indeed, although im starting to develop a resistance to his hairy grippers

Dr Mike's fanbase are a bunch of sexual deviates...... exactly how I like it

W man

It’s like his head is naturally oiled up, my pee pee can’t take it 😩

Mind-penile connection

Yeah I do see it, He is just having fun while giving good information. On other channels he is trying to give the respect the audience and the creator deserves.

😅

Yes. I have learned a lot from Dr. Mike on his own channel, but some of the schtick is getting old. Real old.

I think that’s how he really is, not quite that bad but he does like to joke around a lot on podcasts.

​@@tomjones8235 you must be fun at parties 🤓🤓

Cutting the background music would be extraordinarily welcome

Disagree

@@ParkerBGI disagree with your disagreement

Too percussive or something

More than distracting...totally irritating. I had to turn it off and went to subtitles.

Disagree, I think it would be easier to focus if instead of dropping the music, they instead overlapped 3 separate tracks and pitch shifted them to cover different frequencies, and then muted the vocal track.

@@DILFDylF So? Its still distracting. Like if you speak to a person, you listen to music in the background? Nope

@@Dionysos_____Alters adhd much? Of course people have background music on when talking. You never had a conversation when a radio is on or a tv? Never went to a bar or sat outside a pub?

@@R3dCol0r Yep. No, usually I dont have anything in the background. Btw ADHD people tend to be more focused in situations of chaos and loud noises😄

​@@R3dCol0r lol wut? What benefit does music add? This isn't a bar. Does joe rogan put music on during his podcasts? We're trying to listen to the convo, not listen to music

Same, The Thing was always my favourite out of the 4.

Same here 😅

@@user-ii7xc1ry3xit appears the thing got a lot more moisturised and lost a lot of its pigments

Fr tho

I’m actually using the app and his heuristic has been working really well for me. I’m training some body parts much more and some much less, and my results overall have improved greatly.

Do you mean to not workout at all until youre free from soreness or not workout the sore muscle but the unsore muscles can be worked on?

@@johannesschmitz6370 Correct, workout only what is 100% free from soreness:) In my experience, I would say that you are sabotaging gains if you do not allow a particular muscle group to completely heal. And by heal, I mean, no soreness whatsoever. I want to be 100% when I hit that muscle again Even if that throws off my schedule.

​@@johannesschmitz6370wondering the same thing. Not working out at all if ANY muscle at all is sore seems... well.

Partial reps might be best for muscle growth. A meta-analysis by Wolf and colleagues in 2023 found that compared to using a full range of motion, doing lengthened partials, or essentially half reps in a lengthened position of a movement, could actually lead to 5 to 10% more muscle growth. However, a big limitation of this analysis was that they only had three studies comparing lengthened partials to a full range of motion. With that being said, there have been two more studies since then, one published and one unpublished, that have compared lengthened partials to a full range of motion in the calves, glutes, and hamstrings respectively, finding more favorable growth using lengthened partials. This is actually in line with much of the evidence out there comparing shorter muscle length training to longer muscle length training. Specifically, we have eight studies comparing longer muscle length partials to shorter muscle length partials, with seven finding a benefit in terms of hypertrophy to lengthened partials and the eighth study finding no difference. Likewise, we have two studies comparing the seated calf raise to the standing calf raise, or a more shortened exercise for the gastrocnemius to a more lengthened exercise. One study by Koshida and colleagues and one from our own lab both found the more lengthened exercise, the standing calf raise, leads to more gastrocnemius hypertrophy. So, try half reps in the lengthened position-that's why.

lengthened partials as I understand them is taking the muscle from its most elongated state to partially contracted. One of the easiest ways to illustrate this is to do bicep curls where the arm is fully extended and to curl halfway. The elongation focusing on the eccentric especially is believed to be one of the most effective ways to stress the muscle.

@@MrMariYTBE he’s joking. Milo Wolf is one of the researchers for progressing narrative of lengthened partials.

Dude, not everyone gets a good joke. But hey, you did get a good lesson from those who only have a left side of a brain.

i dont think they understood the joke

This video should help. The, talk about this scenario

If using NSAIDs allows hard training to happen, they're beneficial. The reduction in hypertrophy is likely not tremendous. Closer to 10% than 50%.

You were cutting. I wonder if your body didn't have enough energy to motivate you psychologically to push to the limit required to lift heavier and therefore incur soreness/rebuilding, because it doesn't have the energy to spend on it.

@@tescoownbrandlit I dont think thats it because I always push pretty close to failure especially after the first 2 weeks of a meso. I think its mainly because ive been lifting forever. Probably need to try to find some novel stimulus ive missed

@@JohnProph I think the part about soreness being linked to the remodeling process is important here. You may have gotten a great stimulus that would be enough to make you sore IF you’d had enough nutrients to recover fully. But, if soreness is stimulus + recovery, and you are missing the recovery pieces, then you get no or less soreness.

