Wow GN, way to bully Jay into pulling his positive review video of the RTX 4060 Ti... 😆😉 "Thanks, Steve!"

Can you guys test the GDDR6X 3060ti and see if it outperforms the 4060ti? Because that would be really embarrassing if so

hi, you say a lot of "academic", what academy are you refering to?

Speaking of 2016 wanting its resolution back (1080p) - I've been trying to request that games provide more useful system requirements, e.g. based on 1440p 144hz High Preset RT OFF. This is getting increasingly more needed, perhaps you can encourage them also.

Nvidia will tell you it's because of drivers.

Does nvidia think we are gonna buy the gpus?

It's an upsell. I ended up buying a 4090 for AI gen/degen. Every good game runs on Steam Deck anyway.

The 4070ti was a MASSIVE BESTSELLER, who the fuck ever said the 4070ti was "do not buy"!? Plenty of people bought it.

The 4070ti is actually pretty good in its series. Just nowhere close to the value of ampere cards at MSRP.

@@Wobbothe3rd best seller in a gen that's down how hard?

Underrated comment!

This is the best comment here hahaha 😂

When they do, Steve will say he's kind of disappointed. Not "waste of sand" or a half hour rant. Just kind of disappointed.

It's actually the opposite. Nvidia is releasing garbage because it knows AMD screwed up with RDNA3 and wont offer much uplift this gen. So the order is more AMD screwed up -> Nvidia tries to milk the market with garbage products.

Unfortunately, GPU wise, they seem to be completely satisfied with the status quo that Nvidia has set.

It will cost 350 for some reason.

@@evacody1249 more like 350 per month subscription

4020ti for 420p gaming

... at a fair, pre-Covid price. what's that?... the ship's sailed away?

They really don't care about the gamer market anymore. They just care about AI and data centers now. Their product line up and pricing if proof of that. You can buy their overpriced crap and be happy about it, or they will just sell to enterprise customers who are happy to get the chips. This is the dark ages of gamer GPUs all over again.

​@@TTech321 I'm still using an RX 570 with 8 gigs of VRAM from pre COVID times.

>Intel has entered the chat

50 series may be the last consumer GPU they release if they keep going like this. This last year, data center became their leading sales channel, and it's supposed to 10x over the next 7 years. If that's the case, then I wouldn't expect them to want to devote any of their production capacity away from AI.

Too bad half of nvidia buyers cannot switch due to CUDA and AI monopoly.

​@@kazioo2 ?

@@kazioo2 nigga wut...?

😂

@@nmbtw1003 Nvidia is literally the only option for profesional use

Inflation 🤑

Thats exactly what it is and JayzTwoCents called it a triumph, the video is deleted now lol.

​@@shangrilaladeda technical Deflation?

It has 16gb and fake frames. I think thats enough selling points for ppl thats just scared to try amd or intel

​@@shangrilaladeda price gouging.... Stop masking it with pandemic overcharging bs "muh chip shortage" tier garbage. Gas should be 10 dollars but its being heavily controlled by whete we live. Beef should be 20 for the worst cuts but it's not. Nvidia has pivoted away from the consumer yet its still what keeos them going.

Im not a bathroom humour type of guy but this one really works. 😅

Mainly because no bugger could buy a card for 2 years due to being out of stock or way way overpriced ;). Try keeping the cards to a realistic price and people will buy (but not this card which according to reviews sucks eggs).

pretty sure it happened when they farted out the 4070 ti.

I mean, I bought a 16gb vram model, but I was also upgrading from a rx 570 lmao

@@trask9100 Idk, intel processors seem to be doing fine. AMD will definitely overtake Nvidia if this keeps up (the only reason the 4090 was so powerful is because they just slammed that bitch with as much wattage as they could). As for intel cpus, they definitely need to find a better way of getting more out of them, though they did hint of a total redesign of their architecture after the 13900k basically peaked what they architecture could do

@@trask9100 AMD has been plodding along in 2nd place for so long in the GPU and CPU markets that I'm not sure if they'll know what to do once they reach 1st place in both. Either way, with AI being such a huge thing right now and for the foreseeable future, I'm going to guess gamers and other casual PC users are already an afterthought for all 3 companies.

Is it just me who thinks that companies should have their assets seized if they over-earn? Like if you have 500 employees, and you can afford to pay all their paychecks and keep a lot in reserve and if you still make about the 200fold of that, that this 200fold should be taken away for the public interest and/or distributed to the public?

