Dickens vs Tolstoy featuring Tom Hiddleston and Zawe Ashton

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Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

5 років тому

The Battle Of The Great 19th-century Novelists with Professor John Mullan arguing for Dickens and historian Simon Schama arguing for Tolstoy. Bringing their arguments to life with readings we had Tom Hiddleston, star of Marvel's Thor and The Avengers, and Zawe Ashton, acclaimed for her roles in Fresh Meat and Wanderlust. The debate was chaired by Bonnie Greer.
Dickens. Tolstoy. Their names and reputations shake the ground - and so do their books, if you drop one. They are the two greatest novelists from the century when novels were really great. Both captured their countries’ very souls and, as vastly influential social reformers, savagely criticised them as well. But whose legacy is more enduring? Whose vision truer and more relevant today? Should you embark on War and Peace or Our Mutual Friend?
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@juliastenberg1169
@juliastenberg1169 3 роки тому
Let's be honest here. They knew exactly what they were doing when they put Tom Hiddleston in the thumbnail.
@thequeenofboba6583
@thequeenofboba6583 3 роки тому
I was looking for this comment. Yes.
@moonl0verr
@moonl0verr 3 роки тому
Lmao
@lbdj9367
@lbdj9367 3 роки тому
i know right?
@AnaVerona_
@AnaVerona_ 3 роки тому
No doubt.
@mmw55122
@mmw55122 3 роки тому
Yes. However, when I saw his photo along with the title I did not think of Loki (of whom I am a big fan.) Instead, I harkened to the serious and award-winning stage work he has done. And when I saw the rest of his company I was hooked and very much enjoyed the entire lecture/performance.
@motherchaos
@motherchaos 5 років тому
I think Hiddleston has a future as a teacher of the classics if he ever decides to hang up the acting hat.
@heathercontois4501
@heathercontois4501 5 років тому
I would trade countries and go back to school just for that.
@ironvlogger9712
@ironvlogger9712 5 років тому
That he would, that he would
@viceliag3916
@viceliag3916 5 років тому
He really does. His enthusiasm for classical literature is pretty much unrivaled. It'd probably be a really fun class, tbh.
@kccgurl
@kccgurl 5 років тому
There seems to be some confusion in the replies to this. His degree in classics is Classics as in the sense of Greco-Roman literature and history, not what we consider classical literature, not anything that really has to do with debate.
@HaiLeQuang
@HaiLeQuang 5 років тому
Damn. He looks great. I guarantee no student would be able to concentrate in his class.
@juliesteimle3867
@juliesteimle3867 5 років тому
I am so glad Tom Hiddleston still does stuff like this. I like him in his movies, but I think he shines best in the classics.
@revaakardak9871
@revaakardak9871 5 років тому
He is one such classy himself 😎
@jccurran9327
@jccurran9327 4 роки тому
Yeah, Mr. Timothy West - Great Actor!
@SS-nx2xx
@SS-nx2xx 4 роки тому
Tolstoy and Dickens are not classics...they were written in the Victorian period
@kolya727
@kolya727 3 роки тому
@@SS-nx2xx They obviously meant classic novels...
@user-bh1tb9em1q
@user-bh1tb9em1q 3 роки тому
Tbh Hiddleston is not that great of an actor. I mean, at the war horse it was so bad it was painful to watch. It was a running joke that the horse acted better
@JokerLurver
@JokerLurver 5 років тому
I'm a simple woman. I see Tom, I click. Never disappointed.
@johnnyjohnny998
@johnnyjohnny998 4 роки тому
Yeah, you do sound pretty simple.
@user-vu2ge2ww5y
@user-vu2ge2ww5y 4 роки тому
classic.
@schoolcoach1
@schoolcoach1 3 роки тому
😆 LOL good point!
@jasminepoupore3870
@jasminepoupore3870 3 роки тому
this.
@yennefeer7023
@yennefeer7023 2 роки тому
How relatable :D haha.. Tom is one of the best
@xuenli4975
@xuenli4975 3 роки тому
i feel smart and stupid at the same time while watching this.
@heavenshaffer
@heavenshaffer 2 роки тому
Agreed
@geniusonyeo
@geniusonyeo 2 роки тому
I agree 🥴👍
@marilirosales1281
@marilirosales1281 2 роки тому
Same
@loki_is_fav213
@loki_is_fav213 2 роки тому
Same
@lulu-kz5gf
@lulu-kz5gf 2 роки тому
Why would you feel stupid? If you're enjoying it it doesn't matter.
@st4nkpu55y4
@st4nkpu55y4 5 років тому
if i got a penny for everytime i've watched something i wouldn't normally watch because tom was in it, i'd be a millionare.
@silverhawking
@silverhawking 5 років тому
Same here. Actually, quite possibly more than that. I spend a lot of time watching things I wouldn't normally watch because he's in them.
@HawkinaBox
@HawkinaBox 5 років тому
LMAO
@plls2880
@plls2880 4 роки тому
@@silverhawking Same.
@shh11111
@shh11111 3 роки тому
Lol true, i would never watch anything like this, but clicked because of tom. Whoever decided to put his face on thumbnail did a great job.