I want an answer on that. If I do not train after a soreness, the sore muscles get worse and last longer. On the other hand, if I train them even at the next next, the pain decreases until there is no more.

But you can do a bunch of junk training, never develop strength or muscle growth and still get sore. Due to things like machine hopping, excessive volume, poor sleep, etc. The mechanisms of soreness is completely independent, and that can present itself in some many more ways than mechanical tension. One of the bigger eye openers I had on soreness, besides having spun my wheels for 3 years, getting sored every session, yet putting minimal strength/size, is when I started stretching/rolling after leg training. With the *exact same* workout, I felt half as sore the next day. I understand how people get sore (I myself feel sore as shit right now) and mentally link the two, but once you take the entire context into account, I just can't see it as anything more than correlation.

I just hit all time PRs this year natural 550, 370, 605 SBD at 36 yo. Im going to get sore every session.

that is more than just being sore. maybe something like siatica.

Might be a delayed onset chronic muscular disease- better get it checked out

That's not the argument, though...he's saying a lack of soreness is an indicator that volume MAY be too low, not that lack of soreness indicates your volume IS too low.

For some reason this never happened to me. If I train legs 1x a week I'll be sore, 2x I'll be bed ridden. Maybe this effect is just people adjusting as they get stronger.

@@user-he4ef9br7z when you first start a 2x a week program, you need to give it time. When I first ever did a 2x a week program it was Layne Norton’s PHAT. The first 3 weeks you will be sore multiple sessions. You’re not supposed to train to failure the first 3-4 week. After the 3rd week you can feel the difference. Personally I don’t get very sore except in my chest and hamstring mostly. On the rare occasion my back will get sore if I switch an exercise out then it goes back. My side delts NEVER get sore, even training them 16 sets a week to failure for every set and with all kinds of drop sets, and they’re easily my strongest bodypart.

You are pretty small though

Quite the achievement

@@Jk-zv6tz Thanks! I worked really hard

Underrated comment. Plus you have "this is my failure" dorks like Shoenfield out there, who's built like a bag of oatmeal running these "hypertrophy" studies......and you realize the science to lifting is way behind the curve, like it is on a lot of other things.

There's not even a standardized time protocol for measuring muscle growth. Good reason to believe that measuring a muscle 48 or 72 hours after novel high volume training, which is very typical, is measuring swelling and inflammation, not growth

Also not on gear. When I was years back I found pounding muscles into the ground creating soreness was more optimal

What's your 10 rep max on bench/ DB press?

@@adrians5875 that’s random lol. 50kg dumbells and 115kg for bench

@@adrians5875 I don’t ever go below 10 reps for anything. I don’t train for strength anymore

What would you call it?

@@Garrettdx1988 Narrative pushing, idek…

@@SamSimplyTrains exercise science will aways be a softer science than something like organic chemistry. i see mike and milo use an appropriate level of intellectual humility to make educated nuanced guesses and don’t know what else i should expect to see

@@chairmanlifts check out Chris Beardsley, very educated and respected in this field.

@@chairmanlifts we don’t need guesses, we know.

he’s like 6ft4

You're insane if you think his physique is bad. He has a few unfortunate insertions and maybe not the best genetics for his muscle bellies, in addition to being very tall, but he looks pretty developed. His clothing choices don't help

@@BBBerti I did not say it was bad Lack luster means not very impressive considering his supposed prowess with masterful training tactics and ( scientific training protocols) he is still very young also and yes he is tall however if his methods are so groundbreaking I would imagine he would be far more developed none the less Don’t get your panties in a bunch I do not have a PhD but would run circles around him in a gym setting

@@modemarcoj8026 you need to contextualize how every single phd says that very generic training + time + genetics will get you very far and that they are debating 5-10% nuances

We in here -Milo

Oy vey😂

Yeah effective reps are kinda bs if you consider power lifting

@@ekroizm How so? They’re definitely still applicable, they just don’t get close enough to failure AND they generally work with compounds that are too diverse in terms of muscles worked so it’s unclear which one is receiving stimulus.

Yeah but effective reps near failure=soreness.....so....

@@taylorhillard4868 not at all…

@@SamSimplyTrains they do for me. In fact I can control how long I'll be sore by nothing else other than proximity to failure. If I don't want to be sore I stay 5+ reps from failure. If I do that I can do an infinite number of sets and never be sore. 4 reps from failure is 1 day sore, 3 is 2, 2 is 3-4, 1 is 4-5, and failure is 5+. Proximity to failure is inextricably linked with soreness and to what degree it manifests.

that's just obviously not true

I think the fact that you discovered this in the fifth grade is a pretty clear indicator that it’s a bad idea.

@@SamSimplyTrains It's a pretty clear indicator that I have a higher IQ than you, and I'm more physiologically intuitive. But, to be fair, I cannot speak for anyone who is a juicehead.

rest periods?

@@Chriscrusty Nah, soreness is obviously a great proxy for tracking recovery, which is what the guy is saying.

you are pretty small though