David Miscavige's First And Only Media Interview | Ted Koppel

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David Miscavige's first and only media interview was with Ted Koppel on Nightline, live on Feb 14, 1992.
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Outline
0:00 - Introduction
1:01 - Time magazine: The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power
1:52 - Bad press
2:31 - Interview Intro Package #1
4:07 - The Int Base & Golden Era Productions
4:49 - Heber Jenztsch: President of the Church of Scientology
5:36 - Ken Rose
5:47 - The OCA Personality test
6:34 - Courses, auditing & the E-meter
7:04 - Critics of Scientology
7:16 - Richard Behar
7:33 - Dr. John Finucane
8:56 - Ken Rose
9:27 - Roxanne Friend
10:37 - Denials and accusations
11:02 - David Miscavige interview teaser
11:13 - Interview Intro Package #2
11:24 - L. Ron Hubbard on camera (1966)
11:42 - L. Ron Hubbard's background
12:24 - Dianetics and psychiatry
13:31 - Hubbard visits the Van Allen radiation belt
14:08 - Hubbard tells Scientology's confidential OT 3 story about Xenu
14:52 - Roxanne Friend: Auditing Body Thetans on the OT Levels
15:07 - Scientology's confidential OT Levels
15:46 - L. Ron Hubbard dies
16:16 - Richard Behar gets "fair gamed" by Scientology
16:45 - Scientology's "Fair Game" policy
17:07 - Vicki Aznaran - former Chairman of the Board RTC
17:53 - More denials and accusations
18:26 - David Miscavige interview begins
19:01 - Miscavige responds to the intro packages
19:44 - Cult Awareness Network
20:14 - Miscavige & Scientology are the ones getting harassed
23:35 - Why would I want to be a Scientologist?
26:53 - Scientology is interested in folks who have money
27:41 - Scientology is the largest social reform group in the entire world
28:52 - Scientology & psychiatry
31:12 - Undermining L. Ron Hubbard's credibility
33:42 - Miscavige lies about not knowing the context of Hubbard's Van Allen belt quote
35:06 - More about Scientology's war on psychiatry
35:44 - Siberia USA
37:05 - Psychiatry retaliates against Scientology
38:22 - Miscavige accuses FDA of murdering a Scientologist
39:55 - Why Miscavige accepted the interview with Ted Koppel
41:13 - Scientology's response to the TIME magazine article
42:24 - Miscavige accuses Richard Behar kidnapping conspiracy
45:17 - Miscavige accuses Richard Behar of working for Eli Lilly
47:21 - How far can the poor progress in Scientology?
49:36 - What does Scientology do that's different?
52:31 - How is the E-meter used in auditing?
55:49 - Could Miscavige audit Ted Koppel on-air?
56:20 - Using clay while studying
57:40 - Why is Scientology so expensive?
58:29 - Vicki Aznaran
1:00:49 - Roxanne Friend
1:01:25 - Miscavige lies about only using Scientologist doctors
1:02:16 - The Sea Organization & attacks on Scientology
1:04:43 - Miscavige admits to being personally involved with internal investigations
1:05:21 - Miscavige accuses critics of being coordinated
1:06:32 - Miscavige claims Dianetics cured his asthma
1:07:42 - Narconon attacked by psychiatry
1:09:37 - Earth's vested interests are threatened by Scientology
1:09:57 - What is a Clear?
1:11:29 - Why is Scientology a religion?

КОМЕНТАРІ: 9 500
@user-kv6wh6ez5w
@user-kv6wh6ez5w 4 місяці тому
The worst thing that could have happened to Scientology was the Internet.
@GhostofJamesMadison
@GhostofJamesMadison 3 місяці тому
Frfr
@Vulhala
@Vulhala 3 місяці тому
Yep. The ability to communicate widely. The irony 😂
@bandlehars
@bandlehars 3 місяці тому
It’s a great information tool for the victims though.
@bandlehars
@bandlehars 3 місяці тому
@@KH-3414 It’s a good information tool, but it still will not help them find his wife or prosecute the establishment for all of their crimes against people.
@bandlehars
@bandlehars 3 місяці тому
@@KH-3414 ughh….because people were said to have been held captive and unable to leave. That’s kidnapping. I don’t see anyone prosecuted for this. Or held accountable by any other means or measures.
@arghyetlol
@arghyetlol 7 місяців тому
For a man so opposed to Psychiatry, he's the perfect candidate for an evaluation.
@TheNinnyfee
@TheNinnyfee 7 місяців тому
For people opposed to psychiatry they are awfully interested in controlling people's minds.
@teeellecee
@teeellecee 7 місяців тому
Narcissistic people rarely seek out therapy. And even if they do, they are rarely self-aware enough to actually change.
@polkadotsuzanne9306
@polkadotsuzanne9306 7 місяців тому
Hilarious
@LerwickH
@LerwickH 7 місяців тому
@@teeelleceeso true
@ky9933
@ky9933 7 місяців тому
He tried to be a psychiatrist and the officials told him he didn't qualify, so like the child he perpetually was he made his OWN version of mental issue health and vilified the (actually effective) psychiatry.
@c.s.christopher5801
@c.s.christopher5801 4 місяці тому
I’m amazed how similar David’s mannerisms is to Tom Cruise’s. It’s like Tom admired this man so much and spent so much time with him, he adopted his whole shtick.
@benjaminblumberg1335
@benjaminblumberg1335 3 місяці тому
I was thinking the same thing while watching this...
@aronrosas4191
@aronrosas4191 3 місяці тому
They actually believe their doppelgangers of each other, there's a bizarre practice in scientology where members have "twins".
@zonefitzgerald
@zonefitzgerald 2 місяці тому
Bingo. This is exactly what I felt - Tom Cruise in a other body and a different face, basically.
@FordFarm777
@FordFarm777 Місяць тому
It is called twinning and it is directly from mk ultra trauma based mind control with also includes Satanic Ritual Abuse! See Jessie Czebotar ​@@aronrosas4191
@jamiemccornack5770
@jamiemccornack5770 Місяць тому
I thought the exact same thing before coming across this comment, so I had to weigh in.. it's actually scary. And I actually like Tom cruise, but I'm also aware that he's a nutball.. brainwashed by the CULT of scientology
@jackklenk4352
@jackklenk4352 4 місяці тому
“I’m perfectly happy. What can Scientology do for me?” “It isn’t for you then.” Seems legit.
@Malthus
@Malthus 3 місяці тому
Hands down the best "gotcha" moment in the interview. Just like any other cult, and above anything else, Scientology prays on people's weaknesses.
@evanstein3011
@evanstein3011 2 місяці тому
But 48:02 "This is the right religion for anybody." Lol
@joesmith-em2cd
@joesmith-em2cd 2 місяці тому
@@evanstein3011😂😂😂😂
@youtbe999
@youtbe999 Місяць тому
In the case of a wealthy celebrity ted Koppel, the real question becomes: Don't ask what scientology can do for Koppel, ask what Koppel can do for scientology.
@karenleemallonee684
@karenleemallonee684 Місяць тому
😂
@LuigiMordelAlaume
@LuigiMordelAlaume Рік тому
Man, the good ol' days when news included investigative journalism.
@thescarletgraywitch8052
@thescarletgraywitch8052 Рік тому
My thought exactly
@sandihill
@sandihill Рік тому
How true that 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@GrowingUpInScientology
@GrowingUpInScientology Рік тому
Thank you for watching and commenting
@wordsleuth992
@wordsleuth992 Рік тому
I know - that was truly fascinating. And the interviewer was brilliant… I wish I knew his reputation or had seen him before!!!
@RMBlake007
@RMBlake007 Рік тому
@@wordsleuth992 Ted Koppel is a legendary journalist...in the 80's and 90's perhaps one of the worlds best known news anchors (ABC - Dateline) 42 years, many awards for his work, in a day when journalistic integrity was everything. They don't make them like that anymore.
@ChrisMhiclochlainn
@ChrisMhiclochlainn Рік тому
You can easily see why David Miscavige has only done one interview. To a Scientologist he probably sounds like a strong defender of their faith, to the average viewer he sounds like an incoherent, accusatory, paranoid, question dodging politician. Thank you Aaron for uploading the entire interview for our entertainment, Miscavige’s accusations are just wild!