@annle2515
@annle2515 3 роки тому
Well, if it will bring someone to Tolstoy it is good-). I actually always wonder, why people consider War and Peace hard to read, sophisticated etc. in Russian-speaking countries we have (at least we had, ... ) to read it in school and damn idiots kept complaining that W and P it is too long. Whereas apparently War and Peace is as entertaining as Game of Thrones. Battles, noble families, charismatic and diverse characters, historical stuff, all that. And whereas War and Peace is entertaining his short stories and novels are heartbreaking, he gives this image of social inequality and absurdity of the war with such passion and such high-quality art; I remember starting reading these short novels/stories accidentally, they r not as have-to-read as War and Peace; so I've just found the book with his short novels on the bookshelf and Haji Murat makes reader to shiver, this scene of aul (village) devastation...even in English translation... is so powerful...as the whole Haji Murat novel itself...I think when Hiddleston was reading this part of Haji Murat it was possible to see how listeners hold their breath...and also all his short stories about Crimean war. And Tolstoy actually is more pleasant to read than Dostoevsky, because he is kinder to all of his characters. He always tries to show the lighter side, like for example Anatol in War and Peace is a nastiest jerk possible, but when he suffers terribly (they are cutting his leg without anesthesia) in the hospital we can see how pain turns him (the nastier human being in the book) into just a suffering human and we stop hating him as well as Andrey stops to hate him. And importantly the quality of Tolstoy prose loses nothing when translated into English, because his prose is just so humane and universal and powerful and easy to translate...
@DanyAguilerastudios
@DanyAguilerastudios 5 років тому
I came here for Tom Hiddleston, I stay for the performances.
@DanyAguilerastudios
@DanyAguilerastudios 5 років тому
@Reema Ameer I've seen him too (even noticed the moment when he took off his jacket)
@carly2308
@carly2308 5 років тому
Reema Ameer you can never miss a hiddleston
@katearcher8514
@katearcher8514 5 років тому
Precisely
@oleksandras8300
@oleksandras8300 5 років тому
Same mate
@this_mundane_life
@this_mundane_life 3 роки тому
Everyone: I came for Tom Me: I see Tolstoy I click
@levinkonstantin5025
@levinkonstantin5025 3 роки тому
Hahahhaha thats me
@cotbegemot1
@cotbegemot1 3 роки тому
same
@ninaturovskiy5319
@ninaturovskiy5319 3 роки тому
I came here for all three... 😶
@user-tk1ef2pt8t
@user-tk1ef2pt8t 2 роки тому
Me:I see Charles Dickens I click😂
@user-qv7qd5ez4j
@user-qv7qd5ez4j 2 роки тому
Same! 😂
@gracelynnguyen1884
@gracelynnguyen1884 5 років тому
So I’m one of the more annoying people who came because I saw Tom Hiddleston
@heheidk6669
@heheidk6669 5 років тому
FAIRY TAIL SQUAD 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
@moonwavex
@moonwavex 5 років тому
same. i literally didn’t know what it was about but i saw tom so i clicked
@AnjanaBSubba
@AnjanaBSubba 5 років тому
Count me in too.
@zuraidazakaria7419
@zuraidazakaria7419 5 років тому
You are not alone. I saw Tom Hiddleston I clicked.If that makes me shallow so be it lol
@paulinacalquin7208
@paulinacalquin7208 5 років тому
OMG MEE TOOO!!! BUT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING though becouse am reader and I have read both tolstoi and Dickens.. But as soon as I saw Tom I just cliked fast as I could!!! And his voice reading it was heaven!!!
@erikapeterson7347
@erikapeterson7347 5 років тому
I'm a huge Hiddleston fan and love that he does these. It brings literature, plays, etc that normally fans wouldn't know to a wider audience.
@heathercontois4501
@heathercontois4501 5 років тому
Yes, indeed.
@ceemam1039
@ceemam1039 5 років тому
Did he do any others? If so, could someone PLEASE tell me some? I need more.
@julesfairfax5623
@julesfairfax5623 3 роки тому
Y e s!
@michaelsalisbury1477
@michaelsalisbury1477 2 роки тому
Who,? Tom who?
@HB-rx1le
@HB-rx1le Рік тому
I only knew him as a poetry reader originally, had no idea he was an actor when I first stumbled across his readings years ago. I still don't know that I've ever seen anything he's been in, but I also love that some people who may have never been interested in certain literary works may have been introduced to them because of him, Helena Bonham Carter, Jeremy Irons, Michael Caine, and others who do these kinds of panels and readings.
@ThatRandomGirlAndrea
@ThatRandomGirlAndrea 2 роки тому
No wonder Zawe and Tom are dating, they're both classic literature nerds and amazing actors. Good on them!
@natyvasova90
@natyvasova90 4 роки тому
Tom: "abandon everything and fly away with me" Me: Yes
@Lana_S-ova
@Lana_S-ova 5 років тому
I am Russian, never ever heard Tolstoy in English before. Wow! It was very interesting and absolutely unique experience for me.
@MJ-py7ml
@MJ-py7ml 5 років тому
Я думала я одна такая)))😂 Привет, русский человек)
@nuri2318
@nuri2318 5 років тому
Does English translation do justice to original? Which one is better..?
@aiymrakhmetzhanova2595
@aiymrakhmetzhanova2595 4 роки тому
@@nuri2318 original is way more better
@annatamparow4917
@annatamparow4917 3 роки тому
Yes, but Dostoyevsky is more intuitive, better at everything, not a dilettante, like the dear Count!
