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Are romantic comedies toxic? This is Take Two, comparing two sides to a cultural question of our times, brought to you by @thetake . Take 1 will argue that rom-coms ruin us for love, by propagating unrealistic and harmful ideas about what romance should look like. Take 2 will posit that rom-coms help us love by setting a high bar for the magic we should expect from relationships.
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@trinaq
@trinaq 3 роки тому
Some rom coms can romanticise abusive behaviours, especially those aimed at a preteen or teen audience, who may think that having a controlling boyfriend is healthy. Looking at you, Kissing Booth! 🙄
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 роки тому
It depends on the situation it’s intended to be wholesome
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 роки тому
@Matti Watrin I thought the first one was nice I didn’t finish the sequel yet
@gabrielleduplessis7388
@gabrielleduplessis7388 3 роки тому
And twilight.
@Dauerglotzer123
@Dauerglotzer123 3 роки тому
*cough* After series *cough*
@daylightruby6633
@daylightruby6633 3 роки тому
@@madnessarcade7447 Why're you copy pasting the same comment everywhere? They aren't meant to be wholesome, the author, like most wattpad authors, have screwed up ideas about what's healthy and what's abusive behavior.
@inavee3439
@inavee3439 3 роки тому
🙋🏼‍♀️I have been personally victimized by Rom coms
@fatmapathan8695
@fatmapathan8695 3 роки тому
Agreed 😒
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 роки тому
Me too, sadly, reality can't live up to the cheesy fantasy! 😉
@sibongiseni5993
@sibongiseni5993 3 роки тому
Consistently!
@theinformedvegan6758
@theinformedvegan6758 3 роки тому
same, I internalized so many toxic narratives :/
@greyLeicester
@greyLeicester 3 роки тому
What are you? 5? People who cant distinguish fiction from reality and dont understand where limits stand when the movie stops rolling shouldn't really watch rom coms. It is your responsibility to understand reality, and not the movie to portray it 🤦🏻‍♀️ Anyway, rom coms do to chicks what porn movies do to guys, expectations wise.
@evergreeneyes9118
@evergreeneyes9118 3 роки тому
I feel like generic rom coms are junk food, nothing wrong with indulging every once in a while but you need a nice balanced media diet. Remember, the movies are formulaic. Once you see the pattern they all look the same.
@bhaktiagarwal5859
@bhaktiagarwal5859 3 роки тому
Good metaphor!
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 роки тому
They're no more formuliac than any other genre.
@gradymax9109
@gradymax9109 2 роки тому
Instablaster.
@rachaelottier-hart4001
@rachaelottier-hart4001 3 роки тому
I agree more with Take 1 with its more practical or realistic view but I understand that Take 2 and appreciate it's optimism.
@crazychill6263
@crazychill6263 3 роки тому
Take 3: Love is an illusion, I´m gonna get myself 4 cats and live my live all alone happily ever after!
@CassidyDrew13
@CassidyDrew13 3 роки тому
...And with my books😜📚
@deepikavijakumar9553
@deepikavijakumar9553 3 роки тому
And with a lot of coffee. .
@Niweera
@Niweera 3 роки тому
I hate cats but based. 🙏
@Natalia-tz1cz
@Natalia-tz1cz 3 роки тому
I...
@ruchanaik8252
@ruchanaik8252 3 роки тому
They are quite unrealistic and very toxic but also serve as guilty pleasures and movies where u don't have to put too much thought into.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 роки тому
It depends on the situation it’s intended to be wholesome
@jmonee
@jmonee 3 роки тому
Agree agree!!
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 роки тому
Toxic is such hyperbole.
@GigiNKD
@GigiNKD 3 роки тому
Blame Disney for the fairytale mindset as children. A Prince rescuing you.. A princess that’s flawless in beauty...and then living happily ever after... Reality is: it doesn’t happen like that. Relationships are work. On both parts.
@Tan-ps3dg
@Tan-ps3dg 3 роки тому
True. But some new Disney movies like Moana are changing this.