@mariannerivera2720
@mariannerivera2720 Рік тому
HECIS DISGUSTING, HE'S NOTHING BUT A CON, A SNAKE OIL SALESMEN HE IS SO FULL OF IT, SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER CON PSYCHOPATH TRUMP!!
@terricarroll9679
@terricarroll9679 Рік тому
...and arrogant, rude, and obnoxious.
@ronilittle7028
@ronilittle7028 Рік тому
@@wlm4981 YES! Sounded EXACTLY like Tom Cruise! UNBELIEVABLE! Even the body language! Wow!
@captainfancypants1877
@captainfancypants1877 Рік тому
@@ronilittle7028 Chicken and egg...or does TC sound like him?
@mrjohnklake
@mrjohnklake Рік тому
@@terricarroll9679 I was thinking narcissistic which includes those traits
@Uarehere
@Uarehere 3 місяці тому
Remember when journalists used to be skeptical of con artists rather than propping them up? We need more people like Ted Koppel in this world!
@kiwe3546
@kiwe3546 3 місяці тому
I don’t pay attention to the media. What con artists do they prop up?
@commonsensical9409
@commonsensical9409 3 місяці тому
@@kiwe3546 Joe Bidan
@Brainbaskit
@Brainbaskit 3 місяці тому
You're referring to tucker Carlson?; They are literally entertainment, and have used that claim to defend themselves against defamation in court, brainiac.
@thomasluby1754
@thomasluby1754 3 місяці тому
@@Brainbaskit Not "literally" dum, dum. One of the definitions of literally is NOT "Use for emphasis". So annoying and uneducated.
@harrycgrace4504
@harrycgrace4504 3 місяці тому
Ted is a damn biased hack for the democrats.
@HighVibes4All
@HighVibes4All 3 місяці тому
Ted Koppel gave a masterclass on the correct way to interview someone.
@thomasluby1754
@thomasluby1754 3 місяці тому
I don't know anything about a Masterclass but he did a good job. Very calm and relaxed while Miscavige was intense and anxious.
@ytuser_3122
@ytuser_3122 Місяць тому
@@thomasluby1754I didn’t even know that, Miscavige acts like his BFF Tom Cruise in that 2000s interview he did with Matt Lauer where he hates on Brooke Shields
@richardsantanna5398
@richardsantanna5398 День тому
He did a horrible job. He's wouldn't stop interrupting and let David finish a sentence.
@lionharpmusic
@lionharpmusic Рік тому
“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
@janetmcarthur5257
@janetmcarthur5257 Рік тому
He doesn't have any wealth---or political power, ability to sentence people to his own private prison, or the ability to physically beat anyone with his own hands as punishment---that people haven't willingly given him.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 Рік тому
Jan 6
@gr8oone007
@gr8oone007 Рік тому
men can get pregnant
@janelleabbott2227
@janelleabbott2227 Рік тому
Lil man syndrom.....this is what David Miscavidge is suffering from. I can also see he becomes angry easily. Whydoesnt &e ask David Miscavidge where he gets his $ from? How does he live. He says over and over again I don't take any $ check with the IRS. Well then why is he a millionare?
@fbg5678
@fbg5678 Рік тому
Love the quote.
@skiddi_botti
@skiddi_botti Рік тому
It never ceases to amaze me how much Tom Cruise talks like Miscavige.
@hannahbride3310
@hannahbride3310 Рік тому
Same speech, mannerisms, and aggression. Creepy as hell.
@skiddi_botti
@skiddi_botti Рік тому
@@hannahbride3310 like clones of each other. Very creepy indeed.
@tomschmitz261
@tomschmitz261 Рік тому
think, this is the man, tom cruise, who worships him, salutes him and emasculates himself for over 30 years to miscavige! who calls miscavige, the leader of his "religion" his best friend (who in reality in laughing behind his back and using him), and who seemingly does not understand that a religious leader HAS no best friend because it's improper, immoral and unethical to treat any member above other members. And i'm pretty sure most "religious leaders" do not hang out doing all kinds of non religious activities with a member like attending car races, riding motorcycles together, and so on. And i'm pretty sure most "religions" don't have "handlers" to "handle' a member by giving them access to their professional and personal life...
@brianwalsh1401
@brianwalsh1401 Рік тому
@@hannahbride3310 Both of them are narcissist.
@Dorothysslippers
@Dorothysslippers Рік тому
i imagine they read these comment together and are really flattered
@matthewmarkgodman
@matthewmarkgodman 4 місяці тому
I can’t stop laughing imagining that Miscavige is standing the entire interview.
@tjmackie4815
@tjmackie4815 4 місяці тому
Don’t understand how this isn’t the top comment
@egbertpladdet9093
@egbertpladdet9093 3 місяці тому
Lol
@missmew5240
@missmew5240 3 місяці тому
This!🙌🤣
@roxieolemeda3196
@roxieolemeda3196 2 місяці тому
Ha ha ha 😊 That's a good one
@Nozarks1
@Nozarks1 2 місяці тому
I don’t get it
@freethinker13
@freethinker13 3 місяці тому
It’s so crazy how David’s wife has been missing for 17 years and no one cares👀 David also hiding out. I don’t know how Scientology is still active.
@t.h.337
@t.h.337 2 місяці тому
They are active because of $. Paying the law off. Selling absolute bullshit to people at a high price so that they can. $ really is the root of all evil.
@japonte173
@japonte173 2 місяці тому
they’re just insanely secretive and reclusive. people report shelley missing and LAPD investigates and says she isn’t missing, so unless scientology controls the entirety of the LAPD i think it’s more logical to assume they have their own insane reclusive church thing going on and she never leaves wherever she is.
@MegaasAlexandros
@MegaasAlexandros 2 місяці тому
She's not missing, she's been sighted and spoken to.
@berzerkfury1459
@berzerkfury1459 7 днів тому
​@@japonte173or high ranking officers are members??
@ninasteil7315
@ninasteil7315 Рік тому
Can totally see why Miscavage no longer does interviews. He comes across as a complete nut job. I’m sure he hates that this interview is on UKposts for anyone to watch at anytime. Kind of makes me smile.
@theloanranger2632
@theloanranger2632 Рік тому
Miscavige did a pretty damn good job for a first time interview that was also on live tv. You're just jealous
@benjaminhawthorne1969
@benjaminhawthorne1969 Рік тому
At least he did not jump up and down on Ted's desk! 😂
@Sanctified57
@Sanctified57 Рік тому
To be honest I think he comes across very well
@BeeLZBeeb
@BeeLZBeeb Рік тому
He’s the kind of man who sounds good to those who are already taken in, if not by Scientology then by other systems and beliefs that use these tactics. I feel for those people because they don’t understand how easily taken in they are. He comes across as a bully and narcissist who is comfortable in the centre of his web.
@funny3scene
@funny3scene Рік тому
@@Sanctified57 you come across as an insane brainwashed cultist for defending him
@lesliewells1062
@lesliewells1062 Рік тому
I love it how Ted Koppel is not letting David Miscavige steam roll over him no matter how hard he tries to. How many lies can one person tell per minute?
@micahmcallister5554
@micahmcallister5554 Рік тому
How many minutes is this video 😂
@wallywam1
@wallywam1 Рік тому
Ted Koppel is an SP 😂
@lesliewells1062
@lesliewells1062 Рік тому
Aren't we all?
@marshaweinstein9861
@marshaweinstein9861 Рік тому
I'm tempted to say that DJT can tell more lies per minute, but this video is old, Miscaviage has had a long time to practice. Maybe they're on par.
@GrowingUpInScientology
@GrowingUpInScientology Рік тому
Indeed!
@lasernatoo8657
@lasernatoo8657 5 місяців тому
For anyone curious, Miscavige learned that the show would be split up into two parts right before the interview was about to happen. Fearing that they would style their questions in the first part of the show to make him look bad in the second part, "Miscavige grabbed [Nightline's exec producer] by the shirt collar, pushed him against the wall, and screamed in his face, “YOU LIED! You’re trying to fuck me over! You handle this or we’re all walking out!”" They caved to his demands, showed him the pre-recorded segments, and aired them at the top of the show. This is from a memoir by Mike Rinder, who escaped Scientology after working for decades in its top ranks. Really interesting read.
