Di2 Internal cable routing made simple! Open U.P. Build

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Time to start Building the OPEN U.P.
Other episodes in this series:
Ep1: • My new Open U.P frame....
Ep2: • Di2 Internal cable rou... (You're watching it!)
Ep3: • BB386 Evo with Shimano...
Ep4: • Steerer, brakes and ge...
Ep5: • Wrapping up the Open U...
In this video, I'll go in-depth into the internal routing of the brake hoses and Di2.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:48 - REAR BRAKE HOSE ROUTING
2:51 - FRONT BRAKE HOSE ROUTING
4:12 - INTERNAL Di2 ROUTING
(Making a routing tool)
10:06 - INTERNAL HANDLEBAR Di2 ROUTING
Preparing Brake cables video: • Dura Ace Disc brake In...
Drilling Handlebars video: • How to use Di2 EW-RS91...
== Part list ==
Brakes
[Brake hoses] SM-BH90-JK-SSR
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[Olive and insert] (If reusing old hoses)
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UK: amzn.to/2QNl4cg
EU: amzn.to/2RTDus3
[Brake Caliper] BR-R9170
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[Di2 Wires] EW-SD50
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UK: amzn.to/2RZn9lH
EU: amzn.to/2QMliAn
_Handlebar 1400mm
_DownTube 1200mm
_Battery 750mm
_Rear Derailleur 650mm
_Shifter-Bar-end junction 350mm
[Internal 4-Port Junction]
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UK: amzn.to/2RVSbuB
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[Handle bar junction]
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UK: amzn.to/2OKdi0V
EU: amzn.to/2QQVzXL
[Di2 Cable clips]
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UK: amzn.to/2QLZ5CD
EU: amzn.to/2z72mph
[Ritchey seat post di2 Battery holder]
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UK: amzn.to/2z9OF8P
EU: amzn.to/2zdIJfg
Routing tool parts
- Steel Wire
- Brake wire ferrule amzn.to/2NsPC6d
- "Packing rope" (That light stuff you pack up cardboard boxes with...?)
Extras:
- Heat Shrink Tubing
US: amzn.to/2HBzImw (1/4 inch diameter size should be ok)
Special Thanks to www.cyclism.jp
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 149

@alicenchainrings1326 4 роки тому

Probably the most informative di2 installation video on youtube.

@atelier40r3 3 роки тому

Simple, precise and above all, very clear! Great DIY vid. Keep up the good work.

@marlonpdot 6 років тому

Video length was good and detailed. I want to put together a similar Di2 setup and you gave me some good ideas. Thanks!

@ryand121984 6 років тому

Very nice bike! I am a big fan of OPEN and I have been enjoying my UP as well especially on off road rides and gravel grinding.

@ThatVeryRandomPerson 6 років тому

I see new video from you, I click, I watch and I smile. Much love from the U.K and keep up the awesome content!

@yetanothervince 3 роки тому

Great video! Love your idea on using a vacuum to suck the cable through the handlebar.

@mas465190 6 років тому

Beautiful build and great video!!

@MrIvanPe 3 роки тому

Could this be the greatest cycling vlog of all time?

@williamkruesi9267 2 роки тому

Thank you for the prompt reply- keep up the good work with the bike build videos!

@hberlin836 5 років тому

Great video, really helped me building my bike!

@clawdawg7248 5 років тому

Very well done, and equally useful. Thank you.

@RobBlazoff 6 років тому

The UP would be a great bike for the UP (upper peninsula) of Michigan. Tons of paths and gravel roads.

@michaelstrachan6018 4 роки тому

Quality vid, will refer back to it with my new build shortly! : )

@gtfranky2780 6 років тому

Thank you so much. Love your videos ,very helpful!!!

@nicolas...3630 Рік тому

Merci pour cette vidéo.

@Tchairdjian 5 років тому

Thanks man... this will make my life so much easier... I am just about getting ready to build my first ever carbon frame aero road bike and I wasn't going to go Di2 as i thought it would be way too hard/complicated to assemble... but you changed my mind after watching your video... Now I gotta come up with the extra $$ to buy al the extra parts but... I think it will be SWEET... LIKED and SUBSCRIBED. Peace!