@knoraforlack8853
@knoraforlack8853 3 роки тому
Idk man, the older Disney movies sure [I mean before 1980], but in a lot of Disney movies I remember the princess rescues herself, or gets herself out of certain situations. At times its a cooperative relationship that relies on both parties (Tangled), or maybe the princess in a way saves the prince (princess and the frog). I mean sure the first Cinderella movie had that basis and no one even talks about sleeping beauty anymore. But the second movie she had to fend for herself, and let's not forget about the lesser knowns such as Anastasia and Ariel. In their movies they had to fight to save the people they loved. I dont think Disney is sexist at all, at least predating the 1980s.
@GigiNKD
@GigiNKD 3 роки тому
@@knoraforlack8853 I guess I grew up with the older Disney films... but there is a lot of psychology behind it all. Any type of tv or movie propaganda should be limited in my opinion. But everyone needs to just use their instincts and do what they think is right. Everything can be ok in moderation- in my opinion again- not speaking for everyone. :)
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 роки тому
Fairy tales pre-date Disney by thousands of years and they are symbolic not realistic. No-one who isn't a moron imagines life will resemble a fairy tale.
@Lucy-fw8hz
@Lucy-fw8hz 3 роки тому
Having watched my fair share of rom coms, literally all the ones shown in this video, I do agree that take 1 holds much truth. Rom com’s often do show toxic relationships( the kissing booth and After) and make the audience believe that is what they should look for in a significant other. Rom com’s all have the trope of the “good girl changing the bad boy to become better”. While it’s fun to see this play out, in a relationship you can’t go in hopping to change the person. I love watching rom com’s and I think I always will but most of the time, these are not the relationships we should strive to be in. Cheating, making bets, lying are all red flags in a relationships and not something that can be solved by a song or a kiss. Relationships take work and effort which rom com’s often fail to show. I would love for rom com’s to normalize more pure and loving relationships. Take Jane and Bingley in Pride and Prejudice. They are both such good and loving people and there relationship is based on a strong foundation. There are no red flags in this relationships unlike the majority of other romantic relationships in films and novels. I could probably write a thesis on this topic because I think it’s very interesting but lastly, I do agree that rom com’s push finding love with someone who is the complete opposite of you. While that may work at times, we shouldn’t see that! Rom com’s are meant for enjoyment but we should not look up to them for guidance in your relationships.
@sonall3422
@sonall3422 3 роки тому
What's your take on How I Met Your Mother?
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 роки тому
Jane and Bingley would be a very boring story. Two nice people fall in love and after a minor problem when his friends and relations lie to him they get to together and get married. The end.
@c-light7624
@c-light7624 3 роки тому
When Peter said Lara Jean can break his heart into a million pieces, he didn’t care, I heard a record scratch in my head, like whaaaa? Girl or boy, man or woman, it doesn’t matter...you have to make sure you care for yourself within a relationship and not accept any kind of behavior because you’re in _luv_ Disappointment is one thing. Abuse is another. So be careful with your heart and maintain self-respect.
@rosej7571
@rosej7571 3 роки тому
I agree with you when it comes to not accepting abuse and self respect but I think when Peter said that he was talking from a point of reality. I think people need to realize that people are going to break there heart sometimes and I think you can break someone’s heart without it being considered disrespectful and abusive. Earlier in the movie they were talking about not breaking each others heart and that’s unrealistic.
@c-light7624
@c-light7624 3 роки тому
@@rosej7571 oh I totally get that and I didn’t mean to say the character of LJ was abusive. Her actions were more along the lines of disappointing (although consciously wanting to cheat can be seen as worse than disappointing). But...I was talking about how some people tend to dismiss troubling signs within their relationships because they have love goggles on and will forgive unhealthy behaviors. What I heard was resignation to mistreatment as opposed to, “you’re imperfect and it’s ok”. I’m sensitive to that stuff so that’s where my mind went. We can all learn and grow and if his character recognizes that in LJ then he’s more mature and secure than most (including me). So I understand what you’re saying within the context of the movie. Thanks for pointing it out 😌
@rosej7571
@rosej7571 3 роки тому
@@c-light7624 Thank you for sharing your views I agree. I hope in this next movie we get to see some maturity. After reading what you said I can understand where your coming from. Thank you for responding back I love to hear other people’s views. We need more of that.
