Rurik Рік тому
Tarihi anlatimlari cok seviyorum. Basiralirinizin devamini diliyorum🫡
@dshock85 2 роки тому
I don't care what anyone says....its 2000 years of Roman history....Roman tragedy....
@hjc1402 5 місяців тому
8:43 “he had the difficult task of filling his fathers shoes and restoring balance to the empire” Ah yes my favorite line from Star Wars.
@24Nasorangmal Рік тому
Good video
@loupiscanis9449 2 роки тому
Thank you , K&G . 🐺
@jaylo9421 2 роки тому
Sounds like someone was pumping helium into your sound studio during this recording ;)
@brokenbridge6316 2 роки тому
I will always like and appreciate another point of view when it comes to history. And it seems to be that both the Byzantines and the Western Europeans were laboring under misconceptions and arrogance about the other in equal measure. Such things always lead to tragedy. And did. (Sack of Constantinople 4th Crusade).
@anonymos59 2 роки тому
This must be an example for reading history from all perspectives.Then you figure out what is happening. Whoever read Byzantine history, will realize the issues of this region.
@gilbertplays 2 роки тому
You should make a video about r/place showing the battles we took there.
@imd8875 2 роки тому
I see ERE on the map (not Byzantine Empire), I instantly hit like! Now, let’s watch) And yeah, thanks for the content, guys!
@satriayudha9953 2 роки тому
Perfect timing
@direwoulf1663 2 роки тому
Have you done an episode on Shaka Zulu? I always admired the story of a bastard born son hated from birth becoming a leader by his own right and uniting dozens of long warring tribes under his rule
@JOGA_Wills 2 роки тому
Yeah they have not really touched the race for Africa or whatever the hell they call it .. oh scramble
@MegaMayday16 Рік тому
I live in the city of Cologne in Germany. The city was founded by the Romans as Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensis. During medieval times it was part of the holy Roman empire and the language was German. Here is a church that has the tomp of a Greek aristocratic lady. Her name is theophanu. She was sent from Constantinople to marry the German Kaiser they appreciated her as daughter of the advances and civilized roman empire and they hoped that that will give Legitimation to their empire
@pouyamori3861 2 роки тому
napoleonic wars would be a good series if you were looking for another awsome series kings and generals
@Bits89 2 роки тому
Please make a video about operation barborosa
@muazzamshaikh2049 2 роки тому
I wonder if Constantinople would've been captured by the Turks had the relations between Byzantines and the West been good. As Will Durant said, no civilization is destroyed from outside until it has destroyed itself from inside.
@majormarketing6552 Рік тому
Not a chance
@dasdblian3459 2 роки тому
Noticed use some of the animations from other videos about constantinople before only like 2 or 3 but just thought id mention.
@AegeanGreywolf 2 роки тому
Battle of Myriokephalon please
@mowm88 Рік тому
John Komnenus deserves a standalone video guys.
@alex3987654 Рік тому
Totally agree, excellent Roman Emperor but was here between two more famous rulers.
@r.filipesilva3896 2 роки тому
Name of song from 2:00 Thank you
@lexbor3511 Рік тому
Can you make a video about Georgian "Golden Age" and time around it? From 7 century destruction of old Georgian Kingdoms - Iberia and Kolkhida (Lazika), later unification of Georgia by united Kingdoms of Abkhazia and Tao-Klarjeti, later reconquering Georgians lands by king David the Builderer, later "Goldern Age" of King Tamar, later Mongol period, later reunification of Georgia, Temur Leng period and later the split of Georgia into several principalities under Iran or Ottomans until the Russians came. The same can be done for a history of Armenia and Azerbaijan (Caucasus Albania, Shirvan...) (I know it will trigger hysterical arguments in comment section from everybody from that region but who cares)
@Tommykey07 2 роки тому
The defeat at Myriokephalon was actually not that bad. The following year the Byzantines annihilated a Seljuk army that had invaded Byzantine territory.
@ioannestheiberian3955 2 роки тому
True, but I think it did damage the Roman's offensive ability. Now they were for the most part on the defensive on the eastern frontier.
@tylerellis9097 2 роки тому
Yeah the Byzantines didn’t even lose any actual territory from it, people forget it was a Byzantine Offensive and that most of the army escaped. This vid is an unjustified slaughter of Manuel imo that isn’t supported at all by Modern Byzantine Historians. He has his flaws but when you analyze all his campaigns, most of them ended benefiting the Empire in some way. Not having a proper heir and the Komnenos system itself were the problems.
@ioannestheiberian3955 2 роки тому
@@tylerellis9097 Sort of how Basil II left the empire without an heir led to the crisis in the late 11th century. The empire is strong when there is a strong dynasty with a guaranteed succession, when there isn't the wheels come off. The Macedonian and Komnenoi dynasties prove that rule I think.
