Video Chapters : 1:07 Early Alien Covenant Script - Shaw is Alive 4:16 Prologue Script Shaw Death 8:40 Blu Ray Deleted Scene Shaw Death

Shaw was the best thing about Prometheus and I still can't believe they decided killing her off-screen like an idiot was a good idea.

It kind of crushes me that literally every bit of unused stuff from this project I hear about sounds better than everything that ended up being used in the actual final product.

There is nothing more dangerous and hostile to a film than the very studio that produces it.

Here's a more messed up and very dark theory of mine. David is so efficient, as we know, he snapped her neck so correctly that she didn't die but actually all the way paralyzed from the neck down. With her still alive he could do all sorts of experiments on her living body.

Damn they killed the exact movie we all wanted.

Shaw was an incredible character and a spiritual successor to Ripley who could have taken the franchise in a new direction. To be killed off camera is as bad if not worse than killing Newt in Alien 3.

I remember being so hyped at the end of Prometheus. Shaw and David heading to the Engineer homeworld - AWESOME! Instead, Ridley Scott bumped his head and gave us Covenant.

This story about Shaw and David could have made one of the most amazing sci-fi body horror movies. Seems like it could have truly realized some of the potential of the Alien universe.

It's unfortunate that Ridley Scott has a strong dislike for Prometheus. He has no intention of creating any more movies in this series, despite the potential for an entire film centered around Shaw and David, as you mentioned. It's a missed opportunity because I would have loved to see the storyline delve deeper. That's my personal viewpoint. I genuinely appreciate your dedication to this topic, and your continuous content on this movie, truly satisfies my passion for this.

I know it's "just a movie..." but I never recovered from David's pictures of Shaw. They made me feel like someone I loved was tortured by a maniac that had the gall to send me the photos. I felt like I lost a family member and, honestly, I felt grief. She was lost to the void of space compared to the things we take for granted. She had nothing left and she was robbed of answers for all of the effort to end up where she did. She's only human and she was so lonely, that a facsimile of a man appeared to manipulate her into reconstituting him. I died inside a little and my grief felt wasted by the decisions made by the "studio." I don't think I'll ever get my closure, but this channel has helped me get close. Thank you.

The really cold disturbing side of David is that he could perfectly emulate a relationship, one that would leave anyone to blindly trust him till after he kills the person. But he can't keep himself from hinting his iminent betrayal. He needs you to know, shortly before the end, that he meant to betray all along. He doesn't have to do it, he could pretend all along, but that's how he demonstrates his exercise of free will.

Shaw deserved a better ending to her story, after all the bravery and strength we saw in Prometheus. The fact that she died is not as upsetting as the fact that we can only assume she died a slow, painful, degrading death (assuming the deleted scene version is canon) that contributed to a cause she would not have wanted to support.

The biggest disappointment with Covenant is the absence of Shaw. It is clear that in the behind the scenes of Prometheus, Ridley wanted these movies to focus on David and Shaw. But the sequel came out too many years later. I imagine that, in that time, either Ridley, but more likely the studio, lost interest in Shaw's character. Covenant has many interesting concepts, but its pacing is too fast and its new characters are underdeveloped (unless you see the supplementary, extra videos, which shouldn't complete the movie). Prometheus isn't a masterpiece, but it grew on me with multiple viewings. Covenant isn't in the same league.

1:00 David says "a rotting paradise". Rotting. I think this gets overlooked. It wasn't a paradise, it was a corruption of paradise. The engineers in Prometheus were very 'perfect' looking. Beautiful strong bodies, perfect faces like the statue of David in the first scene of the movie. The people on that planet were same species but had contorted imperfect faces and bodies. I always go back to the original reaction to the analysis of the alien species by the android in the original movie: "Perfect Organism". My take on the Engineers is that they are a death cult obsessed with perfection (A "Life cult" from the engineer's point of view). First they sought perfection through genetic engineering making their bodies and faces 'perfect'. But then when everyone is perfect no one is perfect. So that goal got perverted when they discovered the 'perfect' alien organism. What makes it perfect? The black goo is the essence of life. The essence of life is reproduction. That's what makes it perfect. It can reproduce with ANY other life form and produce superior offspring. I don't believe that the engineers 'created' the life on earth and then wanted to destroy it. Life grew on it's own. Other visitors came and gave mankind the warning about the 'engineers'. It wasn't 'proof', it was a warning, as established in the movie. Shaw's and Waylan's original assumptions were wrong. The reason they seek out planets and release the perfect organism is because that is the death cult's mission, to spread perfection, to become perfection. That's why the ritual is an engineer combining with the perfect organism to trigger the run-away reproduction that replaces the dominate life forms on the planets they visit. No where in the first scene of Prometheus does it say or indicate that ritual was on earth. That assumption is wrong. That scene isn't creation, it's the corruption of creation by the release of 'perfection'. The androids seem to always get sucked into the cult for the same reason; they idealize perfection, they idealize reproduction, the one trait of life that they do not innately have or are allowed. The androids and engineers have a "Prometheus" complex. Prometheus was punished for bringing fire to mankind, he didn't create mankind. The engineers and androids bring 'perfection' to mankind. They didn't create mankind. They seek to change (destroy) mankind with some forbidden knowledge. That 'knowledge' is the black goo, the substance that creates the 'alien'. The substance that creates true perfection, creates true paradise.

