The David story tells the truth about giving into lust. It's brilliant and actually shows how it can wreck your life.

This is a commonly known story among actual Christians it’s to show how even the most mightiest men can fall to sin when they don’t follow God

She proceeds to tell people, "That's a story not a lot people hear," after telling King David's most infamous story.

If she read the whole thing when she was 8, she probably understood less than 10% of it. Let's all just be honest.

That first story she mentions isn't a secret. There's an actual Veggie Tales episode about that episode.

Actually, most churches do not shy away from those stories, at all, especially the story of David and Uriah. That's why religious folk will name their kids Uriah, and they become MMA fighters.

The Bible records things it does not condone.

The fact that the imperfections of the people of God are on full display throughout the Bible is one of the most compelling things about it. Clearly not hiding anything.

some big discrepancies in the telling of the story of Tamar. After Judah lost his second son. His last son wasn't given to Tamar for two reasons, one, he was too young and the second is because Judah was afraid he might loose his last son. So he didn't promise Tamar that she will be the wife of his last son for these two reasons and not the one reason mentioned in the video. Tamar went back to her home as instructed by Judah, again that is all that Judah does, he instructs her to go and wait at her fathers house. Tamar while at her fathers home wore cloths that is synonyms for someone who is a widow and grieving. She finds out that Judah is coming to where her fathers home is because he wants to sheer his sheep, upon hearing this Tamar has a plan. She knows that she isn't pledged to Judah's last son and she wants to take it upon herself to get pregnant. So she takes for cloths that are meant for grieving and switches them for cloths that is synonyms for a prostitute at that time. Main point here is that she is wearing a head veil and as such no one can see her face. Judah walks into this town/village and sees this prostitute who is wearing a veil and he asks to sleep with her. This is where the video goes off the rails. She asks Judah what she will get in return for sleeping with him and she knows that this is her father in law and he doesn't know who she is. He says he will give her one of his sheep in his village/camp. Judah isn't at his camp/village, so this is supposed to be a promise for future payment. She asks him for a guarantee for this payment. He asks what she wants and she says she wants a seal with his cord and his staff. He agrees and he sleeps with her. Judah didn't sleep with her and not have payment, they discussed how Judah will pay her and she played him in this part of the story. Tamar isn't this poor innocent person and neither is Judah. So she goes back to her fathers home and switches into her cloths meant for grieving. Judah returns to his camp and sends a friend to pay her but he cannot find her and he returns to Judah and tells him that she cannot be found. He is embarrassed that she has his seal and staff. But he makes peace with the idea that she has stolen it. We all now know that this was Tamar's plan, she didn't want a sheep, she was playing Judah and got proof of the person she slept with. The video made it sound like Tamar became a prostitute because she wanted to make a living. This isn't true, she wanted to get pregnant from sleeping with her father-in-law. Plain and simple. She got pregnant and Judah is told that Tamar is found to be pregnant and the assertion is that she prostituted herself. Judah wants her killed but before she is killed she sends him his staff and seal. Tamar honey potted Judah and got what she felt she deserved. Moral of the story. Men need to keep it in their pants coz women who are just selling sex cannot be trusted. The other moral of the story is do what is right, Judah in his fear doesn't give assurances to Tamar that she will be married off, so when he didn't do that the rest of the story played out as it did. Judah is also the same guy who earlier discouraged his brothers from killing Joseph but instead mentioned to have him sold. Joseph lived and as per what is said in the bible he became the second highest in Egypt and also saved Egypt and his family from starvation. So Judah is seen as someone who loved his family when the rest of them were okay with killing one of them. He isn't perfect but neither is Tamar and all of them played their role.

You got to love when people try to explain the Bible without knowing anything about the history or context and stories okay

I wonder what would happen if Joe and his friends tried to deconstruct quran or bagawad gita? Just wondering.

Why would the Old Testament authors include such embarrassing details with no “happy endings” in each book? It describes the constant failures and sin from Israel’s leaders, to prove the point that no man can conquer sin, we all need a savior. The Bible states this from the very beginning with Adam’s fall followed by God foreshadowing the need for a new Adam (Jesus) as God promised in Genesis 3 someone from Eve’s offspring would conquer the serpent and redeem mankind. All of it points to Christ.

