DID WE GET SCAMMED BUYING THIS VAN FROM A SALVAGE AUCTION
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3 місяці томуWe bought a crash damaged van from Copart which has much more damage than we could see in the photos. Did we get scammed? has this vehicle even been assessed? are assessors just guessing ? #salvage #wrecked #scammer #fail #crazy #crash
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@sruk 3 місяці тому
A few people seem to be worried we are going to loose money please rest assure it was still a bargain we don’t want to return it or get a refund it’s going to make a great parts vehicle and we will utilise the Parts. And remember if you get lemons make lemonade 👌👍
@tonyfurneaux3399 3 місяці тому
Great outlook guys, good on ya.
@johnchincotta1qwdb15 3 місяці тому
That's a good one Rob,witty as usual,lol.
@abcxyz820 3 місяці тому
This comment makes me consider that they got a partial refund and kept the asset, due to the costs paid out to collect, and for co-part to dispose; therefore don't worry all.
@olie3146 3 місяці тому
@@abcxyz820 I can guarantee you copart don't do partial refunds..... It'd be a miracle if you got a full refund out of them
@sruk 3 місяці тому
@@abcxyz820 if I had any refund I would have said so like I said we’re happy to keep it as a parts van the engine alone will cover the cost of the vehicle
@wombatsyoutube 3 місяці тому
Chris, brew in hand....."Just price a new bodyshell Rob." without flinching. Now that's old school! 👍
@philipmulville8218 3 місяці тому
😂
@jo_clarke1960 3 місяці тому
Yeah, liked that. No hesitation with the "Let's see if we can make this work" mentality, grafters attitude, not bodgers.
@LarryDutton 3 місяці тому
a great example of someone bringing solutions, not problems, to the situation!
@Ro32da72 3 місяці тому
Nothing fazes him, does it? 😊
@zoidberg444 3 місяці тому
Yeah - Only someone of Chris's mechanical pedigree would react to getting a turd like that! 🤣
@mikefarrar8071 3 місяці тому
Hi Lads, I'm a retired Assessor and yes that in my view would have been a breaker if un-economic or in days gone by as Chris said a new shell. I doubt whether shells are available now anyway because of the work involved and amount of tech. packed into new vehicles make it un-viable. I retired early because work was thinning out for independent assessors because the major insurers were dealing with most claims in house from images sent from repairers or recovery yards. Another consideration is that the categories of salvage bring different percentages paid to the insurer. Therefore Cat N might net 25% : Cat S 15% : Cat B 10% so I'm not saying it's happened in this case but the wrong category will give the insurer give a bigger return against the loss. In my day it would be down to the salvage agent to ask the insurer to change the category but Copart are so big I don't think they would bother. I'm sure you will be OK as you say just not as profitable.
@jamesa6091 3 місяці тому
Cat B all day long. Copart should be calling you to apologise on this one.
@misterzee5736 3 місяці тому
They won't. Same happened to me but wasn't as obvious as this. A Cat N being a severe CAT S. No apology and told me to put it back on their site if I want.
@danwedderburn5550 3 місяці тому
You will wait all of your life to get an apology from Copart. They never apologise for any of there actions, never will.
@islandhopperstuart 3 місяці тому
Someone official in the DOT needs to be told about this to get it investigated as the system of categorisation has clearly failed. Is there a disclaimer in Coparts Ts and Cs? If not then surely you've got scope to pursue them for misrepresentation of this vehicle.
