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Yeah, ~1% was the upper end of what I was expecting. I mean how many employees did he have? What about their investors? 15-20% would've likely had been the sum of Peter's own cut.

I thought that was the best part of the story lol

also who the hell gets so sick of gamedev they go sell beans in the middle east, I mean, what was his thought process there?

@@innacrisis6991 it’s long hard and tiresome. He also failed first time so prob assumed it was over

as someone who wasn’t alive in the 80s i can confirm everyone there was on cocaine

Not to mention Commondore being fine with it when Peter's company came clean, and the fact that the software was relatively succesful.

Like those people who beg for information on kickstarters even though it was clearly a scam and they aren’t getting their money back

@@mathewthecrow what does chrisitans have to do with any of this?

@@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw WHERES MY AIR UMBRELLA

@@jay-tbl I was thinking more Chronicles of Elyria

@@mcfat1039 the game is related around being god so I guess it fits somehow

At least it wasn't Spore...

why do you talk like its a good thhing that they were let down?

@@yourmother1522 sarcasm

@@Ddday14 yeah that makes lots of sense thanks

He is Todd Howard on steriods

"I beat the Curiosity cube and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"

@@poly_blanka it was about working with everyone that was fun

@@poly_blanka this joke feels so obscure yet so popular

@@belkYTwell the guy who won didnt even worked for it lol.

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Yeah but he didnt even get 1%

It was supposed to be life changing though

If they had actually made a good game, 1% of its revenue would've been huge for someone who did literally nothing except get lucky.

1% is still great, because let's say the game didnt flop and it gains just an income of 200k, you'd still have a nice 2k. But he didnt even get hecking money?

but he got: 0.00$

same

Ditto, I didn’t even know The Trail was made by 22 Cans until now, let alone involved in this whole situation.

Same

I played Curiosity a long time ago and totally forgot about it until this video and was surprised to see it lol I was also surprised to find out I played The Trail at some point

even i have played godus and trial, but i never knew abt this I was like wut? i didnt even see it tht it was made by 22cans

On the plus side, his lying has always been due to a genuine belief in his own and his team's ability to create what he promises, which for a long time he could to a large enough extent. It just didn't last, unfortunately, but I'd much rather be lied to by someone overconfident than someone lying with the intent of deception. In Molyneux' case it's simply not buying into his personal hype and hoping he'll provide what he believes he can provide. Which to be fair will probably never be the case again.

I'm kind of interesting how that happened as usually there would be some sort of contract involved making it more than just a lie, but fraud as well. It also means that Commodore didn't do any homework as to which company they were trying to contract to get the work done.

​@SmallSpoonBrigade It's probably a lie too, I mean the dude's a pathological lier

I can now see why Larry Bundy Jr and Slopes Game Room make fun of him all the time.

Oh yeah he's a well known jerk, super full of himself

a scumbag? they say to not judge book by its cover, but damn

@@ArinJager1 cover? There's thousand's of confirmed stories about him being a total douchebag, he's an open book at this point.

Yeah, really, damn your schedule, you just hauled this teenage boy out of his ordinary life to make him part of your game development lifecycle, the least you could do is sit down with him for an evening and chat.

meeting expectations doesn't matter as long as its good

@Safwaan peter not brian, there's even a joke about everyone in 22cans being named peter are you kidding me

@Safwaan (i feel like something flew over my head but i dont quite understand)

That can happen once, maybe twice, but after that you know what you're doing and you know you're selling impossible dreams. I really enjoyed the Fable games, but didn't follow gaming news back then. I only later found out everything he promised and didn't deliver. They were amazing games, but I'd feel cheated too if I knew the stuff he was spouting pre release.

@@TheRealAbraxas Are the two not related? Lol

they did mention how vaguely the contract was worded. i have no experience with uk law but that might not have been a winnable case

@@felixader You're thinking of profit lol

"life changing" is a nonsensical term that won't hold up in court very well, the 1% he should have been paid though but it also depends on the wording of the contract.

@@volundrfrey896 They probably made a loss on the game :/

@@ravivandersalm4586 That's what I'm saying, loss or not doesn't matter if it's a cut of the revenue he was entitled to. That's why the wording is so important.

For every Choice a Consequence

Also Populous and Black & White which basically gave birth to every RTS, City Sim, God Game, and MOBA. I'm torn on whether Molyneux is the smartest con artist that ever lived or a god of consumer software.