@@DarkoLuketic Yes, just you. And communists. And that Pikety guy, but I'm pretty sure he's a dirty commie too.

@@DarkoLuketic Yes communism, worked always great throughout history

As if Nvidia are the only ones doing that. Every tech company is a joke rn

@@crylune NVIDIA makes poor value AMD cards look good. 7900XT looks more appealing every day - especially for 4K.

​@@dragontales1999 ARC...

​@@dragontales1999 delusional cope. The 7600 is vastly worse than the 4060ti, not even close.

@@Wobbothe3rd 6700XT

it's mad how far GN and LTT have moved apart.

Linus gave a lukewarm review. Really seems like his standard for quality is getting worse, or hes suddenly earning more

its f*cking stupid. 😂

@@hebleh5771 not sure what you watched because he seemed pretty down on the card. pointing out the mem bus and stupid cost of ram etc. only thing he was positive about was the DLSS and AV1.

@@hebleh5771 Linus slated the card what you talking about 😂 Everyone has! apart from JayzTwoCents... But he soon took his video down after realising 🤣

@@eT6d3dCJ5kBg9rEypHxbxT 3050, 4060, 4060 Ti are 8x lanes only according to Wikipedia. Of all things, this is what nVidia has taken from AMD's book, or so it seems. "great"... I actually don't know if 8x vs 16x is significantly bad like 4x turned out to be...

The bandwidth of the PCI-E 3.0 exceeds this GPUs data rate, so no loss of performance.

@@MikeHammer1 I'm not sure if that is entirely accurate ... I understand this 8 lane card would be using 8 lanes of PCI-E 3.0, not the full 16 lanes of the bus., with a data rate of 7.88 GB/s. Card theoretically has a higher data rate then that. Please let me know if my conclusions are wrong here. I would expect there to at least be a small degradation in performance

@@joelewing4216 There is truth to what you wrote. First, I was aware that Nvidia dropped the number of bits on the memory bus from 256 to 128, but not that they also cut the PCI-E lanes used in half. With only 8GB of VRam some games will run slower on a PCI-E 3.0 system. This has been proven by some UKpostsrs who tested the card on both systems. Most games run on a PCI-E 3.0 system ran with less than a 2% FPS reduction. There were some worst cases that were down almost 10%, but would not likely affect playability as the reduction did not seem to cause any visual stuttering or excessively low frame rates. Nevertheless, shame on Nvidia for making the 4060 Ti actually be such a poor performer. When I recently decided to upgrade from my ancient (10 year old) 1GB ATI graphics card I looked at both the 3060 Ti and 4060 Ti and decided on the 3060 Ti as it was $130 less and would run anything at 1080 and 1440P without issue. Both cards will run 4K, but at reduced quality. As my core i7 4771 intel based system has PCI-E 3.0, I am glad I made that decision. FYI, I bought an Asus TUF 3060 Ti for $320, new. The TUF 4060 Ti model was running $450 at the time. I am happy with my decision. I wanted to buy a new graphics card back in 2020, but I refused to be scalped by prices over MSRP.

@@joelewing4216 Nope, this is COMPLETELY and totally incorrect. PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 has literally NO effect on a 3090 at x16, as tested by gamers nexus and others. At x8, this gpu should be totally under the available bandwidth. Gpus dont ever saturate PCIe 3.0, at least on x16. I thought this PCI gpu bandwidth rumor stopped being a thing around 2017...

Keep in mind, this is a wild suggestion from your part.

If not for AMD you mean.

Keep in mind, 4080 16GB is $500 more than the gpu it replaces.

@@rethla lol, lmao even

Keep in mind, Bidenflation

Yep, keeping it real with useless products.

one of the most based people ive ever seen, and he puts effort into everything

Fr

one of the few people on the internet i know won't lie to me

I find it really funny that the 4060Ti review on another channel says "thanks" to nvidia in the title. After watching both videos, I believe GN's video does a much better job of painting the correct picture of the 4060Ti.

its 4050 named 4060ti

2070 and 2070 SUPER sub 150$ is the best value at the moment.

Inflation exists. And this crushes the 2070 Super.

@@Wobbothe3rd how much are they paying you for the fanboy comments?

@@Wobbothe3rd still has a pathetic bus, doesn't effect gaming performance much, but indicates how they are cutting costs in manufacturing just to increase their own profit margins.

