The cinematography in this conversation is IN-CREDIBLE!!

He's incredibly and refreshingly honest about what he's sure about and what he's assuming

Donald Hoffman is underrated! Love his TED talk.

Who wants to see a discussion between Hoffman and Sean Carroll.

"If humanity has any chance of maturing beyond its barely controlled adolescence, we're going to need a much better understanding of what consciousness is, and what it --- and by association all of us --- are really capable of."- Dean Radin (Real Magic 2018)

Also refreshing to have someone questioning Hoffmans assumptions unlike most interviews I've seen.

If all consciousness ceased to exist, what would matter be? Well, it wouldn't matter much.

That’s what I love about scientists. They are truth seekers first and foremost.

Congratulations mr Donald Hoffman on your excellent proposition on consciousness . Consciousness includes time and space within itself . It is the grand field in which all the time, space , all the four fundamental forces find their abode . Consciousness not only creates matter but supports it too . Individual consciousness is like cloud drops in the supreme consciousness . In Hindu scriptures Vishnu is the god of consciousness , who is the source of energy , who is much much faster than light and has entered everywhere as the sheet anchor of existence . The Vedic manthras state this and much more . But they are like theorems and parables which only devoted scientists like you can unravel .

My two favorite people. I love their ideas and the way they explain these topics. Helps make sense of theories, leaves it open to interpretation and further exploration.

1. Observer effect in quantum mechanics questioning true objective reality 2. Evolutionary argument that concious agents do not see reality as it is. 3. Concious experience of absolute consciousness and selflessness in meditators/drugs(DMT, LSD)/psychiatric states. I feel these three independent observations need to be reconciled in a single model to reach to the answer. The third might seem out of place but such experiential states are how very similar ideas have arisen in older eastern philosophies.

Finally, someone gets it 100% correct. Well done Mr Hoffman. What is there that is not experienced through our consciousness?

What an awesome concept it is, that the fundamental reality is consciousness, not space, time , matter, or energy - all of those are derived from and secondary to the consciousness. Wow!

Secret societies have known that consciousness causes the Cosmos for thousands of years. I like the tree and its leaves analogy best when it come to perceiving the different types of consciousness. Each person is like a single leaf with a simple awareness of what is around it while the tree itself is aware of far more, from all the leaves, branches and the whole tree including the roots and the whole system that makes the leaves possible. An individual leaf might care most about itself and it's immediate surroundings while the tree itself would care more about the wellbeing of the whole. Leaves could only theorize about the existence of roots which I has never seen and presume they perform their work behind the scenes making it all possible.

What a great interview, Robert for challenging Donald, and Donald for his well reasoned responses. Love it!

He talks with so much clarity. Not a moment does he stammer which shows how fluid his thoughts are. Where can i get the full talk?

And isnt it a beautiful thing when the sound and photography are executed to the highest standards as they are on this superb clip 💘

Donald Hoffman is doing a great job with this series.

This looks like it was filmed in some kind of heavenscape that their conciousnesses conjured up

Insightful and refreshing

The kind of elegance you are looking for may be the Mahayana Lankavatara Sutra ; a discourse between Shakyamuni Buddha and one of his wisest recruits, Mahatmi. ^^

Absolutely right. Who we really are is beyond the limitations of experience and belief.

Can we skip floating back and forth through the idyllic background setting? Is it not enough to just sit across the table from each other and converse? The interviewer is in love with the idea and success of his brilliance.

This is extremely interesting and thought provoking ~~ my question is how does conscientious arise in the first place (particularly human)?

mind and matter are not separate substances. Rather, they are different aspects of our whole and unbroken movement David Bohm

Tom Campbell hypothesized that the 'material world' is a virtual reality that evolved from primal consciousness. This would explain why newtonian and quantum worldviews can't be reconciled assuming the materialistic model. If the universe is does turn out to be a VR it would explain stuff like the double slit experiment, why the speed of light is a constant and many other things. Check out Tom's videos on UKposts. Very interesting.