@tylerellis9097 2 роки тому
@@ioannestheiberian3955 Especially True for the Komnenoi and beyond because as Paul Stephenson sums in his book Byzantium’s Balkan Frontier, when you make the Throne and government based on the nobleness of your families blood, suddenly the entire extended family become valid candidates for the Throne. That’s why Andronikos took the Throne so easily where as during the Macedonian era he wouldn’t have even gotten close. But during the Empire before the Komnenoi I wouldn’t necessarily say so. Dynastic ties weren’t required for high government positions and Kaldellis would argue didn’t significantly help preserve your Throne either. The position was seen as Noble but not the Family. The Macedonian dynasty got subjected 3 times, by Romanos Lekapenos, Nikephoros Phocas and John Tzimeskes Kourkouas. 3 Emperors from different dynasties(2 out of the 3 considered Armenian) Yet all 3 are considered successful Emperors. They legitimized their rule by keeping the emperor as a junior puppet and establishing marriage ties while promoting their own families to the purple. Yet their families were never venerated as Noble by the People or nobility. They and the Macedonian Emperor could be deposed. Even Basil II dealt with 3 civil wars. His Nieces were secured by his long successful near 50 year Reign There was 50 years of non dynastic succession after Basil yet things only went to shit under Constantine Doukas. Constantine Monomachos, Romanos Agyos And Isaac Komnenos are all overall regarded as Competent Emperors yet ironically it was the Doukas dynasty who led the empire to its dire straights. The Golden age of Byzantium was overall a mix of dynastic and non dynastic Emperors
@ioannestheiberian3955 2 роки тому
From reading Kaldellis' book I got that both the non-dynastic emperors like Lekapenos, Phokas, and Tzimeskes got their legitimacy through being co-emperors with a Macedonian junior emperor. I think that this gave the Roman people a sense of assured continuation of a popular and successful dynasty and also giving competent and talented leaders the top position. Of course this is not by design but by an accident of history.
@ScapularSaves 2 роки тому
Could you expand on Constantine XI's battles before the Fall of Constantinople ?
@carlodius7035 2 роки тому
Does anyone know the background music starting at 6:30
@ofi1238 2 роки тому
15:58 would appreciated if you would have a link of a mentioned video.
@KingsandGenerals 2 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/rWeQma1-jaVnlp8.html
@skull2470 2 роки тому
Can you explain (romance of the three kingdoms) battle of hefei? no one has explained it even though it was a remarkable battle where 800 soldiers of wei beat back 100,000 soldiers of wu.
@aycemanm8151 Рік тому
I would like to see a video focusing on John II and Manuel I, the latter which I think you covered too harshly. He had many accomplishments during his reign and had the emperor had a strong succession it could have continued to be very successful. The treasury was not empty at the end of his reign as the Empire was collecting strong revenue more depleted would be correct. -Decisive victory against Hungary Battle of Sirmium which consolidated Byzantine control of the Western Balkans -The Egypt campaign failure is more on the crusader states than the Empire -Battle of Myriocephalum was not very significant defeat more a morale defeat Byzantines crushed that same Turkish army a year later at the Battle of Hyelion and Leimocheir, in 1179 a strong peace was confirmed -He handled the second crusade brilliantly. -Broke the Venice Monopoly.
@alex3987654 Рік тому
I would love to see this video too ! Manuel wasn't a bad emperor but in my opinion he distracted too much from the goal pursued carefully by his fater John (an amazing emperor from what i read), goal being : destroy piece by piece, strike by strike the seljuks realms. His rule wasn't bad, but he didn't prepare well the sucession with his young son on the throne, helped by his unpopular mother. He kept the power firmly but he needed a really strong heir to continue after his death. Myriocephalum is famous but indeed had 0 impact on Byzantine Power, it had more an impact on Manuel's health eventually. If Manuel had focused to totally destroy and reconquer Anatolia at the end of his rule, the Byzantines Empire would have been in a more comfortable situation to face the f.g th Crusade and its impacts.
@aycemanm8151 Рік тому
@@alex3987654 agreed completely in fact in the 1160's had campaigned in Anatolia instead of wasting his time in Italy he would have taken Konya much easier since the Turks were not at all united by that point. But yes John II was a great ruler, had Manuel followed what his father did the history of Anatolia would be different. He should have left Bela as Heir or at least protector but yes it all makes for fascinating discussion.
@Muradmb1986 2 роки тому
You are the best YT channel ever .. best of puck
@IBrainedMyDamage 2 роки тому
Rüm is also where Mvlana Rumi gets his name
@TheClownesque 2 роки тому
Naming conventions note for ~8:40: Przemyśl was, at the time, under Rus rule, so should be spelled Peremyshl, just as Halych is spelled correctly in Ukrainian romanisation and not as Halycz. Also, Danzig under Poland should surely be Gdańsk? Also, you're using the German spelling of Olomouc (Olmütz), but the Czech spelling of Brno (German: Brünn). I'm not sure if Silesia was de-facto independent from Bohemia at the time, but in either case, Silesia wouldn't have been German - there's a case for using German spelling consistently here since Bohemia and Silesia were both in the HRE, but you should be consistent!
@npalmi88 2 роки тому
A part of me hopes we have an equivalent to the bronze age collapse so we can go back to city-states. Would be so kino.
@beachboy0505 2 роки тому
Excellent video 📹 The Byzantines were clever, they always reinvented themselves
@psikogeek 2 роки тому
Religious tourists are among the most lucrative, but they must be kept from mischief, then and now.
@qwertyguy12345 2 роки тому
"The Catholic Constantine XI' - is this correct? Was under the impression he followed Orthodoxy but was willing to accept his churches subservience to the Latin rite.
@legioromanaxvii7644 2 роки тому
Keep up the good work, and please do not stop calling them what they called themselves: Romans!
@ElectroMusicLab 2 роки тому
Unbelievable congratulations 👍
@teodorbabic8007 2 роки тому
Great video and I can't wait for next one! I am also glad to see in the last section of the video that Serbia is shown as the original owner of modern - day Kosovo. This further supports the well-known fact that Serbs were far greater majority in that region during middle ages and it was them who erected thousands of churches and monasteries that are still present today (some are under UNESCO protection).
@istvansipos9940 2 роки тому
09:20 how do the borders of Rum make any sense? I mean, how can a country be landlocked all over the place with such a narrow ring around it, not making any successful push to any shore so near? And, to approach the question from another angle, how is that ring defendable? thank you
@MegaMayday16 Рік тому
Check out a map of turkeys topography. You might find the answer there are mountain
@danielcuevas5899 2 роки тому
2:07 wasn’t it nikephoros 1st not the 2nd that insulted the germanic king?
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