They are talking about these stories from the Bible like they are trying to make fun of or make the Bible look bad. God hates sin. These stories are in the Bible because they really happened and the Lord is trying to teach us lessons from other peoples mistakes. Just because it’s in the Bible doesn’t mean that God condones this bad behavior. They are historical facts that teach.

“ I read the Bible when I was 8 years old, cover to cover, you’re not gonna believe how much it gets wrong."

Always love hearing "women most affected" thrown into any random story like this.

If these stories were from random scrolls found in Egypt, Joe would be marveling at how Humans were just as crazy back then as we are today.. but since they came from the Bible, he acts like we have to be careful when reading them 😂

The thumbnail using a page from Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Lol

lol. If you’ve had 3 seconds of Bible study you know the story of David and the bastard child. She think really highly of herself

One of the most frightening stories is the story of Job. The Devil has a meeting with God, and God declares Job without fault, and sinless, the devil says “let me take his health away, his family, and all his belongings, and he will curse you then” This story is a sorta microcosm of my life story I lost everyone I truly loved : my wife to another man, my father (he was my best friend) to murder My 2 best friends, and the love of life, fiancé, to suicide. Job ends up suffering beyond belief physically also (soars head to foot, insomnia) Job ends up in the end getting a lesson from God, which is very interesting to read, and having an even larger family and an even happier and extended life, that has not happened to me yet and it probably won’t

If you go to Sunday school you hear all the stories of David…..come on now😂🤣😂

In the old testament it was Judah the son Jacob and the son begins the line of King David. Another element of this line is Lot who had Moab through incest with his daughter. Ruth is a direct descendant and King David is a direct descendant of Ruth.

I’m sorry this woman was brought up around a bunch of people that couldn’t help her understand the stories of the Bible. I’m 50 and have just recently became a Christian. I’ve heard of both of these stories because I’ve actually read the Bible. I enjoy hearing different people have different perspectives on the same story. It’s what makes us interesting as humans.

Michelle starts by saying these stories have historical context. Proceeds to not include any of the cultural or historical context for the stories. JOE PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE ON TH E SHOW WHO ACTUALLY CAN PROVIDE CONTEXT AND UNDERSTANDS THESE EVENTS/STORIES TOLD IN THE SCRIPTURES

You can not call your self cultured without reading the best selling book of all time.

This is in veggie tails 😂

What is left out is what the Lord did to punish David for this evil act. Part of the greater story here in my opinion is. No matter the blessings the Lord God may grant and give you as well as your importance in the God's plan. We are all human and sinners capable or good and evil. No matter how important to God plan you are or are not, we all fall short of what it takes to get into Heaven. God knows this and this is why he sent Jesus to die for our sins, so that we can experience and fill the Kingdom of Heaven.

The Torah (The first five Books of Moses) are the only books proposed to have been written with direct dictation from God.

Thought they were going to talk about an actual "Dark Bible".

I'm glad you watermarked joe rogan's video. Wouldn't want people thinking joe rogan made the video or something

The Bible isn't supposed to only tell of warm and fuzzy events. It's a record of history that tells of how God interacts with His people.

she asks Joe if he's read the whole Bible. He says yes, but later admits no. Most people are like this. They've read 1% but will lie to you and say they've read 100%. Unlike Joe, most of the people I talk to will dig in and defend the lie. What good does that do? You want to retain your ideas not based in reality? (1) Read the whole thing for yourself. Not that hard. Sure, it's a long work, but not that long. Or (2) trust me when I tell you where you're wrong. Don't like that? See (1).

Rotting woman in the thumbnail is from Scary Stories to tell in the dark. That book creeped me out when i was like 13.

I can’t explain why, but it’s weird to be discussing the Bible and smoking cigars.

That story is about Judah, the son of Jacob who became known as Israel. Rehab and Ruth are also in the line of Christ. There IS a message in that, at least, I have found one for me.

Nathan calls David out for this behavior .... she has no idea what she is talking bout ... the Bible doesn't hide the flaws of its heroes ... this woman has no idea what she is talking bout

The only people who've "never heard" these Bible stories... are people who don't go to church. This is standard stuff that is taught in Sunday School and preached on in sermons. The "woman before Eve" is NOT in the Apocrypha. That is Gnostic teachings. Which is NOT Biblical writings in any way shape or form. It's not taught in church. At least not a Bible believing church. To many people make the claim certain books wasn't added to the Bible. Yeah... books that have nothing to do with the Bible, or Christianity. That's no different than someone saying that the "eating ice cream, candy bars, and every other sweets diet" was left out of all our diet books.

