Did Jesus Actually Exist? | Joe Rogan & Michelle Dowd

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Michelle Dowd is the author of "Forager: Field Notes on Surviving a Family Cult," revealing her life growing up on an isolated mountain within an apocalyptic cult, and how she found her way out by gleaning strength from the wilderness.
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@TheseEndlessNights
@TheseEndlessNights 10 днів тому
I’m An atheist and I’ll be the first to say that this woman knows absolutely nothing about the Bible or Christianity. She’s conflating everything together and misunderstanding a lot.
@_profectus
@_profectus 9 днів тому
The entire Bible is literally subjective interpretations over hundreds of years lol
@chuckdawit
@chuckdawit 8 днів тому
I'm not watching her for the intellectual reasons
@Iamrightyouarewrong
@Iamrightyouarewrong 7 днів тому
how do you know if you know nothing about the bible or Christianity?
@TheseEndlessNights
@TheseEndlessNights 6 днів тому
@@Iamrightyouarewrong ? I know plenty about the Bible and Christianity. Your question is a straw man.
@aureum7479
@aureum7479 День тому
⁠@@IamrightyouarewrongOp knows more than Michelle which isn’t saying much
@bitkower
@bitkower 10 днів тому
What?! The name Mary comes etymologically from the Hebrew name Miriam. It doesn't mean woman.
@JMartini810
@JMartini810 8 днів тому
Leave it to a woman to say an important name from the Bible is woman.....
@powerguymark
@powerguymark 10 днів тому
She's combining two different Bible stories. Jesus spoke about casting pearls to swine but that doesn't have anything to do with the story of The prodigal son.
@shadforthw3535
@shadforthw3535 9 днів тому
Yeah I thought that was strange.... It's simple dont try to tell the gospel to somebody who is unwilling to listen. Your time is precious... Jesus says this about casting pearls before swine in Matthew 7:6
@charcoalgray2401
@charcoalgray2401 6 днів тому
Also, she said something about maybe you get blessed more if you go out into the world and live a life of partying, sex, etc.... but I'm pretty sure it's the repenting and coming back to the Father that's the key...not the LEAVING that brings the extra blessings. 🤔
@charcoalgray2401
@charcoalgray2401 6 днів тому
The lesson here is: read the Bible for yourself so you know when someone is wrong or making up stuff.
@freshoutofprison
@freshoutofprison 3 дні тому
Key word is "story" Its just stories from a fictional novel
@aureum7479
@aureum7479 День тому
@@freshoutofprisonHistorical evidence isn’t fiction ?
@JMartini810
@JMartini810 8 днів тому
This is what happens when people who have NO IDEA wtf they're talking about just SOUND like they do.... Its dangerous
@dolyharianto
@dolyharianto 4 дні тому
Michelle was speaking willy-nilly almost like a drunkard or high on weed and Joe Rogan being an atheist, encouraged and supported her, diluting the parables as written in the Bible and their true meanings.
@aduncaroo
@aduncaroo 10 днів тому
Geez. I don’t usually become dumber during his podcasts, but I could actually feel it happening during this clip
@1971rth
@1971rth 7 днів тому
Bahahaha, so true.
@SpringShower-lz2bn
@SpringShower-lz2bn 11 днів тому
Alll I know is when i started reading the bibe. My life Ignited Incredibly 😮and great great things, experiences and people were placed on my path. LIVING A GLORIOUS LIFE
@liamseekins9488
@liamseekins9488 8 днів тому
Good for you but many people feel the same believing in different things
@GeorgeZimmermen
@GeorgeZimmermen 3 дні тому
Stop the cap!
@mattappleton3399
@mattappleton3399 13 днів тому
Joe needs to have Voddie Baucham on. His mind would be blown.
@JosephLee706
@JosephLee706 12 днів тому
The most written about human being in history he even changed time A.D. ,B.C. of course he was real.. the reason people don't want to believe in God is not a lack evidence it's because they just don't want to obey...
@thegulch1780
@thegulch1780 12 днів тому
If the Lord wanted us to "obey", we wouldn't have brains. Well, I should say brains beyond a parrot 🦜 There are great messages in there, it's been translated dozens of times - it happens to fit your lifestyle, yet go back to understand the original writings Why did they go to such lengths to bury scrolls and leave certain writings out that were included in the Original Scripture? Wouldn't it be logical that Satan try to take over the church? Do we need to hear it from a movie that the greatest trick the devil ever played on humans was pretending he doesn't exist. Satan lives in The souls of pathetic men. Look at the world Pathetic Obey? We had God-given brains before our gender was determined. Men are supposed to be protectors and providers? Yet we have a children's menu at Hooters that's keeping our boys preoccupied with protecting their own, Letting boys wearing dresses into their mothers, wives, daughters public restrooms 🤔 while everybody's all up in arms about the Ukraine? We're is sending strong Christian soldiers to save the world, who are ,"obeying" while our own front yards are literally turning to trash.
@cbonnici
@cbonnici 11 днів тому
He changed time? Seriously? Thank the Romans for that. Funny you call him the most written about human being yet no one wrote about him in his lifetime lol And please stop with your christian god centric views on EVERYONE else, we don't care about your god, nor do we care about Vishnu, Odin, Ahura Mazda, Joe Pesci, etc.