​@@Paratet That's really overstating it. Now, Peter Molyneux should have credit for defining the "God Game" genre, which is impressive enough, but Citybuilders and RTS games existed before and were popularized by other games that either predated his games or were in development at the same time. The grand-daddy of city builders was called Utopia, but without question the genre-defining game there was SimCity which came out before anything by Bullfrog. RTSs were also in development from the early 80s and Populous was directly influenced by an earlier Sega game called Herzog Zwei. Herzog Zwei also served as the main influence for the _actual_ genre-defining early RTS that shaped the genre; Dune 2 by Westwood Studios (who went on to make the command and conquer series. That's the RTS tradition that MOBAs later grew out off. God games are their own little fusion of RTS and city builder and I love them to bits, but they're kind of their own little branch grown out of pre-existing genres. At most they represent an intriguing "what if" scenario since the genre never really took off beyond the original Bullfrog games.

It's hard to believe. Like a...like a fable!

@@lewisirwin5363 and the smallest consequence can roll into a bigger one as simply as the wind blows a leaf.

Time is actually an issue here - something the video didn't mention, he would only be the "god of gods" for one year, after that one of the Godus players would be chosen God of Gods, getting the same powers and 1%. So it all depends on how well the game did in its first year...of course, since they never officially considered the game "released", nobody got a dime...

i mean he didnt get any money they did make some so i doubt they woudlve given him shit

@@Dreamwriter4242 no he would still have his 1% the God of gods role doesn't mean you get 1% of the revenue when you beat him

With something like this and a somewhat bigger gaming company I wouldn't even have expected 1%. I was fully expecting him to get like 0.1% or even 0.01%, so 1% feels like a pretty nice deal. Just think of it like this, for every $100 they make, you get $1 of that. If they even only make $100,000 off of this game you're getting $1000. Of course I'm assuming the contract mentions that he gets 1% of what is left after all expenses, taxes, etc. so they can probably claim that they barely broke even after all that and not pay him anything. I feel like this guy needs to get himself a lawyer if he has a copy of the contract and it isn't too late already.

if a game made 1m that would be 10k. pretty good since you did basically nothing

Agreed. It's always suspect whenever a studio head is happy to take most of the credit for a franchise doing well (Fable).

remember milo? that was him as well lol

He seems less heartless and more delusional and brainless to me.

@@wrathofkaneeighty8 One of the most blatant lies to ever "grace" viewers of the "next gen" capabilities

Peter is an...interesting character because the business side of things actually bores him quite a lot. Hence why he never really sticks around long when put in a position that puts him away from developing. But at the same time, he's more interested in concepts and integrating new ideas than the actual groundwork of making them. He's a fascinating man to read about.

I loved the gravity mechanic

I played it on my nook 😭not much reading was done on that thing

@@classicpinball9873 omg same I played all my games on a nook lol.

It reminded me of Mario Galaxy, so I played the heck outta it as a kid!

Too bad is unavailable :(

I'm a windows XP

This was the same for me! As a child I played it every day.. imagining. One day I wanted to win. But when it disappeared I didn't know what the name was, years later researching "the box" or "what's inside the box" and nothing.. never finding anything. A year ago I found some videos and it drove me into joy!! I'm so happy to know what I loved was real.

i can't find the game :(

I was also thinking of this game just recently lol. I remember having it back in 2012ish hahaha

@@nicoelevadoados it has been deleted off the app store.

Yes yes and YES

He is literally doing crypto scams now. He definitely doesnt know anything and lies about everything

Not necessarily ADHD lol.

As an ADHDer, I find this comment kinda interesting

@@jakkurinjactenderjakala4129 ADHDer isn't a term.

@@logicproblems3654 As a ADHDer I disagree lol

@@jeremyjimenez7858 That term pisses me off for some reason. This is some "gif is jif" type shit

Respect. He was chasing that bag.

@@vrrooooommmm123 Sigma beanset

@@autumnrain7626 A real human bean

He probably should've stayed in the bean industry.

As a middle eastern (saudi), that was his peak fr

I just finished Zoe Bee’s video on the dark subtext of Willy Wonka, and I didn’t expect to be able to draw so many similarities between what she discussed and what happened here.

Except that in the end, Wonka said, "You get NOTHING! Good DAY sir!" And he actually meant it.

if they came through with it, its actually a pretty damn fine prize, but they didnt get any cash lol

if Godus was succesful it wouldn't have been that shit, but since noone cared it was less than worthless

Depends on the game. Slay the spire is fun, but really it's a mobile port of a steam game, so...