@sruk 3 місяці тому
We’re quiet happy to keep the vehicle it’s a good parts vehicle and it was cheap
@AI-Records24 3 місяці тому
Funny enough they even have one on the invoice that says “you aren’t guaranteed to get this vehicle”
@Lifetimenattyuk 3 місяці тому
Be great to ask the assessor who categorised it advice on how he would go about repairing it
@Mr57blackbeauty 3 місяці тому
As the guy said, it can be repaired if it had been Cat N and the Assessor (and proper old school been there done it Engineers are few and far between now, probably just some snotty nosed twat with an NVQ glanced at the fuzzy pics) then you have a come back, but strip the front out, give it a pull, new flitch A post and chassis leg, 2nd hand non structural parts and it's on the road for about £1500 more than if you'd bought a straight one from a dealer, as an old Assessor that used to enjoy going to Silverlake, SRC, Frys, Charles Trent, etc to look at write offs, talk with people that knew their trade, We all knew Copart was going to be be a nightmare, even before COVID, they didn't really want to deal with anyone face to face, but that's progress😢
@timday6087 3 місяці тому
I love Rob’s positivity, already looking how he can make the best of a bad situation. If I bought it I would have went to bed and hidden under the covers for a week.
@Frank_Nemo 3 місяці тому
Yep, me as well. Not in the same bed though, obviously :)
@bruceshaw2402 3 місяці тому
Can you try to return this mess back to copart as its obviously been misrepresented in the photographs , you said they only showed the front quarter of the bonnet area conveniently missing out the serious damage . If you tried to sell a car like that you would end up in court.
@marcusmaximus451 3 місяці тому
Good comment Bruce plus I think both Chris and Rob should become assessors as well as their day job, but I very much doubt they would have enough time in the day best regards to you and have a nice evening 😃👍
@johnoleary5612 3 місяці тому
Ya, but even if copart did take it back. Rob is going to be out of pocket a days pay minimum. As someone said above, when you get lemons, make lemonade. Im looking forward to finding out how much they paid.
@DandelionBill 3 місяці тому
They imaged the entire front quarter, you can clearly see all the damage, you can even see the sill is crumpled. Nothing wrong with the image I'm afraid
@patjohnson6636 3 місяці тому
Think you've also highlighted the "hole" in car vertical check it's only as good as data from others
@Wsempson71 3 місяці тому
I agree with chris you should get a price on a new shell that would make a good mini series
@klimenz 3 місяці тому
Still too much labour. They'll better off repairing other van that took lighter N/S damage
@stephenricketts7764 3 місяці тому
My thoughts are that this has not been assessed in person and has been assessed from some questionable photos. On the positive side at least you have a running 20k miles engine, a key and some parts for a future project. I think maybe a flood damaged body would be something to look out for, around the same age though. Hope Chris will get well soon and thanks Rob for another video. 👍👍
@Andy5634 3 місяці тому
Not a chance anyone been to view that van to catagorize it.and a good plan going forward to keep a look out for a damaged/flood damaged one to sort.great upload guys
@notwhereyouthink 3 місяці тому
That's a category B all day.
@organiccold 3 місяці тому
The insurance guy didn't even looked at that, was a Friday afternoon job 100%. Keep going with the great job guys. Get better soon Chris.
@dealermike1331 3 місяці тому
Yeah park it up.. it'll come in handy at some point. The private plate is worth a decent few quid if it comes with the van and isn't on retention. Good content
@andrewforeman5716 3 місяці тому
I saw that on your truck on Friday, wondered when it would appear on the channel, it did look a rather badly damaged van hope it goes well.
@olie3146 3 місяці тому
Rob do you ever do the video walkaround with the vehicles you're getting? It costs £10 but it's saved me a lot of hassles with some of the cars I've been looking at at copart, you get 10 minutes and you can ask them to start and move it and look at anything you want to on the vehicle. I'm sure I've you'd have done that with this one you would've walked away. As you say, it should clearly be a cat B
@camperp195 3 місяці тому
The assessor clearly was stevie wonder on this one !
@Ragnar8504 3 місяці тому
And his seeing eye dog must have called out sick that day.
@ajones8699 3 місяці тому
Not even stevie wonder is that blind😂
@kimdeabill8540 3 місяці тому
Best comment here. 😂
@deanhawthorn5783 3 місяці тому
i just called to say ill rob you and i mean it from the bottom of my heart
@user-yh7qs3oc6g 3 місяці тому
Thank you for being open and honest.. you could easily not include this one on the channel.. but we all need and like to see the business/ industry from all angles.. have to take the good with the bad .. ill have one of thoses lemonades please.. 😅
@kevinoconnor7684 3 місяці тому
Hello Rob & Chris once .. no way that one should be back on the road, doing so could damage your reputation.. once again you've shown your true professionalism and knowing when to say no.. pretty sure something will turn up u can use the bits on.. I have one if these newer partners I think they're a disaster compared with the older ones.. lots of adblue issues..