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Dick Tchairdjian cheers mate! 🙏 Good luck with the build 👍

@zondafive2062 3 роки тому

really helpful video, great work.!

@pfuisi 3 роки тому

Nice build! Beatutiful Bike. Great Video too. Greetings.

@charlesmansplaining 4 роки тому

Dude, you are hilarious. Keep up the good work.

@matthewnuzzaco2849 6 років тому

Great videos!

@chetlangford2144 6 років тому

bro you inspired me to redo my bike a road bike into a 1x lol your awesome bro and your vids

@marcb1278 5 років тому

Great share! Thanks

@BY2NY 6 років тому

Wah, what an intro!

@evanrossow6150 3 роки тому

You can spray a little bit of isopropyl alcohol into the foam tube to make it easier to slide over the hose. The alcohol dries pretty quick

@NiTWO2 4 роки тому

Great video.

@mahmutbayram18 5 років тому

Amazing!

@sinill17 5 років тому

wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~aresome~~~ thx~~!!!^^~ from korea

@kpizzle1985 3 роки тому

Got excited when you said you'd prepared the Ho's 😂

@mikeb8864 3 роки тому

Hi Rides of Japan, great channel - many thanks. Question: does your home made cable guide (made with the brake ferrule) remove the need to buy something like the Park Tool magnetic IR-1.2 Internal Routing Kit? Tack.

@mageleroeskuk 5 років тому

Thank you so much :)

@amsp79 6 років тому

Grym video 👌🏻

@junibenbongabong4730 4 роки тому

Very well , but need also for mtb Di2 cable routing, battery located in steerer tube.

@ugghhhyoutubeisawful646 4 роки тому

"frustration: zero" haha

@rhyswilliams695 6 років тому

Very helpful. Loving the drone footage. I was planning on fitting the BW-WU111 ANT+ / Bluetooth transmitter thingy inside my alloy bars, so that it sits in the middle closest to my Garmin. Do you think the Bluetooth signal will pass through the alloy bars? Should I stop before I hurt myself / someone with wifi signal frustration?

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Rhys Williams I actually haven’t tried it myself so can’t say either way. My gut feeling is that it should work though. Personally I only connect my Bluetooth unit when doing an updated or configuring the buttons.

@MiloslavSirovy 6 років тому

Hi, EW-WU111 should be according Shimano outside the handlebar/stem/frame. Do you try it if it works inside? It would look more clean. Thanks

@rhyswilliams695 6 років тому

Miloslav Sirovy yes, it works fine. Connects with my phone and Garmin without issue. I’m running Pro alloy bars. Hope this helps!

@olepetterdahlman1013 Рік тому

@@ridesofjapan Hi, when you connect it. where does it go?

@ridesofjapan Рік тому

@@olepetterdahlman1013 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jJGSio1_hqKltpc.html

@georgehugh3455 4 роки тому

Nice job; well explained. Might add tips on how much extra to leave near handlebars to allow for turning/crashes (could be in another vid?).

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

George Hugh check here: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/boanaYqPebCaqac.html If it dose t jump to the right time stamp it’s at 11:45

@georgehugh3455 4 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan Thanks! I watched half of that video too (you're a thorough "bleeder").

@williamkruesi9267 2 роки тому

Would zip ties along the rear brake hose that runs through the frame be an effective substitute for the foam tube, to prevent rattles? Thank you for the very helpful, clear and precise video tutorials.

@ridesofjapan 2 роки тому

A brake hose is most likely too stiff and heavy to be held in place by zip ties alone. You can make your own damping material pretty easy yourself though: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iJ9kpod4oKOjpYk.html

@moshinhussain 4 роки тому

Thanks for the really helpful video. Question, you didnt use a Y cable for the handlebars right? You're using two separate cables for the shifters? Sorry Was having trouble following the routing of that part.

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

Yes, no y-cable. The shifters are connected together with one cable, and from one shifter to the junction with the other cable.

@moshinhussain 4 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan Thank you brother. I was a newbie in April, and have learned so much now I can help others. My next project is going to install Di2 on my lynskey, and your video is very well done and super helpful and informative. THANK YOU!!! - thanks for the prompt response too

@MiloslavSirovy 6 років тому

Hi, thanks for really useful video! I enjoy it. Which heat shrink tubes do you use? Any tips? Do you know the diameter and contraction ratio?