I grew up in church and the only stories that weren't taught were 2 in i think Judges. The first is were a crowd demanded that a stranger in town be given to them so they could rape him, but the man hosting the stranger instead gave them his female servant. So they beat and gang raped the girl and afterwards, she crawls back to her masters house and dies outside his front door. If i remember right, this starts a big conflict where cities go to war with one another. The second is when a man prays to God for victory in battle and promises to sacrifice the first thing that approaches him when he gets home. So after the fight his daughter who is his only child is the first to approach him. He then lets his daughter go and grieve her virginity on a mountain with her friends for a time, and when she returns he sacrifices her.

Joe be playing "from Boston" card when in reality he from and has lived everywhere

The first time I went to Sunday School was when I was visiting relatives for a wedding. The story for that Sunday? Abraham being commanded by God to make a human sacrifice of his son Isaac.

That "scary stories to tell in the dark" book in the thumbnail used to scare the crap out of me when i was a kid 😱

When she was young the most popular Bible was -without question- the king James Version. For an 8 year old to read the KJV cover-to-cover would be akin to a 3rd grader reading Shakespeare's collected works. (Wordy, complex, rich and archane vocabulary, etc). The vast majority of people who claim to have read the entire Bible are doing so out of defensiveness.

I had a pastor in school (U.K) that would say every story in the bible good or bad. Make up our own minds while accentuating his belief. Best way to teach a religion imo.

Joe blowing smoke in her face 🤣🤣🤣

Can confirm: 1988 Florida. Principles still had paddles.

Only a person who really doesn’t know much about the Bible would say these stories are stories no one knows about. It’s proof of the honesty of the Bible.

Anyone else here because the thumbnail is “scary stories to tell in the dark” 😂🙌🏼

The Word is parabolic. Never ever does The Word contradict Itself. There’s much more being said than what’s on the surface level.

Never knew that David brought the soldier back. We were taught that he was sent to the front lines in Sunday school My dad was the jr high Sunday school teacher. He brought his Bill Cosby Noah's record to class and played it for us.

Who hasn’t heard of this

Gotta say, the thumbnail has me laughing so hard, that picture comes from the kids horror book called Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark. Page 30 is the picture page, the name of this particular story is called The Haunted House.

Dude put a photo from scary stories to tell in the dark as a cover photo for the vid

When she talks about why she asks if people actually read the whole bible or just parts. I read what youth group and the church taught us for that week 😂😂 I consider myself a Christian but a branch being a Nazarene Christian. I remember before being Nazarene my grandma is catholic out in LA and when they watched me and my siblings we’d go to Catholic Church on Sundays and during the week down to helping the church during the monthly food drives.

The Bible doesn't mean what people think it means. The Jesus story teaches you to become "Christ-like" (Aka: conscious.) You "die" figuratively and "return" changed. (Just like the Pagan mystery schools had taught long before Christianity.) To "enter the kingdom of heaven" is to become conscious. Awakened. Aware. But that's hard to see when early heterodox church killed off the Cathars and others who held the keys to unlock the metaphors. Now everyone takes the Bible literally because no one remembers the higher level MEANINGS.

Really enjoyed this short… now searching for the whole thing

Important part of King David's story is that he really was caught up. He was out of place not where he was supposed to be. His men were fighting in his name but he was posted up in the rear. The prophet told David a story about two neighbors. The story made King David burn with anger to the point that King David said this neighbor must die. The moment King David realized he was the villain in the story he repented and Yahweh could feel his hurt and repentance. As a result he lost that child he tried to cover and his house was cursed. "THE SWORD WILL REMAIN IN YOUR HOUSE" They are fighting today as you read this.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF WOMAN THAT WOULD LEAVE UNFLUSHED DIARRHEA IN THE BOWL

Some folk might know of this story & some don’t … no judgment just communication xxx Reading the Christian comments… Wow ! Patience & tolerance

I was once told... The bible, especially the Old Testament, has a lot of lessons on what you shouldn't do as much as it has lessons and commandments on what you should do. Also, slavery among the Israelites was heavily regulated. And was very rarely a lifetime condition/commitment.

The thumbnail photo from the 90s children’s book, “scary stories to tell in the dark”. Some of the coolest and evil looking artwork ever. The 90s ruled.