@Lana_S-ova
@Lana_S-ova 3 роки тому
@@MJ-py7ml 👋
@itgirl9641
@itgirl9641 3 роки тому
You can't just choose one. Dickens vs Tolstoy, is just like... Tom Hiddleston or Benedict Cumberbatch, you can't just choose one because they both brilliant
@cotbegemot1
@cotbegemot1 3 роки тому
great comparison
@lorenaisabelmorenorios1478
@lorenaisabelmorenorios1478 3 роки тому
totally agree, lol
@Dany-yc7uh
@Dany-yc7uh 3 роки тому
Crap they are perfect 🥰
@vbvamsi17
@vbvamsi17 2 роки тому
True that's right 🤩
@respect6451
@respect6451 2 роки тому
DICKENS
@jamako732
@jamako732 5 років тому
Came here for the debate and was surprised to see Hiddleston on the stage; on this note: Damn it, Tom, you handsome bastard.
@TianaLuo
@TianaLuo 3 роки тому
Right, everyone else came for him and I didn't even notice the thumbnail. Glad Tolstoy won.
@ozsfi
@ozsfi 3 роки тому
@@TianaLuo Same here , I came for the debate and then noticed Tom was there. Maybe it was the selection but for me Tolstoy won.
@miimoz1407
@miimoz1407 5 років тому
Time stamps! Charles Dickens (12:48-18:40) Great Expectations performed by Zawe Ashton, Timothy West, and Kit Kingsley. (21:10-22:55) Bleak House performed by Tom Hiddleston (25:10-30:25) Great Expectations performed by Zawe Ashton, Julia Sawalha, and Timothy West. (33:15-37:55) David Copperfield performed by Zawe Ashton, Julia Sawalha, Timothy West, and Kit Kingsley. Leo Tolstoy (44:45-47:25) Hadji Murat performed by Tom Hiddleston (53:23-58:38) Anna Karenina performed by Julia Sawalha and Zawe Ashton (1:00:12-1:04:50) Anna Karenina performed by Tom Hiddleston and Julia Sawalha (1:06:00-1:10:20) Anna Karenina performed by Tom Hiddleston and Zawe Ashton (1:13:02-1:19:40) War and Peace performed by Tom Hiddleston and Zawe Ashton
@Whitneypyant
@Whitneypyant 5 років тому
Em Cee thanks
@mena5090
@mena5090 5 років тому
Wow thank you, this is exceptionally helpful👏🏼💕
@silverhawking
@silverhawking 5 років тому
Thank you so much! I really, really needed this.
@lltbcke
@lltbcke 5 років тому
You're a hero. Thanks!
@mijadane
@mijadane 5 років тому
Thanks
@floren3576
@floren3576 Рік тому
Woah, I'm blown away by Zawe. Her voice is so melodious, I love it.
@ailaniwilliams1081
@ailaniwilliams1081 5 років тому
WOOOOOOOW😯That young boys performance was INCREDIBLE there is almost no words to Express how good he is
@ezrak.334
@ezrak.334 3 роки тому
I agree! hope he has an acting career ahead of him
@jeannegallegos8410
@jeannegallegos8410 2 роки тому
You will probably never read this, but here goes: 1, I agree, the very young man 👨 has a very strong & very good career ahead of him, possibly a great career, that supports that talent. 2. Hiddleston, so very gifted, is in a company of other very great talents. Iron sharpening iron, i.e. giving wonderful performances because one is in the great talents. Support and encouragement (even competitions) to do even better than you've done before. 3. See how wonderful the classics are with marvelous 😍 acting? Americans do not have a real grasp of the classics, or they would be performed much more, everywhere. And young people would be frequently treated to them on stage, in movies & television, and on the radio. I don't suppose drama classes are given in schools anymore; giving school plays of Dickens, Tolstoy, Shakespear, Chekov, all the Great Ones. Plays like The Glass Menagerie, Richard III... We all learn so much from them, help us to look at who & what we are, help us develope self-insight and sensitivity to others. We have dumbed down as a group of humans.
@sohaeihab2485
@sohaeihab2485 2 роки тому
i was litterly looking for this comment , the young man actually nailed the acting and was so muture through out the debate which is so admirable kudos to him
@lenazhou7335
@lenazhou7335 2 роки тому
Extremely impressive ! I couldn't agree more
@monika-lj9ci
@monika-lj9ci 4 роки тому
Yeah, I love Tom too but can we talk about how awesome Zawe Ashton is here?
@c4ward1
@c4ward1 2 роки тому
All the actors are top notch!
@gabisasantos
@gabisasantos 2 роки тому
Yes!
@stevelaul5041
@stevelaul5041 2 роки тому
Never liked her acting.
@daisy7066
@daisy7066 2 роки тому
Dreadful monotone acting, especially in contrast to Julia S.
@deadpxn3517
@deadpxn3517 2 роки тому
She's great but Velvet Buzzsaw was terrible
@poetryqn
@poetryqn 5 років тому
My personal opinion is that Dickens is much better at writing joy, while Tolstoy is a master of suffering. That is not to say that either is poor at the opposite emotion; just that it's like comparing a great rock guitarist with a spectacular concert pianist: they are different pleasures for me.
@lukaszurov
@lukaszurov 5 років тому
Dostoevsky is a true master of suffering, don't ever try reading him while having any symptoms of depression. Tolstoy is more of a moralist, especially after going vegeterian
@katezebra7488
@katezebra7488 5 років тому
Popular opinion in Russia is that Tolstoy have much «water» in his works .