@avatarion
@avatarion 4 місяці тому
It's pretty obvious they were doing everything in their power to make him look bad. The media has always been that way. For decades they've now tried to make every right-wing commentator look also bad.
@klaytonpeterson
@klaytonpeterson 3 місяці тому
Rinder Rocks !!...
@kiwe3546
@kiwe3546 3 місяці тому
That just makes Miscavige sound like a badass.
@NoodlesWithLipstick
@NoodlesWithLipstick 3 місяці тому
@@kiwe3546Makes him sound like an immature toddler.
@Frip36
@Frip36 3 місяці тому
So he didn't take an of the many sly tricks the networks are known for? Sound like my kinda guy.
@jamesanderson6351
@jamesanderson6351 4 місяці тому
Amazing interview by a Ted Koppel. I believe Ted had the right personality for this task. Never allowed feelings or emotions dictate this interview. Classic example of being outsmarted.
@astreaward6651
@astreaward6651 9 місяців тому
David Miscavige: "Scientology cured my asthma!" Also David Miscavige: Wheezing throughout the entire interview.
@Njr81
@Njr81 9 місяців тому
I noticed that early on with him also.
@marie_h1104
@marie_h1104 8 місяців тому
Noticed that as well.
@roxieolemeda3196
@roxieolemeda3196 8 місяців тому
I know right 👉 😁
@shantishanti1949
@shantishanti1949 8 місяців тому
no wheezing heard by me - get your ears checked !
@astreaward6651
@astreaward6651 8 місяців тому
@@shantishanti1949 On your authority alone? LOL Okay, boomer.
@guitaoist
@guitaoist 10 місяців тому
“Convince me why I should be a scientologist” “Because you love yourself” Straight out of cult leader 101
@TheNinnyfee
@TheNinnyfee 7 місяців тому
Always addressing the ego and hoping that it is unchecked.
@shellymorey1732
@shellymorey1732 6 місяців тому
Exactly
@steve-0493
@steve-0493 3 місяці тому
I can help you,and u will benefit, but I benefit more off u and the others that Hear the exact same message, regardless of the way the 'individual ' hears!!at the end of the fucking cycle/season/day,I will benefit off the stepping stones aka..PEOPLE.. notice that whoever speaks the religion, whoever has this power,accumulates more power,more money,now MORE POWER.. Answer:every single fucking 'religion ' conceived...dont ever come at me about bad and hell,cause while living, I have experienced hell,at my own fault,an with other folks on MY journey..and I still acknowledge that somewhere out there-SOMEONE HAS IT BETTER THAN YOU!!AAAANNNNNDDD SOMONE HAS IT WORSE THAN YOU!! ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS,IF U HATE UR LIFE,OR LOVE IT LOL..ALWAYS...SOME ARE BETTER OFF,SOME ARE WORSE OFF!! Find this balance, accept/respect YOUR own Thread!!threads are different, despite this same 'look'...that's us..threads...some feel weak enough to sacrifice family,money,love,children,ANYTHING to feel what??Important???EARTH IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT U WILL BE IMPORTANT (in ur head)COMPARED TO THE ENDLESS.....VASTNESS....OF SPACE.....smile and be insignificant!!!😂🤷‍♂️✌️😑🍻💯🤔🙃
@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru
@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru 3 місяці тому
Same as christianity... creepy
@lizmiller3325
@lizmiller3325 3 місяці тому
He is the most dangerous cult leader I have ever seen. And trust me I have seen a few. The fact that he is still in control is sickening. I think he murdered the leader. He is a sick sick man
@michaelmcdonald9847
@michaelmcdonald9847 4 місяці тому
David just sounds like a really good defense lawyer, which is essentially what he is
@Alex-me3yn
@Alex-me3yn 9 днів тому
he is quite literally on the cutting edge of the law beyond that of a lawyer who passed the bar, he blurs the line between cartoon bond villan criminal enterprise and formally registered tax entity and somehow continues to survive for decades
@MrSchelling
@MrSchelling 4 місяці тому
Ted: What can scientology can do for me? Miscavige: I will tell you, but first sign the contract for a billion years!
@eternalpeaceandjoy
@eternalpeaceandjoy 11 місяців тому
I’m not even sure how anyone could listen before coming to the obvious conclusion: David is nuts. It’s all in the eyes.
@shantishanti1949
@shantishanti1949 8 місяців тому
and even thee is a little strange.
@sandypatty19
@sandypatty19 7 місяців тому
Tom Cruise has the same eyes
@user-xe4bk8zs8y
@user-xe4bk8zs8y 7 місяців тому
Glad you noted the eyes. I just wrote a comment then resumed watching and took note of his eyes..was so struck by what is there I was about to make a 2nd comment but decided to read comments to see if anyone else sees it. Glad you did and hope others see it too cuz it is really profound. ? for you..nuts or evil? You can guess my opinion.
@eternalpeaceandjoy
@eternalpeaceandjoy 7 місяців тому
@@user-xe4bk8zs8y both!
@genevabecker8441
@genevabecker8441 7 місяців тому
I'm a secular retired therapist...when I listen to these conversations I can only conclude that the reason that Scientologists so fear therapy is because they believe that you will diagnose them, or they may have to consider the possibility that maybe they are a little crazy (that is the professional term ;) ) when, in fact, in my experience EVERYONE is a little crazy, including myself...:)
@dugongsdoitbetter
@dugongsdoitbetter Рік тому
What saved me from Scientology when I was young??? I had and have zero follow through and never finish anything I start. Super grateful for this shortcoming now.
@JasonSmith-jr7jh
@JasonSmith-jr7jh Рік тому
!!!!!!!!!!!!!😂
@solitary-sun
@solitary-sun Рік тому
Missed opportunity to leave your comment unfinished
@TheEsotericLeftist
@TheEsotericLeftist 11 місяців тому
Hey twin
@neanda
@neanda 11 місяців тому
🤣 abilities some consider to be unnatural, but are actually useful
@joshua-nf3rx
@joshua-nf3rx 10 місяців тому
Love it man!! Keep going 100 percent ! Ooopppsss I mean 50 percent !
@zeldahopper
@zeldahopper 2 місяці тому
I have low-key anxiety just listening to him gaslight. Total maniac.
@JR-xf3cu
@JR-xf3cu 5 місяців тому
If you think of a Miscavige like the CEO of a business, he really doesn’t sound too dissimilar from any other. The way he sells / defends his product.
@Mark-lj1dj
@Mark-lj1dj Місяць тому
It kind of reminds me of that guy who was a spokesman for the fast food industry in supersize me. Just constantly trying to skirt the truth and bend the facts. "If you're poor how do you progress in scientology?" "Well anyone who practices scientology isn't poor for very long, they're very successful"
@guydreamr
@guydreamr 22 дні тому
Studies have shown that CEO is one of the professions with the highest numbers of psychopaths.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Рік тому
30 years after this damning feature, and not only have there been no investigations/arrests, but Scientology is still allowed to operate in the United States. Mind boggling.
@kareem8533
@kareem8533 Рік тому
The question is: How can Biden still be "operating".
@tomschmitz261
@tomschmitz261 Рік тому
money talks and bullshit walks... they have bribed and have their fingers in the i.r.s., various police forces (lapd), and other authorities and politicians...add in our WAY OVERBOARD freedom of religion amendment and there you go!
@happydayz7857
@happydayz7857 Рік тому
Because the line is still drawn at ‘freedom of religion’ when it should be classified as a criminal organization subject to the RICO act.
@tomschmitz261
@tomschmitz261 Рік тому
@@happydayz7857 true... unfortunately, in this country, "freedom of religion" seemingly is more important than anything even illegality!
@2shel171
@2shel171 Рік тому
...as a non-profit....tax free corporation
@JessicaC.
@JessicaC. 8 місяців тому
This is back when journalists still had balls! Back when the media wasn't scared to possibly " hurt feelings " using words. I remember watching this live when I was younger. Ted was a mfn G!
@mattdad8429
@mattdad8429 7 місяців тому
The way David kept trying to run the interview and Ted was like "yeah, nah kid" and steamrolled over him was hilarious.