@TheDaf95xf 3 місяці тому
Very interesting bit of salvage 🤔 but at least it runs 👍🏻 Get better soon Chris 🤧 Great idea looking for a donor van 🚐 fingers crossed 🤞🏻
@donegaljohn1 3 місяці тому
I watch every video, I’m in the motor trade 20+ years, I honestly don’t know why anyone buys from Copart, Stick to the private vehicles where you can meet the owner and buy the vehicle a lot cheaper and no Fee’s, I used to buy from copart and got caught a few times with the same issue with bad photos.
@tommiller1315 3 місяці тому
I thought that about BCA.
@jon-cunningham 3 місяці тому
Problem is so many insurance companies seem to be tied up with this sort of outfit. When my car was hit Copart managed absolutely everything including the offer on my car once it was written off. Because they categorised it as a Cat B (incorrectly) I couldn't buy it back.
@samueldeakin2902 3 місяці тому
There is no way you get it cheaper from a private sale.. copart is 100% cheaper always bid from copart thinking this is worse than the pictures ... I bought an Antara un recorded i.e no cat write off 6k on forecourt same mileage delivered to me 3k
@AlexanderSmith21 3 місяці тому
Aiden he's some man just amazing worth having on your team any day of the week well done I always love watching the videos of cars and vans being fixed
@chrisevans403 3 місяці тому
Great video, as always honest and direct, success teaches us nothing. Looking forward to seeing how this can be turned around making it even more watchable.
@XXXLAVERICKXXX 3 місяці тому
Are Copart not liable in allowing a vehicle out the door which is so badly damaged as a cat s?
@tttt4029 3 місяці тому
Exactly, they're allowing it to be repaired and on the road again - very dangerous !
@81adamlittle 3 місяці тому
Surely that itself is a grey area, after all anything can be repaired with enough parts and enough labour, the economic viability is a different matter.
@tttt4029 3 місяці тому
@@81adamlittle Yes but that's the point, nobody is going to spend more money than the car is worth, therefore the risk is that unscrupulous people could fix up a breaker car on the cheap then put it back on the road. Not an expert but that seems like a big concern if we're allowing breaker cars to be put back on the road.
@XXXLAVERICKXXX 3 місяці тому
@@81adamlittle Did you watch the video?
@rogerblackwood8815 3 місяці тому
@@XXXLAVERICKXXX Did you? Especially the bit where Chris said he would consider a re-shell? As Adam said "anything can be repaired, it is the economic viability that calls the shot"! Exactly how it is in our business, aviation, we have planes from the 1920's through to the present day and some parts are unobtainium! So we fabricate new parts from original plans. When a £million plane needs a part that's not available, you make it! But with a £10k van it isn't worth it! Got the idea now?
@tvdel 3 місяці тому
Coparts revenge for selling you Cheap motors before Christmas Looking forward to seeing you boys transform this one
@tttt4029 3 місяці тому
The parts will just end up on another car.
@vincepinkney3499 3 місяці тому
I used to be an insurance assessor, the company I worked for used copart, towards the end of my career cars were sent direct to copart and one of their people would cost the repair and categorise the salvage. That's could be the case with your van. The skill level in the motor industry including insurance companies is falling,I hate to think how it will end up. Keep up the good work guys.