@tontelion
@tontelion 5 років тому
Kate Zebra not “water”, but gigantic expositions and extremely large sentences
@teresayeates8327
@teresayeates8327 5 років тому
Dickens and joy are oxymorons. Even his children's stories are depressing, the children die.
@lukaszurov
@lukaszurov 5 років тому
@sochuiwon priscilla I think there should be a warning on his books 'not suitable for those in depression'
@radhikaj1167
@radhikaj1167 2 роки тому
No wonder Tom is dating Zawe. They both can talk about classics and theatre for their rest of their lives without being tired ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@RosesNightengales
@RosesNightengales Рік тому
I’m so happy for Tom and Zawe! Things are going so well for him! He’s engaged to her and she’s pregnant now with his child ❤️
@shxholistic2502
@shxholistic2502 5 років тому
Came to appreciate Tom Hiddleston, stayed to appreciate the other incredible players. Great company indeed. Such extraordinary performances.
@Scotchism
@Scotchism 5 років тому
Dostoevsky: Hold my beer...
@annatamparow4917
@annatamparow4917 3 роки тому
Absolutely! Crime and Punishment, The Idiot, The Devils and Brothers Karamazov are the greatest crime mysteries in the entire Russian literature. That being said, I read War and Peace once a year, omitting all the Masonic chapters!
@Chi-np2lz
@Chi-np2lz 3 роки тому
Dostoevsky: Hold my fear-stricken guilt
@tripp8833
@tripp8833 3 роки тому
His characters are unrealistic to me
@nikolozjalabadze
@nikolozjalabadze 3 роки тому
@@tripp8833 That's because you don't know Russian Society. Those unrealistic characters are very realistic to Russians and surrounding countries(because of the occupation). I don't know where you are from, but I'm speaking as Georgian(Country).
@tripp8833
@tripp8833 3 роки тому
@@nikolozjalabadze I doubt alyosha or prince Myshkin are realistic characters. Sorry. Never been to Russia but I bet they're still human at the end of the day
@aishwaryasrivastava6181
@aishwaryasrivastava6181 5 років тому
I always knew Tolstoy would win. There is something raw about his writing that just resonates with everybody. Also, Tom Hiddleston my love thanks for choosing Tolstoy.
@tusharmusale8739
@tusharmusale8739 5 років тому
Spoilers, ahem
@Weronika-ev4gp
@Weronika-ev4gp 5 років тому
I was so happy he chose him! I voted for Tolstoy since the beginning. All the respect for great Dickens though. :)
@aishwaryasrivastava6181
@aishwaryasrivastava6181 5 років тому
@@Weronika-ev4gp yeah same.. I love Dickens too. A tale of two cities is one of my favourite books but Tolstoy wins my heart.
@aishwaryasrivastava6181
@aishwaryasrivastava6181 5 років тому
@@tusharmusale8739 oops, sorry 😅
@annatamparow4917
@annatamparow4917 3 роки тому
What? The dilettante Count won? We needed Dostoyevsky urgently!
@aleksandrasrimdzius
@aleksandrasrimdzius 5 років тому
Great moderator, great panel, awesome vibe, even the fact that you are spending good 90 minutes whatching quality stuff about 19 century literary greats in 21 century feels like a rebelion .
@msship8234
@msship8234 5 років тому
Well, let me join in
@msship8234
@msship8234 5 років тому
¡Viva la Revolución!
@Elizakmx
@Elizakmx 5 років тому
You are so accurate! Bravo
@zirafe
@zirafe 5 років тому
i came here for Tom Hiddleston, stayed for Tolstoy.
@cotbegemot1
@cotbegemot1 3 роки тому
same :)
@mistynightsky2503
@mistynightsky2503 4 роки тому
There is nothing better than a middle-aged, good-looking man who is into classic literature and has an accent. I am dead
@doodlelulu2178
@doodlelulu2178 3 роки тому
The birth scene was so epic. They did so good on their act. They’re all so good lol.
@pipinm2214
@pipinm2214 2 роки тому
They really did.
@ev_mom2657
@ev_mom2657 Рік тому
Now it's going to really happen
@tatianadavidson4329
@tatianadavidson4329 Рік тому
When life imitates art…
@myt.nguyen7661
@myt.nguyen7661 3 роки тому
47:34 I really enjoy the way Mr. Schaman holding Tolstoy's works with lots of bookmarks. It shows his passion for Tolstoy and adds more validity in his speech.
@TriploGoofus
@TriploGoofus 2 роки тому
Joy, great joy that Tom Hiddleston finally found a woman to love who is exactly as geeky as him.
@ShaynaSKZ_685
@ShaynaSKZ_685 5 місяців тому
Hahar yes 😊
@mariazahedi7444
@mariazahedi7444 4 роки тому
That little boy was amazing. He's so cute and talented.
@natashapovalova7399
@natashapovalova7399 5 років тому
it is wonderful to see a famous actor taking part in such event. Tom is always perfect and wonderful.He is a smart and intelligent person
@heathercontois4501
@heathercontois4501 5 років тому
I saw Tom participating in Dickens vs Tolstoy. Once I realized they had them being read against each other, my nerd girl got all happy and stayed for the entirety.