@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808
@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808 7 місяців тому
​@@mattdad8429Koppel was masterful, wasn't he. I saw this at the time.
@cherylgarry460
@cherylgarry460 7 місяців тому
The grift. Some people will believe anything.
@dortjuorfu478
@dortjuorfu478 6 місяців тому
You lost me at 'mfn G'
@mattdad8429
@mattdad8429 6 місяців тому
@@dortjuorfu478 Sheeeit, she HAD me at mfn G
@marydungan6748
@marydungan6748 4 місяці тому
His wife hasn't been seen in 15 years and he refuses to say where she is. He's also been said to beat up on people who want to leave. They were all a bunch of nuts They're all a bunch of nuts.
@chellefell1331
@chellefell1331 2 місяці тому
I was thinking about her whole watching this.... I wonder if she is in witness protection.....
@pattyladd
@pattyladd 3 місяці тому
I didn't know this interview had happened until today, I have watched many interviews in the last few years starting with Leah Remini. She has put a spotlight on this group, and since then it is very difficult to not see something is very very wrong. I hope her lawsuit sheds more light, my heart goes out to the ones who were and are being deceived and victimized.
@xpatzorsx
@xpatzorsx Рік тому
God, you can just tell in his eyes that he wants to pitch a fit and yell or try to hit Koppel. He knows he can't, and it's throwing him off. He isn't in his controlled environment where everyone lets him do whatever he wants. He's a spoiled brat that's finally run into someone that isn't having his bullshit. It's wonderful.
@wooshbait36
@wooshbait36 9 місяців тому
Okay mister psychologist, didn't recognize you in UKposts comments
@MCO18
@MCO18 9 місяців тому
And he’s not given another interview since
@thinktankcritic5267
@thinktankcritic5267 8 місяців тому
You are full of BS. See what in his eyes exactly? You must be psychic lol 😂
@upfront2375
@upfront2375 8 місяців тому
He's under pressure.. so of course he's gonna look crazy! We've all been there, except for it wasn't on TV heheh
@xpatzorsx
@xpatzorsx 8 місяців тому
@@upfront2375 1) Are you actually sticking up for David Miscavige?? 2) PLENTY of other people who aren't used to being on camera have been under a similar or more intense level of scrutiny on camera and haven't acted that way. It's also important to note that he's trying to promote a belief system(essentially a for-profit church) that's supposed to provide people with the ability to handle any hardship and is falling apart because of high school level critical thinking questions.
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 10 місяців тому
"It never ceases to amaze me how much Tom Cruise talks like Miscavige." I approve this message.
@mr.niceguy1498
@mr.niceguy1498 9 місяців тому
It’s like they are twins!
@CarlaLou-ov8yc
@CarlaLou-ov8yc 9 місяців тому
I’m sure you do approve
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 9 місяців тому
@@CarlaLou-ov8yc And how about you "CarlaLou"?... Are you a troll/bot paid for by the Cult and Complete and Utter Delusion that is 'scientology'?...
@bvdsovereign1553
@bvdsovereign1553 8 місяців тому
Tom imitates him or he toms🤔
@Charles-in3zt
@Charles-in3zt 8 місяців тому
In the motion picture industry it is widely known Tom Cruise is of very poor intelligence.
@JonnM
@JonnM 3 місяці тому
This guy is absolutely nuts. There is no lie too great that this Miscavige won’t spout.
@user-wp3tf5bu7n
@user-wp3tf5bu7n 4 місяці тому
As a retired psychologist l would love to give this man a series of testing. Its amazing what some uneducated people can make out of nothing!!!!
@SlickArmor
@SlickArmor 3 місяці тому
Like an E-meter testing? Except one that's AMA approved.
@Frip36
@Frip36 3 місяці тому
Meanwhile your profession changes it's fundamental views on what is healthy and normal vs. detrimental and demented, depending on the political winds.
@gingerbee6719
@gingerbee6719 3 місяці тому
He is simply a con man, lots of them out there. He just hit the jackpot on the biggest Scam under the guise of Religion...haha mixing Science & Religion is such an Oxymoron....😂
@09rja
@09rja Рік тому
This guy needs to run for something: he's mastered the art of talking forever and not saying anything.
@bkohler89
@bkohler89 Рік тому
That's called a politician bro
@Pretermit_Sound
@Pretermit_Sound Рік тому
@@bkohler89 which is why the OP said he should run for something. Everybody knows that’s called a politician 🫤
@trickortrump3292
@trickortrump3292 Рік тому
@@bkohler89 That was the point of the comment.
@debrabader806
@debrabader806 11 місяців тому
Former Scientologists, who decided to leave, the church, said that David was a sociopath. He actually tortured some people by beating him physically and psychologically. This should be outlawed. In addition to the above claims, another one of the Scientologists that wanted to leave said “ You cannot be poor and be a Scientologist”. Now that’s a real red flag right there Debra Bader.
@nedtaylor1983
@nedtaylor1983 11 місяців тому
Exactly what interests liberals. Why they vote Democrat.
@JASPER0007
@JASPER0007 7 місяців тому
He's got more Tom Cruise mannerisms than Tom Cruise.
@Francis-xl2gu
@Francis-xl2gu 5 місяців тому
They both come out the same mould
@Abrookesong
@Abrookesong 3 місяці тому
Came here to say this! They look soo much alike
@toph8298
@toph8298 2 місяці тому
More like Tom Cruise has adopted David Miscavige mannerisms
@stefanbernhard2710
@stefanbernhard2710 Місяць тому
Same haircut, same impoverished intellect.
@rayannaandrade6337
@rayannaandrade6337 Місяць тому
I think they are lovers
@CaBr.
@CaBr. 5 місяців тому
This gives me "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it" - vibes.
@canadianhappyinitalytruest6556
@canadianhappyinitalytruest6556 3 місяці тому
Ha ha! Yes miscavige is like a prep school billy Madison! Ha ha ha!!
@viridianhughes219
@viridianhughes219 Місяць тому
💯
@markherden4660
@markherden4660 3 місяці тому
Yo when he said "space planes" and described them as literal DC 8s but just with space propulsion I literally burst out laughing on the bus, drawing the stares of the others. What a story.
@t0m_mcc
@t0m_mcc 18 днів тому
This is what Scientologists actually believe
@ChristianNewsandInterviews
@ChristianNewsandInterviews 10 місяців тому
Ted Koppel retained control of the interview. He was a master of interviews.
@ChristianNewsandInterviews
@ChristianNewsandInterviews 10 місяців тому
P.S. - WHERE is Shelley Miscavige?
@TDOLLA
@TDOLLA 8 місяців тому
haha Ted Koppel was the real deal. You can really tell David Miscavige is a man used to having the final word and used to being in charge. You can almost see flames in his eyes anytime Ted cut him off or pushed back.
@roxieolemeda3196
@roxieolemeda3196 8 місяців тому
​@@TDOLLAHe's a little bully I guess he's assaulted people physically 😮
@stephanie-atarahrose.8149
@stephanie-atarahrose.8149 8 місяців тому
Testosterone levels are plummeting nowadays. Relates to communication.
@anastasiarose9003
@anastasiarose9003 8 місяців тому
I noticed he squeezed his hands together a few times to maintain control.
@kelleymcbride4633
@kelleymcbride4633 Рік тому
It's clear why this cult leader stopped doing interviews. You can hear the lawyers pulling thier hair out listening to him spew this nonsense. This is a man who is used to being agreed with 100% of the time. Thanks for the upload!
@thescarletgraywitch8052
@thescarletgraywitch8052 Рік тому
Consummate Yes man for sure!!
@GrowingUpInScientology
@GrowingUpInScientology Рік тому
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@micahmcallister5554
@micahmcallister5554 Рік тому
That’s a good point. He exists In his own bubble.
@lisanewman5378
@lisanewman5378 Рік тому
@@LadyPamela63 While I definitely hope not, I don't believe Shelly is still alive.
@wordsleuth992
@wordsleuth992 Рік тому
@@lisanewman5378 I don’t either. They may have someone speaking for her, until I see her in person I’m afraid she is not with us.
@YzerWings
@YzerWings 3 місяці тому
He cant even clearly describe why someone would want to be a Scientologist.