@@jeder6915 lol they wont pay this crack nvidia knows such low iq people exist so why would they waste their money and nvidia is way too greedy now imagine with 1500$ we could build a high end gaming pc in 2017 while now only rtx 4090 costs 1500$ lol

a downclocked might

Shit, i would just get a 30 series card if you need to upgrade, 40 series ain’t worth it

love pascal generation I must say, i replaced the GTX1080 with RTX4070 and the performance boost is huge. but still expensive imo. if u have strong cpu and 600-650W psu i would say wait a little and grab 4070 with game bundle like diablo 4 ect.

At 1080ti it can even give you RTX on some titles. 11gb of RAM is a big bonus.

*sweats in GTX1650* In all honesty, I think it depends on the usage a lot. I play exclusively single player games so I'm happy averaging 50 FPS and 1080p medium is good enough most of the time. If I had a 1080Ti I know I'd be set for at least 2 years with my usage habits.

At a time when games didn't need as much VRAM at high or ultra settings.

@@flinx Did someone said "Doom-Eternal"?

my gtx 1080 was marketed as a 4k card lol

Definitely not a 4K card now since nVidia wants to lock DLSS3

​@@flinx "at the time" is such a stupid statement. Obviously older games are not going to take advantage of the newest VRAM sapping technologies like ray tracing. It's incredibly stupid to ignore the passage of time and new game releases to defend a card that should've had more

Yeah, but this isn't comedy... this is tragic. :))

It would not have been such a big deal if they only did a little cost cut. $320 is a bit of a joke. Maybe sell it for $250.

Too be fair it not just NVIDIA. I think AMD is charging too much too just not as bad. Maybe Moor's law is dead.

@@aserta tragedy and comedy are but two sides of the same coin: Nvidia

people will still buy it.. If people would stop buying this crap and force them to change.. until then there is no hope

who even uses dlss on 1080p tho? they are marketing it for 1080p no one uses dlss at that res cuz it looks hot trash

Exactly, software is higher margin business. They seem desperate to keep their bubble stock price afloat.

@@regardzz Exactly. I love DLSS, it allowed me to play most games at 1440p on my *2060* before i switched to AMD, but it was never designed for 1080p, only Quality really looks ok and that doesn't give nearly enough of a performance upgrade.

yeah as soon as I saw dlss gimmick coming I knew it they don't want to give us raw pure performance uplifts but upscaling gimmick bs this might be another reason why they killed sli because 8k gaming was actually playable on dual cards with at least 24gb of vram in games that supported sli I feel if they decide to bring sli back next generation they will charge even more for the top cards on blackwell.

@@regardzz DLSS indeed looks like shit at 1080p. DLSS is a great alternative to checkerboarding up to 4K imo but using it as a crutch to market this card is embarrassing. It's shady how Nvidia doesn't really market DLAA (which I think is great for 1080p) because then it would be obvious how little improvement to raw power there has been

maybe they knew?

EVGA was told what was coming.

He knows

Oh they definitely knew and were the proverbial canary..

I'm still in disbelief that EVGA video cards are a thing of the past like 3DFX. I bought so many EVGA cards over the years, and loved them.

Not even remotely true.

absolute zoomlet take

While I'm not fully convinced, I do agree that honest hardware reviews are very good to have.

GN rips apart whatever garbage regardless of its size and the size of the manufacturer. It's about steve being steve and not steve being large.

Gamer Nexus is from 2008 and always been very honest and with great hair.

I know right? This should be a 50 class card.

What really is insane is the 4080 launching at $500 more than the 3080, that's pure insanity right there.

And this 4070ti should be a 4060TI....

Nothing changed about the lower skus. The only one that changed was the 4080 12gb to a 4070 Ti. 4070 Ti simply wasn't going to exist in any capacity when these were announced. RTX 4070 and anything lower than it were sold as planned spec and name-wise.

​@@BryAlrightythat's pretty logical, but we're talking about nvidia here

I have a 12700K waiting for a worthwhile graphics card on a good price. I'm playing indies and old AAA games at this point. (you wonder why i have the niche 12700K CPU, i do heavily CPU intensive work). I'm dreaming about a 3080Ti that a privileged friend has.

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Yeah, looking at the power use, this is like a 4055ti, or an over powered 4050ti, as it's just above the power limit of the PCIe connector, and needing a molex power.

Lots of gaslighting in the comments trying to disguise this fact.