@Zewnep
@Zewnep 5 років тому
Well I'm a simple girl. I saw Tom Hiddleston, I jumped in.
@MonnamiePhannPhann
@MonnamiePhannPhann Рік тому
And now they are having a BABY!!
@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808
@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808 5 років тому
And this is why I adore this man so much. He's not just a pretty face but has a brilliant mind as well as a generous heart.
@lizziebooth5397
@lizziebooth5397 5 років тому
Have you ever told Simon how you feel?
@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808
@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808 5 років тому
sorry, who? :)
@amandaperez8776
@amandaperez8776 5 років тому
so you wrote this and the only thing I could think about was Tom hiddleston :)
@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808
@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808 5 років тому
@@amandaperez8776 he's exactly who I was talking about
@heathercontois4501
@heathercontois4501 5 років тому
It's why we love him so much.
@calibanxpable
@calibanxpable 3 роки тому
I dont understand why there has to be a battle. Literature is a calm and lush garden. Let's enjoy all of it.
@mosart7025
@mosart7025 3 роки тому
Obviously people love contests and "conflict". Would this many people have shown up if it was one professor giving a lecture? At least it is exposing thousands of people to 2 amazing authors they might never have heard of or read.
@112steinway
@112steinway 3 роки тому
With all due respect, I wholeheartedly disagree. Literature is a battlefield where words are ammunition and authors are soldiers ripping at each other's throats for the public's attention and praise.
@calibanxpable
@calibanxpable 3 роки тому
@@112steinway I will keep friends with you.
@jellalfernandes1309
@jellalfernandes1309 2 роки тому
Agreed. I am enjoying it too. I love both, can never choose anyway😁
@yennefeer7023
@yennefeer7023 2 роки тому
It's not a battle :D It is a debate. In which people culturaly talk about their opinions, is it not? :D
@mariat.1442
@mariat.1442 5 років тому
Everything from the arguments and the analysis provided by those two brilliant pofessors, to the actors' performances was a real joy to witness. Dickens, Tolstoy, John Mullan, Simon Schama, Tom Hiddleston. What a spectacular combination of remarkable people. Thank you for sharing this!
@irEyERWO
@irEyERWO 5 років тому
Though I obviously came here for Tom Hiddleston, I was pleasantly surprised to see Julia Sawalha, who I knew from BBC's Pride and Prejudice.
@neptoon928
@neptoon928 3 роки тому
Aaah I knew she looked familiar
@19910601wsj
@19910601wsj 3 роки тому
Saw Tom Hiddleston on Broadway. Such a gentleman and absolutely charming.
@katearcher8514
@katearcher8514 5 років тому
It looks like Tom's had his own kind of catharsis and revelation after reading that bit about Pierre.
@EntertainmentOfGameAndWatch
@EntertainmentOfGameAndWatch 2 роки тому
Loki!
@mariasaiz501
@mariasaiz501 Рік тому
I came for Tom but Zawe is AMAZING!!!
@fanofmanythings7717
@fanofmanythings7717 5 років тому
This is one of the most intellectual videos I've ever seen, and one of the most British videos as well. Edit: At the end of each performance of both Dickens and Tolstoy I have come to the conclusion that I can not choose who is I guess better. They are both brilliant writers.
@elensila74
@elensila74 5 років тому
This battle was such an absolute privilege to watch in person. Thank you for the epic debate to the participants and for the fantastic entertainment to the actors. I am happy for the opportunity to watch this over and over again. :)
@vaibhavgupta20
@vaibhavgupta20 5 років тому
where did it take place? how much does it cost?
@Weronika-ev4gp
@Weronika-ev4gp 5 років тому
@@vaibhavgupta20 London, 30 pounds
@user-nh2vm3eb2x
@user-nh2vm3eb2x 5 років тому
I confess that I came here for Tom Hiddleston, but Julia Sawalha is so underrated
@barbarastrong1279
@barbarastrong1279 3 роки тому
So underrated!
@marshallzane7735
@marshallzane7735 4 роки тому
I was so happy when Hiddleston said Tolstoy was his favorite at the end
@annatamparow4917
@annatamparow4917 3 роки тому
Marshall Zane Quite disgraceful for someone who read Classics at university: Dostoyevsky, Turgenev and Gogol needed honourable mentions, too!
@callmeani6195
@callmeani6195 5 років тому
Kit Kingsley is such a great actor allready. I hope to see more of him as he grows up.
@cezarcaruntu
@cezarcaruntu 5 років тому
And the winner is... Dostoevsky.
@Kitsune-ld8ry
@Kitsune-ld8ry 4 роки тому
Exactly what I have thought)))
@annatamparow4917
@annatamparow4917 3 роки тому
Absolutely! His novels and Pushkin's works are the pinnacles of Russian literature!
@yevheniishyshko7961
@yevheniishyshko7961 3 роки тому
@@annatamparow4917 "You and Thou" is hilarious though.
@annle2515
@annle2515 3 роки тому
No he is not. Tolstoy is a complete winner.
@annle2515
@annle2515 3 роки тому
@wings of a butterfly have you ever read Tolstoy and Dostoevsky? I bet u never did. Probably you have heard somewhere about Dostoevsky so now u r just pretending that you have read it. Lol. You, with your walnut-sized brain are capable only of reading comic books for kids (well, I doubt even that).
@xxxRoseQueenxxx
@xxxRoseQueenxxx 4 роки тому
When books are read aloud the weight of emotion is so heavy and beautiful. It's like the sound of an old friend but with a new face.
