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LaTVeria seriously, i'm not a comic nerd I have like 5 Spider-Man comics. It's just google

what

Laxative

I know but it doesn't even sound real it sounds like where a Disney villain would live

@Depp the government shat my pants

@@MisterOverpowered relatable

reed's mom is a witch?

Mothers are horrible horrible people

I made this 777 likes so mothers can also be gambling addicts.

It's because Doctor Doom was very proud of himself and thought of any scar as a blemish on him? (But in Secret Wars, Doom's face was horribly scarred) (Maybe the hot mask caused the rest of the scars?)

I think it did a little more than melt his nose, it burned his face. It’s what happens when you put a still hit Metal Mask on your face. Honestly it’s a miracle all it did was burn his face and destroy his nose. His skin could have been fused to the mask.

That was a retcon of the original accident that was only canon for a few years. It has since reverted to the original "the accident ruined his face". They even added that Grimm caused the accident by intentionally sabotaging the machine.

Dr.Doom has no need for a nose only FOOLS need this so called """oxygen"""

The Secret Wars thing was just the reflection on how he sees himself. He was God Doom at the time. He could fix his face if he desired so. I'm pretty sure he could do it even without godly powers.

So wait, what happens to Future Viktor as a leader in the comics? Does he sit in the back and show up right after Present Viktor goes back in time?

@@zepperman2679 it's more every encounter with Victor is future Victor while present Victor is off becoming the Victor everyone knows. Once he built latveria he was It's only ruler, he even rules it via Astral projection when he gets sent to hell. A couple of people have been portrayed as becoming new rulers but they always turn out to be working for Victor so in all reality he has never relinquished power.

Man.l.I used to think the fantastic 4 and dr doom we’re stupid.l.but this is Tight! Lol

@@yaboysix There’s a reason Fantastic Four is marketed as The World's Greatest Comic Magazine

@@gaxton4513 it used to be anyway, idk if today's stories are as good.

He did eventually become a God... And felt it was beneath him.

He's a villain. Central planners are the greatest evil the world has ever known.

I'm sure better than a few of current presidents ^^

@@joshfritz5345 go up to a police officer and tell them “hey, I want to rule the world!” I’m fairly certain you won’t be arrested

@@noriyakigumble3011 Not sure how this connects to anything

That comic is amazing The dynamic between Strange and Doom is something else

Honestly the lengths Doom goes to to accomplish his goals (whether they may be just or simply petty) is pretty impressive and unfathomable at the same time. Definitely one of my top 5 favourite comic book villains.

And all Mephisto just needed two Apples

What series this was?

@@Artemas_16 Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment

And irl. More people need therapy. Therapy for all!!!

white people believe anything can be fixed with therapy fr

If everybody in marvel always acted rational and calm and in there own self interest there would be no problems same for the real world.

I figured Bruce dressing up like a bat and punching crime & the mentally ill *was* his therapy.

Therepy is completely retarded, Psychology is bad.

What comic should I read for this?

I would love to see this arc explained in detail in a series.

@@BW-CZ Secret Wars

@@Nzosaba_Matenge the 2015 one

basically he has autism

That was fun to know, thank you :P

Now I'm imagining Doctor Doom just hanging nearby Reed, waiting for his moment to show him up.

And people say Sakura Haruno is useless

Actually, fun fact, in the most recent X-Men/Fantastic 4 crossover limited series, a ton of the stuff you just mentioned got brought up. Kate Pryde and her Marauders, Franklin Richards, Doom, and a few other key X-Men and the fantastic four were main players, and it was an awesome read

@@sketchydude8431 nah the phrase "reed richards cant do it" summons victor from the realm of idk doctor doom

Haha what a boss move

@@AW-sx8hm the ex-girlfriend in question died when Doom took her skin

@@Nzosaba_Matenge well that's a fucked up move. Mr Doom is all over the place.

@@Nzosaba_Matenge It was just a little trolling

Valeria is the only person in the multiverse Victor Von Doom will put his diabolical plans aside for, just so he can attend her tea party.