Good lighting and camera work set up in this video.

absolutely , the problem is most scientist don't understand that our universe is much crazier than we think...And we don't think much..We don't even know why we sleep..Hoffman is daring to think outside the box

This channel is extremely interesting

Buddha knew it too

I think Chalmers may have suggested consciousness as a fundamental force as well, but it's quite a leap to go from that to subjective idealism.

Honestly discussing physics is a de facto objective idealist conversation. The materialist must use very careful linguistics like "causal relation" and "spacetime interval" to even cope with one's lightcone's "elsewhere". Physicialism's privilege is only nativity, as in naive realism. Once one begins the metaphysical journey, they must either depart from naïveté OR deeply invest in materialist woo. All objective idealism requires is one recognize that length contraction and time dilation are ongtological. This flattens spacetime to the rest frame. All particles are then "mental" constructs as in they are experienced AS possessing these objective qualities of time and geometry from our A-theoretical phenomenal space, which is an false objective space.

We evolved to think in terms of cause of effect. This is because of how we perceive time. Except that time does not exist the way we (or to be honest, "most people") perceive it (as something 'linear'). Once it's understood that time is not an actual thing, cause and effect fall through the bottom and new questions can be raised. Consciousness doesn't "cause" anything, it just "is" as much as Gravity "is" and we know about as much about gravity as we do about consciousness. Now you can argue that gravity 'causes' things to fall. But gravity doesn't just appear out of nowhere, it cannot be turned off, and things that fall as an effect of the gravitational field did not just appear there either. We like to create abstract models and calculate and explain things that way but 'reality' is not a closed and limited system. It just 'is'. And it is in motion - a perpetual motion - which because of philosophical victim stances cannot or should not exist (according to what or why not, then? Is there a moral argument in this mix? If so, what does morality have to do with physical reality?) Consciousness just 'is'. It's a system that biology taps into and utilizes as part of survivor mechanisms, just as it utilizes energy from light, chemical processes, physical properties.. brains utilize electrical and chemical processes which are paradoxically beyond comprehension to themselves. Through these processes they tap into consciousness and here we are. Is consciousness CAUSED by the brain? NO. Just as much as gravity is not CAUSED by a thing that falls as a result of being in the gravity field. Does gravity cause the thing to fall> The thing falls as an effect of being in the gravity field. But has to be in the field first, so the first cause is getting into the gravity field. Translated . Consciousness does not cause a brain to exist. The brain has to exist first to be able to tap into consciousness, and the brain evolved to become better at that, just like wings of birds evolved to optimize flight and manoeverability according to the survival needs of the various bird types. I can go on rambling like this. It's all very clear to me and I am convinced it can be clear to anyone who just takes the time (!) to let go of extraneously imposed philosophy and thought patterns.

I think Hoffman is really on to something!

I subscribe to all he says - and this is fully aligned with what Idealism postulates. The nature of reality is mental, not material. Read and watch also e.g. Bernardo Kastrup on this topic (PhDs in computer science and Philosophy).

Hoffman is the Copernicus of the 21st century. His model --shared by many-- is THE breakthrough we humans need... and quickly.

He's making my head hurt in a wonderful way.

Modern science says that from a singular mass that rapidly expanded and cooled, the entire universe and all in it, including the forces of nature that it all operates by, and including you and me and our supposed consciousness', all came into existence. BUT, does the universe and all in it actually exist per se, OR does only this singular mass exist in the form of all things? Same reality, two different perspectives. Which one is really true? Are they both true? Do "I" exist and yet not exist, depending upon the context? How could "I" ever cease to exist if "I" never ever existed at all in the first place? And if this singular mass wanted to exist as you and/or me for literally all of future eternity, couldn't it do so if it chose to do so? (This singular mass having a consciousness as evidenced by the consciousness you and I are supposedly experiencing).

GB Search Avatar image 1:27 / 7:59 Donald Hoffman could gravity and time be the same thing ?