@TizerisT.
@TizerisT. Місяць тому
Ted Koppel is/was a master interrogator. Such a classic gent but when he's probing you and reading you, quite intimidating.
@mayscough72
@mayscough72 Рік тому
For me as a Brit these old school American news presenters and journalists were untouchable
@cookiechaser126
@cookiechaser126 Рік тому
How they are introduced after commercial is nostalgic
@qprfan1977
@qprfan1977 Рік тому
@@cookiechaser126 uupiii😊ppppipp😊ipi😊ppuj. U have have to to get get back back from i
@ethanwashoe5868
@ethanwashoe5868 Рік тому
That interviewer is also British born but grew up in america
@TaylorTrask
@TaylorTrask Рік тому
Sadly, we no longer produce real journalists.
@JamesC1981
@JamesC1981 Рік тому
@@ethanwashoe5868 yes i was gonna say also
@mikeseal2266
@mikeseal2266 7 місяців тому
I can really see why him and Tom Cruise get along so well. They’re like smug maniacal twins.
@thenightporter
@thenightporter 3 місяці тому
I can't stand Tom Cruise. That 💩 he said about Brooke Shields was reprehensible. What an 🍑
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 3 місяці тому
What did he say?
@Frip36
@Frip36 3 місяці тому
They are not smug. They are the opposite of smug. People like to call people smug as a way around calling them an asshole.
@woodyforest7308
@woodyforest7308 Місяць тому
Boyfriend's
@albertupardsnipec5988
@albertupardsnipec5988 11 днів тому
First time hearing Mr Miscavige, very impressed, makes many interesting points and valid criticisms of societal norms.
@GrowingUpInScientology
@GrowingUpInScientology 11 днів тому
🤣🤣🤣
@iridescentsquids
@iridescentsquids 6 місяців тому
He’s exactly like the timeshare salesman I encountered in Cancun. Such a wasteful way to live. It’s all based on this understanding that if you’re going to lie you might as well tell the biggest lie you can think of-be as greedy as you can possibly be. Once you decide to sell your soul for self interest there no reason to hold back. It creates these most adamant monsters of outrageous lies without shame--unrelenting forces of harm.
@michellestelletos9265
@michellestelletos9265 Рік тому
Absolute pleasure to observe a GENUINE journalist. They are extinct in this generation.
@gombocdimensional9050
@gombocdimensional9050 Рік тому
@@mustaffa1611 wait, are you for real? you do know they've been exposed time and time and again for being fake news right? hell, if you fell their bullshit you're probably the type of person who falls for the scientology con in the first place.
@gombocdimensional9050
@gombocdimensional9050 Рік тому
@@mustaffa1611 it's a cool concept really, but they edit out the context all the time to make people look worse then they actually are and hell weren't they apart of the whole "stolen election" shit, yeah those losers are very trustworthy...to people who are easily swayed (i.e. those qanon cunts). hell if you consider yourself, a truly intelligent skeptic who doesn't fall for every asshole who caters to you and your beliefs than you should watch timbah on toast's career deep dive on his entire career, all the good and the bad he's done in a balanced and thoughtful way. then you'll fully understand what i mean.
@neuropsychroberts8922
@neuropsychroberts8922 Рік тому
Notice how much time Koppel was given to interview one person on a given topic. TV journalism nowadays is much more formulaic & searching for some sensory driven viewings not uncovering deeper meaning on a topic. When news is profit-driven, we get schlock. Viewers are as responsible as greed journalism for where we are.
@adamseddon2572
@adamseddon2572 Рік тому
Yes I know. Seems an actual genuine and fair interview
@_5_675
@_5_675 Рік тому
No they are not
@mutestingray
@mutestingray Рік тому
The brilliant thing Ted did was to keep him talking. The more he talks, the more insane Dave sounds.
@GrowingUpInScientology
@GrowingUpInScientology Рік тому
💯💯
@matilda4406
@matilda4406 Рік тому
good point. Let them talk
@gailheard1524
@gailheard1524 Рік тому
Dave is a delusional nut.
@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158
@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 9 місяців тому
The bigger the hole..
@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808
@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808 7 місяців тому
​@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158with a huge shovel to dig a hole.
@soultheinterrogator
@soultheinterrogator 4 місяці тому
Dacid Miscaviage reminds me of an 80's movie villian. Lol
@stefanbernhard2710
@stefanbernhard2710 Місяць тому
Evil Tom Cruise
@scottmccaffrey6155
@scottmccaffrey6155 3 місяці тому
“Scientology is so good it doesn’t need a sales pitch”, he says. That is every salesman’s pitch.
@1trumantucker1
@1trumantucker1 8 місяців тому
The ability to say so much without actually saying a thing is a remarkable talent...
@edpoe1108
@edpoe1108 7 місяців тому
Yeah, I've always had a little bit of respect for individuals that are able to to that and remain composed and confident. I don't like them or what they're doing, but it is impressive on some level.
@alainlalonde
@alainlalonde 7 місяців тому
Yeah, Ted really didn't let him finish most points. I was interested, but he kept interrupting and steering it. "Well get back to that in a moment", but he mostly doesn't... weird.. Seems pretty full of himself to be honest.
@thorinbane
@thorinbane 5 місяців тому
J Peterson agrees
@MrMiar94
@MrMiar94 4 місяці тому
@@alainlalondewhat points? 😂😂😂
@qwargy
@qwargy 4 місяці тому
It’s called sophistry I believe
@adamortiz1414
@adamortiz1414 10 місяців тому
Miscavige is frightening. He and Tom Cruise have a similar quietly rumbling, undercurrent of unhinged narcissism just under the surface
@thinktankcritic5267
@thinktankcritic5267 8 місяців тому
And what are you .. ? A psychiatrist? A mind reader or a shaman?
@matshagstrom9839
@matshagstrom9839 7 місяців тому
I think both Tom and
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 6 місяців тому
@@thinktankcritic5267Don’t need to be any of those to see that.
@mannutdutd
@mannutdutd 5 місяців тому
@@thinktankcritic5267people are learning to spot this behaviour, it’s becoming very obvious and transparent… a bit like the reason you’re irritated by it.
@thinktankcritic5267
@thinktankcritic5267 5 місяців тому
Now everything has a label on it! Every nuance of behavior every twitch of the eye or eyebrow can be construed as something devious, pathological and falling under a label category .. labeled ..! ? Crazy world
@michaelhughes743
@michaelhughes743 3 місяці тому
"Why didnt we think of this' - The Mafia
@rockingroby6060
@rockingroby6060 Місяць тому
Ted Koppel is the best in the business. I've been a fan 45 years.
@speakingofcouragepodcast8437
@speakingofcouragepodcast8437 Рік тому
Anyone else notice how eerily similar his communication style is to Tom Cruise? Eye contact, aggressive posture, etc. they definitely train these people
@daakrolb
@daakrolb Рік тому
Good point. CULT-Y.
@aujuliawod
@aujuliawod Рік тому
I thought the same thing! Just like Tom Cruise!
@DamienDrake
@DamienDrake Рік тому
That was one of the most disturbing things about this interview.
@jamesmclennan666
@jamesmclennan666 Рік тому
Spot on
@shellybuttrum8869
@shellybuttrum8869 Рік тому
I can't believe how similar TC and DM mannerisms are.
@joelfernandez536
@joelfernandez536 7 місяців тому
Ted Koppel was an absolute boss here
@CarlPanzram-pt6qu
@CarlPanzram-pt6qu 3 місяці тому
Keep your mouth shut
@ericschneider3092
@ericschneider3092 3 місяці тому
Well, I’m sold…on never joining Scientology. No wonder this is the only interview he’s done
@DavidMichaelCommer
@DavidMichaelCommer 4 місяці тому
I just began watching this and from the beginning, Ted Koppel says that a lot of people were afraid to speak about Scientology. He and his team deserve credit for airing this story and interview, probably especially his team since Ted's high profile may have given him some level of protection from harassment. I am acquainted with someone who worked for NPR decades ago, and she told me that she got some kind of tip that led her to a naive investigation into Scientology. Soon thereafter, she got bizarre anonymous phone calls and I think also a letter with vaguely threatening comments telling her to cease her investigation immediately. She was unnerved and told her producer about it, and her producer told her to stop the investigation immediately, saying that Scientology is a dangerous organization that harasses journalists and has been linked with deaths of people and that it's best to leave it alone. And so she did, and she was very shaken up. After she dropped it, they stopped harassing her. So the organization stayed largely out of the media for a long time at least in part by intimidating journalists, and any journalist who followed through with any investigation really deserves credit. I can't help but be a little bit amused by Miscavige's claim that an organization that calls itself a cult awareness nerwork is a 'religious hate group.' I do wonder how many people who belong to harmful cults hear the term 'cult' used in reference to their groups and take offense.