@buzztripdream
@buzztripdream 11 днів тому
Amen it's all about JESUS. Life is all about JESUS , His Salvation, and loving .
@matthewhudson5685
@matthewhudson5685 10 днів тому
Most written ABOUT. There are ~#32,000 TOTAL written words ascribed to Jesus. Many are just conjunctions, adjectives, etc. Many thoughts or parables are repeated in the Gospels. So you ultimately end up with about 10,000 words with direct meaning. The average speaker says from 100- 200 words per minute. So you end up with about 100 minutes of Jesus actually speaking. 2-3 hours being generous. That's a small lecture.
@JosephLee706
@JosephLee706 10 днів тому
@matthewhudson5685 I said the most written about person, NOT the person who wrote the most.. meaning he is the person other people have written about the most. As for how much of his ministry is written down it doesn't matter. Quality over quantity you don't have to say the most to have the biggest impact.. L.ron Hubbard for example you know how much he wrote?? Answer a whole bunch all of it nonsense.. you get what am saying??
@steann1
@steann1 13 днів тому
The Jesus guy in Australia used to be a Jehovah’s Witness… go figure..
@christophernash8166
@christophernash8166 10 днів тому
I use to be an educated Christian pastor and what made me leave the faith was the moral contradictions of the Bible along with other contradictions. Jesus said vaguely in Matthew 5 that the Old Testament God was evil and yet he also said that everything the Old Testament God said was perfect and moral. But, the Old Testament God demand genocide against even babies (Psalms 137:8-9 and dozen more passages), was for slavery (Exodus 21:21), said women who are not married have to marry their rapists (Deuteronomy 20-24), and blessed Moses and his followers who were pedophiles (Numbers 31:17-18). In Matthew 5:33-37 is where Jesus says making oaths is of the Evil One, but in the Old Testament God encouraged oaths.
@johngoldsworthy7135
@johngoldsworthy7135 10 днів тому
You’re lost bud
@michaelandrews4783
@michaelandrews4783 5 днів тому
Thats because its all bullshit
@TheKavorka1
@TheKavorka1 13 днів тому
Actually scholars say the earliest, the Gospel of Mark, was written 30 years after Jesus.
@CodChase
@CodChase 12 днів тому
Yes. It was well under 100 years. From what I understand, The Gospel of John was the last entry and they say it was around 70AD(40 years after Jesus' death). That being said the Gospels(Good News) and the facts of Jesus' life were spread via oration and traveling missionaries immediately. What was being said and spread was then written down a few years later.
@korbendallas12
@korbendallas12 11 днів тому
Yea there is some badly researched things in the video.Luke was written by Luke....he talked to people who walked with Christ including those who saw him after death.Luke also wrote Acts.Most Bible scholars accept Luke wrote his gospel and Acts,Mark was written by an understudy of Peter 30 to 35 years after Christ left earth....and numerous writtings by Paul are less than 50 years from when Christ left the earth. Folks can believe or not believe what's being said in them...but it's pointless to try and debate those facts at this point.
@Byorin
@Byorin 11 днів тому
⁠@@korbendallas12What do you mean its pointless to debate these “facts?” We don’t even know for sure if Jesus actually existed and the authorship of Luke is still seen as questionable. Thats the whole point of all this research and continuing efforts in archaeology.
@korbendallas12
@korbendallas12 11 днів тому
@@Byorin No legit Biblical scholar and that includes non Christians debate that Jesus never existed they all agree Jesus existed...and I can list numerous names.It's pointless to debate that unless someone just wants to be ignorant on the subject. They've found not one but two archaeological finds in Israel the last 5 years that date to about 40 to 60 AD that quotes from Luke and even says "the word from Luke"or Lūqās was the name used which means Luke in english.By the way...one of the finds was made by a Jewish archaeologist...the other was an athiest so not even found by those of the faith. It's very high odds Luke wrote his gospel and Acts.Luke's gospel is actually letters he's writing to another Jew about what all he's finding out from talking to other people.
@Jeffthedude15
@Jeffthedude15 10 днів тому
There are scholars that are debating that now, actually. These are scholars who lost their beliefs in the text we have now after they've translated more accurately. It's hard to know what the actual truth is these days.
@Jarhead1968
@Jarhead1968 12 днів тому
I love Joe but this is two people who literally know nothing about the Bible and don’t seem to want to learn. Nothing more nothing less.
@DavidLorango
@DavidLorango 10 днів тому
bingo
@isaiahernandez4826
@isaiahernandez4826 10 днів тому
The Bible is written in code.
@IloveDoubleD
@IloveDoubleD 7 днів тому
Most likely a myth. Emperor Constantine and the council of Nicaea were pretty smart for their time. I can see the reason for the cult development as having every one praying to separate deities was or were not likely creating a very unified society. Getting everyone on the same page would have be a step forward. The ignorance of the time is pretty amazing, they didn't even know what bacteria was or that we were on a planet orbiting a star. That people still want to follow these 2000 year old stories is amazing, seems we (or some people) wish to remain ignorant.