Judah ordered that Tamar be burned, not stoned. Genesis 38.24 If she had been guilty, the maximum penalty should have been stoning. But Judah says burned which is excessive. The point is that he's projecting his sin onto her. When people do that, they are typically very harsh about the other person's supposed sin which is actually there own. This is an important part of the story. It's funny that your Bible expert doesn't know this.

The Bible is brutally honest and shows the fallenness of mankind and how we need a Savior!

In David and Bathsheba story God doesn't kill the baby but David feels that God is punishing the baby for his sin, because the prophet of the lord asked about the spilled blood of his servant Urias. David asked for mercy to God and got it and his next son with Bathsheba lives and is named Solomon. Tamar started as a cursed woman (every men that she has dies and leave her without children) but she found grace under God and even though she brakes the law of her times she lives and becomes the mother of twins (From an Erdely man!) why? you may ask, could be the lesson is people over rules? or it was part of the plan of God the tribe growth hence stoning Tamar would be a counter purpose? Can't said myself only the that was God will...

Repent and believe in our Lord Jesus Christ

Another interesting thing, in the old days men didn't ask for "permission " to get laid

The Scriptures don't say that David forced her, nor does it say that she condoned it. There is a positive that came from it. David had many wives, but Bathsheba was the one whom God chose to be the line where Christ would be born. When you read Matthew's Gospel - it will show the Royal Line to Messiah through Bathsheba - when you read Luke's Gospel - it will show the Bloodline from Adam through Bathsheba to Messiah... there is much more to this!

i only came here to ask why theyre using a pic from scary stories to tell in the dark for thumbnail

David and Bathsheba was literally the first Bible lesson I had when I was a child. Factually, she recounted the events correctly. It is taught prominently in all denominations. It’s definitely in the “top 10-20” Bible stories. It means so many things about redemption and forgiveness and tragedy and death. Jordan Peterson could give a 4 hour lecture just on this story. And he wouldn’t scratch the surface.

The story of Batsheba and the murder of Uriah is interesting in that the plot is high-level and very secretive, only a handful of people know (David, Batsheba and Joab, the commander of the army, who put Uriah on the frontlines to die) yet once the conspiracy is masterfully wrapped and swept under the carpet; God through His prophet Nathan unwrapped it to expose David's sin. It's actually a wonder that the story was written (humiliating scandal for an otherwise a famous king), made it into the bible and got read by ancient Israelites and us. It's a dark story but so many lessons can be learned from it, and the biggest point IMO is God is always watching and knows your darkest secrets.

I love that the thumbnail inset is a pic from 'Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark'.

I recognized the scary illustration in the thumbnail as one by Stephen Gammell from the Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark books.

She left out the prophet Nathan who went to King David and exposed his sin. Then King David admits what he's done. The Bible is a story of redemption. If you're surprised that this story is in there, then you don't understand any of it.

What you are supposed to learn is that everyone that has ever walked the face of the earth is really messed up, and that God can used the most messed up people to accomplish goal of salvation for all that would accept it.

The believers here should understand more than anyone that they are speaking in generalizations when they mention that "no one" has read this stuff. Of course many Chirstians know these stories, that goes without saying. But I would guess that there are just as many Christians who know little to nothing of the Bible because they've either never read it themselves or depended upon the elders and pastors to do their reading for them. In my small corner of the world, the Christians were raised to know the Word. However, just a 30 minute drive away lives a majority of church-goers who dont know the first thing about the books. And this is true across the nation, and world for that matter.

Joe born in 67. You did grow up during the hippy age. You grew up with disco.

The overarching story of the Bible is that no matter how much God loves us and gives us things we don’t deserve, we still find a way to fuxk it up. We are FOREVER in need of Gods grace and mercy.

The Bible doesn't hide the fact that we are a fallen mankind and have a sin nature, but God in His Grace still uses the imperfect mankind through His providence to to achieve His purpose. King David realized and hated his sin, repented of his and confessed of his sin before God, and God by his mercy and grace restored David, although David had to still pay for his sin by the consequences it caused him through out the rest of his life

The story of Bathsheba was taught to us in Sunday school. I have no idea why??!! It’s not exactly kid-friendly.

What is the "something" in these stories? So if Satan or luci is so "cunning baffling powerful " Wouldn't that make him able to perverse the WPRLD THRUBFALSE DOCTRINE?

