Excellent video with well thought out points. Kind of reminds me of former smokers who decide to take another puff and then realize, nah, it's not worth it or as good as it used to be. lol

Congratulations on wasting your money

OMG 😱 I really feel Disneyland is so cheap.

I think you should do a video simply titled "Disney has gotten too expensive" since every experience you've had can be summed up in that one sentence. Same can be said for their movies in 2023 which flopped hard despite billions of dollars spent on them.

The virtual line pass is ridiculous. My family and I drove 14 hours to Florida to go to universal studios and that was the only way to ride Hagrids. We tried all day and could never get a pass so my brother and I along with our kids went to guest services to talk. We pretty much had to stomp our feet until they gave us one. Not very fun.

This is it. People can complain all they want. But Genie+ sells very well. On busy days, it sells out. The hotels are as full as they've ever been, from value to DVC villas. People buy tons of merch, snacks, and meals. Ticketed events like holiday parties sell out way in advance. Yeah it's crazy expensive, and IMO predatory (see Jake's comment on Genie+ maybe being worth it for the one-time family vacation), but as long as people continue to reliably pay, it will only get worse.

Best way to save money at theme parks in general. STOP!!!! BUYING ALL THE STUPID ADD ONS. People complaining about the prices are the same ones that'll eat at a terrible Disney restaurant with trash food vs eating at a local restaurant. People need to stop encouraging what they supposedly want to stop

Yep. People no longer bat an eye at seemingly small “add ons” on their phones. And people are putting everything on credit nowadays anyways. Society is getting out of hand

They did lose over a billion dollars on that stupid Star Wars hotel…..I’m willing to bet they weren’t to thrilled about that

STOP PAYING DISNEY!!!

The Bobs have been nothing but detrimental to the WDW experience.

Now all rides are upcharge attractions in addition to the regular park admission?

​@@johnfoltz8183No, the Genie+ is an additional cost if you want to access the shorter queue instead of waiting in the free longer line.

Exactly

you can thank the "genius" concept of streaming platforms, and also companies losing money on every movie they make lol

People keep paying

Busch Gardens Tampa: Hold my beer

Kinda like paying real estate taxes when u have no kids in school

Staying in line is free tho

Yeah like buying car insurance. 2000k a year. And the insurance company pay 500$ WHEN YOUR CAR iS TOTALED

Abracadabra!!!

Smash all your childhood films too, but that is on the house

How is that magical, you literally see it vanish

Disney is very overrated. It’s the name brand. You’d be better off going to the beach and maybe paying for parking. Bring a picnic basket

​@@filip1408 Magic, my friend.

Right?? It certainly isn't the Disney we grew up going to. I remember it being expensive even in the mid 90's, but still something we could do once every few years. I didn't even know they got rid of Fastpass because I haven't gone since 2017, and it looks like I won't be going back anytime soon.

@@louc3268 exactly!! Crazy times.

Same here. I want to take my 4 year old but it’s just not a justifiable purchase. It’s cheaper to go on vacation somewhere else.

Six Flags was better than Disneyland.

@@louc3268 Having grown up in California just a short drive to Disneyland...and now 75 years old....having gone there many many times, looking at it now, it is a totally cheap fake worthless piece of overpriced nonsense. It reminds me at the core as very Wallmart, with a fancy paint job.....it is idiotic mind numbing and designed to fleece the masses and mind manipulation so that all the stupid low iQ masses gladly pay the inflated prices. When I was young, I preferred Knotts Berry Farm for its authentic old west vibe. I even worked as a can can girl in the Calico saloon for an entire year....Back then it was free admittance and all the prices were a bargain.

Disneyland/World is so over priced I cancelled a trip for Nov as I can do cheaper vacations elsewhere. I will always love the visionary that Walt was. But as much as I love Disneyland I wont go back because of the very things you pointed out. Planning a trip to Efteling instead next year,as its a far more magical place that still has the magic that the disney has lost for me. It holds the potiential of what Disneyland could have been before corporate greed took over.

$5500!!! this is downright INSANE! I hope you and your family can get to discover the beauty and magic of natural places around the earth (especially if it's around where you live to avoid pollution because of airplanes) without it costing two months of good salary

Corporate taking over since Walt Disney has passed " Corporate is MONEY-HUNGRY-VERY VERY GREEDY

Corporate taking over since Walt Disney has passed " Corporate is MONEY-HUNGRY-VERY VERY GREEDY

Disney is now full of middle class dorks who work in professional jobs. Working class people cannot afford it. This is wrong.

