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@@heavyspoilers Mahdi! What do you foresee for us?

Ma ub Paul shows the way

@@MrSiriusABunsubscribing from me in 2 months

Only the true Spoilerlord denies his spoilers

The GOAT

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Lol

@@heavyspoilerslol well he did get a lot of inspiration from cbg19 DanikaXIX

Great to see creators supporting each other’s work 👌

Your videos are great.Lady Jessica is playing Paul

Best 1 hr of my life ngl!! More videos like this please, another paul another lisan al gaib

Been waiting on this breakdown for ages.

Hell yea now I can avoid English homework

@13.38 You say "Blood in the water!" Cant help but think it as a reference to Don't Flop. @Heavyspoilers 🤣 Defo Big ups Def for that one.💯👊🏽

He says this later

The unsullied of the Dune-iverse 😊

That is true. Spice is a big part of it, how uninhabitable, and the willingness to die for what you believe in. In contrast to the sardukar or harkonnens being forced into service even threatened with death constantly for messing up. It makes for lack of morale, and distrust in your leaders. It is said in the books that the sardukar doubt the emperor because he is such a petty man, always involved in situations that don’t need his involvement because he doesn’t trust anyone and always thinks people are undercutting his power. The sardukar think why should we sacrifice our lives for someone who is such a snake and dishonorable.

plus the fremen live for hundreds of years unless they're killed

People shit on Lynch and the weirding modules but at least it shows that Paul and Jessica brought SOMETHING besides a messianic figure. They entirely omitted teaching the fremen Weirding Way fighting techniques that send them over the edge against Sardaukar

@@treborkroy5280 I look at it like this: those initial Fremen who fought with Paul would’ve watched and taken notice of his moves, learning along the way. Those Fremen would then go on to teach other Fremen, and so on and so on. Remember, it wasn’t just a few days in the timeline. It was several months (although in the books it was even a few years).

I laughed so hard at that "ancestral voice" plot device they added in these films. Instead of putting in the hard work to weave exposition into the script, lets just write a couple of captain obvious lines to make sure the dummies get what's going on and ooh, let's make it sound like Gollum because why wouldn't the collective sum of the voices of ancestral memories sound like a weird monster.

Yeah I think I worded it badly saying it was a hidden one

@@heavyspoilers no worries, great video none the less

Came here to say the same re him using his own crysknife to kill Feyd. Great detail.

Sardaukar had the throat singing

I disagree. Paul can affect what can happen. He knows all the possible future. He can nudged at key points to push toward the future he thinks is best. He was only a generation too early per the BG planning. He had the full power Leto II had, he just didn't have the will to force the GP on the human race.

@@paultoub8403 With respect, he can't which is one of the big themes. He can tinker round the edges but he's being pushed toward the holy war and either taking the throne or being a martyr. It's a fate vs free will. The more he sees the less choice he has. I can't remember exactly where as I'm rereading the books but he explains that although Paul can see all the threads he doesn't know exactly which one will happen in the moment which is a lot different than him pulling the strings and setting the destination.

​@@AllyRowani agree, its explained in the book, he couldnt take the burden

I love the differences in the movie and book. Despite wanting a great movie that sticks to the source material, it’s also nice to see little changes here and there that can leave you thinking and reflecting more on the original work. One thing they barely touched on in the movies(from what I remember, been a minute since I saw part 1), they barely touched on how brilliant Paul already was before he had any contact to the spice. I’m fairly certain they didn’t even mention he was smart enough to become a mentat.

@@peeko_luxx2873 no they didn't I spotted that as well. He was practically a mentat in the books which made him a great strategist under Duncan and guernay. He was just wet behind the ears and an idealist. It slightly annoyed me that they shortened the timescale for him becoming the leader because that timescale of years made more sense that he got the respect of the fremen for the raids he organised. I also think they missed out on highlighting just how good a warrior chani is. The perfect wife for a warrior messiah.

