"That's the second person to tell me I have 10 minutes left.....that means I have 20 minutes!" I hope one day I can be that quick-witted while standing in front of a large audience.

14:25 The statement he makes is very true. Happened to me when I was 16. Was in a car accident that was clearly not my fault. Police report said it was not my fault. All fault placed on the other party. They hired a lawyer who harassed my family and I for a year saying they were going to sue us, that we had done wrong, that there was legal precedent we should give them money. Don't fall for this or take it to heart.

You owe me 2 trillion dollars. Or, pay me $25, right now, and we even.

What's funny is the "The Federal Zone" guy is quoting federal law which according to his book does not apply to areas outside of "federal" territories.

"Vexatious litigant" = you've abused the legal system, and thus are barred from filing any further civil actions without a prior okay from a judge.

UKposts why NOW. I NEED TO KNOW. WHY NOW MUST I WATCH THIS

This whole setup is reminiscent of the current abuse of UKposts's copyright claim system

this guy is fucking entertaining, i love him

If you google the guy's name, the stories are insane, he's like the legal world's equivalent of Chris-chan

I don't know how I landed on this video, but I really like this guy.

"Now its huge, I provide close to a Terabyte of data" ....man we have come a long way

26:46 Över a period of serveral months, time permitting, Plaintiff surveyed THE ENTIRE INTERNET" that shit made me bust out laughing, this guys that sued you is a complete nut case.

The website is still up!

Autoplay in 2019 did me a confuse when the guy said “it’s 2009 and I have to ask”.

He has a good point. Even in the UK this type of thing happens. I got a claim from a debt collection agency about a lot of money that they reckoned I owed. I found out that this was normal for these people and asked them to justify their request. They never contacted me again.

This might be one of the best titles to a video on UKposts I have ever seen. And this guy presents it really well. This could have been a TED Talk. Hell, this could be a book. I love the idea that the guy looked at "The entire internet". Yeah, I'm pretty sure even in the later 90's-early 00's that would be a tall order.

I do believe the the "Legal Mail" stamp referenced means that it is from a prison. When my brother send out legal mail from prison it has the same stamp on it so the mail room doesn't open it and read it. Just my thoughts being that the guy also had his bank account seized for failure to pay taxes.

What get's put on the internet stays on the internet.

I found Jason Scott really interesting to listen to and I love stories like this. I am off to find any other videos by him.

That guy was arrested and thrown in jail for like 11 months and he wrote letters like the ones shown in the video daily and mailed them countless judges. They eventually released him just to shut him up. Lol

I have no idea why this popped up on my feed but I'm very happy I spent all 32 minutes watching it

Probably one of the funniest yet most informative things I've listened too for months now. Kudos to you sir for being entertaining and educational.

The advice to talk to people, to get others views, are so utterly critical! You need to consult friends and other people! You really do! I got sued by a scumbag on fabricated charges, I did not have supporting people around my, and that was tough. You have trouble defending yourself, alone. Wisdom: stand against bullies by having people with and around you, seek help and others will help. The collection of old stuff is history, and that is important and should never be allowed to be stopped due to "copyright" or other claims. Keep up the good work!

you archived years worth of 4chan? intense. i need that.

Hope everyone realizes that this is still relevant today and that this can happen to them for various legal reasons.

Wait, he's a sovereign citizen who believes that federal law only applies in DC & on military bases & tried to use federal laws to sue you?

Well this is just a reminder that I'm gonna hate my 15 year old fucked up self when I'm 40

I keep getting spam email from some company saying I have unpaid toll fines. I've never been across a toll bridge or road in my life! I've even received several online summons' to appear in federal court to answer said "charges". I've never showed up and no one has officially contacted me regarding this, so I'll keep ignoring. So far, they claim I owe over $100 grand! I owe over $100 grand for crossing toll-roads I never crossed. Sounds a little bat-shit crazy to me.

Should have played him at his own game. Wrote "Accepted for Value" on it and sent it back to him.

"It was 1997, a slightly different feel to the Internet" that made me laugh it was more like another world in a galaxy far, far away. Great video, marvelous story.