@c-light7624
@c-light7624 3 роки тому
@@rosej7571 very true! 🙏
@Jadoreeee
@Jadoreeee 3 роки тому
Well I think it was based on how in the first movie when peter said are u gonna break my heart covey
@tatyanailieva5043
@tatyanailieva5043 3 роки тому
Take 1 is saying traditional romcoms are toxic. Where take 2 is saying newer romecomes don't always reinforce the traditional toxic messages. I think I an agree with both and still choose take 1. Until the genre is redefined as a hole and nobody refers to movies like pretty woman as aspirational.
@sxwriter8569
@sxwriter8569 3 роки тому
You can use the Kissing Booth as an negative example of: 1) how fixation on another person leads to one needing to figure out who they are and develop their personal goals and motivation. 2) The consequences of failing to communicate within relationships and how miscommunication and judging simple misunderstandings can lead to a relationship ending disaster. 3) the importance of being in a relationship relying on balancing your life together and your life apart
@rosagudny3936
@rosagudny3936 3 роки тому
This “one size fits all” narrative about relationships is outdated.
@damemeplug5062
@damemeplug5062 3 роки тому
That's what she said
@jordanwashington1854
@jordanwashington1854 3 роки тому
Rom coms aren’t to be taken seriously if you have healthy models of what healthy romantic relationships should look like. The problem with them is that if a young, impressionable person sees them, they may try to replicate unhealthy behaviors that they see onscreen into their real lives/relationships.
@14mrno
@14mrno 3 роки тому
You guys should do a side by side with actually romantic movies and the ones that romanticize abuse: after, kissing booth, fifty shades, etc. This was great! I agree with both takes, because I think it has to do with the romantic gestures depicted on screen, sometimes it can be as great as Mr Darcy helping Lizzie's family from falling from grace and sometimes it's shown like getting over a fight with sex and never resolving the issue. Or breaking up and making up but never addressing the issues that broke then apart.
@Dashingdiva73
@Dashingdiva73 3 роки тому
I'm going to finish watching this but it will be through the tears of embarrassment at having been manipulated and victimized by romcoms. Okay I watched the whole thing. I think both sides have a point. With out getting into details, i was inspired by You've got mail and Sleepless in Seattle. I saw a boy thought he was the one, was too shy to talk to him, found out where he worked because he was featured in an article, wrote him a letter and let fate take it'd course. Couple of months later he called me at my job and came to see me. I just didn't tell him I was black. He was white. He was disappointed when he saw me. He probably thought I was the Asian girl i was with. The meeting was awkward, he did invite me out of politeness to see a concert at his job, but didn't give me a number or a date. I resigned my self to the moment and was content with the results. BUT my overly romantic friends convinced me to go and that's when things became embarrassing and heartbreaking. Rom coms never fully addressed racial differences, and the danger women will put themselves in, as well as the emotional upheaval we go through when things don't work out. Only recently have writers focused on these ideals of addressing racism in dating as well as mental health. This is why I appreciate the film's of Eric Rohmer. His depictions of romance and falling in love are grounded in the reality of the human experience. I would highly suggest watching his films Le Beau Mariage, Le Rayon Vert , Contes D'Autumne and my ultimate favorite Le pleine Lune. That's my take.
@itzbp9949
@itzbp9949 3 роки тому
Sorry you feel that way dabney
@valho9
@valho9 3 роки тому
The Big Sick...rom com with an interracial relationship. The writer and star is a POC. Good movie.