That's why you ALWAYS look at price/performance. That way it doesn't matter what die size / product name it carries. It's just awfully priced like every current gen GPU is.

What's concerning is that if this is supposed to be the 4050 based on die size and name and power draw, then the 4060 is actually some kind of 4040 low profile thing and the inevitable 4050 is - got help us all - actually supposed to be a 4030. Nah, don't like that. Not one bit.

That would have been fine if they had actually lowered MSRPs proportionally. They should just unlaunch it all like they did with the 4080.

they keep "hold my beer"'ing

NVIDIA did it, they are trying to upsell everybody to a 4090😂

4070 was not unfavorably reviewed by GN, you're thinking of 4070ti.

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 This made me cackle out loud XD

You'll likely hear it soon again when the regular 4060 launches.

I think 480p gaming is not out of the question with retro gaming being so popular!

"But DLSS 4.0 is amazing!"

That is LITERALLY the same thought I had at some point while watching this video. Like, "Wait, so if Nvidia's tacit admittance of the 4060Ti 8GB's very poor gen-on-gen perf improvement is to market it as a 1080p card...what's next? GPU advertising in 2023 unironically touting the performance of an entry level GPU, like a 4050 or something, at 720p?!"

i need a 144p GPU for my nokia 8210 so i can play harryspotter at 3000fps

@@celphtitled8284 "That'll be $609.69, please." - Nvidia

just for nvidia

@@justinc2633 AMD still has RT issues, it’s no longer a gimmick, entire games are being built on RT, and while AMD cards perform far better on Raster, being slower on RT locks out a ton of new releases

Only on the consumer side because its not as profitable as enterprise.

Competition drives everything. AMD made a comeback on the CPU market, driving competition and thus resulting in massive increases in both core counts and performance at both AMD and Intel. The opposite has happened on the GPU market. AMD has fallen behind, especially when it comes to RT and software features, resulting in complete market dominance by NVIDIA and thus a total lack of improvements apart from a few very expensive halo products such as the 4090.

@@Undecided_ "It's no longer a gimmick" LOL

JHH literally said in an investor meeting that he wants GeForce GPU to sell at the price of a home console at least. Here it is.

yep 👌

It's hard to recommend PC gaming to people right now, especially since a lot of PC ports stutter like crazy.

Would perform worse than a ps5 too because games aren't optimised at all on PC

@@arthurb5194 I would, except only for the used market. Not worth buying anything new right now. Sticking with my 2080 for another generation at least.

when benchmarks improve the melting starts

I need that on a t-shirt!

....and if that doesn't help, call the comissar! Just not Cain!

You really oughta start doing more interesting things with your weeks

​@@thrace_bot1012 Take your own unsolicited advice, since you clearly can't detect blatant jokes because of how detached you are

If your PSU can handle it, that card exists. It's called the 6700xt/6750xt

@@TonyChan-eh3nz thanks, Ive been thinking about that as well. The reason Im leaning more towards Nvidia side is because of their new features they introduced with RTX 40 series and since im playing lot of older games Im also very interested in RTX mods...and while I know the mods themselves ofc can work on AMD GPUs as well, Nvidia GPUs are bit better for them thanks to somewhat better raytracing capability But like said Im not in a rush, Im propably gonna wait till 2025 when the RTX 50 series is supposed to be launchee and see what the prices are then for 12GB GPU and if RTX 50 series would be able to offer better budget card options than the 40 series did. Overall this is one of the main reasons why I moved from PC gaming to being mainly console gamer since sometimes I just get headache of trying to find the best possible hardware options for me and because the prices of GPUs have just blown through the roof in recent years. I just hope that things would get better in that regard soon enough with the inflation and all that

I wouldn't say $150, but it sure isn't worth more than $300 in its 16GB variant

this isn't 10 years ago, everything got more expensive, food, vehicles, life.

Alright calm down there 300 is fine it's not only the factory cost you also gotta include the workers and research into that calculation

​@@snugsel5412That would MAYBE be valid if you were talking about a 50$ price hike, this pricing is hilariously bad.

I get the feeling the 4090 was supposed to be a 4080, 4080 a 4070, 4070 a 4060, 4060 a 4050...but they rebadged them and charged 50% more than they are worth...

Im happy. Guess Nvidia fucking around and AMDs halfhearted counters left an opening! :D

Intel does hold the scaling crown, at 1080p it competes in its price class, but at 1440p, it competes with cards $100 more. Ditto with RT. When Battlemage comes out, AMD will be embarrassed with RT and Nvidia will be so ashamed it just makes server cards for a generation.

