Checking price in europe: starts at 1800€ Welp that's another one crossed out

As a Surface Pro user I have one observation. The kickstand is not attached to the tablet. So you have to attach the keyboard when you want to put your tablet up somewhere. Also for note taking the surface can be leaned a bit with the attached kickstand. I make a lot of use of that attached kickstand. It's a great solution by Microsoft. I wish other manufactures could just use that design.

My work actually just got me this as a desktop/portable replacement. I’m a wine and beverage manager for a large country club. I have a dock for my desk, but am able to use it also as a portable POS station, and work wirelessly from the wine cellars and control our inventory and beverage lists on the fly during service from the restaurant. I’ve only had it three weeks or so but I love it already.

And the only thing they didn’t compare side by side is the very same Surface

I would 100% prefer the headphone jack over that camera...

I'll still go with the Surface Pro because the Kickstand is built into the body. This enables you to easily angle the Surface in Tablet mode.

The built in mic on the 2-1 is exceptional and the camera is excellent from your video sample. Look like a better buy especially if it's cheaper than the Surface pro.

I have the XPS 13 2 in 1 from 2019 when it was a dual core with passive cooling. I absolutely love the form factor and function of the 360 hinge, this new tablet style just looks cheap in comparison. Now I barely use that laptop because I never got to travel with it due to the pandemic and a dual core machine struggles to update windows or launch Chrome, but it's such a pretty device.

It was strange not to have a conversion to kg when you were weighing the notebook, I always thought it was very good that you guys did the conversion for us

This time the clickbait title actually disappointing, because I really hoped they did something cool with the surface form factor, but this is not actually better then Surface Pro. Just the Surface's hinge alone makes it better then any folio case combo. And Surface 8 has good improvements over previous generations (and still has a headphone jack). (Surface 9 though ditches the jack and just adds 5g and that's it)

With only two I/O/Power ports and no post purchase upgrade options for storage and RAM, these are a really tough sells at any price point for me. Bluetooth can take care of headphones, but being capped on storage and RAM from the day it is built, is just really close to a deal breaker.

Would love to see your take on the Thinkpad T14/16 compared to the XPS, apparently they made their keyboards worse to make it thinner again.

I'd love to see comparing them to Thinkpads. The 10th gen Carbon is lighter, more upgradable, with more IO and even cheaper on sale...

Great video Alex. Dell is definitely off my list of options if they keep choosing to keep this lack of io port path.

I just got the Asus ROG Flow Z13. Absolute beast for the size, has better specs than a similarly specced Surface Pro, has an Nvidia GPU, costs less than both the Surface Pro and the MacBook, oh and it has a headphone jack and USB-A port. You can also expand the storage with a micro SD card, and the hard drive is user upgradable. It's a bit thicker and heavier than the other 2 in 1 devices, but it's WAY more versatile. I'm glad I went with that one.

as a work laptop sometimes sound with teams is screwey and i need emergency headphone jack access. this would be a no go. Oh well, my other dell has been very good for work. onedrive works for storage. idk why someone would use a 13 incher as their personal laptop. upgraded to 15 inches for work because excel on 13 inches is pure suffering

I recently learned Colton is head of ShortCircuit so thanks for deciding to add the pricing part Colton! Hope you don't get fired! Oh and thanks for greenlighting the Linus body pillow, that shit was hilarious!

The omission of a headphone jack would be bearable if wireless headphones worked decently on windows... Despite having windows 11 and 2 bluetooth 5.3 perhipherals (both the laptop and the headphones), I cannot get rid of audio delay... Extremely annoying.

Have an 9510 and looked at the dell website while looking at this video. their prices exploded here in germany. the 9520 is five hundred euros more then my 9510. im shocked i have to say.