Holy shit

had to look this up - valeria richards for anyone curious - and her little picture on her wiki is so funny who gave this baby sunglasses

And he named it Valeria, after his first love. If I wanted to mess with Richards I would have named it Shitfuck so props to Doom for taking the classy route

@@DavidLopez-en6el so it seems that doom is a petty and malicious person yet is also an honorable man?

@@DavidLopez-en6el that comment fits very well with this channel for the Ash ketchum and Oak video.

That comic is great, i love it how Namor just laughed when that happened. Now, back to the topic. Yeah this comic really showed how close Doom was of not being a villain anymore and Jonny ruined it

Fucking Johnny, guys can you think of a name for a superhero trio?

@@whoiskizuki. The Transmundane Three

@@whoiskizuki. You know if we act fast. I think the copyright for the tremendous three is still avaliable.

After hearing this I have lost a lot of respect for the human torch.

It 'twere a Doombot!

That's what happens when you've been enemies with someone for long enough.

@@GMKriv They called each other enemies, but ended up acting like rivals to each other

Weren't they college room mates or something?

@@mauricioalvarezpino1818 Yes they were literally best friends in college and colleagues

that also happened in the comics over the years

The first one also ended with a simple talk with Reed tho

@@someghostinthewild More like Molecule Man was the middle man in this scenario.

Tim Story/World's Greatest Doom: The accidents that caused the F4 to get their powers and Doom's scars were made into the same incident and both their faults. Reed however took responsibility for his actions while Doom didn't.

@Ayaka Secret Wars 2015 by Jonathan Hickman

@Ayaka Secret Wars, the 2015 version.

Well you're correct that his ruling is the only way for humanity to survive, but that's because he just wants to massacre/enslave all the mutants. We know from so many different accounts at this point that left uninhibited, Krakoa is gonna be one of the most powerful forces in the universe. Technically, one of the quiet council members has made it so he literally cannot lose.

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 So, what's the problem then? I'd much rather choose humanity over mutantkind. Humans create civilization, wonders of the world, tame the nature, all with just technology. Mutants have literal superpowers, and just use them on fighting one another and having high school drama. Not like you even need mutants to defend the Earth, since there's plenty of human superheroes that get the job done.

@@DifferentRussian Man. You're racist. Mutants are people too.

@@rebertassis1036 well, they're consistently shitty people then.

@@DifferentRussian Wait sorry I just saw this but this is absolutely hilarious you're literally using the same talking points as like every X-Men villain ever. And half aren't even true. If you wanna know why all your points are wrong in universe, read the entire comment. But the TLDR explains pretty briefly why advocating for killing an entire species might not be the best thing First let's address the claim that mutants just use their powers to fight each other and have high school drama. This has been completely debunked by the entire Krakoan age, but more specifically, a single, mid length comic book that released a month ago, titled "Immortal X-Men #10." Xavier specifically calls out people who seem to think that the X-Men fighting other mutants is the system working in an unintended fashion. He explains that the X-Men are pretty much exclusively there because there occasionally are mutant threats that, if left unchecked, would destroy the world. However, despite this fact, you seem to be disregarding the 16 million mutants that previously lived happily in a country of their own with pretty much no civil unrest, and the 200 thousand that currently live on a country of their own after the other 15.5 million were massacred by mutants. Mutants create civilizations. Mutants create technology more advanced than all but the smartest humans could even compare to. Mutants created the technology to bring anyone back from the dead, and have started a functioning society based around that. Mutants tamed the one force of nature humans thought immutable. Mutants are the future. For the claim that human superheroes are enough to get the job done: We've seen that pretty much any threat that the X-Men lose to ends up defeating the entire combined mass of all the earth's enhanced. The Sentinels in DOFP start with the mutants and eventually kill everyone. The only reason the children of the vault haven't killed every human and mutant ever with not a single enhanced individual that could even come close to comparing with them is because the mutants managed to trick them and keep them contained. The Phalanx consumed humanity and all of their knowledge, thousands of years in the future. This fate was only prevented by a mutant being sent back to stop it, because there was nobody left. The Phalanx still retained the knowledge of humanity because they literally store data in a black hole, they are such powerful beings that they create entire species simply to gather more data for them, and then kill those species' off without a second thought. And yet mutants, in a future where they're allowed to live on, defeat them. Save the universe from AI that only wants knowledge, by consuming everything there ever was. Human level threats may destroy countries and conquer planets. But it's only once you get to Mutant level threats that you see all of humanity eradicated. Entire universes devoured, strip mined for information. And only the X-Men, only the mutants stand in the way TL;DR: None of what I said above really matters when the key point is that you just said "Who cares" to literal genocide of an entire species of sentient beings. I spent so long writing this because your comment hits a bit too close to home considering what mutants have always been an allegory for. Dogwhistles about how only the in group can create, can do good, and how the out group is just petty, destructive, pointless, while spewing false information, either ignorantly or intentionally.