I recommend the book with David's drawings to every Alien fan. Sure, the movie had it's flaws, but the production design was absolutely flawless and I would have loved to explore Davids laboratory way deeper. The book resolves this, by showing everything the team had designed and was only for seconds on screen.

what I liked about Prometheus was how it was Aliens without being Aliens. I was hoping they could keep going in that direction going forward but felt like they gave up because it would be easier for them to jump into an established franchise than try and build upon a new one.

She was too good of a character to end this way. :(

Wow ridley is totaly out of his mind for deleting this content would make a better ending. Prometheus has just right amount of mystery but covenant had too much missing pieces. Thank you for your work and channel!

The fan edit Paradise is seriously brilliant! Recut to focus almost solely on David. It changes both movies into a story about “What if Frankenstein’s monster tried to become Dr. Frankenstein?” And that version is one of the best sci-fi horror movies ever.

I like the version where Shaw dies naturally because of infection, and David tried to remake her. He destroys the engineers because he wants to protect humans and avenge shaw.

David is a prime example of how dangerous it is to let a.i. gain control. No remorse, no compassion, no pity, no mercy, all behind a smokescreen of logic, curiosity and a god complex. Being all alone and isolated in a distant solar system and on uninhabited planets is the cherry on top. A crazy and unstoppable mind, free to play god. Its truly terrifying. David is one of the most vicious villians Ive ever seen. Convinced doing righteous things while being mad and evil.

I really hate the Golem syndrome in scriptwriting. The AI has to go rogue always. "It's the AI's fault". No, it's the programmers fault.

This deserves to be told in a new movie.

Dr Shaw's humanity towards David was her greatest weakness, and David's greatest strength

There's a lot of "meh", or plainly bad things in Prometheus, but the character of Shaw, was one of the few redeeming factors. Killing her, in any way, after all she went through was a dim creative choice, however, killing her off-screen is like adding insult to injury. I see the whole of the Covenant as creatively bankrupt and just wasted potential. You said it best yourself - instead of coming up with something new they just went back to the old trope - quite embarrassing, really.

Michael Fassbender should be in more movies than he is. Such an amazing actor.

Killing off Shaw was the biggest mistake in the whole franchise. That said, she was crazy to trust David after he put the parasite in her.

Yet another excenellent work, Kroft. Can't wait to see the rest of this story. Kudos for all your research and thanks for the amazing content.

Prometheus was a beautiful movie, flawed, but truly suspenseful and an uncharted territory. I felt that Ridley was onto something great and new when Prometheus got published. Now witnessing all the stuff that got canned, it's all too sad to think what could have been. Covenant movie completely destroyed the foundations set by Prometheus. Any other sequel on the matter makes no sense to me, the journey is already wrecked beyond repair... I'm grateful to @Kroft talks about Movies for all the LORE/DELETED SCENES videos he did through out the years, they really keep the flame alive after the dust settled, but now I fear I'm holding onto dying hope. 😢

the repeatable mistake in this entire franchise is they keep killing off the wrong people and stunting the growth and possibilities.

The part where David shows his true colors is definitely a warning for us that AI should not be let loose on it's own 👀👀

Its crazy how a few cuts between both movies really removed such pivotal context. With the addtional info, it changes the depth of David's depravity. Very interesting watch.

Prometheus was beautiful. I wish they would've kept the A:C script closer to it, like you mention the original script was.

I would have never fixed David. The guy was nuts.

Thank you for posting this video. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work.

I will never forgive Scott for killing Shaw off camera. A true waste of an excellent character.

It is unfortunate to learn of Dr. Shaw's death... She was an amazing character... Thank you for bringing more light to her story !!!!😊

Shaw was a great female hero, just like Ripley. Strong, durable, smart, brave

I need people in my life that is obsessed with the alien franchise as this channel is

Thank you for posting this excellent video.