@daneroberts1996
@daneroberts1996 3 роки тому
With this one i genuinely don't know which take I prefer. I agree with every single argument put forward 😅. I guess the takeaway for me is that the genre is very diverse and quality can range from abysmal to fantastic
@sheilawidjaja7331
@sheilawidjaja7331 3 роки тому
I am completely a Take 1 person on this because, unfortunately, rom-coms can celebrate toxic and problematic tropes. E.g. stalking. *Le sigh.
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 роки тому
My, what a prig you are.
@nonbinarymess
@nonbinarymess 3 роки тому
kay i love this. Please do more. Also I wish I could agree with Take 2, But i really actually feel Take 1. Romcoms messed me up. I always felt like I would be incomplete without a relationship. A relationship that had to be a firework moment one. I actually have a really difficult time now actually looking for one because i’m scared it won’t meet expectations. Expectations that I keep trying to make healthy. I think Take 1 won when Take 2 used all the romcoms that subvert the romcom tropes for examples on how they are good. I mean, sure parodies or non-traditional ones like Her, Eternal Sunshine, or whichever else ones are amazing. But they’re also not really romcoms. They are subversions. The romcoms like While you were sleeping, Love actually, etc. Are super fun. But also pretty damaging. I dont think you should not watch them. But if you are impressionable maybe avoid them. Also as a filmmaker- i think if I ever make a romance centred film- it will nOt be a traditional romcom.
@Elfos64
@Elfos64 3 роки тому
Love isn't about sacrifice or grand gestures, it's ultimately an extension of oneself. They are a part of you, you are a part of them. Love, at its core, means "adds to one's life in a significant way". Its objective isn't to make you happy, it's to mutually realize your "true selves". It is absolute trust, being vulnerable with each other knowing that vulnerability won't be betrayed, but rather addressed with care- like Kintsugi.
@bexyPTX
@bexyPTX 3 роки тому
The thing about rom-coms is that some are really harmful and others can be helpful by subverting expectations in some way. I personally tend to like them more than not because I'm a sucker for love stories and they give me some amount of hope I'll find my person someday.
@gabrielleduplessis7388
@gabrielleduplessis7388 3 роки тому
Both. Depends on the film. There are nice couples to look up to. With trendy books like twilight, they copy harmful tropes and love interests.
@purilaw.
@purilaw. 3 роки тому
I love romcoms, especially when it doesn’t end with the two love interest get together, like My Best Friend Wedding, The Break-Up, It’s Complicated, How to Be Single, Begin Again, Once. It just comforts me and somehow it helped me increase my self love 😊
@Trillary_Banks
@Trillary_Banks 3 роки тому
Ruin. Definitely ruin. Which is why Rom-Coms are my least favorite.
@saraluciaforerogarcia
@saraluciaforerogarcia 3 роки тому
I think both have a point, yes there are many, like way too much toxic behaviour, but also in others love and respect, and we as kids and adults need to learn the differences between real life and fantasy and recognise the good and bad in this. And learn to take the good and stay away from the bad
@AmethystKaianna
@AmethystKaianna 3 роки тому
I'm neither points of view. I love rom coms as sometimes I just need a story about love that's simple and happy and celebrates love. However I do think that rom coms need to get with the times and to improve and show healthier relationships and also diverse relationships! My biggest gripe was I never saw Black women being the romantic lead. That has since changed but even so there aren't many black rom coms. There are so many different kind of love stories and couples, for the genre not to die out they need to include those different stories. Perhaps I lean more towards take two but I can see take one's point and think rom coms do need to improve
@vicentelucianosilvachvez2182
@vicentelucianosilvachvez2182 3 роки тому
I am so grateful you've given such a great channel as The Take a space like this. Honestly great
@anjaneekhosla3847
@anjaneekhosla3847 3 роки тому
I don't know anything about the Significant Other sort of love but I do know that I LOVE the take. Another amazing video, damn
@mbanerjee5889
@mbanerjee5889 3 роки тому
Depends on your definition of a rom-com. Movies like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind or Her are not really "romantic" movies and I would never consider them as rom-coms. What about Disney fairy-tales or comedy movies? And teen rom-coms should not fall under the same category as movies like The Big Sick or Palm Springs.