Sorry but I find it wholly weird to always vacation at Disney

Weird

Good riddance!

It took you that long? We stopped in the early 2000s and we were Florida residents.

Ever try to estimate how much money you all spent all those years? Would be interesting.

Low Income family, but Disneyland was just down the street so I got to go maybe four times before moving out of state. Dad would get each of us the booklets of tickets and we'd all choose which 'E' rides to go on first. By the end of the day and everyone more tired, we decide which 'A' rides were worth stomaching. That was when it was under $14 to enter the park and get a booklet of tickets. Now... nope. Sounds like a super expensive chore.

Last time I went it was still $70 per ticket and that was expensive for my parents.

Good comment

Ive never been able to enjoy these things. I always got sick or hurt. If id buy tickets id just break my legs tomorrw and itll be a waste just like all the other times.

The middle class never existed.

It really does. Especially for people with sensory issue and anxiety, it must be absolute hell

Multiply the escapism with a device that encourages escapism from an amusement park. Makes it a topsy turvy moment

I was at Disney when Pokemon GO dropped. Everyone was freaking out about pokemon behind fences and glued to their phones. What a way to spend a Disney trip

for a trip that you spent so much money on!

It was horrible when i went last year, the most stressful holiday ever, and 3 weeks in orlando cost us around $22000Aud so a disaster on the wallet too

why does it matter? its a theme park not a religious sacrament

my grams was as cool as yours. She took us a few times. Was on stage for the 25th anniversary show. She even took us to the Citrus Bowl and if Michigan beat Ohio St that year we wouldve seen them play. Shes too cool, she tried, wouldve been legendary to match her legendary status in my family. Not to mention visitng our uncle who lived in many states over the years. Everyone deserves a granny like ours, super thankful now that im older

@@joeadm3771 Theme parks, especially Disney, can mean a lot to people. Yes, it is just a theme park - but inside contains good memories with family. A temporary care-free escape from reality. The reason I love Disneyland so much is because I have fond memories of going with my uncle, my mother, being on Captain EO with them, the Haunted Mansion, ect... But, to have the parks have all of these changes, price raises, and lower in quality overtime is upsetting. Because then you can't relive what it once was - all you have are those memories left. And that's it. We all see it differently, though. Just wanted to offer you a bit of reasoning as to why a lot of people see Disney, or any other park in general, as not /just/ a theme park.

Idk man it's really fun

​@@thisismyaltaccount85Nah, it's not fun anymore. At Magic Kingdom Splash Mountain was the last good thing there, with that gone there's nothing much worth going there

You just had to say something.... now Six Flags will take that as a challenge.

ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cambjqZ5qGeJo3k.html It explains a lot.

The six flags near me has had their flashpass system long before genie+ came along. I used it once years ago, $65 and you got three rides, thats it. I’m sure it’s different now though.

@@HaddaClu Six Flags knows that the best way to beat Disney is to add more value. Six Flags would see that as their demise.

Um, 6 flags has a system too but their system is wayyyyy more expensive. We did a trip at start of year and parks were crazy busy. Did not matter as genie plus let us ride almost everything. Disney system is CHEAP compared to other systems.

It’s mostly older adults who are retired or influencers who get payed to go. Then you have the normal middle class family vacations and the low amount of people who saved a lot

I can only conclude people don’t know any better.

There's an abundance of stupid. That company hates you (if you are white)

And fools wonder how are we in a recession

I go every year. It's not full of just old people and influencers. Also, if you have the means, what's the issues? More people have the means to take trips like this than you may think.

I think overall attendance is actually dropping despite it being crowded on this particular video.

Idiots will keep paying for woke garbage and Disney will milk them as much as possible to fund their failed social engineering movies

That is depending on how the worls's economy@@Bruce22027

this is some hard cope@@TD75

@@TD75I honestly wasn’t super impressed when I went to Disney last year. $20 per person for a fast pass is insane. We had the genie plus too, but it doesn’t even get you that many rides.

You dodged a financial bullet man 😂

If only they had a phone number.

I dislike how so much of it is app driven. Add roaming fees to the total cost.

@@iVTECInside especially if you’re visiting from overseas. 🙄

This is the way.

This is what I find most interesting. I understand why families with lots of kids in different ages would rather do Disney than backpacking in the Alps, but I find it surprising that adults would love Disney so much that they would go with just friends or a partner. Go have fun in a real city! It's way better and half the cost!