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Miloslav Sirovy thanks! I used som cheap stuff from amazon Japan. Can’t find it on us amazon. It it’s 8mm diameter and is suppose to shrink to 50% if it’s original size.

@patrickkatzmair 6 років тому

Nice! 👍 On the Partslist for the Di2 Wires 1400mm for the Handlebar. I plan also to put everything inside the frame an handlebar but is 1400 not to long for the Handlebar (junction to the left shifter)?

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Patrick Katzmair I thought so as well. I had the 1400mm already and tried it, and while there some slack to stuff into the ends , I reckon it actually helps with the rattling. You could probably get away with 1200mm... but I definitely needed more than I thought I would... handlebar with + 20cm or something like that won’t be enough... those drops at long 😅

@patrickkatzmair 6 років тому

Rides of Japan thanks, you‘re right, i measured it today. Amazing how much cable comes along for such a small handlebar 😆

@gearhigher2027 5 років тому

Building "UP" identical bike...Curious what is your overall spacer stack height and your height?

@dwaynepedals 3 роки тому

Hey man, would you recommend using internal foam damper for the Di2 cables instead of the Di2 wire holder clips for dampening sound inside the frame? I've seen in another video where a guy used Jagwire foam damper for the Di2 cables and housing.

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

the foam tube is made the brake hose... I don't think it makes too much sense using it for the Di2 cable... I guess you could but the cable clips work great, and if you for whatever reason need to remove the cables it's easier just dealing with the clips in my opinion.

@michaelmeagher5343 5 років тому

I really enjoy your bike building videos and am planning on doing a Di2 build myself. I plan on traveling to Japan in April. Do you think I can get better pricing on Shimano gear in Japan than outside? If so, where would you recommend I go? Thanks

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Michael Meagher cheers. I think it will be hard finding any massive bargains in-store here. Most store just list part at or around rrp. Hard to beat online prices I think.

@michaelmeagher5343 5 років тому

Thanks. Will look forward to further videos

@rwc119 6 років тому

Great editing! Q: what size heat shrink tubing did you use, and do you have an Amazon Japan link for it? Cheers!

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

RW C yes, 8mm www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01EMYC9IA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_c_K655AbZX2PXTS

@jerseybarrier64 4 роки тому

Speaking of the foam tubing that was supplied by Open, any thoughts of a good substitute that can be purchased elsewhere? Seems like a good idea and like to use something similar. thanks

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

Checkout this old video on what I did for my old Mason bike ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iJ9kpod4oKOjpYk.html

@sportnation8885 3 роки тому

being a mechanical user i thought of upgrading to di2 after watching this video, I'm put off by the installation process. I might need to switch groupsets to Sram etap force. Seems like Shimano still cannot get things to work wirelessly.

@batbawls 5 років тому

Alcohol sprayed on the housing before you slide on the foam tube works to make it easy and then it eventually evaporates.

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

A. Random awesome! Cheers for the tip! 👍

@holinografias 5 років тому

Never heard of those di2 cable clips before, do they work? If yes I'm in need of some!

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

holinografias definitely works. You can use zip ties to the same effect... the clips are cheap though.

@marcb1278 4 роки тому

More like a Q. Must I removed the Bottom Bracket to successfully upgrade my system to R8050 or is there a way/hack around it? My 2017 TCR Advanced has capped hole on Top Tube forward-drive side and another capped hole lower Seat Tube drive side behind the crankset. Are those holes for Di2 electronic wire routing. Btw, great channel and thanks

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

Marc Bautista that sounds like ports for di2 indeed. I think it would be very hard to route di2 with the bottom bracket in... might be possible to fiddle your way trough the down tube if you remove the fork. I manage to remove a full di2 setup without removing the BB, but I think installing it will be a lot more challenging... good challenge for a future video 😅

@marcb1278 4 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan thank you much! I guess I'll have to change bottom bracket then as I am not ready for expensive screw up. :-)

@percyharper 3 роки тому

Hi very useful vid! may i ask you the lenght of the wire that pass through the handlebar? (the one that connect the left shifter to the junction box)

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

Take a peak in the description 👍

@percyharper 3 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan ouch! my bad!