I am extremely interested in what Battlemage will bring to the market.

Planning a Linux computer with Intel and Intel Gpu.

@@thepathnotfound radeon card is still your best bet for linux systems

The 6750xt is just an OC'ed 6700xt.

It's a 3060. Actually it's faster because of the 11gb vram and overclock headroom is around 15-20% those old gpus had alot of potential power from oc.

1080 Ti boomers rise up

Still running dual 1080Ti's in SLi :D

@@Todger182 I used to do that too, on water blocks and custom bio, I bought a 7900XT and it's much much faster :D

Nvidia is more stable though, the odd amd driver crashes are irritating (not full system) it does usually recover but still yeah should have got a 4080

It performs the same as the previous-gen card despite reduced memory bandwidth but adds DLSS 3 which greatly increases performance at no cost... I can't really say I fully understand the complaints. None of Steve's charts include DLSS3 for some reason. Disappointment comes from the gap between expectation and reality. Did anyone expect this card to be cheap in light of recent events? Does anyone think AMD will do better? Only Intel is playing the value game right now, and it makes sense because from very recent first-hand experience, their drivers are a pile of ass. I have a 3080 I'm not looking to replace until 5000 or 6000, but I'd LOVE this in a laptop.

​@@AFistfulOf4K let me ask you, does DLSS3 works in all games?

​@@AFistfulOf4K"greatly improves performance at no cost" Damn, and here I thought Nvidia couldn't possibly get away with their shitty sliders and dlss3 false advertising, but I guess the less tech savvy will fall for anything. There's a reason why nobody is praising DLSS3 as the solution to everything, we didn't ask for it, we certainly won't enjoy it in every single game, and it's certainly not a selling point.

​@@gabrielmarques1965 I personally hate dlss, makes the games blurry and textures to look awful. I think it's just a gimmick like ray tracing. I

​@A Fistful of 4K Because efficiency and features are supposed to be BONUSES to getting a new GPU, not the whole pitch. The 4060 TI being better overall than the 3060 TI for the same price (except sometimes it's actually worse) is an extremely low bar to clear

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someone is gonna get fired :D

Some less tech savvy people will bought it as some retail store will recommend it to clear stock

Well Diablo is already beginning to publish 720p requirements ;D

@@master8127 sometimes I look into the minimum requirements for games on Steam. And a few times I saw "720p 30fps" as a additional note to the minimum requirements. At some point we start to compare to the Wii again.

Msi AFterburner with a 3% power bump will get you a 4060ti for free! 🤣🤣🤣

@@bernardb5251 LMAO

@@bernardb5251 i got 320w limit and 2240 core clock, 3060ti ftw

LOL! True! I thought my 3060ti was about to be done for on value, even more so, uh, not so much!

@@bigcazza5260 WOW, really? My 3060ti is a lot more aggressive on watts than my 3070 leans too, but if I pull it back on performance enough to make it more efficient for work loads, the 3070 pulls back ahead for how much it gets done in how many watts. Never tried pushing high watts, wasn't ever my goal.

Battlemage will be disruptive.

The following "Thanks Steve" killed me.

The RTX 4070 Ti runs a full x16 lanes, and it only needs at bit more power 200W (vs this RTX 4060 Ti that needs 160W). Either card is usable for your PSU, I believe the 4060 is recommended for 500W PSUs, so a 650 is plenty for either card. The RTX 4070 Ti is about $550 vs $330 for the 4060.... though the performance improvement is real. If you're machine is less than 5 years old, you REALLY don't want this 4060, its already pushing the limit for 2K depending on the game. Either would be an improvement over the GTX 1060, but if the 4070 is far faster at 2K, 3K, 4K etc simply due to the bandwidth of having x16 lanes active.

this is budget card. what do you expect?

Thanks Steve

@@nnnnnn3647 It's four hundred dollars.

@@DenebTM ok. cheap/

Budget card. It's better than last gen, and cheaper if you take Bidenflation into account

Then a 2017 card (GTX 1080Ti) proceeds to make a 2023 "1080p" card as irrelevant.

it's not NVIDIA's doing, it is the fact that games are utilizing much higher levels of graphic fidelity, including ray tracing, than they were back in 2016, while also being blatantly lazy with their PC ports. as a reminder, DOOM Eternal can run on max settings including ray tracing at around 60 FPS on a 3060 Ti. add DLSS into the mix and you're golden. turn of ray tracing or go down to 1440p and you're golden. the fact that modern AAA games can't reach this level is 100% on the devs and the engine they're using, not NVIDIA who is just the messenger.