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li 7 днів тому
Every thing from nothing Bacteria designing every thing That's science fiction
@IloveDoubleD
@IloveDoubleD 6 днів тому
@@Gavin-qh7li No one claims bacteria designed anything. That humans can't and probably never will be able to know how the universe was created doesn't mean a deity had anything to do with it. Since humans can only fathom a linear existence, what created your god?
@mitchy3438
@mitchy3438 10 днів тому
We know what they said, we know what they ate, we know where they lived. Read the Bible we know all of these things about Jesus. This woman really is off on her research and timing. The funny thing is if the Bible was found on a scroll by the Dead Sea Joe would be like isn’t this crazy! Wow! They were not written 100 yrs after death.
@soapboxearth2
@soapboxearth2 8 днів тому
If he didn't exist, contemporary Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wouldn't have written about him.
@liamseekins9488
@liamseekins9488 8 днів тому
This is your opinion not fact you can have true peace without believing in jesus
@soapboxearth2
@soapboxearth2 8 днів тому
@liamseekins9488 opinion? He litterally wrote about him. That's not opinion lol
@sjw4life546
@sjw4life546 12 днів тому
I believe Jesus was a historical figure who, like many prophets of the time, believed he was the son of God. He led a very successful movement that got him killed and made a matyr. His followers understood that in order to make the movement he led stand the test of time, they had to turn him into a mythical superhero. So that's when he was given the power to walk on water and turn water into wine and heal the sick, come back from the dead, etc. So future sheep can say cool, i want to be a part of that flock.
@nilocnaughton
@nilocnaughton 13 днів тому
joe is not a story teller, he is the ultimate pupil. taking in information and digesting it on a real level.
@liamseekins9488
@liamseekins9488 8 днів тому
He has good stories sometimes though
@camwatters644
@camwatters644 5 днів тому
There was possibly a person named Jesus at some point that rebelled against the Roman’s. Then people made up some foolish bullshit about him walking on water and coming back to life.
@kirtantodur
@kirtantodur 13 днів тому
I wonder what would happen if Joe and his friends tried to deconstruct quran or bagawad gita? Just wondering.
@GeorgeZimmermen
@GeorgeZimmermen 3 дні тому
💣💣💣💣💣
@seemercury7371
@seemercury7371 16 годин тому
we have all sinned and the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus John 316
@stephennicholas1590
@stephennicholas1590 10 днів тому
Pontius Pilate (Latin: Pontius Pilatus; Greek: Πόντιος Πιλᾶτος, Pontios Pilatos) was the fifth governor of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius from 26/27 to 36/37 AD. He is best known for being the official who presided over the trial of Jesus and ultimately ordered his crucifixion. Nobody denies Pontius Pilate existed.
@aaron-ooog-5757
@aaron-ooog-5757 12 днів тому
Jesus Christ is the only way
@darkerthanblack500
@darkerthanblack500 9 днів тому
Joker
@toomuchsalt13
@toomuchsalt13 3 дні тому
Yeah, and Santa is real 😂
@rillihi697
@rillihi697 7 годин тому
Trump is the only way
@aaron-ooog-5757
@aaron-ooog-5757 7 годин тому
@@rillihi697 👍
@aaron-ooog-5757
@aaron-ooog-5757 7 годин тому
@@toomuchsalt13 love CHRISTmas time
@ralphcosta4112
@ralphcosta4112 12 днів тому
If Jesus were to come today, and his apostles were to create a UKposts channel broadcasting his teachings, messages, miracles, and finally, his resurrection, there would still be skeptics in the future, whether 100 or 1,000 years later, if the world still exists. These skeptics might argue that the videos were created using AI. For those of us who have felt the love of God and Jesus and experienced his presence in our lives, there is no doubt about his existence. We desire for everyone to enjoy his grace. Sometimes, we share our experiences within our circles, and occasionally, our experiences help change someone else's life. It's true that some who believe in Jesus may lose their way and commit horrendous mistakes. However, these human failings do not alter the reality of his existence and his grace.
@liamseekins9488
@liamseekins9488 8 днів тому
This is your opinion not fact you can have true peace without believing in jesus
@ralphcosta4112
@ralphcosta4112 8 днів тому
@@liamseekins9488 Yes, that is my opinion. Let's apply some logic. If we assume that God exists and communicates with humans, and someone captures a video of this interaction, it wouldn't automatically convince everyone of His existence. There would still be skeptics, and some might even conduct scientific research without reaching definitive conclusions. This hypothetical scenario with facts creates an impossible paradox, leading us to conclude that the only way to prove or disprove God's existence is through personal experiences, which then become opinions.
@randalljaeger
@randalljaeger 5 днів тому
Once you have been truly saved and given a new heart and have an overwhelming feeling of gratitude that Jesus is with you, you are not concerned about a story in the Bible being 100% true, or if Jesus is real. Before being saved you can easily be distracted, hearing lots of opinions from others to keep you away from salvation. I pray that Joe Rogen finds his way to Jesus, and then can help many others to do the same.🙏
@alstewart6870
@alstewart6870 9 днів тому
Joe, here’s a fact to consider….the 4 Gospels were written as early as 35 years after Jesus death. Julius Ceaser wasn’t written about until 125 years after his death. And yet no one ever says Julius never existed…..