@nunatakgear1034 5 років тому

What size heat shrink tubing did you get? Well done channel you have!

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

nunatak gear thanks mate! This one should work amzn.to/2HBzImw 1/4 inch diameter size should be ok. I used a 8mm one in this video. Can only seem to find that in the Japanese Amazon.

@cliffcox7643 2 роки тому

To get it thru the foam tube extremely easily, use electricians wire pulling lube.

@Tchairdjian 5 років тому

Hi Again. I want to use an 11-42T XT Cassette with my Ultegra 2x 34/50T Crankset and Di2. Do you think I should go for the XT Derailleur or the Ultegra R8050 model OR the RX8050 Derailleur? I will for sure be using a new B-Link from WoolfTooth... probably the Roadlink DM.

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

You can’t pair an XT di2 derailleur with road front one so Definitely the Rx8050 if it were up to me. Roadlink DM sounds like the best/cleanest solution there 👍

@Tchairdjian 5 років тому

Thanks @@ridesofjapan. Would you even think the RX805 (the clutch version) may offer any improvement to keep the chain tight?

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Dick Tchairdjian definitely. Might not be necessary if you just ride on the road but a bit of gravel I’d take a clutch derailleur any day.

@patrickkatzmair 5 років тому

How did you get the di2 cable thru the canyon h31 cockpit? I can get the rope thru it but no chance with the di2 cable attached to it. I think i have to route it externly under the canyon cockpit?!

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Patrick Katzmair yes, on my canyon cockpit I did route it externally under the bartape down to the drilled hole about 4-5 cm from the bar end.

@patrickkatzmair 5 років тому

Ok thanks, thats the way to go. 🤙

@RixterNow 6 років тому

Well done! How long did the whole thing take? I think 1/2 way through I would have had to have a self imposed time out in a padded room. BTW, not being familiar with the Open frame, was it an upgrade over the Bokeh or just a replacement?

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Haha, yeah.... making sure you film every thing makes a evenings build take forever hehe. I would say it’s an upgrade for me as it will be my only bike. I wanted something a bit lighter as 90% of our rides are in the mountains. That being said, the Bokeh is an awesome bike, would have been happy continue riding that as well. But The stars aligned to make this frame a reality.

@Afterqew 5 років тому

hey @Rides of Japan, how do you charge your li-ion battery pack?

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Aaron Goerzen do you mean the di2 battery? I charge it via the handlebar end junction

@MattLew 6 років тому

Did you use the BB cable guide or left it out? I'm building an Open Up classic with di2 and the guide doesn't want to fit because of my BB.

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Hmm... Yes I use the guide just not to have a gaping hole there. But you should be able to cover it with something else I reckon 🤔

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Btw whey are you sure it Dosen't fit? I had to give it a wack with a rubber mallet to pop it back in after I finished the build

@MattLew 6 років тому

Got it to fit, just had to go in before the BB. :)

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Matthew Lew excellent!

@davidg140 5 років тому

Hi, just wondering what diameter of the Heat Shrink Tubing do you use for the rear brake hose and di2 cable going to the frame? and also for the front brake? thanks

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Chang take a look in the description, link should be in there :)

@davidg140 5 років тому

Hi i do saw a link there but wondering what size should be better (length and diameter) for the hose and di2 wire that going to the frame. they have 1/2 inch and bunch of others, wondering which one is better. thanks!

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Chang measure you cables and get tubing that’s a bit longer, or just get the longest option and then cut it down to your cable length. That’s probably the best way.

@davidg140 5 років тому

ok thanks! quality videos.

@ridesofjapan 5 років тому

Chang cheers mate! 🙏

@simonpattison5598 3 роки тому

Did you drill the carbon bars or do they come with holes? Can't seem to find that model on the internet?

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

I drilled holes myself, same method as I shoe in his video ukposts.info/have/v-deo/m39_Z61ogIKQmJ8.html

@simonpattison5598 3 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan thankyou for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated. Love your videos by the way! Hope all is well with you. Chapeau...

@simonpattison5598 3 роки тому

I have some Easton EC70 AX carbon bars. I'm taking it it's ok to drill carbon? Drilling aluminium is one thing, carbon ok? I'm hoping so. Love your attention to detail when building etc.