Haha yeah I double dipped too, bit gutted it’s not full screen but still looks great. Thanks for the support mate

There were a couple instances that felt lackluster or just complex scenes that truly were tough to match to the screen. With that being said I still greatly enjoyed the movie so very much. Great casting decisions, great portrayal of characters and acting. The score though, I am still blown away myself from some of those tracks. The one bleeding into the credits is absolutely beautiful and I want to find the name of it. The scene after Paul strikes down Feyd. “Lead them to paradise.” Just the implications of that scene and the somber bitter sweet ending was just so amazingly captured. For those that don’t know what’s to come, Dennis really did a good job with setting the mood. For those of us that do know, well the golden path isn’t an easy path to take. Which is why Paul has a much more difficult time coming to terms with what happens when he does rise to power. Despite the mixed receptions, Messiah is up there as one of my favorite books in the series. Just seeing the rise and then so to speak fall of a character you want to like and root for while also realizing their potential for destruction. Hope they go into detail about the trauma left with those that survived the jihad like in the book. Apologies for the rambles! Cheers

I somehow found it dissapointing

​@peeko_luxx2873 the ending song is called "Kiss The Ring"

@@peeko_luxx2873 _The scene after Paul strikes down Feyd. “Lead them to paradise."_ In Lynch's Dune - it just starts raining. lol. All that was missing was for Princess Irulan to pin medals on everyone except the Wookie. lol.

In the way I’m too humble

Yeah they nailed it all round, love both the book and movie, the interpretation of the book is amazing, has its ties but feels almost like an alternate timeline that Paul saw

Did it occur to you that there are no heroes in “Dune”, and that Herbert consciously chose to depict none? Herbert’s Dune was not meant to include a positive depiction of ANY social groups living in this entirely undemocratic, unfree, illiberal, highly oppressive, reactionary conservative imperialist society in which power is maintained by manipulation, violence, the hoarding of wealth by an artificially constructed narrative surrounding the alleged “superiority” and “natural rights” of a few aristocratic families, the deliberate suppression of science and technology (to the point that computers themselves are illegal due to how much the ruling class fears the power such technology could bring to the masses) … promotion of ignorance among native populations and rigid hierarchical societies of wealth, breeding regulations, … I could go on and on. The society of Dune is basically a byzantine rigidly hierarchical medieval feudal society like any spoiled entitled arrogant rich pre-modern European or English lord or aristocrat from the 1500s would have been comfortable inhabiting. In fact, such people would thrive in the Dune-iverse better than any modern person would, for the only real technology they’d have to get used to would be space travel. Most everything else is based upon ages old principles, as well as an advanced genetic engineering and eugenics (also familiar to medieval people via animal husbandry) to make a superior SERVANT CLASS, instead of using an open society with freely available technology, they instead manufacture an elaborate system of genetically engineered and socially inferior servants reliant upon their masters for the spice to maintain their existence. The Dune universe is a nightmare dystopia; there are no “heroes” depicted in it. None. No heroes in the modern, post-1600, post-enlightenment, post-democracy era sense. There aren’t any heroes in “Dune”, or the first two of the canonical sequels that I’m familiar with; the ones Herbert originally intended to round out the story. Dune is a warning and a depiction of a dystopia. So your criticism of Herbert’s depiction of Chani being due to “60s sexism” misses the mark. The Fremen aren’t heroes. They’re ignorant victims of the Bene Gesserit who have created among them an oppressive religion that keeps them subervient and readily manipulated by the ruling class aristocracy (the “noble houses”) of the Dune universe. Chani is neither better nor worse in the movie or book for not knowing how to fly a thopter / or knowing how; being less a feminist or more a feminist, since the Fremen aren’t in any way meant to be truly emancipated or emancipatory in either the book of the movie. They are victims of a conscious, planned, and longstanding program to encourage ignorance among her people. The fact that in the book Herbert shows the women of the Fremen being victims of gender discrimination and inequality is in fact part of Herbert’s plan, since the Fremen themselves are the products of indoctrination from powerful manipulatibe clandestine outsiders. Herbert meant for them to be seen as violent, anti-heroes themselves, since the moment they begin to form some genuine emancipatory economic and egalitarian class consciousness among themselves, first the Bene Geserit twist this powerful self consciousness to their own ends about the coming a “Lisan Al-Gaiib”. Then Paul in a chilling turn (in the movie) stands before them and tells them to disregard everything they’ve believed up to now, even the things he’d told them up to that moment. He goes full authoritarian dictator in a move not to free them or help the trillions of oppressed common people in the Empire. No … Paul tells them the old rules and customs are no longer necessary… he’s seen the future and it is HIM (and he’ll take them to paradise … an Arrakis covered with water! No one says …. Wait a minute … you’re no going to do that …. The empire runs on spice and this is the only place spice comes from. So … explain how we destroy the source of all the spice again Maud D’ib … and your empire works without it so we can live on a water world here?). Nope … the Fremen are just whipped up into a religious frenzy and he tells them to follow him and do whatever he says. His “great vision of the history and future” is merely how he becomes the autocratic authority at the head of a violent zealous religious army on a jihad that will destroy all opposition so that he personally can rule over the universe. The fact that Paul chooses to employ their highly refined skills at military violence to take his place at the head of basically an otherwise unchanged empire shows the warning Herbert intended Dune to be. There’s no heroes here at all. There’s no new world of democracy and more freedom and prosperity for more people. Dune is a highly disturbing dystopian vision that shows how easy it can be to employ a tightly controlled access to technology to create an entirely retrogressive medieval society that can travel among the stars and use advanced biological techniques to manipulate and oppress whole planets full of people and indeed make them so ignorant they aren’t even aware of what is happening to them. In that they have a lot in common with many that read “Dune” who fail to see it as the through political and social critique of most elements of the “advanced” society Herbert saw around him in the 1950s to 70s, sparing no one from his criticism. It’s a book without any heroes at all, since it’s critique is based upon mid-20th century capitalism fused with the lies European colonizers tell about about their “advanced culture and values” (Christianity starting in the 1400s … through the Enlightenment humanism of the 1600s amd 1700s … up to the “modern democracy” of the 20th century) that are supposed to justify their colonizing efforts and the changes and trouble caused by the economic and political changes that they bring with them.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Dune 2 is great but holy cow you are delusional!