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
We also don't have a worldwide cult worshipping Caesar. He just inspired some tasty salad and bad haircuts, lol.
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li 7 днів тому
​@@thegentlelivingchannelyou don't know what a Cult is. Your sarcasm is appalling
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 6 днів тому
@@Gavin-qh7li who's being sarcastic, lol? Religions are all cults. And Jesus never existed so it's a cult around a fairy tale. I find that repulsive.
@commentator-qp9im
@commentator-qp9im 10 днів тому
”There is no any scholar in college or university in the Western world who teaches classics, ancient history, new testament, early Christianity, or any related field, who doubts that Jesus existed” -Bart Ehrman, agnostic scholar. I think Rogan should consult actual experts regarding the issue.
@johngoldsworthy7135
@johngoldsworthy7135 10 днів тому
BART Erhman is atheist, not ‘agnostic’
@commentator-qp9im
@commentator-qp9im 10 днів тому
@@johngoldsworthy7135According to himself, he is both.
@markwillingham5343
@markwillingham5343 8 днів тому
@@johngoldsworthy7135all agnostics are atheist , not all atheist are agnostic
@Brometheus.
@Brometheus. 8 днів тому
When Joe had that professor of religion on not long ago he stayed real quiet when the shroud of Turin came up. He pushed back then she pushed back and that was it. Was very disappointing because I think that would have been a great topic to talk about longer and Joe obviously knows a lot about it and once he got pushed back on the medieval cloth test he never pushed back
@snakeplissken3063
@snakeplissken3063 7 днів тому
"The Lost Tomb of Jesus" is a documentary about some archeologists who claim to have found Jesus' tomb. It's an interesting documentary.
@joevigilante2073
@joevigilante2073 13 днів тому
Her ways of explaining the ancient beliefs is actually refreshing
@Disinfo321
@Disinfo321 13 днів тому
Probably not.
@glasslady2000md
@glasslady2000md 13 днів тому
She knows nothing about the Bible!!!
@PepeSmuggins
@PepeSmuggins 12 днів тому
😂😂😂 yea ok
@mtpta4947
@mtpta4947 9 днів тому
Research her background she's been through stuff.I agree she doesn't seem well versed but an accurate view of the Bible was taken from her.
@evanskip1
@evanskip1 9 днів тому
I disagree with you!
@GeorgeZimmermen
@GeorgeZimmermen 3 дні тому
And you know it all I assume?
@johnbollinger6080
@johnbollinger6080 10 днів тому
The planet Venus was also known as Mary,and in the sign of Virgo,she's the virgin Mary.
@Supershamwow02
@Supershamwow02 13 днів тому
Ignatius the patriarch quoted 25 of the 27 new testament books in 110AD. Jesus died anywhere from 30 A.D to 35 A.D. So where is she getting the premise that the gospels were written a hundred years after Jesus died?
@PoopyThaGod
@PoopyThaGod 13 днів тому
Who cares.
@thedog7494
@thedog7494 13 днів тому
@@PoopyThaGod everyone but you
@PoopyThaGod
@PoopyThaGod 13 днів тому
@@thedog7494 the majority of the world gives two fucks about Jesus or any topic related to Jesus. So not just me.
@RaidersRants
@RaidersRants 13 днів тому
Because ur not thinking with correct information ur not understanding because ur holding onto "false facts."
@thedog7494
@thedog7494 12 днів тому
@@PoopyThaGod America is not the whole world buddy
@DeanstuD
@DeanstuD 9 днів тому
The son who stayed at home and refused to come to the table is the lost one
@chrisitandasta8917
@chrisitandasta8917 12 днів тому
This is why you don't take bible classes from a person who read the bible once at 8 years old. Eve translates to woman. Adam to man. How do you mix up Eve with Mary
@britpoppansy
@britpoppansy 7 днів тому
I don't know why it never occurred to Joe that the forces that be might do their best to scrub a lot of the evidence of Jesus. Just a thought. Let's go look in the vaults of the Vatican for instance...that would certainly be interesting...
@buzztripdream
@buzztripdream 12 днів тому
JESUS Forever 🙌🙌🙌
@pornneliushubbard1967
@pornneliushubbard1967 10 днів тому
Say Santa Claus forever, Easter bunny forever too. All then never existed
@bsting601
@bsting601 10 днів тому
Odin forever!
@Youve_GotABeard
@Youve_GotABeard 10 днів тому
Don’t cast pearls before swine means be aware about giving something of value to someone who doesn’t have the knowledge or virtue to treasure or appreciate it. Pigs will eat any and everything. If you put priceless pearls before them they won’t know the difference, so you will waste the intrinsic value of the thing you’re giving. Lordy lord, are people really this empty headed today. The fact of this teaching becomes easily self evident with a little bit of self knowledge and spiritual insight.
@calvincraft2580
@calvincraft2580 9 днів тому
He still does.Remember I AM, you'll see Him i the fullness of time!