@mikeeps1788
@mikeeps1788 3 роки тому
Ugh and romance novels REALLY mess up the expectations. I had a fight with the gf after arguing a while she apologized and said something along the lines of “ my expectations are too high cause of romance novels” so weird honestly
@choedzin
@choedzin 3 роки тому
Are there really people who see rom-coms as behavioral guides, rather than simple entertainment? A sorry state, to be sure.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 роки тому
I think it depends on the situation I like the intended wholesome message and it can work depending on the situation and if they like you back
@hamdialihassan1048
@hamdialihassan1048 3 роки тому
Depends on the movie. The Proposal, Clueless and to all the boys for example are pretty harmless. The kissing booth, pretty woman and and twilight have some very toxic elements.
@francescakyanda9182
@francescakyanda9182 3 роки тому
Seriously awesome video!
@lolablake9196
@lolablake9196 3 роки тому
I do agree with take 1 as much as I love rom come there definitely are extremely unrealistic and do put grandiose ideas in our heads.
@tinavasilache3504
@tinavasilache3504 3 роки тому
Loved this!! Can’t wait to see more!!
@yoursdearestvalencia2399
@yoursdearestvalencia2399 3 роки тому
Nah, Netflix rom-com lately been showing toxic behavior especailly from the main male love interest. For an example The Kissing Booth, like in real life the writers KNOW that they would NEVER wanted to date a man like Noah, who shows a lot of signs of abusive behavior even before him and Ella started to date. So why create a narative that tell young girls that when a boy yell at you its just mean he love you. I miss the days that movies make sense its a story about two people who find out that they share a common experience and start to fall in love because of that.
@gauravbundel
@gauravbundel 3 роки тому
Strangely, only Take 1 has some science backing it up..
@CassidyDrew13
@CassidyDrew13 3 роки тому
I’m on side one, but that doesn’t mean I don’t love rom coms! I just don’t take them seriously or as real advice😁
@blissm3dia482
@blissm3dia482 3 роки тому
Some romantic comedies (Kissing Booth, Sierra Burgers) can have pretty toxic messages but still remain enjoyable for most. Honestly, I prefer the works of Woody Allen as despite them not necessarily being optimistic, they can help show the magic of love at its best and the realism of relationships
@lelu810
@lelu810 3 роки тому
Most of them are toxic and show no substance in a person. It's either broken guy being fixed by a girl or damsel in distress being rescued by sometimes overtly rich guy. I'm just fed up up with these stories, nothing that you can ever relate to.
@kamryng509
@kamryng509 3 роки тому
I think most are okay. I don’t watch many though, so I can’t say for sure. I usually watch the depressing “the fault in our stars rip off” movies. But I’ve seen the “To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before” movies and “Never Been Kissed” and I think they’re fine. But like “After” romanticizes cheating and abusive relationships, and “The Kissing Booth” has an issue with lack of communication in a relationship that leads to disaster.
@jadahunt827
@jadahunt827 3 роки тому
I agree with both.
@cindypabon8370
@cindypabon8370 3 роки тому
Okay, just one thing... If a movie/series didn't focus on romance (finding a partner, dealing with a breakup, etc), how on earth would it be a rom-com???? 😅😂
@famco_inc737
@famco_inc737 3 роки тому
Both are true for me!
@evelyn8377
@evelyn8377 3 роки тому
Love The Take!
@Niweera
@Niweera 3 роки тому
I remember my literature teacher told us, the best things about love are the pursuit and the abandonment. 🙏
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 роки тому
I agree with take two but I can see the perspective of take one It’s all situational
@aliciaaghata
@aliciaaghata 3 роки тому
I love Lara Jean and Peter
@CanaAlyce
@CanaAlyce 3 роки тому
Im with both takes i think their are romcoms that are toxic and display unhealthy relationships and promote the patirachy. But then there are romcom like 500 days of summer that subvert the troupe. I think movies like the kissing booth are romcoms that don't help. Tv shows like new girl have brought a fresher take cause we actually see how the realtionship develops and grows. Even shows like parks and rec show how you can have a healthy relationship.