@VisionPrestigeCars 3 місяці тому
Guys, new subscriber here, love your down to earth nature and have been watching a while now but had to comment on this one. As an ex ATA VDA this situation is completely unacceptable, as you said the categorisation process needs a serious over hall, having just made a video of the complete opposite situation here because I simply had to something has got to be done before people are killed having an accident in an improperly repaired vehicle, in this case anything other than a body shell would fold up like an envelope if it was hit again no matter how well it’s was repaired as you have rightly said. Love you work ethic men, keep grinding and all the best. Kev
@jonflounders1541 3 місяці тому
A coffee if I'd showed that to Chris I'd have bought him a bottle of whiskey to soften the blow😂
@HowardLeVert 3 місяці тому
Category B, surely? Can you recover any components from it to mitigate your losses?
@AI-Records24 3 місяці тому
Engine alone will cover what they paid for that 100%
@grahambell6719 3 місяці тому
would be great to see a re shell on thst van , something totally new and never seen you do that before
@patanna7452 3 місяці тому
Wow! That’s a bad one indeed. You Gents do amazing work! Keep the great videos coming!
@leedstown 3 місяці тому
Ob and Chris, remember salvage in the 1980s and 1990s the drivers A post would have been sent right back halfway to the b post, amazing how the passenger cell is so intact after such a big hit
@darthvirago 3 місяці тому
In the 60's the steering column would go thru your chest too.
@lesbrown5829 3 місяці тому
@@darthviragoand the chrome strip down the top of th centre of the bonnet.
@lesbrown5829 3 місяці тому
But, I think the foam bits on the lower dash would cushion the blow🙂
@leedstown 3 місяці тому
@@lesbrown5829 no
@leedstown 3 місяці тому
@@darthvirago yes a lot of people died in car accidents, Marc bolan a famous singer in the 1970s died in a car crash he would survive now
@tonyfurneaux3399 3 місяці тому
That is so shady, but I am not surprised at anything these days, I just hope that a lot of people see how IMO crooked the insurance companies are in conjunction with the auction sites that don't allow in person viewing, so shady, it's like being a mile underground, yes I worked at a mine lol. Take care guys. Better luck next time.
@daveflanagan6510 3 місяці тому
A replacement after-flood bodyshell would make an interesting string of videos plus you've got a sound engine and dry looms and there have been lots of floods recently. Good Luck.
@markmurphy3578 3 місяці тому
I think Stevie Wonder would have spotted that this wasn’t a repairable vehicle! Thanks for showing us the warts and all side of the business. BTW, I think I remember someone many years ago buying a new shell for a car from Ford. It was a lot of work and he swore a heap.
3 місяці тому
If they haven't shown the correct damage for the auction, surely you can reject this as not being what you were buying, lads?
@olie3146 3 місяці тому
Not with copart, if it runs and drives and it's been categorised by an assessor they sell it as it is, only way this could've been avoided is if the lads paid £10 to copart and did a video walk around. Copart wash their hands as soon as the money is paid
@mikeherbert7664 3 місяці тому
Absolutely disgraceful that they can get away with this
@misterzee5736 3 місяці тому
@@olie3146 Unless the person doing the walk around is deceitful which has happened to me. Also they must do the video call on a 3310 because its hard to see anything.
@olie3146 3 місяці тому
@@misterzee5736 I've done quite a few and never had any issues, I just ask them to look at specific things and hold the camera so I can see the damage. I have heard that some people have had issues with the quality..... Personally I think they should allow viewing again but it helps them out too much not to do them.
@tonylawlor3503 3 місяці тому
Rob and Chris a bit rough maybe a diamond in the rough strip for spares,? In my opinion hide it in a big hole Shocking 😮
@mikewoodward5765 3 місяці тому
Get well soon Chris I know how you feel mate I’m exactly the same 🤧
@TPR.Autos986 3 місяці тому
I had the same with an Audi a3 from Copart the damage was listed as minor dents and scratches had all sorts of mechanical problems and was in limp mode and the turbo had gone
@md-detailing 3 місяці тому
Jesus Crhist that took a wack. My mK3 Megane with 75.000km in 2017 when we got it imported from france hit a barrier and hit the crash bar was bent bad, radiator, bonnet, no Airbags tho, we fixed it and still have it, now it has 200.000km. We did have alot of other things to fix, multiple injectors, alternator, multiple batteries, ventilators, cabin blower motor. Great video Rob, i think the Partner should be a Cat S because thats just oo far gone.