As somebody who used to main a Surface Pro 4, I immediately see two (Edit: four) major downsides that would prevent me moving to this if I were in the market for a new 2-in-1 (which I'm not right now): 1) While there are several magnets on the back to hold the case, it simply cannot have the range of the Surface Pro's kickstand in that form factor. Also, couldn't hook the not-a-kickstand over my knees while lying on a couch, something I used to do frequently with the Surface! 2) Flat keyboard my beloathed. The thing that made the Surface Pro keyboard not awful was the fact it clipped up to have a decent angle and therefore actual comfortable typing experience. That extra cm off the table really helps it feel like a normal keyboard! Edit: 3) You could actually use the Surface Pro on your lap 😛 Well, I could at least, and did. Most of the time I used it! Edit 2: 4) The movement to open this 2-in-1 and have it set up for typing seems a lot more involved than on the Surface. For the Surface, you open the keyboard lid (as with every laptop) and then just have to flick the kickstand back with the back of your middle fingernail in the little grooves on either side, then you're ready to go. Actually having to stop and adjust the back of the case, both pushing it into the right shape down the bottom and then adjusting the height up the top, is significantly more involved. I'm sure if you swapped between the two as a daily driver for a week or so, these little design decisions would add up. I'm sure the XPS computer part is great, but I do want to give a massive shoutout to the UX team who designed the Surface Pro for so many simple QOL decisions that you don't appreciate until they're suddenly not there! In fact, trying to use my old Surface as Just A Tablet now I have a new laptop, and it's interesting seeing how difficult it is because of _software_ design decisions that seem to have been made with far less care than the hardware. So no, I don't think the XPS has "DESTROYED" the Surface Pro, but it's good to see another serious competitor and I can't wait to see the learnings on a version 2. Little tip Dell: Great designers steal!

How's the thermal throttling on the 2-in-1? One of my biggest complaints about the Surface line was that it throttled heavily which tanked performance.

I’ve always loved these laptop reviews just to stay up to date with tech, but I’m finally finding my life has gotten to the point that I NEED a laptop. Thanks for these!!!

The screen ratio of the 2-1 isn't actually that weird. It's pretty close to the ratio of the Din A format. So this was probably chosen to display documents more true to nature. This will help a lot with the pen input.

Why are you not using metric measurements (for weights)? If you're gonna use one. Use the one that's widely accepted. Or show both. How hard is it?

14:38 I can see right there that they could easily, easily used M.2 2230 as other devices like the Steam Deck the latest Surface/s etc.

I'm dying to see Alex try the Yoga7 gen7. Especially with an eGPU

Fantastic piece for testing e-gpu use with external dongles etc. What a nice opportunity to test it like that.

you should really consider check out Lenovo Duet series, not the Chromebook one but the 12th gen intel

I can always trust Alex to properly rip ANY laptop apart verbally as much as Steve at GN rips into any Prefab desktop.

Presumably the dual usb c arrangement on the 2 in 1 is for the macbook air style dongle hubs? Also how strange does the phrase dongle hub sound?

They should have used lights to ilumine the touchpad on the pro, add option to turn off when not in use. It would still look futuristic and sleek while also being more usable!

I have the XPS 13 Plus (9320) with a core i7, 1TB ssd and 32gb memory and it’s a very good compact machine and does all I need very well and much better than my old 17” HP Spectre x360 Love the fact it automatically starts up when you pull the screen up

Personally as someone that uses there 2 in 1, HP Envy x360, I prefer the build of an actual 2 in 1, where I can use it as an actual Laptop, and when I am at school, I can use it as my tablet that i write on. The fact that mine has 2 USB-C, 2 USB-A, a Headphone jack and SD card reader, both i have never used, as well as the HDMI, that i also use occasionally, all just for £780 pounds, so i found this an amazing deal, also, the radeon processor, is also pretty good for some light gaming, such as fortnite at middle to low but nice settings!

On a phone removing the headphone jack to save space isn't great but I can live with it. But on a laptop, it's a deal breaker. Windows/Macos handle wireless headphones A LOT worse then phones do, and on top of that when I'm using a full computer there's a very good chance I'll want to use my studio headphones, maybe I just want an audio out to some speakers, any number of things.