Aww, that's so beautiful and sad😢

Being friends with people is hard, because I outright refuse to be friends with ugly-looking people, or anyone who isn't beautiful-looking. There is no value in anyone like that.

@@jamesg6660 That's like some Pokemon villain tier shit. This is hillarious. Keep it up. Are you going to exterminate all of the ugliness out of the world to create a utopia for only perfect specimens of humanity?

@@jamesg6660 You shouldn’t shame yourself like that, of course you have value.

Yeah, I was expecting some joke twist at the end, but no...today, friendship prevailed!

@@uberculex Not answering if you're just engaging in the idea to laugh at it.

I remember a comic where he does win and rules the world, he actually does make the world a better place, just like he did for Latveria.

Latveria is canonically a member state of the UN, and as such Doom has gone to New York for entirely legitimate purposes. They made a pretty great Spider-Man comic out of it.

"get em!" "FOREIGN LEADER! FOREIGN LEADER! DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!" [quick googling] "well fuck. Alright, don't touch him, we'll be royally fucked" "haha royal" "shut up. dickhead von doom"

@@thecactusman17 Are you talking about the comic where Spider-man throws Cap's shield and it accidently breaks into Latverian embassy?

It's just been revoked.

Basically, he has pretty noble goals (other than the "I GOTTA SHOW IM BETTER THAN RICHARDS!") And he's willing to do anything to accomplish them. He's one of the most efficient and cool marvel characters ever imo

> "Doom isn't even all that evil. [..] the evil lies more in his actions than his motivation." That's still evil though. If you look at the definitions of "evil" and ignore the ones about the supernatural, you have these: - "a manifestation of profound immorality and wickedness, especially in people's actions" - "something which is harmful or undesirable" Motivation doesn't really matter here. His goals can be of perfect harmony, but it is his actions and the incredible harm he causes people that make him evil.

".... and you want to fit another hundred Batarangs© in one pouch?"

Very nice, R&D is fun

@@TheGreyKami wrong universe

A workplace comedy-style show in like Shield R&D or something could actually be pretty good, even as a limited series

@@mrslipnslide251 They were actually doing to do something like that for Damage Control in the MCU.

yeah... nothing bad at all...

A lot of innocent people would dislike this comment.........if they were still ALIVE

@@neckray But they aren't so no one's complaining 😌

@@neckray if they were still among us

no one got hurt in the end atleast people we care about didn't , so its a win

Except for the music at the end

When did i cry?

I mean there was that time Nick Fury took all the cool avengers there in the mid 2000’s and destroyed the capital city and probably unintentionally killed hundreds at least while Doom was “dead” but Fury wiped everyone’s minds after so I guess it’s okay as long as Doom’s in charge lol

Not to mention the Wakandan Panther God supports him. Unless the gods name is Bast. IDK God names

@@mephilesthedarks Bast is Black Panther’s god. You were on the money.