@kevinnye5132 3 місяці тому
Good idea Rob not showing Chris your address lol 😂 buying that heap mate he is sure to come looking for ya 😂😂 and deservingly so 👌🏻.
@mrlister2000 3 місяці тому
Im sure there is a garage in Birmingham that will buy it from you and have that back on the road in 24 hours!!! Coparts aren't bothered, and if you take it back will blame you for damaging it! Thay have literally cornered the market to the point where i would say they are monopolizing it.
@Rusty_Tank. 3 місяці тому
Small world I'm a Lister and live in Tamworth not far away haha
@mrlister2000 3 місяці тому
@@Rusty_Tank. Not my surname, but a quote from Red Dwarf!!
@Rusty_Tank. 3 місяці тому
@mrlister2000 good call absolutely brilliant series mate.
@alanswindells317 3 місяці тому
Just glad it's you guys who got it and it won't see the road again.. someone deffo not doing their job..
@paulcushnie 3 місяці тому
Rob i spotted where the fault is, looks like the assessor left his glasses on the dash before he done his walk around. That is a cat b all day. But then if its a bodyshop that is doing the assessing and if they are anything like the one my insurance has made me use then its quality issue. My car has been away since 14th December for a rear bumper told car was ready last week went down and told them take it back to the booth 1 the paint is the wrong colour, 2 the orange peel was awful seen smoother 40 grit.
@rainbowchaser9604 3 місяці тому
I'd be taking copart to court for my money back. They must know what a cat S & cat B are, it's their trade. If they purposefully didn't include decent pictures of the o/s front, they knew they were selling a lemon. The insurance assessor needs bringing to account too, imo, as well as copart. There's defo something fishy going on & only legal proceedings will bring that to light
@AI-Records24 3 місяці тому
Good luck😂wasting your time there they have a lot more money than you to fight over it too, time is money you move on and get on with it. If you spent time going over every single thing in salvage game you’d never get anything done! The terms and conditions are bulletproof done by very expensive solicitors you aren’t getting around them. They even say in the invoice “you aren’t guaranteed to get this vehicle”😅
@danielgibbsbarlow8069 3 місяці тому
My last car was written off on just photos I definitely think this one should be a breaker I don't think you are the only ones having issues with co part and the category ect
@sruk 3 місяці тому
It’s not Copart bud it’s insurance assessors
@Toby_the_Glen 3 місяці тому
If you want those sorts of buyer protections you have to buy from a dealer? All auctions are a trade environment, buying under trade conditions. You have to put your big boy pants on!
@jamest5149 3 місяці тому
Seeing the glasses on the dash, would explain the accident 😂
@raymcvey 3 місяці тому
Thing is Copart have sold something that doesn't match the correct description - even though assessors have misjudged. Copart are liable.
@edwardalannewton8591 3 місяці тому
It's a joke rob
@FLIPorFAIL 3 місяці тому
Dangerous that it’s been clearly missed, exposes the issues and understaffing. Flood damage would be a great series!
@anthonyhamilton2995 3 місяці тому
That’s a Cat B if anything!
@jameshurst3279 3 місяці тому
Copart have been doing this for years. I bought a wheelchair accessible Peugeot partner about twelve years ago from them. I bought it for my sister in law who is disabled. They never took a picture of the wheelchair ramp and I just thought they couldn’t have been bothered to. The actual reason they didn’t take one was because there wasn’t one in there. The previous owner must have drilled the rivets off and removed it before the insurance collected it. They know what they are doing, they are sneaky and take the most favourable pictures. You should’ve left the van there and told them to do one
@AI-Records24 3 місяці тому
They haven’t got time to be doing it maliciously they make so much money they don’t care. The people taking pictures are lads on not much more than minimum wage they don’t do it to hide anything. When they don’t take a picture of something you assume it isn’t there and then you won’t be surprised!