I wish we can have thin and light devices like the XPS but using amd apus, they would actually be able to game. Especially the new phoenix range apus with zen 4 and rdna 3 those would be amazing especially when compared to these current devices

could we get a comparison video on screen types of different tablet/laptop/2-in-1 devices and how they "feel" for notetaking

Hearing this, besides the 6 hour battery 😉, ik so happy with my asus flow z13. Actually usable as laptop , more power than the 13+.. and a headphone jack (but not much more ). Also , that type Cover from Asus is somehow the keyboard i beat my monkey type record with ...

I recently bought an ASUS zenbook pro 14 duo OLED for 1840 euros. Every single laptop showcase on shortcircuit of laptops from the same price category have made me feel really good about my purchasing decision. It honestly baffles me how little you get for such exorbitant amounts of money.

I wonder how durable the XPS hinges are? I have seen the hinge mounts break away from the backcover.

Does the 2 in 1 allow you to put the tablet in portrait mode and magnetically stick to the keyboard dock to allow for tilting it back?

I thought you switched to metric? 🤔

6:05 where did the Kilogram measurements go? Thats a step backwards :(

One thing I’m curious about the 2in1, or surface pro is, can they install programs off of internet browsers like a normal computer running windows? Or does it require special applications from app stores like iOS or google play? Want a tablet that can run blender since none of the good design apps I’ve come across on iOS are free or one time purchases. There’s some free options available but they all have certain key features missing. Also for the potential to be used as a laptop like what was tried around 8:05, dell could pretty simply design a different keyboard that supports the screen.

Was looking to replace my older HP Envy, but no 3,5mm is a dealbreaker, AND in adition to that there is just not enough ports. Like, if you are charging you got like one port before you end up in dongle hell. I am far enough into dongle hell as it is. If only there was an higher speced variant similar to the Envy that have a 16;10 screen.

15:20 you could still compare it to the M1 Air with 16GB RAM which is in that price range and is still an exceptional laptop, the M1 is also still a bit faster than the i5 1230U (at least according to the benchmarks I found). The only issue is the dated design of the M1 Air.

I wish LTT also made reviews with developers in mind, every developer I know is always thinking about buying a new laptop :D

@1:21 you didn't blur the shipping label. I think earlier you did though. Just a heads up if you didn't know.

I had the same speaker issue with the 2-in-1, an audio driver reset fixed the issue and it's much louder and clear now(ipad level).

Every new laptop destroys old laptop.

It's great to see more 3rd party's doing a kind of Surface of device but with their own engineering to them. I still think the surface kickstand is one to beat but Lonovo, Dell and HP all have some nice alternatives on the market.

It'd be nice to see these reviews show how well it does software engineering tasks like run a VM and docker. See how well the cooling works under load, how loud are the fans. I don't think this is a common thing people look for but personally I find the 2 in 1s very interesting because I don't want a laptop keyboard. I have a 40% keyboard I love and don't want to use anything else. Thanks for the review LTT.

The XPS 13 Plus comes with a 1920 x 1200 screen too. You don't have to get the UHD screen that drains the battery.

I wish you could get an attachable keyboard for the 2in1 that it slots into, containing a bigger battery, which effectively turns it into an actual LAPtop.

Previous 2in1 was objectively better. More screen angles, better processor, better ports and placements.

Just bought a sky XPS 13 with the core i7, 16gb ram and 512gb of storage (with the non touch display) and it’s great so far. I bought it on sale at JB HI FI here in Australia where it was $480 off, but I managed to negotiate $30 off for a $510 discount off of full price (RRP $2399 aud, I paid $1890 aud) which is a huge saving

BUT, does the trackpad support momentum/inertia/trackball mode? ability to throw the cursor is really nice.

No conversions from lbs to grams? I thought you were better than this

My surface 8 has a audio jack and integrated kickstand. I feel that the surface 8 is a better deal overall.

14:10 I have a 2018 XPS 13 9370 and it plays Minecraft fine at low settings. Being able to play Minecraft is a valid perk but it can be down with older higher end notebooks.

after a couple of years the hinge on both mine and my brothers xps 15 broke on one side. So it would push open the bottom plate when i opened or closed the lid, also dislodging the power slot

When you guys preview a 2 in 1 other other laptops with a pen, I'd love to get some artists impressions on the quality of the pen!