Truth as a static structure vs a dynamic system. To simplify, think of a stack of copy paper with one word on each page. In time, we see each page one at a time, outside of time all of the words, on all of the pages combine to make a single word. This single word is truth, it is the entire story, told in an instant of time. The fractal version of this story has another feature. As each page is presented to us, our intent creates a slightly new meaning that branches out, changing the story, an effect that turns the stack into a tree like structure. The direction of time's arrow is the breaking of the symmetry of the potential of the boundary condition. In other words, if I toss a coin and it has perfect symmetry of potential it will land heads half the time and tails half the time. The symmetry of the potential is broken if the coin tosses are not 50/50. In a perfectly random system, after a sufficient number of tosses, the symmetry for all even number tosses would always be 50/50. Coin tosses are a lot like squaring the circle. You get closer and closer to the true value but you never reach it, like an infinite recursive iteration. If meaning is always fluctuating then we do not ever really see truth, what we see are truth values. In the example of the coin tosses, We have a resolution that gives us a value something like yes that is definitely heads. But if the time scales are very small, we can't see the result of the toss long enough for it to register, and if the scales are very long. we would not live long enough to see the result of the toss. We appear to be right in the middle of these scales. Is this a coincident?

Great guy, relaxed and not too much zealous about his work. For him it's just a intellectual play. Finally we all will die, and possibly get some better explanation;)

The guy talking to don Hoffman has to be one of Einstein's cousins. I can see the family resemblance.

Heavy! I love it!

i set forth the intention to meet Donald. His preception is purly angelic.

Absolutely ridiculous. Post modernism applied to the physical universe itself. Mathematical relativism if you like. A bat see's no light because there is no light, a human see's light because there is light. Both are right. Therefore the bat and the human are sharing 2 overlapping dimensions? Because he can make the maths work

max plank said the same thing

human consciousness brings the reality of the physical universe into being glad to see others agreeing with my opinion on that ,

I wonder if consciosness can interfere or change other consciousnesses? And relatedly, is consciousness only there when perceived by another consciousness?

It's like the cliche , the more we know , the less we know !

I wish the interviewer would've let him talk. I'm interested to hear what Donald Hoffman has to say, not the interviewer.

What is consciousness as being defined here?

I think that modern physics has definitely decided in favor of Plato. In fact the smallest units of matter are not physical objects in the ordinary sense; they are forms, ideas which can be expressed unambiguously only in mathematical language.” Heisenberg

Both parties seem unaware of an essential (and ancient) philosophical distinction at play here - that between Idealism and Realism. Idealism maintains that reality as a whole is constituted by minds (or mind) and that it has no existence all its own independently of mind. Realism maintains the very opposite - that there is a reality beyond mind and it has its existence independently of mind (regardless of the _nature_ of that independently existing reality and of the various ways we may have of interpreting or perceiving it). On this issue, science is of no help. Science would remain the same in the sense that all the empirical evidence, measurements and observations we could gather would remain the same regardless of which is true. It is a purely philosophical matter - a metaphysical matter. I suspect that Philosophical Overdose (below somewhere) has it right in suggesting that Hoffman is a kind of Berkeleyan immaterialist. But that, too, is a purely philosophical thesis. All the science, again, would be consistent with it. On the whole, this video is about issues where the distinction between science and philosophy is essential but goes largely unobserved, especially by scientific sorts. Its absence plays havoc with their understanding and leads them simply to re-invent philosophical wheels that have already been in place and argued about over many centuries.

if reality only exists when being observed, then why does the blind man still bump into things whilst at home alone?

Where is the rest of this interview?

Please explain the mathematics of consciousness?

This interviewer will understand some day... :)

All quantum talk in philosophy turns out to be crap-wrapped juicy soup.

Good stuff.

This is an explanation of what we still don’t understand in the Quantum world, we need sideways thinking a lot now to explain Quantum theories.