@VerdadTruth
@VerdadTruth Рік тому
Mr. Koppel gave David the biggest ass whooping without having to move a finger or even get loud. True master of his craft.
@Iamtierrahogan
@Iamtierrahogan 7 місяців тому
The man talks in circles. He answers questions with questions and word salad analogies.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 4 місяці тому
Kamala Harris has studied dave for decades.
@Eyes_dont_Lie
@Eyes_dont_Lie 4 місяці тому
U cant deny he gives irs the finger everyyyyy year though 😂
@Frip36
@Frip36 3 місяці тому
He was actually articulate and coherent. Whether it was all factual I don't know. But he defended his church about as well as the pope could defend his.
@ArtsyTartsy0
@ArtsyTartsy0 3 місяці тому
@Frip36 I absolutely disagree with you! Are we watching the same interview? P.S. And uh....no! It was certainly NOT all factual!!!!
@jmpayne333
@jmpayne333 3 місяці тому
He’d be a great politician.
@user-pt9tw8fn1r
@user-pt9tw8fn1r Місяць тому
The worst thing that could have happened to humanity was the internet. I was born in 1957, am 67, and have been an automation/electronics engineer all my working life, and I think that I know what I'm talking about.
@stanfordhiga2135
@stanfordhiga2135 4 місяці тому
This was a wild interview. Beyond me how this cult is still around
@kiwe3546
@kiwe3546 3 місяці тому
Considering Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are still around after thousands of years, why would it be beyond you that another cult has lasted decades.
@halimasari9615
@halimasari9615 2 місяці тому
​@kiwe3546 those other religion don't rob, abuse and enselave you like scientology tho.
@craig5222
@craig5222 2 місяці тому
@@halimasari9615dedicate 2 years of your life to an American “mega church.” You’ll be unpleasantly surprised
@laurarominger2073
@laurarominger2073 Рік тому
Man I wish there was a Ted Koppel today. He was the best.
@GrowingUpInScientology
@GrowingUpInScientology Рік тому
👍🏻👍🏻
@jackieblue9536
@jackieblue9536 Рік тому
He died???
@cotati76
@cotati76 Рік тому
@@jackieblue9536 he’s still alive but he retired ages ago.
@carissalamkahouan699
@carissalamkahouan699 Рік тому
@@cotati76 actually he did a piece talking with Trump supporters pretty recently
@cotati76
@cotati76 Рік тому
@@carissalamkahouan699 he did? I’ll have to find it and watch it. I haven’t seen him in ages.
@__Patrick
@__Patrick Рік тому
Miscavige seems terrifying. Can you imagine being trapped in a small space with this wild-eyed man-weasel?!
@loyisog4795
@loyisog4795 8 місяців тому
😂😂😂
@kridler112
@kridler112 3 місяці тому
Wish we had more interviewers like this these days
@MugRuith
@MugRuith Рік тому
This guy apparently never heard of childhood asthma. I had asthma as a child, never spoke to a Scientologist or went to their church, and now as an adult I don't have asthma. I guess staying away from Scientology cured me.
@imjoeimjoe
@imjoeimjoe Рік тому
Good for you
@fredthomas4916
@fredthomas4916 Рік тому
Mental illness and Scientology l how are we letting this happen it’s worse-than a concentration camp American technology where are you
@fredthomas4916
@fredthomas4916 Рік тому
Diabetes is not real Iam living with people with mental illness you are a criminal org they all will never forget this guy
@miata350
@miata350 Рік тому
It is truly ironic how a "science-based" religion ignores actual medical science.
@Daydreamer-ok6jj
@Daydreamer-ok6jj Рік тому
😂
@Rykiz_Vidz
@Rykiz_Vidz Рік тому
David Miscavige looks just like almost any super villain CEO from movies or videogames.
@rossl5908
@rossl5908 Рік тому
It's the hair
@ediewall6360
@ediewall6360 Рік тому
LOL
@eduardonava1291
@eduardonava1291 Рік тому
Watchmen comes to mind
@MCO18
@MCO18 9 місяців тому
“You know, I’m something of a Scientologist myself”
@cz2165
@cz2165 4 місяці тому
Miscavige has a sociopathic stare. Scary dude. It is 2023, Where is his wife?
@jessicacarlson9437
@jessicacarlson9437 4 місяці тому
I love the guy out there calling them out all the time, in LA.
@Cwho9ss
@Cwho9ss 3 місяці тому
Streets LA
@jessicacarlson9437
@jessicacarlson9437 3 місяці тому
@@Cwho9ss yeah, I love them!!! It’s so sad to see these videos tbh…. The one guys lip could not have gone down any further if he tried! It was like a baby ready to cry! Weird & wild ish!
@swedishgrrl7287
@swedishgrrl7287 6 місяців тому
31:26 Miscavige is clenching his hands so tightly his knuckles are white while trying to contain his anger. This was probably the first and last time he tolerated someone challenging him without physical lashing out at them. Such a scary little man.
@Frip36
@Frip36 3 місяці тому
He seemed like a composed and articulate executive defending himself and his company with vigor.
@Handle19901
@Handle19901 3 місяці тому
lol he was not clenching his hands
@sosa7k169
@sosa7k169 9 днів тому
@@Frip36You under every comment defending him😂😭
@brandonius78
@brandonius78 7 місяців тому
Damn, I think he missed his calling. He would’ve killed it as a used car salesman! 😂
@robdre1977
@robdre1977 7 місяців тому
Or a sleazy defense attorney
@victorfergn
@victorfergn 7 місяців тому
he's earned way more money by doing this
@brandonius78
@brandonius78 7 місяців тому
@@victorfergn yep yep, I totally get that. It was more of a joke about how ruthless car salesman can be & he’s just unrelenting like them… 👍
@kalebarancelovic
@kalebarancelovic 3 місяці тому
If this guy handed me a glass of water to drink, I wouldn't drink it.
@Compassionate108
@Compassionate108 3 місяці тому
I deeply admire Ted Koppel's skill at staying on point with his interview, despite David's attempts to deflect every single question. After an entire hour, we still know next to nothing about the philosophy / precepts of the Church of Scientology.
@johnsjohnson448
@johnsjohnson448 Рік тому
Mr. Koppel was brutally intelligent and truly terrific.
@alfredeneuman6966
@alfredeneuman6966 Рік тому
Driving in his Mercury arriving at his spaceship, L Ron Hubbard took off for Mars, Starburst, reaching the Milky Way ... he then left the supermarket aisle and took the candy bars home with him and wrote a phantasmagorical story.
@janetmcarthur5257
@janetmcarthur5257 Рік тому
Nice interview. I would have liked to see him interview groups that are infinitely worse than the Church of Scientology, such as the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
@thomkatt3385
@thomkatt3385 Рік тому
and remarkably patient.
@suzanneblaylock9598
@suzanneblaylock9598 Рік тому
And...? Yes ??
@alwayswatching1650
@alwayswatching1650 Рік тому
@@janetmcarthur5257 infinitely worse in what way? Not arguing - genuinely curious.🙂🤔
@lulukazhila6309
@lulukazhila6309 Рік тому
This is such a great reminder of what great journalism used to look like. The time when journalists would challenge their guests whilst wittingly roasting them like this 🤣
@DustinRodriguez1_0
@DustinRodriguez1_0 Рік тому
And also have on a guest that society opposes and detests without getting accused of 'giving them a platform' and inherently supporting them. That scares a lot of interviewers out of being willing to have those sorts of people on to be challenged.