I will be watching every single minute of Jason Scott content I can find after finding his incredible DefCon talks.

HOLY SHIT! This Guy Was Behind TextFiles? That Was Literally My Staple Of Websites As A Kid! Back On Dialup Sonnnn! Love It. Checked It Out About A Month Ago And Relived It. Can’t Believe It. Love It. Thank You For Making That Much Information Readily Available To Those Seeking Knowledge, Thank You My Friend!

That's some world-class crazy right there.

I'm not a DEFCON person but this guy is a good speaker and entertaining.

This is such a great story that I rewatch this video every few months.

Jesus Christ....so this is Jason. OMG I was always wondering how he's like back in the 90's!!! Amazing guy and thanks for your great "warez" back in the ol'skool days!!! :D

This was a farked up scam attempt. Everyone, please don't give a penny to these scammers who use fear to steal from innocent people, their hard-earned money that we spent our precious time earning. It just encourages them. Maybe a little extreme, but it would be better to burn your money, then give it to these thieves. I'm glad Jason got the support and help needed to stand up to this insanity. Wish I could help.

This was better than some standup specials I've seen. What a journey

Objectively one of the most fascinating, informative, and hilarious talks I have seen. Ever. EVER!!!

This must be the 3rd or 4th time I watch this whole thing... Worth it every time!

So....you can get sued for fan fiction? Wasn't 50 shades a fanfic of twilight?

Why this was recommended to me I'll never know, but I have to watch more of this guy

Thank you UKposts for recommending this absolute fucking legendary tale a merely 8 fucking years too late, granted that i only got internet in 2017 but that still means 2 whole years of everyday UKposts usage where you could have recommended it to me, i wonder what other amazing stuff i still havent been recommended

Really, REALLY good talk. It is TRUE. Bullies (legal ones abusing the law itself) WILL do all they can to scare you, to break until you give up and pay. Awesome presentation.

In many countries, the Freedom of Information act is misused by these sorts of people to extract money when documents are not delivered on time (which is tough when thousands of documents are requested)

Such a good talk. I love it when smart people have something interesting to say and are good at saying it

A classic i keep coming back to each and every-time love it.

This made my day! Thanks for the laughs/information, Jason. And thanks for the upload, Christiaan008!

Thank you! It was very informative, entertaining, and a good eye-open, especially for osmeone in my age and personality :P I wonder HOW MANY hours you spent reading and studying things from this lunatic, you clearly did your research, where other people may had slipped over. I wonder how you got your help on a case like this one

The paul andrew mitchell website is now a landscaping website which is very random! lol

Thanks for showing me where all those awesome old BBS text files went. Your'e awesome!

So he basically was the first cloud service provider :)

at first it felt like some advertising for his site, but after about 5 minutes of watching I couldn't stop laughing. Great talk and great site. I found a few goodies I thought lost to the void.

We're citing a federal law for copyright violation of a book that says federal laws are illegitimate! "Dear Mister Moonbat, the law you are attempting to enforce is not actually valid, you can read all about it in this book "The Federal Zone", written by "Paul Andrew Mitchel"

I purposely chose not to watch this DefCon talk because it sounded like clickbait, watched a playlist and happened to listen for a while until I noticed what video it was. I'm so damn glad I watched it, holy cow, so interesting and hilarious!

Textfiles.com taught me about early hack/phreak culture and seriously steered the course of my life. For that I am ever thankful.

>I have 10 million 4chan threads The easiest possession of child pornography conviction the Feds will ever get

Great speech! Great advice to share that with your friends, because that sure is scary, many people might settle because of the scare!

I stumbled across this not knowing what it is at all but for some reason kept listening to all of it....and was entertained.

Love it, stumbled on it today and couldn't stop watching...no I'm not paying you 25$

Anyone else get this in their recommended in 2019? Edit: over 100 likes!!! My life has been fulfilled thank you so much everybody!