@TheEsy1990
@TheEsy1990 5 років тому
I have to admit I've never read Tolstoy. After this debate I will definitely check him out. I love the debate and both gentlemen. They debated beautifully. The cast performed beautifully. I am grateful that this video was uploaded for us to watch.
@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq
@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq 5 років тому
First see movies - Anna Karenina and War and Peace. Tolstoy is Russian, and not Jewish writer and presenter did him disservice. Shama used stage to present his propaganda and not Tolstoy brilliance, In his introductory statement Shama said that he prefers Dickens to Tolstoy, so why he was selected to present Tolstoy?.
@TheEsy1990
@TheEsy1990 5 років тому
@@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq Thank you so much. I will definitely check out those movies.
@jennyrotten6354
@jennyrotten6354 5 років тому
emily yarbrough Anna Karenina! It’s wonderful
@1828tolstoy
@1828tolstoy 4 роки тому
Check out Resurection
@celestryrose6687
@celestryrose6687 2 роки тому
Maybe because I'm older I should try Anna Karenina again. I tried many times as a teen. I just couldnt get past the first part.
@jessalyngriswold5843
@jessalyngriswold5843 Рік тому
Watching this when it first came out, I’m not surprised Tom and Zawe became a couple. They have soo much chemistry here.
@followingthefire
@followingthefire Рік тому
There are pictures of Tom speaking to Zawe's father at this event, I'm convinced they were already dating especially if you look at pictures from them at a Pinter event a few weeks prior
@cassandraerdman7144
@cassandraerdman7144 5 років тому
Bleak House is one of the books by Dickens I actually enjoyed. But Tolstoy just resonates with me. I remember reading Anna Karenina in a Russian literature course at university and just being blown away at Tolstoy's ability to capture human emotion. Actually, all of the Russian writers are brilliant. Dostoevsky is my personal favorite. Chekhov gave us great plays and the awesome rule of writing now termed "Chekhov's gun." Turgenev is a lesser known writer who packs a powerful wallop in Fathers and Sons. I could go on.
@yasiradoluweera4693
@yasiradoluweera4693 5 років тому
Tolstoy of course
@sandjoons
@sandjoons 3 роки тому
Is that you in your profile picture?
@user-fm3ti6eg1d
@user-fm3ti6eg1d 3 роки тому
Let me just hug you, wonderful person!
@cassandraerdman7144
@cassandraerdman7144 3 роки тому
@@sandjoons Yeah, that's me with Tom.
@cassandraerdman7144
@cassandraerdman7144 3 роки тому
@@user-fm3ti6eg1d Sure, I'll take any digital hug! LOL
@aquarianlove1787
@aquarianlove1787 4 роки тому
I love Tom's and Zawe's chemistry.
@maggiemcfly5267
@maggiemcfly5267 2 роки тому
I'm pretty sure they love it too 😂😉
@MsJovi102
@MsJovi102 2 роки тому
@@maggiemcfly5267 LOL 😆
@indiesilverlady
@indiesilverlady 2 роки тому
Me too! Now they deservedly live happily ever after!💖 I feel they are made for each other especially when portraying flawlessly Pierre and Natasha in the reading of War and Peace!🥰👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 However, the paparazzi should leave them alone🙄😔
@eck2x
@eck2x 5 років тому
Tom Hiddleston is a National Treasure ❤️
@valka8355
@valka8355 5 років тому
Том Хиддлстон читает Толстого, нашу родную "Войну и мир", да ещё как читает! Что на свете может быть прекраснее?! *Реву от умиления*
@user-ef3yf9hk1w
@user-ef3yf9hk1w 3 роки тому
это Анна Каренина
@user-xx3el9eh8d
@user-xx3el9eh8d 3 роки тому
«Война и Мир» тоже были))).
@user-uc1cr5hp9n
@user-uc1cr5hp9n 3 роки тому
и Хаджи Мурат был нет ?
@elizabethhomer8035
@elizabethhomer8035 5 років тому
A "fog off"! Lol! Perfect! And I love watching Tom's face in the background as he watches the other performers.
@LadyDragoncat
@LadyDragoncat 5 років тому
You know you're a great actor, when you get "thumbs up" from Tom Hiddleston.
@NotSpockToo
@NotSpockToo 4 роки тому
If Tom ever decides to become a Professor of Classics (his degree) or Literature, I will move to whatever city he's teaching in and enroll in his classes!
@elirien4264
@elirien4264 5 років тому
Hiddles aside, that is, focusing on the conversation and not fan-girling, I realize that I much prefer Tolstoy's writing to Dickens.
@user-wn6gm7gg2r
@user-wn6gm7gg2r 5 років тому
But you cannot choose between the two authors because both are amazing. You just can't.
@wonka3209
@wonka3209 3 роки тому
You easily can. If you read their works properly and not engaging in demagogy.
@DinaraTengri
@DinaraTengri 4 роки тому
58:27 Tom is really feeling it.