@@Lancersilva so does that doctor doom go back to being a good guy in that future?

@@Aceshot-uu7yx No because "status quo is king" always puts him back to being a villain at some point.

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90% sure that even if it's in favour of Richard, that's doom playing to his ego and making him think he's the better chess player, with Doom actually planning to utterly trounce him when the time is right.

I mean canonically, doom is slightly smarter than richards tho

So their relationship is like the one between Professor X and Magneto?

@@garoufan4101 Only difference Is that not only Doom hates Richards with a passion but, given the chance, Doom would kill Richards.

@@mqfii8992 Alright,I understand

Nice!

oof

Lmao! What did it actually mean?

bruh gangwar as a name sounds badass lmao

thats nothing bro, i met a dude named 'gangbang' in gambela

Problem is, the pervasive amount of quacks and profiteers in that "profession" make it an unviable solution

reminder: *always* do background checks on your therapists

You just have to keep trying until you find someone who's willing to help you and draw the proper boundaries. They're willing to get close but not be your friend.

Wß

Yes, the need for continuing easy villains has caused comics to demonize mental health issues in an unhealthy degree.

General rule of thumb when reading Victor Hugo: Almost all good parents are unavailable, dead, cannot save you from the stupid consequences of your actions, or will die too soon. All bad parents are immediately available and will frick you up.

@@RandomPerson13 You can break from the cycle but it's difficult. That or just don't have kids so they won't be abused unknowingly by you

dude i see you everywhere

@@sylviethetg7598 my mother who took care of me and my father broke the cycle unfortunately they didn't know at the time that they were using a bad parenting curriculum but they aren't bad in fact I love them but I had some dark years in my life and I still feel the effects to this day

An average Eastern European family

There was a graphic novel called 'Emperor Doom' where Doom actually did conquer the world, using the Purple Man's mind control power. Wonder Man and later Captain America, Hawkeye, Iron My, Wasp and Sub-Mariner stopped his plan, but the interesting thing was Doom had LET them do it. By that time, he had found that using the Purple Man's power to mind control everyone into submission had become a hollow victory and basically was ruling a bunch of puppets. He decided to conquer the world using his own efforts instead of using trickery. I don't think he used any mind control schemes after that.

Agreed 😂😂✨

I was gonna say the same thing. As a major dr doom fan I particularly enjoyed this

@@twilighthunter6583 yeah, I immediately thought of it as soon as I saw the whole “relationship with your parents” part. Glad to see that I wasn’t the only one.

The baron was hunting them because his father couldn't save the barons wife from disease

It is nice, but you gotta remember it's half out of spiting Reed, since Sue could have died in childbirth and she turned to him to save her.

and even when he succeeds conquering the world, he actually makes things better for everyone, from ending wars, to advancing technology to a point thought impossible by conventional means, i read this from a comic (that i don't remember the name of) about him doing so.

@@MrG-zn6gh Yeah it was something about how the Panther god that only talks to Black Panther (and Doom because he is worthy) said that the only future that has humans alive and prospering is the future that Doom becomes an immortal dictator. Very funny. Btw this has no source, I just remember this being in a video about him that I watched like 3 years ago.

@@kordell8199 So... Victor von Doom is basically The Emperor from Warhammer 40k?

@@davisdf3064 You mean the God Emperor of Mankind you filthy heretic.

@@davisdf3064 Yes, But i think doom is actully right, And the emperor is just insane

Seriously, most heroes are just a Tiny bit too punch happy to actually do much good in the long run. Like, yes, there are villains that just straight up can't be helped at this point, but like, that's 20% of the pot, the other 80 could be helped if you just sat down, talked with them like a normal human being, and put more money into making Arkham asylum actually fucking competent, Bruce!

Yeah there is literally zero reason anyone ever has to die in a war. The problem is, leaders can't resolve their problems without violence, because they're prideful neanderthals

@@borderlinecrazy6444 But I don't want to talk it out! I want to turn people into dinosaurs!