You guys forgot to censor the address with the XPS 13 at the beginning (0:17)

What is that supercool transparant laptop the editor guy sitting next to the camera has? superinterested what it is.

Can you do a lap tablet shoot out, like I pad pro vs xps 2-1 vs surface pro and so on

Thank God! Maybe we can finally get rid of the surface pro devices at work! They are awful and we aren't allowed to do repairs on them.

they removed the headphone jack on a laptop???

XPS 13 2-in-1 is a pretty cool and affordable(by comparison, not that it has a great value for money) hybrid. That is actually surprising.

Yo when did you start using freedom units for weighing without the metric conversions

Soldered memory, soldered SSD, barely any I/O. I'd hate it if I got it for free.

It is so annoying that less gadgets have headphone jacks now I can kind of understand on a phone but not large tablets or laptops

Only 2 usc c ports where one is taken by the charger. And the thing is, it's not possible to make a USB-c to multiple USB-c ports hub, like it was on USB-a.

I'm using an Asus Zenbook flip 13 OLED for about half a year, and it don't have headphone jack as well. But for the last 2 years i'm using wireless headsets and headphones on the go. But when i'm at home, I have a thunderbolt dock with ethernet and jack, so it's not that bat of a situation.

I am literally just looking at one on their website for $1449 with i7-1250U, 16gb ram, and folio + pen 😭😭 Perfect timing Might be my next laptop cuz I really want a good 2-in-1 but Surface sucks (overpriced and underspecced) and any other use either ARM or the latest level cpu possible

I would say, if you're going to go with the "only two USB c port" route" at least it's on on each side unlike MACs where both are on the same side

I had a dell inspiron 14 2 in 1 and the right hinge broke within 2 weeks. its appearantly a very common problem. I'm not sure if its the same in all of their other 2 in 1s either though.

I have personally owned my 2 in 1 for about 6 months, my biggest complaint is when I want to detach the keyboard and use as a tablet it is very hard to hold.....and no cases are made for this to make the tablet experience more enjoyable.

Also the 2-in-1 is the perfect quiet option since it's fanless! Perfect choice for auto booths! 😎

No 3.5mm socket (get f-ed Dell). Not Wacom EMR. That stand is not going to be fun, but will do (I use a Samsung with a similar way to prop it up - it's okay at best).

Something different, can you recommend a height adjustable table?

Still rocking a Latitude E7470 for work. has all the ports that I need, even a ethernet jack

The second I saw that it was a Dell XPS in my notifications, I knew Alex would be the one covering it.

Good job LTT! Keep up the great work! I love your videos, the dell xps has always been a laptop on my wishlist!

Nice video. Odd that you would want a 3.5mm jack built in. If you are an normal user, then use Bluetooth. If you are an audiophile than use a plug-in Digital to Analog converter, like the Audio Engine D1.

I want a tablet but Which one do you think would do a better job for handling graphics and video editing?

Anything where the kickstand is not part of the tablet isn't a full Surface Pro contender for me. A major use case for me is only tablet with pen, and using the tablet at a very high angle. Feels like you're on an angled writing desk, and is the most comfy thing ever in meetings and lectures to write on.

should have rolled credits as soon as alex revealed the headphone jack dongle

is there a teardown of the 2-in-1? last time the 2-in-1 was fanless, but I can see the fan at least in the laptop.

Alex has to do a review of the MBP 14, and MacOS after sticking to the XPS for so long.

The stylus looks pretty similar to samsung's s-pen

WTF is this port selection?! My flippin' tablet has more IO than both computers combined! (I have a Dell Latitude 5175 from 7 years ago.) I have USB-C, USB-A, 3.5mm jack, SD slot, SIM slot (LTE baby), and a reaplaceable NVMe 2280 inside while the tablet is opening from the back! I was about to find my new tablet for the last 2 years. Basic expectations: USB-A, Jack, replaceable storage and back entry. Every time a new tablet gets introduced I get more and more attached to my Skylake-4GB latitude. Disappointing. Edit: Yeah, 10.1" 10h battery (when new) and extended battery (double the runtime) in one of the 2 keyboard options.