Something you'd like to discuss or are you just frustrated and feel the need to hurl an insult to make yourself feel better?

@@summertyme5748 yes

Lmao the roast

Damn lol

They aren’t wrong

She beautiful though

@@brentloy131 no she's not that's the point of the joke

Much appreciated mate, my favourite one to do as well

Kind of creepy to say

the blade is still in him when he kills feyd. go to 48: 49 of this video and slow it down

@@iluvweezies5688 The gut blade is the one he used.

​@@iluvweezies5688Feyds blade is still in his shoulder but Paul uses his own Crysknife which he pulled out his left side...

Thank you mate, can edit that out

Because of the success in these movies, pretty much everyone should know this already, so no, I'm not sure wtf your on about. People like you are on every video about dune, saying the same thing as if it's deep. THIS IS SURFACE LEVEL. This should not be eye opening, and I don't think it actually is. It's just people like you who think it is. This has been done after dune, and should not be a surprise to modern audiences. The biggest example is Attack on Titan's Erin Yeager. The show actually shares a lot of similarities, but it's view of the "hero" is almost exactly like dunes.

I love a good flaps shot

Them Shai Hulussy flaps

Quinn is the best

Thank you mate

Cheers mate

I was hoping that specific part was going to be shown. Where one fremen dive bombs a sardaukar troop transport

Cheers 🍻

Thanks 🙏

much appreciated

Yeah God Emperor is pretty much just a dude narrating plans

Thank you

Much appreciated mate

Thank you

Thanks so much mate, kept feeling bad cos every day I’d send a new massive chunk through to the editors. They killed it though. Also agree with your thoughts, Part 1 was good but not great but I love it due to how good part 2 pays it all off.

Means a lot thank you

Cheers mate

Thank you

Much appreciated mate

Incorrect

Ah thank you so much mate that goes a long way. Much appreciated

Yeah been trying different setups, difficult to get right but starting to move towards something I’m happy with. Thank you for the feedback.