@user-dy8fz1gv7u
@user-dy8fz1gv7u 10 днів тому
Hate when people say their interpretation of the Bible instead of reading the actual Bible
@izegaegbe
@izegaegbe 10 днів тому
Sorry, but, The first gospel written about Jesus was about 40 years after.
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
Most people didn't live that long, lol. So you're still talking about fiction.
@izegaegbe
@izegaegbe 9 днів тому
@@thegentlelivingchannel Not fiction! Verification came with the correlation with other books who were of different sources. Now you need to remember that Jesus' existence wasn't a big deal back then because he was seen as a prophet at most and a teacher at least, but to the authorities he stood against, he was nothing more of a nuisance that they promptly did away with. The problem was his popularity increased after his death. So much so that it threatened the authorities at the time. They had no problem with his existence. If he was fictional, who created him? And this fictional character was so powerful that the almighty Roman empire saw his followers became a massive threat years after his death. Please tell me, what fictional character would have so much power over people to the point that they're ready to allow themselves to be killed in the most horrifying ways. Lastly, his 12 apostles were no doubt real
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
@@izegaegbe FICTION, lol. Just a retelling of the exact same story used as mythology hundreds to thousands of years prior. Who created him? The J*ws, and it perfectly quelled an impending uprising at the time. They created a pacifist "messiah" and kept those who were planning a revolt in line. WAKE UP. People are intensely stupid and cults are VERY easy to create, package and sell. It's all fake.
@commentator-qp9im
@commentator-qp9im 9 днів тому
@@thegentlelivingchannelIf we follow that kind of logic, then almost everything in history is fiction, and we would know nothing about it. There were eyewitnesses still alive when the first gospel was written.
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
@@commentator-qp9im lol, no, there weren't. And now you're getting it, sunshine, lol. Much of "recorded history" is bs. And Jesus is a myth.
@TheTomryan123
@TheTomryan123 5 днів тому
Why is he interviewing her? She has the speech patterns and inflections of a 12 year old, and the knowledge of a 14 year old.
@johncagno2826
@johncagno2826 12 днів тому
Not for anything, if I feed hundreds of people with a fish and some wine thousands of people would know about it. Only handful of people spoke of it. Yeah Right !!
@retardedvaxxedliberal
@retardedvaxxedliberal 5 днів тому
“University of Jewry”
@user-it9vs3vq2z
@user-it9vs3vq2z 13 днів тому
Jesus is a different kind of story than the rest of the bible though. I don't agree that it's a "how to live your life" story. that's the old testament. It's more like Socrates. It's not the same as the Jewish a religion. It's written in greek too. I think they piggy back Judaism onto it just because of race. Socrates claimed to have divination and a Daemon telling him what to do. Socrates drinking the hemlock is not telling you how to live your life or trying to be a lawyer or ruler. He's a philosopher. Jesus is claiming divination. His death is not political or a suicide bombing or conquest for property or israel. Socrates isn't trying to teach history or be a historical figure. Now they use it as a reason for "christian" countries to be involved in Israel. It doesn't make sense like that. you don't need Greece to follow a Socratic method just like you don't need it for euclidean geometry.
@mtpta4947
@mtpta4947 9 днів тому
Jesus is a continuation of where the OT leaves off.Malachi ends on a cliffhanger note.
@DannyDusse
@DannyDusse 3 дні тому
This woman is either intentionally lying or doesn't know what she's talking about. The lesson of "The Prodigal Son" isn't related to the "Pearls" parable at all and blatantly states that the father is grateful because his son was dead and is now alive. If you think the interpretation of that is "you can do what you want," you probably should read about the Pharisees and Job.
@carsondyle1793
@carsondyle1793 13 днів тому
The Resurrection was witnessed by two women and believed. A woman’s word at the time held less weight than a slave. Something to think about.
@wer227
@wer227 13 днів тому
you're hilarious :DD
@nunyabusiness3666
@nunyabusiness3666 13 днів тому
Many people witnessed it. Many people wrote about it at different times and locations and their stories all jive.
@bsting601
@bsting601 12 днів тому
@@nunyabusiness3666 🤣🤣🤣
@PepeSmuggins
@PepeSmuggins 12 днів тому
As it should....as it should
@matthewbollack7278
@matthewbollack7278 13 днів тому
Nobody even knows if matthew, mark, luke, and john wrote matthew, mark, luke, and john
@atjazzman
@atjazzman 13 днів тому
Yes we do, they did not exist.
@donaldjohnson-wn6ps
@donaldjohnson-wn6ps 12 днів тому
If you apply that requirement of proof out to everything, you realize that nothing is provable. We have writings about a guy named Abe Lincoln, statues of him, writings claiming to be from him, but do I actually know if he existed? My claim of knowing with certainty is based on whatever everyone else believes. The Abe Lincoln guy could be a myth that just has been covered in more books. Even if I had been alive during that time and met him, I would only know that I met a guy who told me his name is Abe Lincoln.
@josemejia9349
@josemejia9349 12 днів тому
@@donaldjohnson-wn6ps no known text exists that is attributed to John.