@WebDevKevUK650 3 місяці тому
This is the first video I've seen where you guys weren't happy with a purchase. Normally I watch and see some crazy damage and you guys just say there's not much wrong with it. Keep up the great work :)
@georgepaterson4825 3 місяці тому
No insurance person checked that it's definitely a part's one But again Chris came up with the idea which will be a less hassle so good luck for the future of this job again well done Rob for for keeping your cool looking forward to seeing that one back in the future 👍
@Toby_the_Glen 3 місяці тому
BCA are also exploiting the fact that you can't inspect in person. Relying on auction houses for accurate descriptions is like pissing in the wind! And don't they know it!
@super6954 3 місяці тому
Since a lot of auctions went "online only" with the 19 sneezes, there is a lot of stuff selling here in Canadian machinery auctions that isn't what the out of area buyer thinks it is. The auctioneers tell me they won't go back live in person Auctions now because they do less work for thousands more than local buyers were paying. Now that tells the whole story scraps making more money because people aren't looking in person before the hammer falls. I know what some of the equipment is when guys retire, I've been a mechanic in this area a long time. I won't even try biding on some stuff as there is no profit buying it to fix and sell out as the guys are known locally for being rough on machines.
@l1sakr1s 3 місяці тому
Can you get a Copart refund because of the van condition even if you had to get a professional second opinion .
@sruk 3 місяці тому
No we’re happy to keep it for parts 👍
@BackyardMechCon 3 місяці тому
A bit late now but a parts breakdown manual would of been handy for knowing how shes put together. I'm sure there downloadable.
@chriswilkes4350 3 місяці тому
Copart should be writing you a check! The assessor never saw this van. Great work in difficult circumstances.
@CTR_1986 3 місяці тому
I had my car crashed into during covid, damaged the Sill, Door, front wing and rear quarter. Was a 07 Fiesta but the insurer wrote it off from the photos, paid me out and never mentioned a category but got collected to copart in Chester and was listed as CAT B. I had to smash the sill down with a hammer to shut door easily but it still ran and drove for the next few days until I got a replacement. Whoever bought it would have had plenty of parts as every other side of the car was in damaged including the bonnet and front bumper. Just front wing to rear on that one side. Can’t say that’s seen a proper assessor that van and copart should have included pictures of that damage, it’s not hard to miss
@darrencowley8265 3 місяці тому
Hi Rob and Chris all the years I've followed your videos that is a bad one but I'm no mechanic. But I would say just wait and see if you can save it. Thankyou again for a great video take care both 👍
@nickbrady616 3 місяці тому
Rob & chris ,that's a great idea Utilising that van for a flood damaged or back end smash. it is wrong but how great you both are I'm sure it'll pay off for salvage rebuilds.
@anthonyhawkins9239 3 місяці тому
Cat B definitely, as you said, you can utilise the parts 👍🏻, flood damaged van sounds perfect 👍🏻.
@markswift1477 3 місяці тому
Think people have not played with a straight bat, agree that the van should be a cat B but I am sure all is not lost you will be able to use as a donner van and get your money back all is not lost. Thanks for sharing Rob you could have quite easily have shown us another video. Just shows how honest you boys are.
@steve5772 2 місяці тому
Scary thing is, there's people out there who would do some work on this and sell it. Top marks for being the honest craftsmen you both are
@eurorodenterprise 3 місяці тому
It is what it is, that’s what you get when dealing in salvage, sometimes you get lucky sometimes not, but most importantly is how you deal with it, I think Rob and Chris have right attitude, park it up use the bits, it will all work out fine in the end 👍
@royeady800 3 місяці тому
And the New Year was getting off to a good start, I am sure you will come up with a solution, best wishes from France
@cmac5110 3 місяці тому
That's shocking lads, keep up the good work
@tonynewcombe9075 3 місяці тому
I agreed with everything in the comments, can’t believe that a engineer would say that was ok to repair !. It would be nice to know as Chris said “ get the price of a new shell ££ . I watch all the videos, great job both of you.