At 13:39 is an original piece by H R Geiger....its actually from 1974 and its a portrait of his dead girlfriend, the hauntingly beautiful "Li Tobler", and it was completely unrelated to the Alien franchise (there are 2 portraits of her...'Li I' and 'Li II'). she committed suicide at 27 years old after suffering a bout of severe depression. He sure processed his grief in an odd way...but then again, that's Geiger for you. When you know the story behind that particular piece of art, it gives you extra perspective and you can clearly see that it was an inspiration for Shaw's remains in Covenant.

Nothing is better than when David says: "shh. . . Don't let the bedbugs bite " 🤩 sheer terror

Thank you for this awesome video. Cant wait for more

This is FANTASTIC I always had so many questions about Shaw why they didn't elaborate on what happened to her I will know I left the theater extremely annoyed and such lack of information especially since she was such fantastic and interesting character

Can't sleep and browsing YT at 5:33am looking for stuff to watch and Kroft uploads, perfect!

Dude, so stoked on this upload! I binge watched all of your videos on the Prometheus/Alien Covenant movies a couple years back. Thank you for this brotha!!!!!

Thanks.bro for clear view on the ending scenes.

Honestly great video. On the subject about David and Shaw forming and intimate relationship, although it is weird, the Alien comics had a story about a woman and male android falling for each other as they both had feelings for each other that felt “real”.

I really hope the next movie continues in the Prometheus Paradise direction, I’d rather see that than a sequel to Alien Covenant and I’m sure I’m not alone…

I don't think that the Engineer home world was the only one, I think the outpost was one of many colonies of the Engineers, perhaps this explains the Engineers welcoming a ship, that if despatched by them would have been missing for 2000 years, they perhaps thought it was an unexpected visiting ship from another colony!

This channel has so much knoledge on the alien movies its amazing this video was great

The background music and his voice telling all this interesting things, i can hear and see it the whole day.... 👍🏼🙃

What you pieced together would be a perfectly chilling monument to what we are all about to experience.

Love this video, thanks!

Well done, Kroft. I appreciate you keeping alive the thoughts and feelings of what could have been a glorious prequel trilogy had the studio not destroyed the script to Episode II. Sigh.

tbh the snapping of the neck is better than what I imagined - my impression was that he was using her, whilst she was alive, as a host for human tissue and eggs from her overies which he was turning into the xeno-eggs. I had assumed he'd kept her alive for months as he operated and experimented on her, oblivious to the pain and suffering he was causing.

This makes sense since Daniels was likely fertile, unlike Shaw.

Interesting video, thanks for sharing, subscribed! 👍

Omg Kroft 😢 you are Back , I missed you bro

Prometheus was an EXCELLENT movie and take on the Alien franchise . They should have stuck to their guns and kept going with the story line. EVERYONE wanted to see the what happened to Shaw … Cowards

So there's not gonna be anymore David or Engineers and we'll never know what happened to all the colonists on the Covenant and we'll never get "Our Queen!" Absolutely gutted. I wanted Alien Awakening so bad. Ive read both the Prometheus PARADISE scripts and theyre both amazing and would have been proper sick movies. I recommend them if your a big fan of this franchise. Cheers for these vids Kroft.💯👊🏽

Love your videos

You gotta give credits to Fassbender for playing David. You can really see the insanity in his facial expressions.

I am also confused as to how David does not see that his monsters will eventually kill him.

I prefer the Xenomorph’s origin to remain a mystery as it’s one of it’s many facets that makes it more terrifying

OMG wow, your breakdown helps me understand more what they were going for. The terror Daniels must have felt makes more sense to me after watching your recap.

So glad that Kroft is consistently back! I missed you so much in that break you took. Your content has come such a long way and it is as amazing as ever! I love delving deep into lore with this channel!

The Shaw David Story detailed here, would have been the best Alien movie EVER. Hands down.

Knowing all of the info from the deleted scenes and the short film prologue films helped make this a much more enjoyable watch for me the second time around. It tied the story for me together and helped me understand Prometheus as a prequel to Alien better.

Excellent Excellent video man

Great video, appreciate your dedication to this. Want to see the series continue and see more on the engineers.

I loved Shaw What a movie, too bad we won’t get more from this franchise

Great videos! What’s the name of the background soundtrack? 😘

Good stuff Kroft. Thank you.