@JosephLee706
@JosephLee706 12 днів тому
@josemejia9349 the bible is the most historically accurate book, most sold, most stolen, most critiqued/ studied most powerful life changing book ever.. and still stands.. everything in it has been proven time and time again.. the only reason people don't believe it is because they don't want to obey it that's all it comes down to.. ain't nobody been able to or will be able to disprove it..
@josemejia9349
@josemejia9349 12 днів тому
@@JosephLee706 it’s not historicaly accurate but it is very popular. Scientifically incorrect when calculating the earths age and such. IT’s Spiritual, not historical. While some events in the Bible can be verified, one does not consider the Bible as a historical reference text. Instead, look for primary documents and archaeological evidence as better sources of historical events than the Bible
@garypieratt2452
@garypieratt2452 7 днів тому
Mathew mark and john were with Jesus. Luke came later. Paul didn’t see a ghost of Jesus. He saw a glorified Jesus. Resurrected.
@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS
@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS 10 днів тому
Basically he not real. 😂
@ScubaDiverPicker
@ScubaDiverPicker 6 днів тому
Actually he is real. He’s mentioned in every major religious book. This woman was 1000% wrong in everything she said. Two people who never read the bible speaking about the bible isn’t education.
@chrissmith4025
@chrissmith4025 9 днів тому
70yrs after his death and historians wright about him from beginning of time of you are Muslim or Jewish plus many more
@johnsambo9379
@johnsambo9379 11 днів тому
The writings for Jesus are much earlier to his death than Muhammad. So you can't believe in Muhammad if you don't believe in Jesus.
@kevinkeener3685
@kevinkeener3685 6 днів тому
Im a Christian you have to faith! Every thing iso diluted!
@Virgilioo
@Virgilioo 4 дні тому
How do u know Jesus is god tho?
@JT883
@JT883 5 днів тому
She is really really unknowledgeable about the Bible and it shows.
@KOsDad0921
@KOsDad0921 8 днів тому
If Jesus is mentioned in every holy book and is said to be a prophet or teacher or another Buddha and considered to be a way and in his book is the only way I think Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the light
@liamseekins9488
@liamseekins9488 8 днів тому
This is your opinion not fact you can have true peace without believing in jesus. You can find truth and light without ever believing in him
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li 6 днів тому
​@@liamseekins9488no you can't you only think you can your flesh is lying to you. Ask me how I know
@justinball5068
@justinball5068 8 днів тому
60-70 years gospel of Mark
@uprebel5150
@uprebel5150 13 днів тому
Joe needs to read the actual Bible. Probably should start with the Gospel of John.
@jamesmock2109
@jamesmock2109 13 днів тому
They Always Say Start With The Book Of John How About Starting From Genesis
@CovntFapula-uc1gl
@CovntFapula-uc1gl 13 днів тому
Oh yes, take the word of Zealots who champion this particular topic. " We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves correct". Pathetic.
@uprebel5150
@uprebel5150 13 днів тому
@@jamesmock2109You are correct and Jesus is present in both Books. However, it's hard for new Christians sometimes to start believing the Book of Genesis when they have been told their whole lives that it is a fairy tale. Plus, who can get through the Book of Leviticus without reading The Gospel first? It's the work of the Holy Spirit that counts the most.
@jamesmock2109
@jamesmock2109 13 днів тому
@@uprebel5150 I'll Give You Thumbs Up But I Disagree Start With Creation Learn About Abraham, Issac and Jacob There Are Many Study Bibles With Inserts
@minjikim2161
@minjikim2161 13 днів тому
Someone gave me a bible, threw it somewhere
@seangoodwin8048
@seangoodwin8048 12 днів тому
He still exists
@bsting601
@bsting601 10 днів тому
🤣 Sure 🤣
@sarahpersonalexcellenceguide
@sarahpersonalexcellenceguide 12 днів тому
The Bible doesn't mean what people think it means. The Jesus story teaches you to become "Christ-like" (Aka: conscious.) You "die" figuratively and "return" changed. (Just like the Pagan mystery schools had taught long before Christianity.) To "enter the kingdom of heaven" is to become conscious. Awakened. Aware. But that's hard to see when early heterodox church killed off the Cathars and others who held the keys to unlock the metaphors. Now everyone takes the Bible literally because no one remembers the higher level MEANINGS.
@Tbone.357
@Tbone.357 12 днів тому
Exactly the reason why there are hundreds and thousands of religions and denominations. Interpretations vary and people can come up with whatever they want from the text. Just like you did. 🙄
@mtpta4947
@mtpta4947 9 днів тому
Hi Sarah I personally think the NT is continuing where the ending of the OT(Malachi end off of) I do agree with things like The Kingdom of God is within you but mostly I think the Bible is speaking very literal in the way it's trying to communicate.
@tayche1
@tayche1 13 днів тому
her information is pretty inaccurate I’m surprised how comfortable she is just throwing random bullshit out on a podcast this big…
@cosmegonzalez
@cosmegonzalez 8 днів тому
I think this isn't the best guest for this discussion.
@TheFredos14
@TheFredos14 13 днів тому
Christ is king. A lot going on in the world. Wouldn't be a bad idea to get close to Jesus. Follow his commandments. Ask the spirit for guidance. Forgive others.