Amen

Nice

Right?!? I spent maybe 2k on everything for my trip to Norway for three weeks in 2019.

europe is mind blowing. If your 10 disney might be better.

Do you have more details on this price comparison? Trying to convince my family to go to Tokyo before my friend that lives there moves back

@@Fhwgads11look up the price for tokyo disneyland and disneysea and convert to USD. it’s dirt cheap compared to the US parks. you can also buy tickets to the tokyo disney parks at convenience stores in japan like 7/11

That’s actually super smart!! Plus getting to experience a whole new country at the same time?! Yes please!!!

…! Is it?! They have the Duffy friends mascots there! :D this is a great idea

​@Fhwgads11 there and back flights range anywhere from 1400 to 2000$ USD per ticket Hotel prices (normal hotels, didn't check disney ones) are from 40 to 200 a night Actual park tickets depending on your age and amount of time spent are around 140-200 per person This is based off of googled amounts and doesn't include food or transport so I could be completely off, I would recommend sitting down with your family and having a conversation about it, finding places to stay and plane tickets so you have a better idea.

That’s what it felt like when I went with my fiancé

It's the holy land of American Consumerism. So yes it is a pilgrimage. One that gets worse every year.

Same as having children.

​@@random1ghost819I suggested this to my girlfriend and she was like "you crazy?"

Check out the Disney reviews on google arrange by lowest Scary wait times and crazy crowds

I FULLY agree-100%. Mr Trump even recommended the same thing (not for disney). The problem is this is a cuntry of 300 million people living together that all hate each other. So we would never get any kind of unity.

Yuppp

Bro has a plan 💀

People should and are going to Universal instead, it's both better and more affordable.

Facts ​@@Voltaic_Fire

People will splurge on just about anything. Look at the people who paid $14k to go to the Superbowl.

@@Housewarmin I'm no football fan, but at least the Superbowl is a once-a-year event acting as the championship for the entire league. If you're a big football fan, especially if one of your teams is one of those competing in it, then yea, I'd say it's at least somewhat justified to be willing to spend a lot of money on something that's such a big deal overall. But Disney? Disney's there every day, offering the same services, and the variable prices are only for selling more tickets overall, not because you're getting less or more or whatever. Hell, even as someone who doesn't like football, I'd probably sooner spend that amount of money on going to the Superbowl myself than bothering with Disney. At least with the Superbowl I'm actually going to be able to see the game, whereas with Disney I might not even get to ride the rides I want, which would be my entire reason for being in the park.

To some people, Disney is a once in a liftetime or once a decade trip. They will always spend to have the trip they want. Disney knows that, and will always go after those people. Im sure in a year or two, Genie Plus will be $100 a person, and people will STILL pay for it. @@DraconisLeonidas

I think this is the key point. It's not just that Disney Parks' profits are growing. They could theoretically get that result by gouging more money from a smaller pool of attendees. Despite how much people seem to complain, more and more customers keep going. My old coworker seems to visit WDW at least once a year. I told him at one point, "It's a nice place, but I can't justify going back because the prices are out of control." He replied by saying that was just part of the experience that you have to deal with. It's not just the people splurging for One Big Trip that are propping up the Disney theme parks. A lot of repeat customers really do just love it THAT much.

They're losing money long term. As a child/teen I used to go yearly but haven't been back in 7 years seeing how the prices just keep going up. I'm planning a trip this year but I know it's the only one I'll make for several years to Disney due to the cost. Instead my money has been going to six flags which I frequent way more often

90% of disneyland experience is you walking around in hot weather and waiting in lines for a 1 min rides..... I'd take that money and vaca somewhere else around in a exotic country with way better experience and way cheaper than Disneyland.

Exactly sir exactly

With their high prices, it really shocks me to see people so relaxed, just walking around slowly with no set plan of getting their moneys worth… some people dont seem to even get on any rides, and seem happy to just walk around, i guess thats a good thing, but it still surprises me

This must be an "american thing"! I´m from Europe and for roughly 1000$ per day i can book a mediteranian-cruise (at a private!! yacht 4 pax) or travel to the Seychelles or Maledieves instead waste my money on this crap! I can understand if someone had kids to go and see Disneyland, even it´s a "money burner"....but as an adult #Never (not even for free)

This has been my refusal to go to Disneyland again. All you do is stand in line. Even if the park pass was free, I'm not sure I would want to spend my day in lines. Plus guess who's even worse at waiting in lines than adults... kids. So you have screaming kids who are hot, thirsty, hungry, angry and impatient. Everywhere you look you pay more money. Honestly the price of food doesn't bother me as much as most people. It's the fact that you are always in line. Line for the bathroom, line to get a drink, line for the ride, line for the bus, line for lunch.