@@saricubra2867 you'll be paying close to the same price for a 1080 Ti and won't have (good) access to ray tracing or DLSS unless you buy it used, and i'm not sure buying a used card from 6 years ago is a good idea to begin with. that is to speak nothing about their performance levels in comparison.

"AFFORDABLE 4K GAMING FOR EVERYONE IS JUST A GEN OR TWO AWAY" - people in 2014.

@@beegxxc9832 Yeah blame lazy development

5060 will launch at 3070 performance level for 200 dollars more

​@@teddyholiday8038 we bring rtx50 to mainstream with dlss4 (64bit 8gb card)

@@Somanybot 😂

But there is no generational improvement...

@@amsutton22 improvement in price

@@runescapefan0001 idk man, I still think a majority of people would not be very excited if Nvidia had said “here’s the 3060Ti with DLSS 3 and AV1, but now it’s $250.” Like that would certainly be better than what we got, but Steve’s point about a 1080p card with this level of performance in 2023 is just a lame duck of a product.

@@amsutton22 if it was $250 and called a 4050ti though

its a 50 series die though , if mean if was actually a 60 series gpu at 250 the. yeah thats good value

Anything is a upgrade from a 1650 tbh

why even upgrade from a midrange card of the previous gen?

If you are strict on budget, consider the 3060ti or intel arc. If you can stretch your budget a little, get a 4070. It's one of the few cards of the 40 series that isn't total dog shit and is ok in preformance.

The 4050 is already out...

@@Wobbothe3rd For laptop...yes

Shut up, recognize Bidenflation

3060, 3060ti or 6700xt

@@GaminingTubewhy not 6600/6600xt/6650xt

4060 is just really 4050... Invidia obviously shifted the model numbers. 40 series Is not bad, it's just stupidly expensive. They moved the numbers up so people would feel less the increase in price.

The look on his face at 13:17 is just fucking priceless. LOL!

4070 ti is fine. Price to performance ratio is almost on par with 3080 and 6900 XT, at least in my country.

The puns & jokes had me hard laughing. Great review, if you want entertainment. If you're genuinely interested in the product then... Yikes.

@Nuril Nuril I enjoyed those quite a lot, myself! I really appreciate that GN did not hold back here. That is, after all, WHY I found this so carhartic: plain statement of facts followed essentially by "NVIDIA, BRUH..."

If you can withstand the vram temp issues then yes

That's the point. Cause they are still trying to move that merchandise. ?080 has been roughly been about 80% of the performance of their best card. Not 55%! Lol 4000 series is as a whole outside of a 4090 is a waste of time, and 4090 is a waste of money.

@@wastanley734 Crunching bacon chips with a 4090, was not a waste of money

@@wastanley734 the 4090 gets away with the price because it's by far the best graphics card out there, it's still a rip off but well is the top dog so it doesn't feel that bad

@@SinNumero_no41 it gets away with the price cause people are foolish enough to buy it at that price. If people would stop believing them and stop buying it then prices would plummet! Cause that's what they want you to believe!

AMD 6700 XT is the best price-for-performance at that range. There's no reason to be buying only Nvidia forever. That kind of brand loyalty is why this ridiculous shit is even occurring.

Same for 1080ti. This thing matches or beats a 3060, which isn't a big difference away from a 3060ti/4060ti.

Same...I'm still using my GTX1080 and I hope it doesn't die, at least until the end of the year...

right

Bruh, just buy the mid-tier radeons that will likely come out in a few months

@@manuelsputnik for 1.5-1.7x improvement only?

Didnt they do the exact same thing with the 4070 or something, leading to another major flop?

This card is a 60 non-ti series, priced as a 70 series. Nvidia's greed is unbelievable.