And then there’s the CW’s Flash

Most comic book characters are weirdly childish. It's not too noticeable until an actually mature character rolls around in a comic and you notice how much of a kindergarten it all is

this and especially the injection of "ain't that the truth" and an interrupted laugh

the whole thing with Future Foundation. too bad they went and did a full 30-years reset a few months ago. way to fuck up the whole decade of work.

He just dies what he does.

He killed the only woman that ever loved him for a new armor made out of her flayed skin though...

@@Headpool98 yikes

@@Headpool98 Well you gotta do what you gotta do for cool gear

Not sure what a therapist could do about the haunting ghost mom.

That’s where the exorcist comes in

The Sopranos is a show about a guy who turns more and more villainous, partly due to professional therapy. It's pretty interesting

And Reed was trying to warn him the experiment wouldn't work but he did it anyway. So it really isn't Reed's fault

It's weirdly sweet to think Victor would go to the humungous trouble and frankly insanity of creating a freakin portal to HELL itself...just to see his mother again. (I'm guessing that wasn't his only reason for doing so though?)

@@navilluscire2567 IIRC the same machine was also supposed to be the start of a way to rescue his mother's soul from Hell as well, but it was still in the early stages before either a miscalculation and/or sabotage by a devil (maybe Mephisto himself) caused it to literally blow up in Victor's face as Reed tried to warn him. And thus began Doom's (true) descent into villainy. Doom eventually focuses on the same thing when he starts really learning magic, getting into some magical contract with a devil (again, maybe Mephisto himself) that allows him to once a year astrally fight for his mother's soul to free her from Hell at some cost that I currently forget. It's implied that Doom *did* eventually achieve his goal with magic where science had failed him, but that the same magic and the conditions of it make it impossible for him to remember his victory, making the whole thing rather bittersweet when he can't be entirely sure that he saved her at all.

Smartest man and dumbest man at the same time

At least it went out with a bang.

meanwhile thousands of people die because of the bombs that doom previously planted.

Otherwise

He doesn't need it, he is literally the greatest man to ever live, once he managed to hit his peak and become a literal god he fixed the entire planet and then gave up his power because it was beneath him

when he did that thing with the future foundation he was somewat working trought it

I could but I’d be wrong

But which Marvel character would be his therapist?

It's sort of Doom's theme: He has the intellect to be a great hero, but he can't get past his many crippling psychological flaws.

Well, the prophecy came true in the end. His mother was cursed by her interaction with demons and Victor was cursed as well when he was in her womb. His mom's soul was sent to hell forever, and Doom was "doomed" to be a sad bastard and spend his entire life at war with the world and with himself. A truly tragic and depressing character, and that makes him so amazing.

@@LA-ev8hg Absolutely, Doctor Doom is one of my top 5 favourite comic book villains: 1) Reverse-Flash 2) Doctor Doom 3) Bane 4) Lex Luthor 5) Joker Funny enough, I just now noticed how similar the premise of Doom's origin is to Bane's origin of also being a bastard child, with a tumultuous life even before birth as his father's revolutionary crimes cursed both his wife and Bane while still in her womb and his mother is imprisoned and also had to give birth to Bane in prison. Of course they are very different people, but I find it funny how they both are bastard son's that have cursed mother's with a horrifying and traumatic life, both holding an unfathomable hatred to their arch enemies. The only difference is that Doom was at least able to save his mother.

@General Gustave No way! Seriously? I know that Johnny can be a playboy most the time, but he literally slept with Dooms fiancé... Holy s***! Literally their archenemy. I need to read this, what issue did this happen.

@General Gustave whAt lmfao

@General Gustave this is not true, it was actually doom who fucked sue posing as reeds using magic

And the rest of their flesh and bones but mostly their hearts

Those hearts got roasted actually...

Especially after everything he has been through, all the things he had to do, all the lives he had to take... It was actually a little nice to see him have some clarity and a little peace.

LMAOOOO

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