Sadly that’s the whole world. Greed is doing more damage than all the hate and wars, and is usually the cause of a lot of those wars.

Are you sure it wouldn't be the inner circle of treachery? They've betrayed Walt's dream.

"Disney" is an overqualification.

No it would be stuffed with conservatives who value money over people. Disney isn’t the problem. The American healthcare system, monopolies and capitalism that refuses to make minimum wage on par with living costs is why you can’t afford Disney.

@@user-li2yv5je5e they'd be split

Same! And with the current economic downturn in Canada (can't afford shit here!!!) No way id be able to afford to go down to the USA to go to disney world/land. Way too much $$$ in exchange rate alone. Id rather spend the hundreds/thousands you need to travel there and go elsewhere.

I went to a Disney park…..AS A FUCKING BABY. I don’t even know which one I went to and I’m only going if from stories of my parent, so this baby was most likely my big sister and not even me

Hi Mellie, I'm truly sorry to hear you've never got to live out this dream of visiting the park. I can empathize greatly. I've always been poor but knew I'd make it there one day so at 21, I got a credit card and flew to Florida. I maxed it out visiting the parks. I'm 26 and still paying it off. I wish I could say it was worth it. the parks were packed. the lines were long. the days were hot. it's hard to have memories of it when most of the time I was heat exhausted in the cues. Disney has become completely overrated sadly. I still hope one day you get to live out that fantasy when it won't financially harm you

@@UDontCare0 Nope, it won't. Corporations got a taste of REAL unadulterated greed during/after covid, with huge profits and returns, and now shareholders won't let them NOT do this kind of thing anymore. More profits, more squeezing the consumer, more, more, more.

@@UDontCare0 it won’t

ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT

"I want to pay off the house" levels coming in 2028.

2040: OK dear, ill sell my kidney...

wise man.

You pay off the house, then she files for divorce, keeps the kids, keeps the house and sells your car and makes you pay child support 😅

build*

​@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303who cares

Jesus, at least back in the day when a corporation sponsored a ride, they had the decency to come up with something original. Now they fall back on marketable IP-name recognition anyway. Fuck corporate greed.

It’s hilarious isn’t it? Universal has never once done this in the last 20 years to my knowledge, yet put up significantly better, and more immersive arguably, attractions with less money, no sponsors and at 5x the speed. Almost like Disney doesn’t care at all anymore and is focused solely on their IP and streaming while parks take a backseat to cash flow.

there's no reason for them to improve the parks. despite living costs going up more than ever, people still spend money far beyond their means to go to places like disney for vacations. their reputation is such that no matter what they do, people are always going to go to the "happiest place on earth". it's always been simply about making the money number go higher, even though disney couldve easily footed the bill on pretty much everything they make, they still seek out sponsors since it's less of a liability for them@@patrickn8355

Now they are going to slip a rainbow flag under your door LOL

I had a cast member give me 4 Fast Passes because I had a nose bleed while cueing up for Space Mountain. It wasn’t even a bad nose bleed- I had them all the time. This was also at the time of paper fast passes. Yeah, modern Disney would never do that. Better yet, I’ll never forget the joy that families would have when my family would give away our paper fast passes on the days we park hopped.

@@JAmacelaactually this is wrong disney still does stuff like that aka magical moments

Sea world Orlando is way better I'd also prefer fun spot

@@eduardovargas7366bro what

That vacations sounds absolutely incredible! You've gotta be just uninformed or completely engrossed in Disney consumerism crap to choose two days at Disney world rather than two weeks anywhere else

​@@Jodus_MacGotuss Oh, nice " consumerism crap" we term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS. "Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children! My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!) We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous! "Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy. "Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)" Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)

@@lyndafayesmusicTLDR. What?

Are you autistic? Serious question. Because your babbling to seemingly no one but yourself 😂

DisneyLand property is owned by the British Crown..look it up. The money doesn't even go back into America. That is why no one ever unalives at Disney..it's Crown Land and the biggest secret ever.

A lot of US Disney fans have started going to the out of country parks instead for that very reason.

The Oriental Land Company has been extremely hostile towards the recent changes at Disney! They are refusing to re theme splash mountain, and have been staunchly against the price hikes and anti consumer sentiment so I can’t say im shocked! Disney has been trying to fight them but thankfully their contract has helped OLC fight off these changes.