@guymorgan725 3 місяці тому
Insurance is strange my son's micra was cat B with minimal damage to the front corner had to get an independent assessment done to get it corrected and is now a cat N his insurance was a nightmare to deal with He was just lucky that i know what insurance is like as i was in a car body shop for a number of years but an assessor actually looked at the car and still got it wrong But keep up the good work i like the old school approach
@LarryDutton 3 місяці тому
top marks for your lane discipline on the trip out 👍
@mattcurtis6481 3 місяці тому
Agreed with you Rob, cat B. They should give you the option of taking a swap! 👍👍👍
@timpearson5086 3 місяці тому
Did you price up a new bodyshell, if Citroen supply them? Many years ago I re-shelled an Escort and a Metro, both hit hard in the same area with buckled roofs and floors. About 120 hours work per car for me as an amateur, I'm sure you and Chris would be quicker. At least the interior of this one is simple
@CarsForPaul 3 місяці тому
Rob, that van is a crusher every day of the week, Copart, man 😡😡😤 no words
@leonb2637 3 місяці тому
What is also bad is that the insurance company got more money from a bad assessment too. Now find a van of the same model that had a bad engine and had the doors on the side and back stolen or removed. It is a popular enough model from your other videos so better to use this for parts, cheaper and less hassle going to/from the breakers' yard.
@llpalm08 3 місяці тому
That has to be a cat B, especially with the damage and deformation of the occupancy area, so there's no way anyone assessed the damage. If the engine was knackered it would definitely be a case of putting in a complaint to get a refund or money off from lack of appropriate images/information, but with what you have got it will make a future project easier and possibly cheaper to get parts for, and once that does happen it could be an interesting video to see what the full extent of the damage to the shell on this one is when it gets stripped down for the parts.
@cornishrider 3 місяці тому
What a shocker! However I've done doubt we'll be seeing this one again in the future
@bryanhowells6269 3 місяці тому
Hi philosophical, is the word that comes to mind You have stated recently that you’ve had some good buys from Copart and wondered why they let you have them so cheap, But another word that comes to mind is diabolical. That certainly was the case with this van no way was it a category S I really like your channel and the input with all the details. Thank you so much
@24vince1 3 місяці тому
It’s always a gamble Jonny, rough with the smooth, take it and move on, it’s good to show the not so good as well as the bargains, good luck as always, take care boys 👍
3 місяці тому
Hi Rob and Chris, no joke this episode? Looks like Co part are the jokers this week. Also at 11:18, no need for Chris to salute us all. Thanks for another honest episode. 👍
@alexandertalbot3054 3 місяці тому
Totally agree with you 100% no way is that van CAT S , if a insurance assessor has looked over that and labelled it a cat s , he is in the wrong job , that van has had one hell of smack !
@ianbeale2527 3 місяці тому
My friends own a garage that services and repairs motorcycles. They would buy bikes from salvage to break. 20 years ago they had a 3 month old Suzuki Bandit in that was a cat B. They also picked up a Honda Blackbird , Cat C, from the same vendor. The Bandit had only fallen off the sidestand, snapped the clutch lever, footpeg, bent the handlebars and broke the front indicator. All parts they had in stock ! The Blackbird had flipped multiple times at speed - it was just a mangled mess of what was left of the frame, and an engine- basically the engine internals being the only salvage they could get from it- but useful to rebuild another customer's engine. Sometimes there's no logic behind the categories !
@fatwalletboy2 3 місяці тому
Given the impact im amazed the drivers wheel is still there! I do think it was mis represented by the salvage firm with no pic of that area.
@robroberts7659 3 місяці тому
The assessor was working from home that day for sure! I really like the idea of a re-shell, personally; it'd make a great video Rob. I feel for you Chris, as I'm just getting over a dose of manfluenza meself - it's been really wicked. Give me Covid any day... 😅
@craigwilliams6734 3 місяці тому
Thought you might “back” that one Rob…what an absolute mess!!! Chris’s face when he saw it on the flat bed!!! Not a happy bunny. I think you should do what you said, park it up & wait for a similar model to show up.