The Bible records controversy to find truth and purpose within it for the good of mankind. It can't be understood by individual verse and chapters alone. You must be able to read it, meditate, and reflect on it, to make sense of what is happening, and why commandments were given in response.

I've read the Bible every single day for over 40 years. I'm just curious as to why the thumbnail is using Alvin Schwartz and Stephen Gammell's absolutely legendary horror book _Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark._ 😆

The story of David and Bathsheba is preached and taught often in the churches. It's a common topic in Christian books, youtube video, podcasts, Bible studies, etc etc. It is one of the most well known Bible stories. You can only push that as some dark, secret story to Joe Rogan and other people who have never read the whole Bible, don't go to church, and aren't part of a Christian community. Among Christians, literally everybody knows it except for the few who just started coming the that church, or are babies, or are mentally handicapped, etc. "Dark Bible Stories That You Never Heard" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

1:44 Watching a cloud of smoke envelope her made me start laughing.

The story of Bathsheba is pretty well known for anyone who has spent enough time in church. It's a lesson teaching that even the beloved King David can fall to sin, and he was punished accordingly.

There is a reason why seminary students (at least in most evangelical seminaries) are required to study Hebrew, ancient cultures, language forms, etc. There is a cultural context that must be understood. And these things are not hidden from anyone; are commonly discussed in most churches, and if someone hasn't heard them, then one ought to question what sort of church you have been attending.

Paddle? We use to get canned or strapped in New Zealand, long cane across the ass, usually done by the deputy headmaster who was also the tennis coach, or hand out and a leather strap.

How about this, the Bible is a story of how man has fallen in SIN, yet the Creator loves man so much that HE takes the form of man to become SIN so all men that believeth may be saved.

Alhamdulillah for islam and the Qur'an that came to clarify the honor of prophet David and the rest of the prophets.

The 2nd story has a major meaning in it. I doubt she asked anyone what it meant because its a very well known story. The guy she slept with was none other than Judah, son of Jacob (Jacob is also known as Israel and had 12 sons making the 12 tribes of Israel). The Lord made a promise that the messiah would come out of the line of Judah but Judah was being kind of a jerk and purposefully not having children with a covenant woman meaning those kids were not a part of israel. So his daughter in law had a true covenant child out of wedlock pleasing the Lord because it fulfilled His promise that the Messiah would come from Judah. This teaches that God will do anything necessary to fulfill His promises. If you get a promise from God you can take that to the bank!

This is how you know she grow up in a cult.

What’s with the thumbnail? Are they reading from the Bible or Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark? I recognize that picture 😂😂😂

In order to understand, interpret and read the Bible,..You first must be familiar with two very important terms (sciences) for studying the Bible and those are hermeneutic and exegesis, one is about what is the verse that i am reading telling me about now and today and my life and condition in general and the other one "exegesis" is about context and what actually happened.

Anyone want to explain to Michelle what leverite marriage is? That's extremely important especially within a middle Eastern tribal culture. Context

This is what happens when people read the Scriptures in their flesh and not the Spirit. They miss the whole point of the story and its meaning.

The story of Jephtha is a story they don't tell in Sunday school. Human sacrifice doesn't really fit the narrative.

I read Odyssey when I was 8! That's crazy 😮

The moral of the story is GRACE!!! simple as that. David was as falible or worse than us so there is HOPE :-)

It seems like people who don’t read the Bible don’t really understand what it is about. Who would have known.

What is missing in all of this story, is that Bathsheeba had a choice. But women are attracted to power, so she was making a move up with the King David fling. The way we know that they had a choice back then, is that the old testament makes a point of labeling grape as wrong in other stories. There was no ordering go on. Bathsheeba was ordered to show up at the palace. What happened next was partially a choice on her part.

When they talk about slaves in the Bible it was more like people working for you because you had to pay your slave you had to be kind to your slave you had to give your slave allowance so a slave was more like your employee not the way we use slave today. Also when they talk about the stories about David and Bathsheba they are showing us real life events as they happen you can seem to be a good person but still do bad things still screw up but you can be forgiven with the right behavior. The other thing that people don't seem to realize is that when you die it's just your body that dies your spirit lives on so dying necessarily is not a bad thing you're released from the pain that you have in a human body the restrictions that you have in a human body. So yes people pick up the Bible and read it do not let somebody tell you what it says...

Lombard isn’t even close to Haight lol