Apparently, according to his website/resume, Mitchell is planning on upping his patent trolling game in the near future: Present Inventor and Provisional U.S. Patent Holder: high-speed solid-state data storage technologies

Those shovelware guys might have been profiteers, but I have to admit their shonky, leeching work was much appreciated amongst the large population of us in the early-mid 90s who had computers with CDROM drives and nearby stores with budget/shareware software racks, but no modem or other BBS/network access. Got a lot of useful or at least interesting software and somewhat diverting games out of them. However, you're welcome to your opinion, and I'm about as thankful for your own service with Textfiles as that's a site I've also got many hours of use out of. It's an exceptional piece of work and the time you put into it is appreciated.

7:10 - Shout out to the level of enthusiasm on the guy who shouted out "incredibles 2"

that was awesome and so helpful and encouraging. for the little guy doing cool things this can be a very real situation in my experience.

10 + 10 = 20. I love this guy XD

Amazingly enjoyable to watch. Gotta go to textfiles for some nostalgia...

I am so happy that the presenter uploaded all of moonbat's rantings and ravings to it's own site.... that is amazing!

The video has been viewed over 833 thousand times. He should really sue you for another couple billion dollars. Including 7% interest of course :D

I fucking love how this guy explains things XD

Was happy to see that the site he mentions at the end is still online in all its HTTP glory

This is the first recommended video by youtube that I actually love.

This is fuckin gold

I just have to wonder if this video will eventually end up on his site.

I feel like nobody thanks christiaan for the amount of defcon content he uploads, kudos to you!

This is all of the awesomes all in one awesome. In the mid-90s this flavor of crazy was just getting organized. In 1999, someone produced a great resource called "Idiot Legal Arguments" -- the person's name is B. Susskind. I mention that because there are mirror copies of it floating around the internet that would still be up even when the original or an official mirror is not available. Despite the snarky name, it is/was actually a very valuable resource for attorneys representing people like you back in those days. It contains an exhaustive list of just about every crazy nutjob almost-sounds-plausible-if-you-huff-paint legal theory that has been presented in court, PLUS actual researchable case citations, plus brief summaries of the holdings. It is a soup-to-nuts encyclopedia of everything from "If the courtroom has a flag with a gold fringe, that means it only respects Maritime law and is not a proper US court of law" to "because Ohio was not actually state when the 16th Amendment was ratified in the late 19th Century..." followed by either "the Income Tax is unconstitutional" or "President Taft, who fraudulently claimed to have been a natural born US citizen (because he was born in Ohio) was not lawfully the US President when he signed the act that established the Income Tax" And both of those claims are sorta almost true, if you're a kook. There are also a variety of claims similar to those you describe as being in the Federal Zone -- all of which had been shot down by US courts probably long before any of your issues started. Many of these arguments are so radioactive in courtrooms that even mentioning the theory -- like mentioning the gold fringed flag in the courtroom -- will get you sanctioned by the judge for making frivolous claims. Interestingly, it's not going to be possible for any litigant to be deemed "vexatious" by a court on the basis of a single kooktabulous lawsuit. It takes several. And they have to be actually "frivolous" (not just "retarded", but "having no basis in law or fact", which is a specific legal standard. I can sue you because your hat is an eyesore and caused me medical expenses, and that might not be a frivolous suit -- there's a format for making out "He did a thing he shoulnta did, and it caused me to get up in my hurts" that essentially lays out the "basis in law and fact" of the claim. It won't *win*, because no jury is going to impose on you a duty to wonder who might be freaked out by the color of your hat. But it's not frivolous. Frivolous is like using the private attorney general dodge (shot down in flames multiple times over the last many decades) as a means of claiming a right to sue law infringers on behalf of The People -- but in a situation where there is no actual statutory basis for that kind of lawsuit. Private AGs come up legitimately when a state government creates a public cause of action (giving the government a right to sue) but makes clear that it's not going to be done by the State AG's office. An example is a California law establishing $500 damages for selling a used mattress that does not bear a yellow product tag. There's no defense to the claim: You sold it without the tag or you didn't. If it didn't have the tag, the purchaser has the right to sue you for $500 on behalf of the people of the state of California. As you can imagine, there are people who aren't attorneys who cruise flea markets and garage sales looking for mattresses for sale. A similar situation allows a handicapped person who is unfairly burdened by a public accommodation (restaurant, hotel, bar) that doesn't have access ramps for wheelchairs. There, the statutory damage award is something like $2500 to $5000. And there are people in California who make a living looking for restaurants to sue. They have to actually go to the restaurant and attempt to get service, and lots of these attempts fail because the restaurant will have some grandfathered-in exception based on the age of the building, or will have some marginally-satisfactory accommodation that still sucks ass but is just enough to defeat the claim by the "Private AG". (In part the confusion is jsut that "attorney" means "someone with a legal right to take legal action on someone else's behalf". A person acting under a power-of-attorney executed by a now-invalid family member can be referred to as an "attorney-in-fact" -- because of the piece of paper that grants them that power. I, on the other hand, am an "attorney-at-law" because there is a court order by the California State Supreme Court that has granted me this status -- and the CA State Bar Association that presented me to the Supreme Court (All on paper, I didn't do my swearing in at the CA SC. I had a friend of mine who is a criminal prosecutor swear me in after about our fifth or sixth beer commemorating the occasion. It counts just the same though.) I am licensed to practice in California as a matter of law. It's only by strange set of occurrences that I'm actually doing tech support for a very nerdy company that pays me a fair bit more than an entry-level lawyer would make in Calif.)