It's the same with Paris - tickets are included with the hotel price, which generally is around or under €200 a night. I've never been, so I'm no expert, but I think it's bc in the USA, Disney has legit political power in the areas where the parks are so they can pretty much do what they want, and there's not much chance of losing their customer base bc Disney adults are Disney adults. But in Europe and Asia, the parks are near capital cities, which have better tourist alternatives, other economic industries, and harder-to-manipulate local politics. They actually have to price competitively to get people through the door. I wonder how that will change now that Americans are apparently going to the cheaper international parks? Here's hoping they learn to appreciate the actual countries instead of the disney parks in them 😅

More Americans are going to the international parks than before, but it’s an extremely small percentage of the people visiting the US parks. I don’t think people going abroad will have any effect on how the US parks are run.

Tokyo Disney is run by another company. Disney has zero invovlement. That is probably a huge reason why it is so much more affordable.

I buy one every time I go! Don’t you? Lol

What kind of father would deny their daughter anything of the kind.

The man himself!

I’d buy it not for $200K 😂

@@TimoteoDeBaum Imagine not spending 200k on an ugly display castle on your 1k 1 day fun park vaction. What are you poor? (this is a joke)

Bruh where do you live where rent is 150$?! My rent is 3200

​@@ca7surferdon't play dumb Disney visit cost more then the ticket

If that’s the case you’re doing it wrong. A bit hyperbolic and unnecessary exaggeration on your part.

@@ca7surfer- Rent for maybe a 5 bedroom apartment or house? What city?

​@@ca7surfer my rent is only $450 for a 4 bed, 2 bath house in a gated community with a guard and a maid that comes in weekly. You gotta move.

I refuse to use it because #1it's too expensive and #2 It's too confusing. I'll never purchase it.

I've just seen the mess Disney has made for itself with all the different fast pass systems and I'm just confused how they get it so wrong. But I understand they just want more money so they're willing to make everything feel worse so you pay for a barely acceptable experience

Same here. I live in Orlando and make decent money, but still don't feel like going. I grew up here and remember how it used to be not so long ago, so I get a little bitter at how it is now.

@@adamstrachn Same, I could afford it but I still just resent being nickel and dimed on attractions inside the park. The whole point of the fast pass was to reduce time in line to get people elsewhere in the park spending more. They’re just dinging customers both places now.

Same, I am waiting for the old system to come back.

Why didn’t you marry him? 😂

💯

Universal is great ! We only go there and stay at their resorts but honestly it's pricey as well especially the express pass..

Went to universal in Hollywood even when you’re just looking around, it’s hella fun. Soooo many things to do for free.

@@yrbelite8450 I went with a friend to Universal Hollywood for Halloween Horror Nights, and it was a BLAST. Not cheap... it's a theme park of course but WAY more reasonable than Disney.

@@joshr6626 The express pass def makes it pricey. We did without and waited way too long to ride some things but with strategy we still rode everything we wanted that day. Def not so at Disney. :(

That's a key point; my family was lucky enough to get to go every year for a little while when I was a kid, and while my parents knew it was pricey, they at least felt like they were always getting their money's worth - the staff always went above and beyond, the experiences were varied and had something to offer for the entire family (not just the kids or just fans of a particular property), etc. There's still stuff to like there now, but the experience itself is so much more harried and stressful, the perks that were there are being removed one by one, lines are longer not just because of crowds but because of the very "solution" Disney had proposed with Lightning Lanes, and even the staff, which often tries its best, is in such a tougher situation given how much worse corporate apparently treats them today as opposed to back in the 80s-early 00s. And they want us to pay 50% *more* for all of that.

@@jmn327Michael Eisner got a lot of hate in the 2000s for the way he ran the company. In hindsight, I think we were too harsh on the guy and didn’t appreciate him enough for what he did for the company.

@@karlstrauss2330 There's definitely a lot to legitimately criticize Eisner about, and I do think there's something to the argument that he was never quite the same once Frank Wells died. However, push comes to shove, Eisner at least came in as a guy who cared about the creative side of things, and still demanded a top-notch show, even though there were moments he screwed up big time (e.g. the end of the old EPCOT Center began under his watch, the EuroDisney early shakiness, the beginning of California Adventure, etc.). While he was far from perfect, I'd take his approach over the "Harvard MBA" approach of the Bobs, where you avoid risks, make tons of cuts, and jack up prices at every opportunity.

@@jmn327 I don't think Wells death had much to do with it, even before then he was running into problem's like the opening of Eurodisney not doing as well as anticipated.