@rooster4906
@rooster4906 12 днів тому
John 20 : 26-29 26 And after eight days his disciples were inside again, and Thomas with them. The door was closed, and Jesus came, stood in the middle and said: "Peace be with you!" 27 Then Tomi will say: "Bring your finger here and look at my hands!" Bring your hand and put it in my side and do not be unfaithful but faithful." 28 Thomas answered him: "My Lord and my God!" 29 Jesus said to him: »Because you saw me, you believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe!"
@scottb6382
@scottb6382 16 годин тому
Bring cliffe on. Please
@maccarnold
@maccarnold 10 днів тому
This guy likes to talk about Jesus but not with the correct people. Why doesn’t he invite people like William Lane Craig, Gary Habermas, John Lennox or Frank Turek? It is because he doesn’t want the truth.
@brendaguffey1655
@brendaguffey1655 12 днів тому
Jesus wants me to turn my life over to him why should I when he has never been there for me or answer any of my prayers
@jacksonlittle5993
@jacksonlittle5993 7 днів тому
"Virgin birth" That's just not how any of this works.
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li 6 днів тому
Virgin or not Jesus still fulfilled the Old Testament prohecys. So that's of little importance.
@williamdavis9524
@williamdavis9524 2 дні тому
Joe your better than this,read Lee Strobel.
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 9 днів тому
Your expert admittedly isn't an expert and also factually gets everything wrong.
@Funboi68
@Funboi68 12 днів тому
According to the Roman documents found Yes a man named Jesus was executed by crucifixion happened
@skrilla.scratch
@skrilla.scratch 12 днів тому
Citation please
@johngoldsworthy7135
@johngoldsworthy7135 10 днів тому
Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Flavius Josephus. All independent non-Christian sources confirming his existence
@MikefromQueens
@MikefromQueens 10 днів тому
At the end of the day. Who cares. Live your life.
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 9 днів тому
Joe, have an actual Bible scholar on the show and then draw your conclusions. This person knows nothing. Name one of the "facts" she brought up here concerning the Bible that you'd like to debate.
@antoviamonte3429
@antoviamonte3429 2 дні тому
He’ll never have anyone who’s biblically literate on the show because they’d make him look stupid. Love Joe but when it comes to Christianity he spews nothing but nonsense, it’s clear he has never studied at all.
@notabannedaccount8362
@notabannedaccount8362 3 дні тому
No.
@mattiethesurfer
@mattiethesurfer 8 днів тому
Willing to bet a week’s salary that this woman (perhaps Joe for that matter) are never critical of Islam and their Quran. I wonder why.
@krazysane
@krazysane 12 днів тому
the bible is my favorite science fiction book
@fuzzy-one-z7205
@fuzzy-one-z7205 13 днів тому
SMH
@freshoutofprison
@freshoutofprison 3 дні тому
"people are full of shit" end of story
@Grimreke
@Grimreke 7 днів тому
😂😂😂 coming after Putin revealed to us he was black
@pornneliushubbard1967
@pornneliushubbard1967 10 днів тому
No where in the Bible the describes how Jesus looks. Goes to show y’all believe anything
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li 6 днів тому
The Shroud of Turin gives some insight about what Jesus looked like
@pornneliushubbard1967
@pornneliushubbard1967 6 днів тому
I said the Bible. Is that the Bible? Yes or no. He never walked this earth. You believe in Santa Claus too
@pornneliushubbard1967
@pornneliushubbard1967 6 днів тому
I said the Bible. Is that the Bible? Yes or no. He never walked this earth. You believe in Santa Claus too
@computerbiscuit
@computerbiscuit 12 днів тому
If Jesus was nothing, then why did he who was so small conquer the world? Why was he not wiped easily away from the Earth? The Way The Light The Truth
@YouLuc-eq5pe
@YouLuc-eq5pe 11 днів тому
The only god has no son, is not son and is not father!
@MarkDaddy69
@MarkDaddy69 9 днів тому
It’s all fake people
@liamseekins9488
@liamseekins9488 8 днів тому
Facts
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li 6 днів тому
Debunk it then
@matshanssen2070
@matshanssen2070 13 днів тому
No
@BeeBlot
@BeeBlot 6 днів тому
This whole episode is disappointing. Every clip is nothing but ignorance and mockery. Don't discuss things you know nothing about. Rather bring on someone who does know. It might not be as comfy, it might not tickle your itching ears, but you'll definitely be elucidated and we could all use some more of that.
@vincentvega5686
@vincentvega5686 13 днів тому
one thing jesus was not ...is korean! -louis ck
@kevinkeener3685
@kevinkeener3685 6 днів тому
Don't listen
@user-lk9sx9we9u
@user-lk9sx9we9u 9 днів тому
Jesus is prue fiction.
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
100%, meant to control the folks who aren't J*wish. Preaches being docile, easy to control.
@ScubaDiverPicker
@ScubaDiverPicker 6 днів тому
This woman knows ZERO about the Bible. She got pretty much everything wrong.