@lilil9752
@lilil9752 3 роки тому
The truth for me: it ruins love for a lot of people for bringing up their expectations but for me i see them as a cautionary tale, i´ve never been in a relationship (and i´m quite old) so seeing them make me take notes on how NOT to treath a guy (in a lot of romcoms the female lead needs to blame the ML for everything ,even if she cheats on him) and how not to let a guy treath me (like being entitled or manipulative and that i won't change a man) .There are some i do like though but that movies are NOT to take as a recipe for how real love should be. Edit: not juging your tastes in movies but...Tall girl as a good example?
@TheDunkster157
@TheDunkster157 3 роки тому
Honestly rom coms have ruined love ,when people watch it they immediately think that "oh hey that is what love is" and get angry and toxic when it's not portrayed and the same in real life .
@chinyere9114
@chinyere9114 3 роки тому
I stopped watching them unrealistic and toxic! There’s some good ones out there but mostly are very toxic and super cringey. Kissing Booth is SO TOXIC!!
@Jill-ih9dq
@Jill-ih9dq 3 роки тому
I suppose I lean more towards take two, but I don’t disagree with anything brought up in take one. I myself developed some toxic ideas about love and relationships when I was young that caused me a lot of pain, but ultimately, I don’t blame romcoms as much as the people who raised me for not giving me healthy models of how to find love/how to act in relationships. Because I do think that if taught correctly, young people will be able to experience media more critically and not hold it up as an example to emulate. With that being said, I do find a LOT of value in romance in storytelling as an adult viewer, even though irl I am grey ace, have little interest in dating, low expectations of romance, and think I’d be perfectly happy never getting married. Especially in romantic dramas (which aren’t really the same as romcoms but were included here so I will address them) such as Pride and Prejudice, Beauty and the Beast, etc., I find a lot of comfort from the message that it’s okay to listen to your intuition and reject relationships that don’t feel right, because finding someone you’re truly compatible with is possible. This is a positive message for me, as someone who used to not realize I wasn’t even attracted to people I was dating-I just didn’t trust my intuition and didn’t feel entitled to rejecting advances.
@_anuragh_
@_anuragh_ 3 роки тому
They just keep reminding me of how single I am but still I keep binging them again and again and again...😭😭
@toomuchinformation
@toomuchinformation 3 роки тому
Filmic self harm.
@LinhHueTran
@LinhHueTran 3 роки тому
I agree with. Part one.
@amandamaia8287
@amandamaia8287 3 роки тому
I’m with Take 1. If Rom-Coms wasn’t so damaging, then we wouldn’t have so many research and medias commenting about its negative effects on people. Although I agree with Take 2 at some points, we need more realistic rom-coms to be made, especially for the people who takes the messages of romantic movies too literally.
@lincolnbeckett8791
@lincolnbeckett8791 3 роки тому
Both sides have great points, but overall I think Take 1 has the stronger adjustment.
@lynnie6633
@lynnie6633 3 роки тому
Rom-Coms are simply unrealistic. Especially for young people. They try to make a relationship perfect just like in the movies, expecting the fairy tale will happen for them as well. Real life is not perfect, and many times one or both people put their very best foot forward, hiding their issues, fears or problems. But that doesn't usually last, and their true nature comes out eventually. If it works out like in the movies, you are very lucky.
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 роки тому
And what genre film is realistic?