I would prefer the American parks for sure.

Probably ran better with less nonsense

Doesn't matter, Disney is still getting your money 😂.

Tokyo could definitely be cheaper.

@@MrGforce52 Tokyo Disneyland is the only resort that Disney doesn't operate. It's ran by the Oriental Land Company and the prices, while still expensive, are nowhere near as extortionate as any other Disney resort.

I just wish people would stop falling for it. It was one thing when the experience as a whole wasn't as expensive, but every year it just gets worse.

"reduce capacity" sounds like you might've put that a little backwards

@@meganegan5992wdym

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@@meganegan5992I believe OP is saying that could have reduced capacity by limiting how many people get in through ticket sales, but they won’t because they make more money by having stay longer

THat's great, don't go.

Based take. Universal Parks are amazing.

They should raise the price until it's not crowded. 20 minute wait time for the most popular ride.

Even though I really had a great experience at universal, I still don’t know why a lot of people say that universal studios has gotten way better than disney, when it’s equally expensive and crowded af as Disney. At the end of the day, both set of theme parks are great in their own way, and which is one better comes down to personal taste and preferences of attractions

Exactly. Universal is half the price and to me you get a better experience there then Disney. corporate greed has run wild at Disney. The movies that they’re putting out are not bringing in the revenue that they used to so they’re trying to make it up with the parks.

Anyone who would save for 5 years to spend 1 week at an amusement park, has their priorities wrong.

Black nazi woke Disney dont care what you think

​@@same5952I can understand why they would. If this is your dream vacation, then 5 years of saving to make it the best week of your life...well it's not a good option but it's really your only option.

Five years just to go to a theme park is an odd obsession, there must be way more interesting places in the world to visit than that.

What was your hourly wage?

Prices fluctuate in regards to local wealth. Disney in NA has become an annual exodus for the rich, people on HK don’t have as much money nor are willing to spend as much.

Interesting

@@tomman2257 of course, they wont be abused like the americans, becuase they just dont "love" disney that much.

but were all the attractions in mandarin?

@@PoetaOm Yes but, what I remember mostly everything had English subtitles or a translation posted :)

Not a fun experience anymore sadly.

Yeah i feel like this with disney world. Cant say ive been there pre covid - but disney world now seems to have workers who are a little grumpy, the people visiting the park are a little hostile and stressed. Was it always like that ?

lol it was trash and expensive in 2013 as well

@@user-wh1gd5iz3e It's because every young person today is being told their life sucks and that all work is the slavery of capitalism. Forget doing your best and having a good attitude to earn your pay; instead, you are entitled to a life of free-everything and infinite happiness, and all employers are capitalist pigs who are forcing you to do work just to survive. Come to work with that mindset, and there's _no way_ you'd have a good attitude about anything.

Did you go during 2 different seasons? That could impact your trip a lot

For context the last time I went was in 2016 when I was 12, so I didn’t have to worry about prices obviously. But now as an adult, I’d literally never go back unless they change their ways. But even if I was super rich I still wouldn’t go because this place is a woke cesspool and I hate the political hill they insistently choose to die on at every chance they can get. Boom 🤣💀

Go To Universal Studios, They Really Want To Please The Guest To Make Sure They Return... Disney With Their Woke Trash Movies And Now Milking Their Parks For The Most Money A Person Could Ever Spend In A Day, To Recoup From Their Box Office Failures, That's The Reason Disney Parks Are So Expensive, BECAUSE THEIR MOVIES ARE BAD

Who cares about what you want, when your kid tells you that’s the only place they want to go, you go…

​@@onlythebest3311 If you can't say "no" to your kids, that's a you problem

@@onlythebest3311 I Replace Disney With Harry Potter, So The Kids Have Better Standards

Disney dug its own grave. Its associated with pure consoomerism goy-slop now. Disney World is infested with 30 year old adults instead of kids.

I doubt that this is so. It is far more likely Disney would prefer repeat customers. At Disney World, they clearly simply do not have the capacity. It is not price gouging because the price structure is necessary to maintain the basic premise of the park- that you can get tickets without a 3 year wait and have access to at least most of the attractions you want. If the prices were cheap as demand increases, the lines would become endless, the crowding insufferable, and simply being able to get into the park at all extremely hard for most people. There's no "Disney Magic" in that experience either.

You know what Disney thinks of their customers? Suckers!