I absolutely love your videos! You chose the best atmosphereric track for them! I'm already so conditioned to it, that it automatically relaxes me 😂👌🏻❤️ This and your voice is so cool!

woah this really finally tied up the loose ends I never understood was present in the movies. This and how you presented this makes so much more sense, however it's deeply disturbing what direction this franchise went.

I would have liked to have seen her return but I also like that they're changing with every film. How many times did we see Sigorney Weaver fight an alien? New stories that broaden the Alien universe and examines where they came from and why they are, is fascinating. It brings new life into the old series.

This could’ve been a neat idea for another universe and characters. Where Ridley Scott and the writers fell short was in shoehorning the Alien universe into it (with mind-numbing plot points).

David ain't wrong. When I saw Daniels in that tank top, I also saw her as an ideal biological foundation as a queen.

And this actually a very good resolution to Shaw's character, and an improvement for David's character as well. Shaw being made into a prototype of the alien queen is what I expected after first watching Prometheus in 2012. It felt logical and natural to me, that David would take her, and experiment on her to breed more xenomorphs. I fully expected to have her still living body grafted into machinery in the opening of Covenant. Oh well...

ah the ol TNG data/lore switcharoo, the Futurama bearded bender, the Charles in charge "chazz" good scifi swicheroo clone script, but your ecplaination is way intense and better than I hoped. Nicely done.

If David and Shaw needed in a relationship it would've made sense considering her isolation. If Yom hanks can be friends with a volleyball I can gully believe Shaw would fall for David out of desperation.

It's awesome that people still discuss this movie 👌

I like to think that David is remotely carrying out orders from Weyland Yutani. It seems like David is just AI, but Weyland Yutani is controlling & observing what he sees the entire time. That would explain all of his actions. Especially killing the engineers, so Weyland can make it a human colony one day & experimenting on Shaw for bio weapons purposes.

What I find fascinating about Prometheus series is that the audience recognizes that it had incredible potential, yet was destroyed in every way possible. Like watching a 12 year old try to drive the most beautiful supercar and end ups crumpled in a ditch. Everybody passionately loves Prometheus, yet passionately hates it at the same time.

As there are contradicting dissections/mutations of shaw shown in the film, David could have created & killed multiple clones of shaw to experiment on & the real Shaw could still be alive in suspended animation, hidden under her tombstone as a twisted joke by David.

This was probably not meant to be the Engineer honeworld but another colony. But, because Ridley Scott doesn't want to work on this anymore, the studio decided to say that it was the Engineer homeworld. It should be unimaginably advanced and urbanized.

For any of you interested in screenwriting, David (the antagonist) tells Shaw (the protagonist) that they are alike. This is a mainstay, some may say trope, of storytelling. Check out other hero/bad guy movies and this dialog will be in almost every one.

Scary...Amazing, thx!

Two things seem clear, at least I believe they are: 1) The actress who played Shaw in Prometheus backed out of doing the sequel. At first they thought of just having the other actress play Shaw but then they decided to make a different character. That is why Covenant had a very similar looking girl whose personality was just a blank slate. 2) These two movies were not written with the intention of being part of the Alien franchise. I have to imagine they decided to try to force some Xenomorph stuff in for marketing purposes.

Great video as always. There seem to be two types of Aliens fans... 1) those who like the xenomorphs, the action sequence primarily... 2) those who want the narrative of the engineers delved into...They should've completed the Prometheus story with a sequel and then go back to the action driven movies. Alien Covenant managed to mostly disappoint both sides, and pretty much ending the series as is. Romulus will be a sort of standalone, hoping to get the fans of the action back, but I doubt it'll be able to.

Great video analysis. It's clear that this could have been so much more than what appeared in the final movie release. It was a wasted opportunity.

I really thought there was a missed opportunity to show the depths of David's depravity and revive some old fashioned body-horror, and really explore extensively the Gigeresque experiments and evolution of Dr. Shaw.. as she was still expertly kept alive

wow. i wonder why those scenes were deleted. they were quite informative

I was always curious about there being a scene between Shaw and David when they arrived at the planet. When she awakens to a destroyed planet, they have a physical confrontation, maybe right before killing her he tells her that he was the one who poisoned Holloway.

this dude has been shitting out the same alien breakdown videos for the last 6 years, it's kind of commendable lmao

There is so much wasted potential in these two movies. Ultimately it became a vanity project with some inconsistent writing, but the underlying mythos had real potential. Killing Shaw off screen was a major let down especially after all she survived in the first movie.

The problem with Hollywood is most Directors makes the movie about them and not the source material.

She could have reattached the head to the body but left him with no feet or something lol