@andral5220
@andral5220 3 роки тому
great video
@rchume6015
@rchume6015 3 роки тому
I know ready right 😆😆
@jmonee
@jmonee 3 роки тому
whenever a picture perfect relationship is in a movie people get upset that it sets girls standards too high but once a bad relationship is in a movie people get upset that it romanticizes toxicity 🤦🏾‍♀️
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 роки тому
It depends on the situation it’s intended to be wholesome
@balapranav7096
@balapranav7096 3 роки тому
Finding the one, never occurs always... It's always better to wait long rather than ending up with the wrong one... To be frank, half the rom coms get mny things wrong when it comes down to selecting the love of your life... They are not supposed to be too toxic, playboyish, dripping with love and all that.. our other half is also a human... You can't possibly say he / she might know what goes on inside you, unlike what they show in the movies like they identify everything even before u say. Even I set up the bar for my love life based on novel protagonists😆
@bitcsqlaetitia7052
@bitcsqlaetitia7052 3 роки тому
Wait where do I know this: I like you the way just you are dude from? I know him from somewhere
@shyanne066670
@shyanne066670 3 роки тому
I love rom coms🥰🤗🤗
@JYang0602
@JYang0602 3 роки тому
Rom-Coms fantasize Love. We set our standards so high for what we see on-screen that we forget to just be ourselves. Love is supposed to be hard, not easy like we see on screen. These movies and shows draw inspiration from what writers see but not what is taken from perspectives beyond. Love is hard, love is supposed to be worth fighting for and not easy in the snap of a finger like what is shown in media. Real, Raw, and Unconditional. People nowadays set standards so high to the point where love is hard to get and keep. I got nothing against cliches and movie BS we can expect and experience in real life but Movies/TV ruin our expectations and shit.
@lzen2177
@lzen2177 3 роки тому
Take 1. Relationships are about compromise, good communication and hard work. Roms Coms rarely show either.
@nestorperena8629
@nestorperena8629 3 роки тому
DON'T LIVE LIKE YOU ARE IN A MOVIE (ANY GENRE) AND DON'T LIVE LIKE YOU ARE IN A TV COMMERCIAL. THE LATTER IS THE MOST TOXIC OF ALL
@robchuk4136
@robchuk4136 3 роки тому
Romantic Comedy is not my genre, so I'm coming into this debate completely neutral. As an impartial judge, this was a toughie. Take 1 appeals to the natural cynic in me. But Take 2 makes a great case for the importance of optimism. Take 1 sited doctor studies and real-world effects. That's big. But Take 2 stays focused on the only things a film can control: character agency, mistakes, learning, and growth... Hmm.. Take 1 reinforces why I'm not into rom-coms (they are super problematic), but Take 2 reminds me why I love cinema, even in genres I don't like (the power of the feels). Ultimately, I'd say one Take is holding romantic comedies responsible for people's failed love lives, while the other Take is saying people are responsible for themselves. It is the opinion of this court that movies not be blamed for couples' problems, so I think *Take 2 wins* with just enough of a counter argument that reminds me I should stop doing that too. Now if you'll excuse me, I have gotta go make a phone call-
@SelfDescribed
@SelfDescribed 3 роки тому
Toxic. That's not real life. It sets a precedent for relationships that is rarely, if ever, attainable. The same could be said about romantic hallmark/christmas movies.
@parhampanah
@parhampanah 3 роки тому
On a side note, can yall recommended some good rom coms for me to watch lol
@1MegArbo
@1MegArbo 3 роки тому
Except that by your own admission, Take, "500 Days of Summer" has been totally misunderstood.
@k-popchipmunk2992
@k-popchipmunk2992 3 роки тому
My face when I saw Jamie and Sierra kiss:😱 My face when I see Peter and Lara Jean kiss: 😍
@lenadahling
@lenadahling 3 роки тому
Clearly it's both. Love and romance should be fun, easy, and passionate, and who doesn't want to marry their best friend, instead of settling for mediocrity with a pot-belly? The problem is just how fanciful they are, mostly silly, and unattainable, though aspirational. There's nothing sadder than the actors who portray them's real lives though; whether divorced and alone, multiple marriages, potential abuse, indeed settling for less than their equal, or just perpetually single. If people that hot who are portraying these dream characters can't even find a match, what hope do the rest of us have! But i don't think it's an indictment, it just goes to show how difficult it is to find compatibility. And even when it's there, there are still challenges.