@@internetguy1260 Yeah. See guy below you. It's basically a 60 card charged at 80 prices and called a "70 series" despite the fact GTX 780 was $600, 980 was a $550 card, GTX 1070 was $380, 5700XT was still $400 and it was literally Turing that they began jacking prices which they changed to $500 and $700 the 70 and 80 cards. Then they had the fuckin audacity to call it "great value" because they began being astronomical with 2080ti prices so they honest to God in 2020 tried to advertise the $500 3070 as "fantastic value" even though not long before it would've been a $400 card, and we see now how badly made that GPU was with some of us even before release grumbling about how big an impact the VRAM was going to have. I had no earthly idea they would STILL refuse to put 16gb on their cards and keep trying to use 8gb. It's dead on arrival. 8gb is not even good enough to enable raytracing at 1080p ultra. It WILL lag, stutter, and crash at that bad VRAM, like the 3070 did on TLOU with ultra settings or Hogwarts using up all that VRAM and there isn't any real way to "optimize" for it without ruining texture quality. You can't upscale around it either, you wind up with bad looking muddy textures. So it was already a problem before alleged 4060ti yes, and yeah pricing was already a problem since years ago. They been making consistently worse product and charging ever more prices and it's clear their whole plan all along was to slowly turn water temperature up and hope the frog doesn't hop out the pot too soon. They were going to keep doing this forever until enough gamers finally abandoned the brand entirely. Some type of people will push up on you and they literally will not stop until you throw a punch and set boudnaries. That is why we have police and military in the first place, because some guys like that get to power and the only way to deal with them is hit them in the face and tell them to stop or the beatings continue. Such case is nvidia right now. They realized they could keep increasing price and their customer would still buy it no matter what, so they wondered if they could just rename lesser cards as higher end and keep selling worse hardware for higher prices too and hope nobody noticed or complains. The also tried doing this with the alleged 4080 12gb but outcry was already so bad before launch they basically just renamed it 4070ti.

I dont think this really comes out of nowhere. The 2060 vs 1060 was already almost no progress, if you considered how the former also got a price hike, 2060s were priced like 1070 IIRC. The 3000s GPUs were clearly better, but continued the high prices and had low VRAM compared to AMD offerings. Mind AMD had 12gigs in 6700 and 16 gigs in 6800. Meanwhole 3080 was 10 gigs. Funny thing is, Nvidia for some reason put 12 gigs in the 3060, which was actually pretty generous for that level of GPU. Tho that card still had lower performance and higher price than AMDs 6600 XT. Now this 4060 TI is an absolute joke, almost a regression with price increase, but lets not forget this BS started to happen after the 1000 series.

As it has been for whole rtx 4000 series except for rtx 4090. Every card in this generation except that is an upsell by NVIDIA.

I don't know, nvidia may have the 5060 use a 109 die with 96bit bus to save a bit of money for more profit. Then it's DLSS4.0 which makes the 5060 card the new 720p gaming gpu... (Yeah I hated writing that prediction..)

Steve Balmer is the other?

​@@MrGreghome Steve from Hardware Unboxed lol

Jayz just deleted the "review" made by his cameraman. I just managed to watch through the end and boy, it was embarrassing.

@@caparroz1923 I didn't catch it. What happened?

and back then it was considered highend(todays 4k), and still wouldnt set you back more than 399 to prob play at that res. RiP pricing 2023.

I remember pushing my CRT to >1440p resolutions... ....in 2008 and was playing at those resolutions consistently with a card not costing more than 400USD (I think at that time it was a 7800GTS 640MB)

4K won't be standard like 1080p now

@@hugevibez 1440p would barely even run on a 7800GTS.....

@@drunkhusband6257 pff please...2048x1536 easy with x1950pro

Based on what I have seen, the 4060ti is usually worse at 1440p than the 3070. I have a 3070 and I like it but if I could go back I would get the 6800 xt. The extra 4-8 gigs of VRAM is something I am already missing after having the card for only about a year. 8 gigs just is not that much at the moment and it is shrinking more and more.

even 1080 costed more, you meant 70ti

Nvidia will go the way of 3dfx if they keep this up, and I actually want them to go under.

@@ResidentWeevil2077 Have you seen their stock value? Doubled since January. They. Do. Not. Care.

@@MechAdv sooner or later they will

Xx50s have been pretty trash. Gtx 1050 was worse than a 960. 650 was equal to a 550 ti. And those were the good generations. 4060 ti 8gb should be a 4060 between $250-$300

oh, the humanity

Woudve had to raise the price even more imagine 😂

From the charts it doesn't seems so since the gulf between the 60ti and 70 is big enough to fit a "Super" or 2 in there, where the original 4070 was meant to be (according to Nvidia. So that means the 60ti was always meant to be *intentionally gimped* at this performance level...