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

@@simonpattison5598 It will void any warranty, so it's always at your own risk. I would be a bit more careful than with metal, don't drill more than you have to etc. and wear a mask as you don't wan to inhale any carbon dust. Cheers!

@kieranfitzpatrick875 3 роки тому

Does it matter what sort of ferrule you use for the di2 wiring installation?

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

I’ve only used the jagwire brake ferrules... but any ferrule for brakes wires should work in theory at least.

@kieranfitzpatrick875 3 роки тому

Rides of Japan Cheers, am gonna order some ferrules and steel wire for my new build over the weekend. 👍💪🏻

@adicatalan 3 роки тому

What did you use to cover the BB area for the mech shifting ?

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

I use the cover for mech shifting. I do think then released a special "no-ports" cover for electronic shifting now. But I never had any problem with the normal cover.

@rizalirawan608 3 роки тому

Helo i want to ask, right side lever is connect to bar end junction, How about connect left lever n bb juction ?

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

Check 9:35 in the video 👍

@rizalirawan608 3 роки тому

Oh im sorry.. im understand now🙏👍👍

@izoard77 4 роки тому

the upgrade kit i am going to buy comes with y cable, do I still need to buy the 1400mm cable?

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

Hard to say, there still a good chance the cable from the frame junction is too short to reach the nearest shift lever (that would be the shortest way to route the cable)

@georgehenderson5167 3 роки тому

Do you not need a ewds50 from front mech to junction box?

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

George Henderson I don’t have a front mech, so no, I don’t ;)

@georgehenderson5167 3 роки тому

My bad 🤦🏽‍♂️

@joshuaamaral5855 6 років тому

Do you have it so that both of your sti lever activate the rear derailleur?

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Joshua Amaral correct, same button configuration on both levers. Only difference is the hidden button on top of the levers that’s set to shift up on the right and shift down on the left lever.

@joshuaamaral5855 6 років тому

Rides of Japan thx

@chiatworld 4 роки тому

Hi why did you use an XT rear mech instead of the regular road derailleur

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

Because I use a 11-42 cassette and a single ring in the front, that is too big for a road derailleur. Also the XT mech has clutch to help with chain retention.

@hsevin 3 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan how can a mtb di2 rear derailleur work with a road di2 lever? shimano say they cannot mixed.

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

Only Di2 combination that doesn’t work is mixing a front road derailleur with a MTB rear derailleur (or vice versa)

@hsevin 3 роки тому

@@ridesofjapan i'll build also a cyclocross set-up with di2 xtr RD and di2 ultegra road levers. i have been search for this answer. thank you so much.

@rizalirawan608 3 роки тому

Hello how long di2 cable inside your handlebar ? 1000mm or 1200mm? 😁 i use bar 42cm c-c

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

1200mm Check this video ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qpVlirB5eaWfzHU.html at the 2:20 mark

@rizalirawan608 3 роки тому

Rides of Japan i mean in this video at 10:30 how long di2 cable do you use inside bar, end to end to connect junction 910 with left lever? 😁🙏

@ridesofjapan 3 роки тому

rizal irawan check the description 😉

@rizalirawan608 3 роки тому

Rides of Japan thank you.. this video is usefull for me...

@wichersham 6 років тому

How did you modify minoura rs-1600 to thru axle??

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

wichersham hack saw and a drill if I remember correctly.

@TCCGrantT 6 років тому

Top video (ps, cyclism.jp address needs an edit!)

@ridesofjapan 6 років тому

Cycling in Japan god damn auto correct ;) cheers!

@mikicastan 6 років тому

Those are nice frames,but man,they are so expensive!

@TrevorOleniuk 4 роки тому

Wait - did you drill holes in those carbon bars?

@ridesofjapan 4 роки тому

Trevor Oleniuk yes, same method as I did in this video ukposts.info/have/v-deo/m39_Z61ogIKQmJ8.html

@cliffcox7643 2 роки тому

How much more weight is Di2 vs mechanical.

@trekkeruss 2 роки тому

If I am not mistaken, current Di2 is lighter than mechanical, but only by a few grams. The difference becomes greater when wires and cables are factored in.

@cliffcox7643 2 роки тому

@@trekkeruss That's quite incredible.