@@TheRavenofSin there's lots of good mobile games. unfortunately phones just make for an easy platform to target when you don't care about anything but economic gain, similarly to how Unity is used to pump out terrible games but can be used skillfully to produce something of high quality.

That 1% makes sense tho. He's not a developer, just the random lucky guy that hit the last cube box

Main character syndrome

Yeah this stuff happens all the time, I absolutely guarantee he didn't even know what the "prize" was going to be until someone won and they realized they needed to come up with something

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Peter is every dad who wanted to see that look of excitement on his kid's face, so he promised he'd buy him that new bike for Christmas and teach him how to ride it at that baseball field next door... and then he'd already gotten that happy look of excitement and couldn't be arsed to get the kid any presents at all.

@@ArchibaldClumpy I'm ngl dude this is very specific not sure this is a stereotype I'm familiar with

same thats how i started playing the game but as a kid and even now i wasnt huge on mobile games but it seemed cool

I thought I was the only one who did this lmao, kinda had forgot about the game.

I’m sure you did 🤦‍♂️

@@muffinconsumer4431they did, I saw it happen 🙂

This didn't hold up lol

aw, I genuinely loved it, beat the entire game without spending a cent. I think I'm too patient to be a gamer

@@reidleblanc3140 good for you! I'm glad you enjoyed it even if I could not

@@reidleblanc3140 hope you had fun!

@@reidleblanc3140 really loved the game it was sort of special memory with my brother, cute sound effects and Lovely graphics

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*it instead of I, I think

*instead of “i might”, it might

What was this bootleg?

@@EpicTyphlosionTV Interest, probably.

welp that was stupidly funny. A bootleg of a stupid game. Reminds me of shitty minecraft bootleg that gets your annoying cousin excited or cheap angry bird ripoff

I liked Detroit Become Human and Heavy Rain though

@@antonshotpoteita At least Detroit got us the Connor and Hank buddy cop movie

@@chucklebutt4470 the game is thankfully great (i also really enjoyed beyond: two souls) but the dev is an absolute prick

That not true whatsoever!! Dungeon keeper and the theme park series are critally beloved classics, populous is a incredibly important gaming milestone, andb back and white and fable are increbly beloved and well remembered, and peter Molyneux was the lead designer on all of them.

And whoever it was that made Spec Ops: The Line. Seriously, he released a book detailing the story of that game's development and it basically just SCREAMS "I'm smarter than the neckbeard nerds that play video games". Not sure what anyone expected from the dude that basically agreed with the suburban moms that think DOOM makes school shooters...

1% is HUGE

I mean, I’d say it depends on the wage where he lives. For me, that’s a little over 4 months of work. That’s 1 out of 2 years of tuition paid. Still, “life changing” is too big of a word to assign to that.

@@user-sf9gs2pg1b Free money is free money, my dude

And yet he didn't receive a penny

@lahaan Then it's a terrible prize

yeah i started following 22 cans waiting for an update but It did not happen . Too bad

I used to play it when I was younger, and my standard of games was pretty low, but even I got bored with it eventually. It’s such a cool idea too, it’s a bit of a shame.

The exact same thing happened to me

I started playing the game but grew bored of it multiple times, it’s a great concept with cool graphics, but there isn’t enough to keep you going

I revisited it a few months ago and it was fun (I even hacked it lol)

Ehhh… that’s ALOT of strep competition.

Man gaming journos were so.ething else back them My favorite interview of the past is jim stearling starying an interview with mysterio himself randy pitchford and the first question was "are you fucking insane?"

lol

Found peter's account

Yea, I don't know why anyone would expect a contest winner to get upwards of 10% of the revenue of a game he did nothing to help develop. I was honestly expecting maybe 0.1%. It would've genuinely been a life changing prize if it wasn't just a lie lol.

Yes, thank you! A percentage of revenue to begin with is almost groundbreaking in the realm of giveaways, and 1% is more than fair. Although, as you mentioned, it was all a lie and the game itself had no legs, so still shit. But yeah the guy in the video implying that 20% would be a fair prize... yikes.

Peter has a pretty significant ego so it wouldn't surprise me if he genuinely thought getting to meet him was a life changing experience.

Even a few thousand dollars can be life-changing to someone who isn't rich. Getting a around ~50K can be enough to cover student loans or even a downpayment.

Yes but it was said to be "life changing" not just "pretty fantastic". Tens of thousands is good but not really a life changing prize, especially with how expensive everything is now.

Also the Trail was super cute but jdmsjdlsbfnsnfbk

godus got an update recently, made it so the astari cant convert when ur offline

It had a wonderful potential

the trail was a very unique game too, really cool world and interestinng gameplay mechanics but its dead now.