@Lucia-1414
@Lucia-1414 2 роки тому
My teen son likes super heroes although he said “ boring” he continued watching as he was seeing Loki in a different way, great way to introduce classic to young generation. Brilliant
@selena-9841
@selena-9841 5 років тому
Oh wow I clicked because I saw Tom Hiddleston but it's midnight and this is 1 hour and a half long and he wants us to take care of ourselves so guess I'm getting a good night of sleep and watching this while I eat breakfast tomorrow
@soupsoupsoup1402
@soupsoupsoup1402 Рік тому
58:25 i think they just captured the moment tom fell in love with zawe🥺❤️❤️look at his bottom lip shivering seeing her so sad😭😍
@jabee7846
@jabee7846 Рік тому
Came here for Tom, but found Zawe. Grate job you guy's 👏👏👏👏all of you.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍
@elainagilbert7663
@elainagilbert7663 5 років тому
I loved that this debate was perfectly rational and both "opponents" not only liked both sides of the argument but liked each other. They were polite and convincing. I needed this passion to get me interested in reading either author again. I struggled with liking Dickens for a long time and Tolstoy was someone I keep picking up and giving up on. This is helpful to inspire me to continue through them.
@vaibhavgupta20
@vaibhavgupta20 5 років тому
that lady who is playing kitty a is very good actor.
@SJ-is2os
@SJ-is2os 5 років тому
And yet Zawe Ashton didn't move you enough to get her name. ;)
@vaibhavgupta20
@vaibhavgupta20 5 років тому
have seen her anywhere else?
@harlinaindra4899
@harlinaindra4899 5 років тому
She will play the wife of Tom Hiddleston's character in Hiddleston's next stage performance
@helenab9973
@helenab9973 5 років тому
I disagree, she didn't play Kitty well. If you read the book , Kitty is very young at that moment and her intonations should be more soft, and she should have more of aristocratic bearing. The actors performance and intonations are too modern and they fail to transmit the vibe of the Russian aristocrats.
@aprofessionalmemer2972
@aprofessionalmemer2972 5 років тому
I agree
@munmunsinha93
@munmunsinha93 5 років тому
Tom... Tom... Tom!!! 😍😍😍
@macklinillustration
@macklinillustration 5 років тому
I was in the audience for this, it was such an awesome night. Was a shame the ballot box came around before the debate was truly over. The reading & performance of Levin & Kitty's birth scene, I believe, was what swung it.
@May04bwu
@May04bwu 5 років тому
This just made me realize something. I never felt the need to fight for or defend my opinion when it comes to art I enjoy. So many people do this, especially these days online, but I feel quite content liking what I like and not having anyone giving me reasons why I am wrong to like that particular piece of art. It has become so normal for us to let strangers form our opinions and taste that this realization is almost liberating.
@Krishnamahali
@Krishnamahali 5 років тому
Tom Hiddleston is absolutely an excellent actor.
@danguolekrevskaja9440
@danguolekrevskaja9440 5 років тому
1:33:10 Tom : "Tolstoy " *mid finger for all Dickens'es * 😂
@hannahopstekop
@hannahopstekop 2 роки тому
ok but the little boy is amazingly talented! i was literally blown away!!
@UnoNumberOne
@UnoNumberOne 5 років тому
Attended for Tom Hiddleston, but the prospect of seeing Timothy West was a bonus. It was such an absolute joy to watch all the actors give amazing performances and to listen to intelligent people debate great literature. I'm a Dickens fan, but I loved watching Simon Schama, so charismatic. So happy that you filmed this so we can relive that wonderful evening.
@TheMoonlightMoods
@TheMoonlightMoods 2 роки тому
Came here for Tom, stayed for knowledge. Thank you so much for this content
@lolam4209
@lolam4209 5 років тому
Tom is talented as hell
@ealasaidfaye
@ealasaidfaye 3 роки тому
ikr it’s insane
@WendyWindsor
@WendyWindsor 5 років тому
30:33 Tom takes of his jacket. Not that anyone cares really...
@sounsure9108
@sounsure9108 5 років тому
WendyWindsor actually I just asked that above, thx I will watch whole thing though
@arbasali3476
@arbasali3476 5 років тому
thanks!
@Redorgreenful
@Redorgreenful 5 років тому
Not all heroes wears capes. Or jackets.
@shingtome2179
@shingtome2179 5 років тому
Anybody know the band of sweater/shirt he is wearing? It looks like absolutely swank!
@lifeofsahani
@lifeofsahani 3 роки тому
Omg I was searching the entire video for the moment he took his jacket off. I wish I had seen this comment before all the hardwork I did. XD
@robertporter6683
@robertporter6683 2 роки тому
Thank you for posting this. And thank you UKposts... for putting ads in the middle of the dramatic readings.
@Melanie-hm5dk
@Melanie-hm5dk 3 роки тому
Came for Tom and stayed for all these incredible actors and the stories
@fatimacnblue2068
@fatimacnblue2068 5 років тому
Tom ♥️
@JadeTheorist3942
@JadeTheorist3942 9 місяців тому
1:15:58 The way that Tom looks at Zawe and kisses her hand is adorable!!! I know that they are in character, but I feel Tom truly mean the loving words!!! 😍
@paulamusik2509
@paulamusik2509 3 роки тому
Dickens vs Tolstoy?! Two of my favorite authors in a battle?! Actors acting out scenes of their books?! I love EVERYTHING about this! (also the moderator is fantastic!)