@silverblackguerrilla4370
@silverblackguerrilla4370 9 днів тому
The point everyone is missing is that even if Jesus did tell all those stories/parables, if no one made a record of it then OBVIOUSLY the stories we have from in the Bible are made up. This is just common sense. These stories were written by people who weren't even around to witness Jesus so hiw would thry even know what he said or didn't say? I know Christians are in denial about this cause of the fear of going to hel or whatever but if yiu truly believe in a creator then you should think that he'd only be interested in the truth. Believe whatever you want though. Peace
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
If you put 10 people in a room right now who are the same age and speak the same language and play the kids game called "Operator" you end up with a vastly difference sentence at the end than you began with. And yet, Christians believe that a guy who may or may not have existed is quoted accurately over 100 years later (that's THREE generations back then) despite having to go through several different languages as well, lol. It's absurd and completely statistically implausible.
@silverblackguerrilla4370
@silverblackguerrilla4370 9 днів тому
@@thegentlelivingchannel Logic and common sense means nothing to Christians unfortunately. They'll literally tell you that you're delusional for stating facts!!! Let that sink in
@user-hg2wn9dv6z
@user-hg2wn9dv6z 2 дні тому
She's clueless. 100? Unbelievable!!! Joe Rogan always talk to clueless guest who knows nothing: about Jesus. Get a proper Bible scholar. This is the biggest podcast. Get it right!
@arthurlach
@arthurlach 13 днів тому
Yes
@uprebel5150
@uprebel5150 13 днів тому
The Gospels of Matthew, John and Peter were written immediately after the Resurrection of Jesus Christ as they were his Disciples. Meaning they walked the earth with Him. Not 100 years later. Thus Joe's argument is based on a false premise.
@perry_vance
@perry_vance 13 днів тому
Thank you bro
@bsting601
@bsting601 12 днів тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@soaphustler
@soaphustler 10 днів тому
You have no way of knowing that lol yet say it so confidently.
@youtuberabbithole6002
@youtuberabbithole6002 13 днів тому
In 200 years people will say there is a historical record of Jon Snow from Winterfell
@PepeSmuggins
@PepeSmuggins 12 днів тому
If they find my time capsul they will
@usuariousuario-jf4hf
@usuariousuario-jf4hf 8 днів тому
Joe is so ignorant when it comes to the bible
@mitchy3438
@mitchy3438 10 днів тому
Jesus was not a story teller. He is a teacher.
@bertomeza2902
@bertomeza2902 10 днів тому
Not a teacher only , God himself
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
He was a fictional character created to sell a story for controlling non-J*ws
@perry_vance
@perry_vance 13 днів тому
Joe is taking everything she is saying for face value lol the disciples Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were part of the 12 disciples which means they were followers of him and walked with him when Jesus was ministering for 3 years. Matthew is a book that gives great detailed evidence of his eyewitness account while John emphasizes on Jesus’s love. They are all books that were written after Jesus was killed but they were definitely not written 100 years after Jesus died. Jesus was 33 when he died and much of his disciples were around the same age. Hence, they most likely wrote their books no more than 50 years after. The avg lifespan of people 2,000 years ago was no more than 80 years. After Jesus resurrected he showed himself to his disciple Thomas as well. Thomas did not believe It was actually Jesus and asked to see proof so Jesus showed him the wholes in his hands and feet to prove he was crucified. I recommend anyone and everyone to watch the TV series “The Chosen” it’s a great series about the life of Jesus.
@briendoyle3823
@briendoyle3823 12 днів тому
John and Matthew were disciples of Jesus not Luke and Mark. Mark was a companion of Peter and Luke a companion of Paul.
@TGoodie1717
@TGoodie1717 9 днів тому
This lady is terribly uninformed
@timmorales1569
@timmorales1569 9 днів тому
This woman doesn’t know the Bible or history. They wasn’t 100 years after. And what about the prophecies before his birth and about his death and where he’s from.
@thegentlelivingchannel
@thegentlelivingchannel 9 днів тому
Remarkably identical to myths told long before this whopper, lol.
@timmorales1569
@timmorales1569 9 днів тому
@@thegentlelivingchannel have you ever thought of the myths copying the Bible stories told long ago. And I guess u believe we come from apes. If so I never figured out why the rest of the apes hasn’t changed. Nature just decided well that’s enough to make humans so we better stop so we can have some pets. lol. Crazy people. Do you know the odds of everything coming from nothing then the odds of the sun and moon and everything else that had to line up to give life on this one planet. Yeah that’s numbers is too big to type. It would be like rolling 7 on dice over a trillion times in a roll. Just bc you didn’t see a man build a building don’t mean he didn’t exist. If scientists could put science behind GOD speaking the world into existence then they would call it the Big Bang theory.
@Berniebrosbemad
@Berniebrosbemad 9 днів тому
Jesus failed malachi
@wraith31
@wraith31 3 дні тому
Crap
@buzztripdream
@buzztripdream 12 днів тому
it's going to suck for joe on judgement day. repent bro JESUS is coming back very soon
@Tbone.357
@Tbone.357 12 днів тому
Why? Because he used logic and his brain? You can't just tell yourself to believe something. You have to be intellectually convinced of it. People take it personally when someone doesn't believe. Would you rather have them pretend they believe??? Just giving lip service like they did during the crusades where they would be executed If they didn't say they believed?
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