Any artists know if the 2-in-1 is good for programs such as Clip Studio Paint or Photoshop? I use a Huion kamvas pro 13 which is fantastic but it’s not a standalone. Is the XPS 13 2-in-1 a good mobile choice or are there better ones?

I was sitting on my porch watching this and at the moment of the segue a large pickup drove past and revved its engine, I was very confused and for a moment impressed by my phone's speakers when he told the truck to shut up.

Whenever you have a tablet, could you please bring in someone from your creative team that uses an Ipad pro and pencil to test the tablet and stylus?

6:05 metric measurements too, shortcircuit! metric measurements too! XPS 13: 1.169 kg XPS 13 Plus: 1.266 kg XPS 13 2-in-1: 1.315 kg

what do you need back camera on a Windows tablet for other than to make it wobble when you try to use it flat on a desk

Wait how thin ware the laptops? They didn’t even look thick enough for the headphone jack?

I’d be more interested if they started putting ARM processors in these kinds of machines, I really do prefer battery life and cooler temperatures over x86 compatibility

I must have seen another video because I fail to see where it "destroys" the Surface Pro... Just like with the Surface Pro 9, it doesn't have any headphone jack... I'd stick with the Surface Pro 8! The kickstand of a Surface Pro is amazing! I use it a lot without the keyboard attached. The angle is not only wider but also more smooth. And I've simply never liked magnetic stands. I own four Asus portable monitors and although three of them supports the fancy kickstand (and other compatible mounts) I only have one of those and the magnetic stands are just horrible. The Surface Pro 9 even have a better CPU 1255U vs 1250U for the i7 versions and 1235U vs 1230U for the i5 versions. They both have a 3:2 screen @ 2880 X 1920 but the Surface Pro 9 is 120 Hz while the XPS 2-in-1 is 60 Hz... If price is a concern and you can get the XPS cheaper, then do that. But you're comparing apples to oranges. I had to dislike this video because I'm tired of clickbait. I really though Dell had made something impressive, but it's nothing but a Surface clone. It's fine, but not really destroying anything!

Nice Video but I wished Lenovo and Acer had been included. It reminds me of the Thinkpad L13/X13 or Yoga, as like as Acer Spin and Swift. Don't know how they do now, but 2 years ago they did very well. Also Lenovo has often covered many ports and/or docking stations with even more. I use Lenovo since I studied and some buddy of mine (around 200 kg) sat on his T60 by mistake which was curved after this and we sure thought the display was broken. But after hours it got its form back slowly and the next day we could open it and it worked well. My Flex14-2 works fine since 2016, my X220t has issues but had also to survive many construction sites, natural environments and me. And the last one, most can not stand very long. I'm not easy going on these devices. Not on the software side of things nor the hardware. Coke/Coffee on keyboards, throwing them in the backpack like they are, using solar to charge, change the OS every now and than, making backups from whole laptops, using them as servers and the list goes on and on and on. Acers can't survive me myself, but most people I know. They'd been superior to Lenovo in displays and graphics mostly. I may sound like a Lenovo fan and obviously I'm by now. But Dell had devices which could stand me to some years ago. And many manufactures don't can survive outdoors. Most can't even survive indoors if you have kids, cats or alikes. And why the hell is the camera so important? I know since Covid everybody had intruduced itself to working from home and video calls, but does the prof/boss/... really need to know the correct color of your pyjama? Not sure about that one. I think than graphics would be important too to as many people. Or should I say how many of the popular games from the last 2 years can be played on these? And what about wireless? If I haven't the ports I should use mouse, phone and such via these. And has the pen different pressure levels? So again: Nice video, but space for improvement. ;-)

I have an older Dell XPS 13. It has a phone jack but I prefer the DAC as an audio output because of superior audio quality.