I used to love the PC version but then they turned it into mobile port and downgraded a lot of stuff (which why reviews dropped drastically, people didn't like that mobile game elements were introduced into their paid game)

Wonder how things would be different without Fable being a thing.

It was the butterfly effects of all butterfly effects

shit i didn't even realize it was a butterfly effect 'til this comment

Its a little embellished, molyneux was in the 90s indie dev scene and had moderate success so its possible he could have been hired at a studio like many devs did back then

@@nicholaspeters9919 I'd gladly sacrifice two pretty good games and a mediocre one to have him not in the game industry.

Not just that they would grow, having them grow is relatively easy even back then. You leave the map the plant is in and it ticks to the next growth stage. Harvest Moon was out before Fable 1. Mr knew promised the plants would grow in real time, that you could sit there and watch it grow. Something that even now is difficult to do and is solely done in games dedicated solely to that like a terrarium game and even then it's still not great

@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 It doesn't sound that difficult, you'd need a random seed generated, which predictably dictates how each tick behaves, and procedurally generating a tree model for that. It's not simple but definitely doable. Perhaps not at the time... By the way, I agree @Hanako is best girl

@@minpegy I vaguely recall Peter saying in an interview that the team had coded the tree growth into the game, but it ended up using a huge percentage of the total computing power available so they scrapped it entirely.

Yeah, as one of the early players, gotta say it really felt like that :)

Meh, I think having someone who did not care at all, would have been better than someone who spent countless hours (and dollars) on the game being extremely disappointed at the prize.

Man get a life

then use cookie clicker.. you are clearly the audience and what is wrong with the mobile gaming market and how it seeped into PC gaming. Enjoy, peon.

Same I remember playing this every day on my dads iPad as a 9 year old

It was extremely satisfying for no reason. Just more proof that the children yearn for the mines.

You just need to give the money inside a lootbox and its not gambling anymore.

I mean what you are describing is, quite literally, a lottery. You put in money with the prospect of getting more money back by chance.

@@mikamoschella3410 But it’s shaped like a CUBE!

I'd say he knows how to keep afloat and that's it.

@@Andy-hp4tf most people can’t do anything. This guy had a go at all sorts of things. For that alone I give him credit

@@Andy-hp4tf Omg no don’t take everything so literally 😭 It was a dumb UKposts comment written in 5 seconds I just admire his tenacity. Many people often learn one skill or skills within their career and they don’t venture out and try they hand at so many various things like this guy did

@@silvesta5027 agreed, it would take some balls to say fuck it, accept the computers and have a go trying to write some networking software.

@silvesta5027 what did Andy say ?

ikr

The Brits know a thing or two about making a fool out of people, and getting money for nothing. When I hear a posh London accent, I hold tight to my wallet.

I totally agree. bad cring channels like lanky box have millions of subscribers

500k subs is not underrated...

And that edits, man

What do you mean underated? He has over half a million subs and most of his videos have over a million views. How is that underrated?

He's awsome

you probably ate some beans while watching that part of the video

You couldn't even change the cursor hand in "Black and White" to be left-handed. What god can't be ambidextrous? I also tried to find a mod for the game to do it but I never found one and then the game just drifted off my radar... never to be played again.

​@@xenxander That's what broke your immersion? Not the entire rest of the game?

​@xenxander no God will ever be left handed, you Devil!

Agreed

@@EpicTyphlosionTV same here, I never played it but it seems fun

I remember I was addicted to playing this... I want another one

@@TheKingsman11 I want one mainly because I missed out lol

Makes a lame promise, then fails to keep it. Yep, that's his MO basically.

I only give shit in like hyper realistic games and survivals about that stuff, because Hyper Realistic games are trying to sell themselves as being super realistic so I expect trees to function as actual trees do, at least physics wise. And Survival games are about feng shui most of the time, or they're also trying to be super realistic, for which point 1 applies. In any case, nobody would care about trees in a fucking 2000s RPG.

The Lorax wants to know your position

@@stankobarabata2406 That and in survival/sandbox games they're part of the core gameplay. If you need lumber for your core gameplay loop of gathering and building, you want the game mechanics to be balanced around that. In a RPG where chopping a tree only gives you some extra cash or material but your main gameplay is beating up baddies, why should one care?

Every grandiose vision eventually bows to reality (budget, deadlines, technological hurdles etc.) ... that's just how it is.

Do care, did ask + i love you.

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