@terryramsey1470 3 місяці тому
Hard lines on this one fellas surely you weren't showing the real damage i know Chris is good but Paul Daniels could not bring this one back to life i think that the insurance accesser needs to go to spec savers hopefully you will get your readies back one way or another take care and stay lucky and healthy 👍 looking forward to Wednesday's video 📹 already 😊
3 місяці тому
Hi Rob and Chris, no joke this episode? Looks like Copart are the jokers this week. Also at 11:18, no need for Chris to salute us all. Thanks for another honest episode. 👍
@seangrant808 3 місяці тому
Park it up and wait, do it for your self and Chris, nice parts running van👍🏻
@craigeboy70 3 місяці тому
When you 1st showed us the van my first thought was . Oi Copart you can have this back .
@angelabeacham-ic8fh 3 місяці тому
Hi Rob, I think it was a category B van and they didn’t look at the pictures so I’ll see it would be for Breakers yard. Only good luck with that one
@Jay-B1750 3 місяці тому
Is there a governing body that you can contact about the category? That's had a damn hard hit that would be leathal if repaired! Hopefully you can find another one to use the parts on!
@marcusmaximus451 3 місяці тому
Sorry this has happened chaps, I’m no expert but that is definitely a cat b, good idea both on a new body shell and also waiting for a flood damage or light damage one come up again, I wish you both every success in getting through this, their is no way an assessor looked at this and if they did they don’t know diddly squat, kind regards to you both and Chris get well soon, kind regards Mark from Billericay 😀👍🇬🇧
@tomconey2129 3 місяці тому
Hi Guys, loving your videos! I recently bought a Cat N Subaru Outback from Copart. Took me 5 mins once it arrived to see it was Cat S - chassis leg, inner wing, rear quarter. God knows what the insurance assessor was thinking. An X ref car so straight from insurance.
@tomconey2129 3 місяці тому
That van is 100% Cat B!
@barrykenward9178 3 місяці тому
That should be in a crusher (as you said), assessor obviously working from home that day. So many red flags had it had good pictures. A good donor for another project as you sad Rob 🤞, you’ll not have to wait too long.
@Piner5074 3 місяці тому
That’s outrageous, well and truly done you up like a kipper. Definitely only a parts car, problem is they’ve made you do it the wrong way round, in that you’d obviously buy a repairable one first. Now you’ve got to wait for a car that got very specific damage. Thankfully you guys are in a position that you can afford and wait to do that. Not all repairers can buy two cars to make one good one.
@davidmirolo 3 місяці тому
When you showed the chassis leg rammed into the firewall I said OH DEAR , in a more colourful way 😆
@VailingGoose 3 місяці тому
Was looking forward to Chris finding some spare change in this one
@bongopongo6206 3 місяці тому
Shocking... I can't believe you bought a combo with the naff basic radio...
@dennisgroves7688 3 місяці тому
Totally agree with you 100 percent that van should of been classed a cat B write off.
3 місяці тому
Hi Rob and Chris, no joke this episode? Looks like Co part are the jokers this week. Also at 11:18, no need for Chris to salute us all. Thanks for another honest episode.
@72neillyboy 3 місяці тому
As you say Rob, great parts vehicle for a future project. No way an assessor had eyes on that. Shocking to be classed as Cat S 😳
@bobbydwheelhouse 3 місяці тому
Cat B without a doubt. Lad driving it will have been rough getting out of that. I would look into re shelling it. It’d be quite quick as a van has very little to switch over
@marksmithard7801 3 місяці тому
That is a shocker. No way is that Cat S. When people think salvage is risk free and easy they need to watch this. Hopefully a suitable vehicle will come up that you can use this one with. Great video as ever and thanks for the ongoing content 👍
@stephenholt2893 3 місяці тому
The vans as rough as Chris sounds. Get well soon Chris, don’t do too much too soon, take the time to get properly better before going out in the workshop.
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