Taking it from shooting themselves in the foot, to drooling down the barrel.

i know nvidia is insane but i honestly doubt that, i think they would have simple not launched a 4070 ti till much later

I'll buy one. I have a HP s5-1214 Slimline mini-ATX tower from 2018. It only has DirectX 11, a SATA II HDD, USB 2.0 and 802.11n with integrated graphics that can do DVI-d or HDMI at 1080p. It has a Sandy Bridge quad-core processor with 20-lanes of PCI 2.0. This card, along with a few other updates, makes it functional again. - I max'd the DDR3 ram to 16GB for $50. - Max'd the CPU to i7-2600K for $35. - Added a mini-PCIe card to get two SATA III ports for $15 (limited to 4 Gbps due to PCIe 2.0x1 being 0.5 GB/s). - Swapped the 750GB SATA II HDD for a 1TB SATA III SSD for $60 (plus $10 for a 3.5" to a dual 2.5" bay adaptor). - Added an Intel BE200 Wi-Fi 7 with Bluetooth 5.3 ($35) using a M.2 slot combo card that also has a NVMe M.2 Type M slot (over the same PCIe x1 lane) for future use (also limited to 4 Gbps due to PCI 2.0x1 only being 0.5 GB/s) for $29. - Added a powered USB 3.0 card with 2 Type A and one Type c ports (using with SATA power connector), and a USB 3.0 header for the front panel for $19. - Replaced the HP 240W Flex ATX power supply for a 500W one with modular cables for $55. - Added a PCIe x16 riser that provides two M.2 Type M NVMe slots with x4 each, and has a physical PCIe x16 top slot with x8 lanes for $23. - I've been unable to find a 12-1 pin TPM 2.0 module for the LPC connector on HP/foxconn motherboards from that era, but I'm hoping it will appear in the UEFI after I change the SSD to GPT format and convert the bios from Legacy to UEFI. If not, there are ways around the TPM 2.0 requirement for Windows 11. ;) This gives me a casual gaming, Windows 11 compliant, DirectX 12 enabled, Wi-Fi- 7, Bluetooth 5.3, 16GB, NVMe SSD (PCI 2.0x4) system with 500W power and dual Display Ports for 4K video or 1080p gaming... and any connector I need for casual use... for $261... plus the card. A toss-away computer, became a screaming web surfer for cheap... and this card allows Windows 11 installation along with 4K displays. The fact that it only uses 160W makes it ideal for mini-ATX builds like mine, and the extra 8 lanes it frees up gives me dual NVMe x4 SSDs each at 2GB/s (vs even the SATA III SSD running at 500Mb/s over the PCIx1 lane). Those lanes are like gold in a PCIe 2.0 motherboard. Not only do you need lanes for data/SSD, but the processors back then only had a few lanes available (my Sandy Bridge processor can handle 20 lanes... 16 in that GPU slot, and 1 lane in each PCI x1 slot and the mini-PCIe slot). While it's possible to split and use PCIe x16 slots in x8x8 or x8x4x4 set ups, you simply CAN'T combine four x1 lanes back up to a single x4 if you wanted to run NVMe at full speed. Without a x8 lane PCI GPU you'd either have to pick a x16 GPU or keep the integrated graphics and use that slot for say four x4 lanes of NVME. A real DirectX 12 GPU, with decent performance, dual monitors, and low power consumption is amazing IMO. If I was to forgo a NVMe x4 SSD and just stick with the SATA III SSD running through the mini-PCIe x1 lane (capped at 0.5Gbps) I "could" use a PCIe x16 GPU... but that also means a lot more cash for the RTX 4070, or an older gen GPU and more cash on a larger PSU, if you can find one in Flex ATX (600W is the largest I can find for this slim-tower design, and they've been out of stock for months, so a 500W will have to do).

Do it. Bought one for my GF and couldnt be happier with it after all the recent drivers. It's the best value out there right now when you account for RT performance, FPS, AI performance, editing performance.

its $200 on newegg right now

LOL Same thought crossed my mind. The Intel buyers don't look so crazy now, do they. Well said, good sir. Well said.

My 3060ti just died last week. And seeing how things are right now, i feel like i'll be fine with a A750 as replacement

@@__aceofspades True, if I had an intel chip, with my video editing them synergizing is supposed to be awesome.

Nvidia should have done a lot of things.

$300 is pushing already it lol

It's actually more like a 4060 performance wise. Should've had a 192 bit bus with 12gb of VRAM and it wouldve been an absolutely fine 4060