@FineandDandy104
@FineandDandy104 3 роки тому
My stance is that rom-coms that center "people of color" have emerged before 2020. Namely, Black ones. "Love Jones" is one. "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" is another. "Boomerang" too. Also "Two Can Play That Game" and "Deliver Us From Eva." This are a small sample. But that video made it seem as if rom-coms were all 100% white, 100% of the time outside of "Always Be My Maybe" and "The Lovebirds." Or "To All the Boys I've Loved Before."
@k-popchipmunk2992
@k-popchipmunk2992 3 роки тому
It depends on the movie, like the TATB movies are amazing, but the kissing booth glorifies a toxic relationship. Justice for Marco!✊
@candycane1744
@candycane1744 3 роки тому
So many rom coms have the cliche where the woman dumps her bf of who's she's known for a while over a hotter dude who's career prospects...aren't so great
@SDBanks80
@SDBanks80 3 роки тому
They can be both.
@rinc.979
@rinc.979 3 роки тому
😂 well it’s both
@cjisfunny4992
@cjisfunny4992 Рік тому
Why do some rom coms make the guy give up there dreams,jobs,or education to be successful
@jyothishthomas11
@jyothishthomas11 3 роки тому
Hehe rom com vanangale ookk😊👍
@jmonee
@jmonee 3 роки тому
honestly i feel like if it’s a movie it’s just not that deep lol
@siaracastic2515
@siaracastic2515 3 роки тому
Take 1 all my money
@RobertaTMS_
@RobertaTMS_ 3 роки тому
It's OK to watch rom-coms, but don't take this too seriously. It's just a movie, even if a person is being optimistic, it'll never get the real thing. Falling for an illusion is dangerous.
@ashlynvasilas6456
@ashlynvasilas6456 3 роки тому
Neither they just make u feel single
@jeimagu
@jeimagu 2 роки тому
Make yourself a favor and avoid rom coms, I wish I could unseen the ones I watched, they have only gave me problems in every relationship
@Boombadaboom444
@Boombadaboom444 3 роки тому
They are as toxic as you make them out to be. People need to start acting like adults and not take everything for face value and being offended.
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 3 роки тому
Wouldn't say there toxic they lie to us. Love is not like the movies
@MicaEditour
@MicaEditour 3 роки тому
Take 1 won the argument tbh
@feniak.9828
@feniak.9828 3 роки тому
❤️❤️❤️
@brisiiil8214
@brisiiil8214 3 роки тому
Anyways go watch Julie and the Phantoms on 29th
@catsrule1343
@catsrule1343 3 роки тому
Annie Hall is the best rom com and I will fight anyone who disagrees
@whitneyw2090
@whitneyw2090 3 роки тому
don jon had it right about rom coms and porn
@lilLaReggie
@lilLaReggie 3 роки тому
There's nothing wrong with romcoms there's something wrong with the people that watch it and perceive it as reality
@danielaj3451
@danielaj3451 3 роки тому
I agree with Take 1 but Rom/Com is just toxic and enternaining
@sibongiseni5993
@sibongiseni5993 3 роки тому
Elle should really be single.
@malcolmmutambanengwe3453
@malcolmmutambanengwe3453 3 роки тому
RomComs are the real HORROR movies :(
@amona2917
@amona2917 3 роки тому
W kira si cewe lyn lapid 😐
@marvsland
@marvsland 3 роки тому
toxic. all fantasy.
@fmrbenriam3776
@fmrbenriam3776 3 роки тому
uwu
@avivapeltin
@avivapeltin 3 роки тому
**watches first two minutes** I feel victimized by this video! ROMCOMS FOREVER! I'll keep watching . . .
@avivapeltin
@avivapeltin 3 роки тому
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