Conscious beings come from outside of Time. The Universes were created to house the Holographics of our Worlds and Galaxies and various Dimensions. The Conscious Singularity does Create the Worlds of Creation inside of Time and then parts off "Us" and sends us into the Creations it has created. It is a Miracle and we as Conscious Beings -- keep right on creating once we get into these Created Realms that were created from OUTSIDE of Time.

this interviewer tried to dictate that this man shouldn't present his theory in such a way that it looks like it invalidates established consensus. The same way Boltzmann caused anger among physicists when he proposed atoms. This interviewer even had the nerve to bring in the totally irrelevant comment "it's a free country" as if physics depends on that!! seriously dude? Physics is the search for the truth, not just the truth that you personally prefer.

The Logical Error here is that at 0:40 he mentions "conscious agents" however an "agent" is the medium by which information is transported somewhere or to someOne, we are trying to find that Some-One, the language he uses and the logic he follows is slightly-off, the intention by which he operates is correct, consciousness must be explored.

So how can we test this speculation? Logically it is hard to unravel the circular logic whereby matter is a derivative of consciousness but if that matter is a brain, the consciousness appears to be a derivative of matter.

Kuhn does not let Hoffman express himself. This is the sole occasion in which I've seen him behave that way.

1: What he is saying is that there is nothing to separate your consciousness from mine. 2: Because he is saying that there's nothing that separates one consciousness from another, he is saying that there's only One consciousness... 3: This is what is known as Solipsism. 4: Consciousness requires some form of "container" for which it to occur in, otherwise we are saying that consciousness itself is a substance, OR we are saying that No "physical" substances exist, and we are thereby saying that nothing exists - and if we are saying that nothing exists, then there'd be no consciousness.

I like it.

Isn't "collapsing the wave function" in physics the result of the observation of a wave that creates the matter that we live in?

The normal materialistic view is full of holes. Something always existed. In my view it is nondimensional conciousness. We already know there is no self and that energy can neither be created or destroyed, the law of thermodynamics. And to refer to "accidents" seems very childish when we also know everything is moving with precision. Science will never end and continue to revise beliefs w each passing year. Raw experience is our only tool.

Metaphysical Idealism rules!

In the Buddhist teaching known as the Heart sutra it is explained that consciousness is not fundamental, it is still part of the illusion. More ‘fundamental’ still is Shunyata - but this lies ‘outside’ of time/space, outside of dualism and cannot be expressed using words. It follows that anything that can be expressed in words, thoughts or ideas is not ‘fundamental’ but is part of the illusion. Whilst consciousness may gives rise to the material, there is also that which gives rise to consciousness. (I have realsied that I am using the term 'dualism' in a different sense to that which is used in the video. In the video the dualism referred to is that of mind/body conflict - I am using it in the more mystical sense, as say used in the Vedas and Upanishads, that in our perception each property or quality we speak of has to automatically give rise to its opposite eg left/right, up/down, good/bad, existence/non-existence, etc., etc..)

Gonna be hard to see how we can run experiments to test this hypothesis. I think consciousness is an emergent phenomena from just higher forms of complexity. If we ever get to the singularity, then that would be one method of proving this hypothesis.

I've always thought I was living in a computer program.

The two are co-dependent, causative and reactive to each other. Unity of opposites should be fundamental.

It seems that at the edge of physics, there is a lot of push in the direction of a vector universe, not a pre-rendered pixel (voxel) universe. Think of a multiplayer video game, the world the players live in is only rendered from their perspective. It would be ridiculously inefficient to render the whole world. Time is perceived through a variable in an equation. Space is rendered and projected through your X,Y,Z location and rotation.

1st Hermetic Principle: All Is Mental. And everything that is exists within the mind of the All.

His consciousness is creating the delusion that it is creating the material world.

The cameras moving all the time was distracting. At least have smooth motion if you're going to be constantly moving.

I like alot of what this guy is saying.

Whether he is right or not, a universe without any consciousness is pretty pointless lol

'Its a free country - say whatever you want.' Right. You can be as big a smug presumptive materialist as you like. Doesn't make you right or even a decent interviewer.