It has to be a once, or maybe twice, in a lifetime vacation unless you are loaded

Sadly, it feels as if most Americans can’t afford a Disney vacation, ever. This is due to U.S. wage growth and Disney price increases

Actually turning you away from ride is what Disney WANTS The less rides you get to do in a day, the more tickets you'll have to buy for a CHANCE to ride them the next day Disney has learned that keeping lines as long as possible makes them more money Stay away from Disney

This is something super common with themed parks, sadly. I live near a big park and the amount of money visitors spend is astounding. I used to work in a hostel nearby and people were genuinely excited to go (many came from other countries too), until they returned in the evening and told me how much they spent and how little they enjoyed the place. A family of four spent 100 euros for "skip line" tickets and despite that they waited hours to get to the rollercoaster, to me it's insane and also sad, since the park used to be super affordable and fun once...

It's amazing how many people are willing to put up with the lines at all. It's kind of insane...considering you're paying a hundred dollars a person just to get in the door and get the chance to stand in those lines. But it's unavoidable, I guess.

The reason the tron ride is operates this way is because the parks are way too crowded…it would have a waiting line across all of Tomorrowland. When the reservations open on the app at 7am, you have about 10-15 seconds to opt in or all reservations are given out for the day. The parks are less fun because they’re too crowded

I purchased a discount conference ticket in September. It was still $89, but better than $150.

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I could spend hours going to professional sporting event for less money they he spent on a minute long ride.

Perfect to buy Helldivers 2

Or go to Universal instead. Screw Disney

That's a week or half a week of groceries.

My birthday was just yesterday and I spent like 50 dollars on baldurs gate 3 and got more enjoyment out of it lmao

They don't need loyal customers. There are hundreds of millions of future tourists to the US who will go and millions of upper class families who reside in the US who can easily afford all the add-ons.

​@@aoe4_kachow this is the answer. They don't care about retention, or quality or giving customers value because theres always that family whos never gone and are willing to drop 15-20k on their Disney world vacation.

​@@aoe4_kachow People thought the MCU was too big to fail just a few years ago, too, and I reluctantly believed them at that time. Now I know better than to underestimate just how much a negative reputation can chip away at a brand. It may take years though since some people need to experience the disappointment of modern WDW themselves to know how bad it is.

I can bedazzle that myself for 500 bucks 😂

But it's one of fifty!

Its crazy you can just buy it in the gift shop

You can buy a house with that.

How do you take it home? Or at least they include shipping?

I don't think people get supply side economics, Disney is fine with losing a few guests, the remaining guests more than make up for their loss because they are willing to pay too much. This is the economic model for just about everything now, if you don't want to pay too much for rent, fine, be homeless. I have 4000 vacant apts in my neighborhood in Atlanta, they are still making more keeping them empty and charging people a supply side price they are willing to pay.

That was their plan. Virtual que and you’ll walk around spending more money while you wait. You won’t spend money if you’re stuck in line

I think they could really easily fix their streaming performance by backing off the pc agenda, but maybe they’ll learn their lesson eventually

I'm that nigga I hope that's ok to say around here Daddy

@@ImReadyD151 It has nothing to do with "PC Agenda" no matter how much you tell yourself that. You see, most reasonable people aren't bothered by it. Unless they live in DeSantistan...

@@ImReadyD151 I couldn't agree more. They keep pandering to a non existent audience and pushing away everyone else. They scream about conservatives, men are bigots and whatnot, but it's everybody at the end of the day. The numbers prove that.

@@ImReadyD151”pc agenda” isn’t the real issue it’s more of a symptom. I’m sure you’ve seen at least one good movie or show that had a genuinely compelling character that fits that demographic. The real problem is out of touch studios listening to writers who don’t care about the source material they are adapting.

I agree completely.

Ditto! We’ve been all over the country traveling spending our ‘Disney money’ elsewhere until they fix the ‘fast pass’ nonsense

It's almost like there are different market forces at play in Tokyo. 🤔

Honestly, Japan is just a better country in general lol. Everything's cleaner. People are so much nicer. It's so much safer. And it despite what everyone says, Japan is so much cheaper than the US. It's not Thailand but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

Great! But what's it cost to get to Japan ??????????????

Yeah but it's still woke narrative pushing Disney...

@@SomethingSomethinggspoken like someone who never lived in Japan

Exactly. And since Disney is a company and not some public property, they have every right to decide any price point they want to sell there product.

When they opened, Disneyland cost ~$10 to get in, this included the entrance and about 10 ride tickets. Walt Disney's intent was to build a marvelous place where middle class families could bring their children for an affordable vacation.