@rebeccaduboise285
@rebeccaduboise285 Рік тому
Good times. Miss um
@paulcolburn3855
@paulcolburn3855 Рік тому
Many (almost all) of journalists who are in the business today got their jobs because #1) they are great looking AND #2) their parents were rich enough that they could afford unpaid internships in the business until they got their first shot. That is it. Looks and money. What journalism does NOT require today (something that Ted Kopel possessed) is intelligence and quick thinking. Ted was able to respond (in turn) to each of David's points. There pretty much isn't a journalist working today that could do that without following a perfectly worded script. They can't think like that because they can't think. In 2002, Katie Couric interviewed Ann Coulter. All Katie could do is ask gotcha questions from a script and when Ann responded (in turn) Katie would dismiss all of Ann's rebuttals with the comment "well I am conducting the interview and I will ask the questions." Katie could never match wits with Ann Coulter (that could never happen) BUT she got her position in the media because of her looks and connections. She can't do any investigative anything, but she made the big bucks. Journalists and reporters, they do not want to be challenged on their own shows. To be challenged might expose the fact either A) they don't know anything or B) they can't think or possibly C) they don't know anything AND they can't think. Those are not pre-requisites' for an industry where the people working in it are focused on looks and money.
@billplaney2585
@billplaney2585 Рік тому
The journalists who can do this still exist. They just don't have the platforms they once had because media companies have been allowed to conglomerate to ridiculous levels. Serious journalism is not what advertisers want to sponsor. End of story.
@clarecatherine1488
@clarecatherine1488 Рік тому
@@billplaney2585 Precisely put.
@jlassonful
@jlassonful 4 місяці тому
the way they smile at each other shows that they both know what it is
@t.h.337
@t.h.337 2 місяці тому
If you watch this interview and then compare it to the 60-minute Australian interview Tom Cruise gave, it's uncanny and creepy how similar Miscavige and Cruise seem. But what is really scary to me is the stark difference in the way the interviewer handles Miscavige's aggressiveness (and the nonsense in general). The Australian guy apologizes to Cruise, but Ted Koeppels never backs down. I'm not criticizing the Australian guy. He was good too, but I do wish journalism like this was more mainstream now. Koeppels never loses his cool.
@alexkasper5029
@alexkasper5029 Рік тому
oh man, ted koppel DESTROYED him with such a calm rational demeanor that just highlighted the mounting defensive paranoia david miscavige was completely unable to hide. i would LOVE for the behavior panel to analyze this interview! they always appreciate an interviewer who is calm, unshakable, and relentless with hard questions. fantastic!
@thescarletgraywitch8052
@thescarletgraywitch8052 Рік тому
What is the behavior panel? What am I missing!? As someone with a Master's in behavioral psych that sounds right up my alley.
@alison2649
@alison2649 Рік тому
And I appreciate that Mr Koopel did his homework before this interview
@kmartens8872
@kmartens8872 Рік тому
@@thescarletgraywitch8052 it’s a you tube channel with 4 body language experts. They analyze different peoples interviews and reactions. It is really good! I highly recommend! Channel is called The Behaviour Panel
@alexkasper5029
@alexkasper5029 Рік тому
@@thescarletgraywitch8052 ooooh they are a great youtube channel! their channel is The Behavior Panel and they are 4 behavior experts who do work for police interrogations and other areas of behavior analysis! they look at body language and statement analysis mostly and it is fascinating! I highly recommend! :)
@alexkasper5029
@alexkasper5029 Рік тому
@@alison2649 seriously! he read the books and everything!
@christid.8912
@christid.8912 Рік тому
I love how he sings the praises of "communication improvement" in Scientology, then proceeds to be one of the worst communicators I have ever witnessed.
@ghostpuppolter3207
@ghostpuppolter3207 2 місяці тому
I like how David was talking about how upset he was that a guy wanted scientologists to get kidnapped and he believes that would be an awful thing to do to a person, to hold them against their will for religious reasons. Where is Shelly, David?
@rangerguy196
@rangerguy196 3 місяці тому
He loves using the phrase, “You have to understand”.
@alyxcoe2608
@alyxcoe2608 Місяць тому
A revealing phrase. Prince Andrew used it several times in his disastrous interview. It betrays a feeling on the part of the speaker that they have authority over you and don't want you to think outside the box, and you MUST see things their way.
@RyanAustinDean
@RyanAustinDean Рік тому
This is how the media should confront ALL corrupt authorities, whether political, corporate, academic, or religious - right, left, and center.
@JohnSmith-yd5wq
@JohnSmith-yd5wq Рік тому
Well facts don't matter to many. People like to be pandered and lied too.
@cjdayne3033
@cjdayne3033 Рік тому
They absolutely do it to the right, if they would do it to the left with the same energy this country would be in a much better place
@davidhull2426
@davidhull2426 Рік тому
Breed? Avarice / feudalism....
@barbarakauppi9915
@barbarakauppi9915 Рік тому
That's supposed to be their very function, their only "raison d'etre", the very key to sustainable democracy, truth, and freedom everywhere. They've all completely sold out now, petty traitors to their own realm.
@isitoveryet9525
@isitoveryet9525 Рік тому
@@cjdayne3033 they only do it to someone on the left, if that person dares to go against the narrative….
@daveowens271
@daveowens271 Рік тому
Ted Koppel totally owned Miscavige. This is what happens when the guy who is USED to being the smartest guy in the room, actually has a discussion with THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM!
@Girlhead
@Girlhead Рік тому
He did!! I love it when David said Scientology had been voted the Community Outreach Group of the Year and Ted doesn't miss a beat.. "By Whom?"
@StarCityAudits
@StarCityAudits Рік тому
No, he did not.
@Girlhead
@Girlhead Рік тому
@@StarCityAudits Hey- how's the Sea Org these days David?
@joeyholly5259
@joeyholly5259 Рік тому
Correction: the guy who THINKS he's the smartest guy in the room, because he will only allow rooms to be filled with sycophants. This interview was amazing and Ted Koppel is my new hero :)
@Syv_
@Syv_ Рік тому
@@StarCityAudits Found the scientologist!
@stockbridge8
@stockbridge8 3 місяці тому
Ugh. That pointing finger! And that RELENTLESS voice. Ted Koppel incredible.
@jeannafields4483
@jeannafields4483 4 місяці тому
We are still waiting to find his wife who has been "missing" for a decade😮
@allisonod8575
@allisonod8575 Рік тому
ted Koppel correcting Davey boy everytime he calls a grown woman a girl is the energy I want to bring to every work meeting
@charleschristianson2730
@charleschristianson2730 Рік тому
What's wrong with that?
@taratee
@taratee Рік тому
@@charleschristianson2730 Pretty easy. Calling grown women girls (suggesting she's a child still) is just plain disrespectful
@Rick_Cleland
@Rick_Cleland Рік тому
In Northern Ireland we call men and women "Guys" and "Girls" all the time, regardless of age.
@charleschristianson2730
@charleschristianson2730 Рік тому
@@taratee No, a girl becomes a woman when her looks fade, usually around age 30. Calling someone a "girl" is a compliment; it implies that she's still young enough to be attractive.
@taratee
@taratee Рік тому
@@charleschristianson2730 lol okay 👍 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@mmmcoffeetogo
@mmmcoffeetogo Рік тому
I love how David Miscavige struggles through the first question by rambling about how Scientology has made breakthroughs in communication. 😂 The irony is not lost on me.
@toddmastrianna1780
@toddmastrianna1780 Рік тому
This tool communicates less effectively than a street urchin in Atlantic City
@wages7992
@wages7992 4 місяці тому
Ted Koppel, wow, when journalist went after the real stories & delivered to the people.
@MatthewMorgan25
@MatthewMorgan25 5 місяців тому
Someone in politics is protecting this trash. If this were anyone else we would be seeing a sheriffs briefing on all the arrest they made and the charges.
@mitersangeeta2576
@mitersangeeta2576 Рік тому
No wonder that was David’s only interview!!! Dude was owned by the legend himself, cool 😎 Ted Koppel!!