David Bohm talks about the most fundamental particles, which he named Consciousness Units.

Consciousness has different levels. One level has the ability to assume an identity and observe. This is the lowest level that allows the consciousness to actualize from the energy field. Another higher level has this and also has the ability to act. As you go higher in consciousness, there is the ability to consider, to mentally project choices. Later comes the awareness of self as an awareness separate from that which has been actualized out of the energy field. And so onward and upward.

When you interview someone and end up talking more than them. Now that I've watched a few more of these videos I do really appreciate his probing style. But the beginning of this was a bit much.

For the record, consciousness does not cause the wave collapse. Quantum phenomena will continue without an observer.

I believe that if we add consciousness as the fifth force to the other forces in nature, like is suggested in the video by the interviewer, without adding the personal choice of the one interviewed, it opens up a much wider area of investigation where no one is right perse and all is as it has been up till now in science: objective conscious observation leading eventually to proof that can be agreed upon..........

I like to imagen that the most mathematical mysteries are to be solved with philosophical instrument. How parallel worlds a clear example when you analize how every individual carries their own version of reality. How our brain's data formats for: past, present are future are the same and affect the configuration of our conscience (4th dimensional) how our neural processes are multidimensional/structural. How ideas are possible outcomes that may remain conceptual for ever or transform the physical plane.

well its funny when the intervwer says that don's claim is outrageous, because he must not have read very much into buddhism or hinduism or others..

The interviewer is so rude and aggressive. I understand trying to play devil's advocate but there are ways and ways to do it.

amazing even that we can abstract away from mere sensory perception at all to conceive of a different world - I know Don makes the argument on separate ' cognitive' abilities but these seem over determined for the natural task at hand which is survival in the short term - I dont need to know the replicator equation when im shopping at the local grocery store. Thinking about ontological primitives the ' external reality' still reigns supreme whatever that is. We are no closer to truth by positing consciousness - as it has to be conscious of ' something' by defintion - i do agree though that theres nothing green inside my head when I look at the grass

Sorry if this has already been asked but is this a version of Plato's cave?

The interviewer sounds a materialist, can’t think outside the box. And never shuts up to listen to him..

I think that consciousness must have a Quantum component because of the observer phenomena, unless anything can act as an observer, then i am wrong. But if it takes only consciousness to be an observer that interacts with a quantum state, then i suggest it does this because it is some how a Quantum system itself, in some degree.