It reminds me of that scene in Jurassic Park where the lawyer says "we can charge whatever we want and people will pay it." and John Hammond responds "but I want everyone to visit Jurassic Park, not just the super-rich". At some point, Disney stopped listening to the John Hammonds and started listening to the bloodsucking lawyers.

Honestly, it's baffling to me that people don't understand this. It's a business, and there are people willing to pay whatever for their product(even if they don't have the money). A business will push up their prices both to make money AND reduce demand to help create lighter crowds/even out demand throughout the year.

@@bmcclure3atgatech Right, but they don't HAVE to. Costco, by contrast, charges less than they have to for a lot of their products, such as hotdogs, to maintain customer loyalty. As a result, I have a large portion of my retirement savings invested in Costco, and zero retirement savings invested in Disney. Ask me how my portfolio has done over the past five years.

Lmao my family went the day Irma was supposed to hit and it was legit the best experience ever 😂

I grew up near a Cedar Fair park and had a pass there for a few years, and if the weather was inconvenient at all but not so bad it closed the rides, it was the best.

same with cruising 🚢

@@lexa_powerThe only cruise I’ve ever been on was a Disney Cruise during hurricane season! It did rain the day we stopped at Castaway Cay, but they stayed an extra day for us to be able to enjoy the island! To this day it’s the most relaxing vacation I’ve ever been on and I’ve nearly convinced my partner that it should be our next vacation.

When we lived in fla., we were always warned to "stay away from METAL" of all kinds, during tornados or hurricanes? We had friends who shoed horses and rebuilt their automobiles; THEIR kids had so much fun they never even ASKED to go to Disneyland! FIX IT SHOPS AND HORSES can be educational AND fun. Look up above your comment; Those who visited Disneyland in TOKYO saved allot of money! With all of their profits and land purchases evident, you'd think they could have provided a WAITING ROOM WITH CHILD CARE FACILITIES for those people instead of CRAMMING them all in to suffer! Welcome to the new America; Charge more, provide less, make profits your goal! The Disney of the 70's was great as it was, but then EVERYTHING gets expanded upon to make money to be followed ? Perhaps if the space aliens could come here to intervene before mankind shoots itself dead in the foot, there could be hope. WE pray if Walt can "return to us " someday, he could design a BIG ANTI WAR MACHINE for us! Ha, I guess enjoying riding you own little Shetland pony would have not incited enough excitement and would have required skill?! Better to dream of mice that talk and bears that are stuffed, and rockets that soar in the air and kill people, right ? If Disney had KEPT designing more rides LIKE The "Pirates of the Carribean,", and "displays with dissertations" such as, i.e. like, the Abe Lincoln speech, it seems more of Walt's ORIGINAL IDEAS might have continued successfully! "This world, That world,"and expansions etc. may not have done allot to help "educate children" as Walt had thought! (Just my opinion regarding "education versus entertainment!) Of course it DID successfully provide more JOBS for employees! One former commenter said " consumerism crap" WE term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS. "Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children! My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!) We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous! "Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy. "Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)" Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children in Spanish, French & Italian with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)

Same it really sucks now I can’t even afford it anymore

You said it. Weeding out the poor.

I feel like, no matter how much we lie and kid ourselves, there will always be a love for Disney as an arthouse- the bold, the brave, the beautiful. Disney as a corporation, ever since... well, depends who you ask; for a while now, they have trampled over the image of the art. Now, even the art has become formulaic, dull, and predictable. As much as I hope for another Renaissance to give the creatives some breathing room, we can't count on luck. Such is life. ...On the bright side, at least Universal's Orlando parks are still vaguely affordable, even if they are premium.

They didn’t already lose your respect when they decided writing fun kids movies was no longer important but instead pushing politics and activism?

@@jasonbfhfj8132 oh boy, here we go again......

And also, you have Disney Land outside Paris that is pretty ok also. If one really like those things.

@@wowJhilAnd it’s a lot more affordable than US Disney!

I went to Bordeaux, it cost me 1600 $

I guess if you stayed in a hostel in France. Otherwise nope

@@dsjjmv7546 Not really, you can find affordable rooms in hotels or guesthouses as well - keep in mind it doesn't have to be a 5-star one in a big city. If you stay at one of the small towns on the coast and not the more popular destinations like Nice, Cannes, Marseille etc, it's a lot more affordable. Also if you go off-peak it's cheaper. And for Southern France it's great - mid-summer is way too hot there anyway, but you can get good deals for a holiday in May or September when it's still nice and warm.