@alison2649
@alison2649 Рік тому
Ted really did his homework! Most interviewers don’t
@paulcolburn3855
@paulcolburn3855 Рік тому
David was not prepared to deal with an interviewer so intelligent and knowledgeable of his "church." Ted did his homework AND he was rational and lucid. At the very beginning, Ted saying that he was quite happy with his life, his family, his job, what could the church POSSIBLY have to offer him, and David never really had a concrete answer for him. I have my own issues with psychology and psychiatrists in general. But I am not going to throw them all under the bus because psychology was used as a tool to convince German people the good that could be achieved with the Holocaust.
@CoolGobyFish
@CoolGobyFish Рік тому
@@paulcolburn3855 he told him that scientology would make him more productive. it's pretty good answer. but generally, it's pointless trying to get a real answer from a psychopath
@paulcolburn3855
@paulcolburn3855 Рік тому
@@CoolGobyFish yeah I got that part "more productive." But that is an entirely "subjective" answer on what was entirely "objective" reporting. It doesn't really mean anything. I am sure that is the same answer you would get from John Travolta and Tom Cruise, more "productive."
@CoolGobyFish
@CoolGobyFish Рік тому
@@paulcolburn3855 well. productivity can be measured. so it's an objective answer. not that I support this cult leader, but he has a pretty good answer for everything (as most psychopath in power)
@satevo462
@satevo462 6 місяців тому
The last minute. "Why is Scientology a religion?" "Because religion is tax exempt"
@amberzinser6344
@amberzinser6344 Місяць тому
No mention of god at all. Wth?
@tcb6857
@tcb6857 Місяць тому
I always wondered why anyone cares if an organization is tax exempt? Who cares. Doesn't effect me one bit.
@TizerisT.
@TizerisT. Місяць тому
@@tcb6857 Well in Scientology's case, you're giving a cruel organisation an easy ride
@Frenchylikeshikes
@Frenchylikeshikes 5 місяців тому
I think ever since that doc was released, way more defectors have been speaking out and revealing what scientology really is. This is a cult, not a religion.
@27neverlose
@27neverlose 4 місяці тому
After watching this interview, I have figured out the biggest secret of Scientology. David Miscavige's and Tom Cruise are one of the same, because they are the same people. If you look and listen, they both have crazy eye's and talk in circles. Miscavige is a character that Tom came up with.
@ModernSunlight
@ModernSunlight 11 місяців тому
Miscavige did a great job of displaying the need for quality mental health....wow.
@Th3Downz
@Th3Downz 10 місяців тому
Don't give this little goblin any credit. Any humanity he shows is just an act. He doesn't give a shit about you or anyone else... he wouldn't run a cult that strips people of their money promising answers otherwise
@loyisog4795
@loyisog4795 8 місяців тому
Excuse me??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Amy.PCB.home.
@Amy.PCB.home. 7 місяців тому
Why do they call themselves a church when they don't believe in God. It's a successful cult which is scary. I worked for a bookstore years ago and remember LRon Hubbards's bks in the science fiction section. It is a testimony to the ignorance of many people that a scifi writer would become a rich cult leader.
@genevabecker8441
@genevabecker8441 7 місяців тому
LOL
@genevabecker8441
@genevabecker8441 7 місяців тому
@@Amy.PCB.home. They call themselves a church so they won't have to pay taxes...
@Oturtlegirl51
@Oturtlegirl51 Рік тому
Mr. Koppel teaches a master class on interviewing here. Perfection.
@johnwattdotca
@johnwattdotca Рік тому
If you want to be a Washington bully on television and tell the American people what to think, this is a major American media master class. Ted has bags under bags under his eyes, and that wig!
@sinatra222
@sinatra222 Рік тому
@@johnwattdotca found the Scientologist 🤣
@johnwattdotca
@johnwattdotca Рік тому
@@sinatra222 I see you don't like to think at all. Anything else totally stupid to say?
@namename4012
@namename4012 Рік тому
@@johnwattdotca Koppel called out a bully, which Miscavige clearly was then, and still is now. And Koppel was masterful in not letting that little dictator pull any crap. BTW: This episode won an Emmy award.
@johnwattdotca
@johnwattdotca Рік тому
@@namename4012 I'm not surprised the episode won an Emmy, intended to validate the content. You are still wrong, and for someone who can type as an intelligent person I'm surprised you want to keep spouting off lies. Koppel was over-bearing and directive, asking questions but cutting off answers. Miscavige was explanatory, probably too much for the average American, while he was calm and always reasonable. I stress, and you should understand, Scientology isn't a religion or a cult. It's about Science, and yes, it's expensive. What is the life problem you have that makes you such a hater?
@GamesCooky
@GamesCooky 2 місяці тому
Man, this guy really wants to sell me this car.
@jjbeersydney
@jjbeersydney 17 днів тому
For a guy who says “let me tell you” an unbearable number of times, he tells us curiously little … 🙄
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 10 місяців тому
Look at his eyes. You rarely see insanity in such a passive and lucid manner. Yet you can tell it’s lurking in there. Ready to flare into terrible clarity, when that spirit gets tired of riding it’s beast of burden at a trot.
@Amalekites
@Amalekites 7 місяців тому
Its* beast..
@Venus_846
@Venus_846 5 місяців тому
Beautifully said
@KCS-01
@KCS-01 5 місяців тому
Someone passed their English lit with flying colours huh hahah
@Johnny_Thunder
@Johnny_Thunder 4 місяці тому
He is somewhat charming and affable but there is something sinister lurking there
@ediemarie13
@ediemarie13 Рік тому
I had never had the pleasure of seeing this interview before, and I now have a much deeper respect for the journalism integrity of Mr. Koppel. His cool, calm demeanor is a stark contrast with Miscavige's flustered answers.
@le_th_
@le_th_ Рік тому
This was once the norm and, since I was a child raised during the time when this level of journalism was the norm, I had forgotten how important (and frankly, impressive) it was to strengthen the fabric of society.
@theloanranger2632
@theloanranger2632 Рік тому
Koppelv and this show do not have integrity. They were going to run the hit pieces after interviewing Miscaviage but Miscaviage demanded they play first so he can respond. This show was sued for running a story about a defect causing cars to explode when the show actually rigged cars with fireworks and intentionally made them explode
@johnwattdotca
@johnwattdotca Рік тому
Edie Marie Young: I will take your comment at face value. Look at Ted Koppel, a media talking head. He's got bags under bags under his eyes, and look at that wig. He doesn't look like a happy camper. The other man looks healthy and talks quickly. That's the problem you have with him, he talks fast. You must be one of those Americans who has problems reading and blames the words.
@johnwattdotca
@johnwattdotca Рік тому
@@le_th_ Are you talking about the good old days of the Kennedy assassination, the magic bullet, and everything else as cover-ups? It took a civilian with a camera who found his family movie a year later, the Zapruder film, that changed their "history" and "analytic reporting".
@kathyrule2580
@kathyrule2580 Рік тому
@@johnwattdotca was s
@danielgloverpiano7693
@danielgloverpiano7693 11 днів тому
I used to watch Nightline every night. Now I remember why. Ted Koppel is the best of the best. We need that level of journalism again. He cuts through the BS and gets to the point. This interview just reminds me why all cults are the same. The deeper you dig, the more crazy it is. If people knew from the outset the crazy train they were jumping on, I’m sure they’d jump off immediately. 😮😮😮😮
@michaelkepesky5635
@michaelkepesky5635 3 дні тому
the eyes don't lie!! His eyes are filled with Contempt and Rage!!
@GetOutsideYourself
@GetOutsideYourself Рік тому
Koppel's Emmy came as a result of his incredible ability to keep calm in the face of this madman's insane ramblings.
@SUNSHINE-t-m
@SUNSHINE-t-m Рік тому
and legend says Miscavige got a replica because he claims Ted only got it because of how good a job he did explaining himself. lmao
@sandralybrand9425
@sandralybrand9425 9 місяців тому
Well deserved too!
@davidfrey5654
@davidfrey5654 9 місяців тому
Because he wasn't the one getting attacked. When you're not getting attacked, it's not hard to stay calm.
@thinktankcritic5267
@thinktankcritic5267 8 місяців тому
What ramblings you gaslighter? I heard a very coherent man defend his beliefs - whatever they are, regardless of u agreeing or not. Have you even heard a real rambler? Calling an eloquent speaker a madman just shows how inept you are
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