The Law myoho-renge-kyo represents the identity of what some scientists refer to as the ‘unified field of all consciousnesses’. In other words, it’s a sound vibration that is the essence of all of existence and non-existence, the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the true creator of everything that is, ever was and ever will be, right down to the minutest particles of dust, each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves by tapping directly into it by way of self-produced sound vibration. On the subject of ‘Who or What Is God?’, when we compare the concept of ‘God’, as a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to Nichiren’s teachings, the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people call ‘God’ is our enlightenment, which exists nowhere else but within us. When the disciples asked Jesus where the Kingdom of God is, didn’t he tell them that it was within them? Some say that ‘God’ is an entity that can never be seen. I think that the vast amount of information that is constantly being conveyed via electromagnetic waves gives us proof of how an invisible state of ‘God’ could actually exist. It’s widely known that certain data being relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects, including instant global awareness of something or mass emotional reaction. As well as many other things, it’s also common knowledge that these waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to even enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars. However, none of this is possible without a receiver to decode the information that is being transmitted. Without the receiver, the information would remain impotent. In a very similar way, it’s important for us to have our ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our life, all other life and what we and all else that exists truly is. Chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach into the core of our enlightenment and switch it on. That’s because the sound vibration of myoho-renge-kyo represents the combination of the three major laws that underlie all existence. Myoho represents the Law of latency and manifestation (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. One state of myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists. This includes our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them, our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re not being expressed, our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma, and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes obvious to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory, whenever we experience or express our emotions, or whenever a good or bad effect manifests from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it simply means that it has come out of the state of ‘myo’ (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s simply the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing something. The second law, renge, governs and controls the functions of myoho, ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect. The two laws of myoho and renge, both functions together simultaneously, as well as underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination, kyo, is what allows the law myoho to be able to integrate with the law renge. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects together all Life and matter, as well as the past, present and future. It is often termed the Universal Law of Communication. Perhaps it could even be compared to the string theory that some scientists now suspect exists. Just as our body cells, thoughts, feelings and all else are constantly fluctuating within us, everything in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux, in accordance with these three laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible for us to calculate or describe. And it doesn't matter how big or small, important or trivial that anything may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of myoho-renge-kyo. These three laws are also the basis of the four fundamental forces and if they didn't function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. Simply put, all forms of existence, including the seasons, day and night, birth, death and so on, are all moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation, rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two universal states of myo and ho in absolute accordance with renge and by way of kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn in accordance with the workings of what the combination myoho-renge-kyo represents. Nam, or Namu, on the other hand, is a password or a key; it allows us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with myoho-renge-kyo. On a more personal basis, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives from moment to moment, as well in our environment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is turning, and rhythmically chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo for a minimum of ten minutes daily, anyone can experience actual proof of its positive effects in their life. In so doing, we can pierce through even the thickest layers of our karma and activate our Buddha Nature (the enlightened state). We’re then able to summon forth the wisdom needed to challenge, overcome and change our negative circumstances into positive ones. It brings forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that is preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we truly are, regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexual preference. We are also able to see and understand our circumstances and an environment more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. Actual proof soon becomes apparent to anyone who chants the words Nam-myoho-renge-kyo on a regular daily basis. Everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect, so the strength of the result from chanting depends on dedication, sincerity and determination. To explain it more simply, the difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, or producing a song and so on. NB: There are frightening, disturbing sounds and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It's the emotional result from any sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day you are producing a sound vibration that is the password to your true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things, such as your fears and desires etc. The important way to get the best result when chanting is not to see things in a conventional way (difficult to achieve but can be done), rather than reaching out to an external source, you need to reach into your own life and bring your needs and desires to fruition from within, including any help that you may need. Think of it as a seed within you that you are bringing sunshine and water to in order for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s important to understand that everything that we need in life, all the answers and potential to achieve our dreams, already exist within us. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bnOLZI6BqI2D02g.html OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN sings about Nam-myoho-renge-kyo

Donald is great !!

Can someone help me and explain- ¿ is he talking about and promoting a / any type of pansychism ?

Consciousness being the cause of our perception of space and time? Wild. Who knows, maybe it’s true. I love Donald Hoffman’s work; there were some very intriguing claims and questions posed here for sure.

This is an ages old question not easily solved. It boils down to Aristotle's inquiry into the subject. In short, the universe IS Consciousness, what Aristotle called "Being-In-Itself". One can easily tap into and merge with That Pure Consciousness by accessing "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir". Listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks or more. The question of causation was not adequately answered by Aristotle, , who used the exprression "Unmoved Mover" in his books. That's just a talking point, not an explanation. Shankara provided a possible explanation in verse 21 of his Saundarya Lahiri by positing that the Shakti of the Divine Mother was a sort of connecting link to the initial causes. (Again, not completely satisfying). Put another way, how can the '"objects" of the universe be simultaneously Unmoving (Pure Consciousness), and at the same time eternally Moving? This is the Buddhist Principle of the "Simultaneity of Oneness and Difference". The question could very well be unanswerable. It's best to tap into and merge with IT, and explore the Mystery for yourself. Some questions are simply Mysterious.

Hoffman’s TED Talk explains his ideas much better than this. His theory on perception of reality is really smart and refreshing. This makes it sound all over the place. He’s also very open to the fact he may be dead wrong.

If consciousness is more fundamental (which I totally agree), then the theory has to explain: Robert had, als had been very kind to Donald, the right question - does consciousness cause the cosmo?