@uzumakihana
@uzumakihana 5 років тому
I'm a Literature and Drama student, the talks and the plays are amazing and inspiring, also Tom Hiddleston is a bonus (I'm a huge fan)
@cu2524
@cu2524 4 роки тому
I never know Dickens and Tolstoy can be so alive. It is great to hear the actors and actresses do the read aloud. They’re all magnificent artists. If only my teacher did something like this in class, I’d have like their works more. As for Tom, I can see from his reaction that he’s really enjoy being there and listening to the enlightening debate between the 2 great professors.
@sahmdiaries
@sahmdiaries 5 років тому
I have never even read Tolstoy but as a millennial, I felt sooo drawn to the stores that these incredible actors showed, that I might just pick up one of his books and read.
@noobmaster-zq9su
@noobmaster-zq9su 3 роки тому
Zawe Ashton is such an amazing actress. Her work is incredible
@riamiosakilyrics
@riamiosakilyrics 5 років тому
I didn't even read the title I just saw Tom and clicked on it The internet knows what's it's doing!
@GIRLINA101
@GIRLINA101 3 роки тому
The young boy is so incredibly talented. I hope his parents protect him.
@twicebitten
@twicebitten 2 роки тому
It makes me incredibly happy to see Tom enjoy Tolstoy
@hopesy12u4
@hopesy12u4 5 років тому
15:10 when the host lady of the event realised that talent can be born on stage. xD the kid can ACT!
@musicloverlondon6070
@musicloverlondon6070 5 місяців тому
Great to see the admirable Bonnie Greer again. Wish she was on mainstream TV more. To watch a debate involving Bonnie, Tom Hiddleston and Simon Schama is great.
@ersteerste
@ersteerste 5 років тому
The whole debate was pure pleasure to listen and to watch! Thank you so much! p.s. with immense respect and gratitude from Russia.
@cindylithium
@cindylithium 5 років тому
There’s something so universal about that moment in War and Peace. Not only was it performed here, but also the final moment in the musical “Natasha, Pierre, and the great comet of 1812”. It was portrayed in the final moments of the musical as this beautiful duet and chorus.
@meldeleon236
@meldeleon236 2 роки тому
Clicked because I saw Tom on the thumbnail, but blown away by each of the actors! They're all great!
@kellicoffman8440
@kellicoffman8440 6 місяців тому
What a treat it truly is hard to chose between Dickens and Tolstoy. I love the humor and crazy names dickens comes up with. But the most moving moment is just Tom reading Tolstoy
@michellep6417
@michellep6417 2 роки тому
When Tom was speaking the camera cut to the audience and you could see all the women become hopeless romantics for him LOL
@michaelwu7678
@michaelwu7678 5 років тому
Why not Tolstoy vs. Dostoevsky? Would’ve been a better matchup in my opinion. Both were way more “serious” writers than Dickens.
@iloveh2omermaids
@iloveh2omermaids 5 років тому
Michael Wu I see what you’re saying; however, I think that what makes this a more fascinating debate is the differences between Dickens and Tolstoy. Perhaps one is more serious, perhaps one is less so. But the point is not to compare two similar styles, but to dive into which of the two very different styles has a longer lasting or more impactful legacy. That’s what makes the debate even more challenging and thus more interesting.
@michaelwu7678
@michaelwu7678 5 років тому
Amanda Marie Thank you for the comment; I agree with you. However, I am more interested in the question of who SHOULD have a longer and more impactful legacy. And I think that concerning the improvement of personal morals, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky are more relevant and thus more deserving of debate. What do you think? Edit: I’m not saying that Dickens is shallow or anything like that. He is very penetrating in terms of social issues.
@mrRnf11
@mrRnf11 5 років тому
If you think Tolstoy is more "serious" than Dickens, you haven't read enough Dickens.
@michaelwu7678
@michaelwu7678 5 років тому
Julian Perhaps they are both equally serious. But I still think Tolstoy explores deeper topics with a grander scope, such as the philosophy of war and history in the later chapters of War and Peace. I know this is cherry picking but the Encyclopedia Brittanica says “It can be argued that no single English novel attains the universality of the Russian writer Leo Tolstoy’s War and Peace.” www.britannica.com/art/English-literature
@michaelwu7678
@michaelwu7678 5 років тому
Just Getting By I don’t see your point. Harriet Beecher Stowe also left an everlasting legacy, but to say that Uncle Tom’s Cabin is a supreme work of world literature would be ridiculous.
@Persnikity-yv3nh
@Persnikity-yv3nh 5 років тому
Ah yes, a good old-fashioned Fog Off.
@SkittyBlackfire
@SkittyBlackfire 5 років тому
+
@nanditamondal1033
@nanditamondal1033 5 років тому
In my personal opinion, Dickens is good at expressing emotions when Tolstoy is a philosopher who can show more of the reality by thoughts. To say easily, Dickens is heart when Tolstoy is mind. I think common people admire Dickens when critics' vote will go for The Russian legend. But both are individually incredible in their own fields what makes them "immortal" in the history of literature.
@wonka3209
@wonka3209 3 роки тому
And Dickens has an impeccable sense of humor which always turns a writer to some kind of oracle. As it was with Moliere and Mark Twain. Leo Tolstoy on the other hand was an explorer and his contribution to the Russian 1812 war history is outstanding.
@sherriburns9746
@sherriburns9746 3 роки тому
I agree...dickens appealed to the hearts
@arielle172
@arielle172 2 роки тому
I came here for Tom but I stayed out of my curiosity and amazement of this debate. I dont know much about older literature, but this is great. It makes me feel smart lol
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