LOL, very smart man and very entertaining to watch. Glad he did something with his life and it was successful.

LOL, the BArdex Superhero looks like a slam-dunk win for infringement of Pixar's Mr. Incredible image.

I saw this a good while ago but I'm rewatching it now because it's amazing

Oh man. I've just discovered all these videos up from this Defcon thing. This is the funniest guy so far! Watched the documentary last night too. So good.

26:32 banach tarski lawsuit

Nothing is forgotten. The Internet is eternal

Thanks for a fun and interesting talk! You are doing a great job. Keep it up! :)

1:00 "It's 2009, just a show of hands who knows what a computer bulletin board is?" Wow. haha

I learned a new word... "Moonbat"

i know that textfiles site, i once stumbled upon it. pretty cool.

So happy to see the USENIX "computing systems" get scanned.

7:11 "Bardex man!!" absolutely lost it rofl

This loon later went on to become the head of the RIAA. (not really.)

I was interested in the guy who wrote the book so I looked it up. In his words, he litigated in People v Boxer, which I could find from another source, was decided in 1902. Yeah... this is why you should check sources, because it looks real, but it's faker than plastic fruit.

Honestly, despite his bombastic attitude when presenting, well - anything... Jason is actually a really down-to-earth, kind-hearted guy. I had the incredible opportunity to go have dinner with him at this one bar in Stockholm some years back when he was in town to give a talk, and it was honestly one of the most moving evenings of my life. For the record, and I give him no end of credit for this, dude doesn't drink; I had my fair share of beers, while he was happily pulling on a Coca-Cola, just expounding on story after story. Amazing dude.

This was quite entertaining and helpful, thank you Mr. Scott.

I wonder if he sued UKposts.

he went to prison a couple years ago for this crap

Jason Scott is fucking awesome. His blogpost “Freedom, Justice and a Disturbingly Gaping Ass” should be a mandatory read for anyone on the Internet.

Yay! I'm not the only one who wants to collect and share all dara/media/knowledge

Oddly enough I want to check out the crazy guy's book

30 mins I don't regret watching :)

Wow, this was quite informative! Not to say I've been served or had any worries of being so, but this really paints the picture of what I had already known; this country has seriously degenerated into mushy, puddy-like figures who cry at the first sign of danger or mistreatment, who become petrified at the slightest confrontation, and cause other more strongly willed people to lose their cool!

Funnily enough I've run up against the milder, more subtle form of this kind of crazy before in my career and, whilst it wasn't anything quite as mad as demanding $2bn, I can certainly vouch for the advice being genuine - talk it over with other people and seek qualified help if it starts getting bad (they can only tell you to go away after all). In my case having a union to help out on the professional side, and grounded friends and family to act as a sounding board and check that I wasn't actually the one going mad was a great help.