EA’s “Worst Mistake” - The Tragedy of Battlefield 2042

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Even when stacked against the large and looming shadow of Activision’s Call of Duty, Electronic Arts and developer DICE always positioned Battlefield as the cream of the crop for first-person military shooters. Few would disagree the franchise’s penchant for hosting massive battles and dropping players into hectic vehicle-involved encounters set a precedent hardly rivaled. However, Battlefield 5 tested such thinking, launching in November 2018 to reviews that labeled it messy, unpolished, and technically unsound. The World War 2-set experience found better footing years later, but by that time, series faithful had cast their gaze toward the next major outing-Battlefield 2042.
To a degree, the futuristic Battlefield aimed to abandon and magnify the brand’s core tenets, parting ways with the usual Class system in favor of introducing Specialists. Mainstay features such as the scoreboard also took a back seat at launch in late 2021. DICE further eschewed tradition by not developing a single-player campaign to focus its efforts on building a live service. Unfortunately, 2042 arrived in a disastrous state, plagued with issues that would result in its categorization as the worst launch in brand history.
But after eating crow for months on end, Battlefield 2042’s developers eventually managed to improved upon the base game. Some wondered whether such change came too late, given that amid all the turbulence, EA shared its intention of overhauling the property with new leadership at the helm. The maligned 2021 entry could, thus, mark the end of an era.
This is the tragedy of Battlefield 2042.
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@GVMERS
@GVMERS 8 місяців тому
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@kobra6660
@kobra6660 8 місяців тому
What sad battlefield hardline came out in better shape and with more content
@Swordslinger-hb1ns
@Swordslinger-hb1ns 8 місяців тому
This was certainly a long time coming. I was expecting a rise and fall of Battlefield but a tragedy of 2042 is good enough for me. Now after this you can do a rise and fall of Saints Row considering the developers behind it have since been shut down after their horrific reboot of the franchise.
@chancepaladin
@chancepaladin 8 місяців тому
When I first saw someone playing 'Wanted' I thought it was a lollipop chainsaw remake. lol then I'm like wait no this's Deadpool. then I thought no wait this's Onechanbara. anyway if that's what they were going for, they nailed it.
@aboynamed666
@aboynamed666 8 місяців тому
Yeah, no thanks
@bigbobrossa8524
@bigbobrossa8524 8 місяців тому
8-10 hours playtime...
@Fohacidal
@Fohacidal 8 місяців тому
Dice insisted on not listening to community feedback for BFV and learned no lessons from that with 2042. The absolute insistence on specialists even after the flop is mind boggling, splitting them into classes did nothing but just organize the specialists into four lists
@terrorbilly49
@terrorbilly49 8 місяців тому
Which was more than anything a superficial change. I can still use whatever fuck gun I want (proficiency be damned) and the only real change to the specialists structure is that now I cant use whatever gear I want. Take me back to where I was a medic with an m5 recoiless
@gammatt2513
@gammatt2513 8 місяців тому
@@terrorbilly49 They took away my c4 from sundance with the class restrictions, and then they took away sundances AA grenade because they can't balance their dumb fucking specialists.
@damienlee1165
@damienlee1165 8 місяців тому
It really showed when they stopped adding new specialists after the 2nd or 3rd one. They knew they were bullshitting.
@Adelic1
@Adelic1 8 місяців тому
I really wish they would change it, and I bet they probably would if they could. But they advertised the game with specialists to a lot of people who paid a lot of money. People paid $120 for ultimate editions which promised access to at least 4 season passes and the specialists. If they got rid of the specialists they would technically not be providing what people paid for and could get in trouble.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 8 місяців тому
Which is so sad because by the end of BF5s lifespan, with the Pacific expansion, it was a great game. (Obviously my opinion only but these days it seems you have to tell people that.) They have shown they have the ability to make good games but what they lack is direction. I think they have a "throw at wall and see what sticks" approach. This worked to their favour in BF5 but it was obvious when 2042 came out, the lack of directed focus hurt them badly. It would seem a management "shakeup" is in order, in the same vein as 343. (Fire them all and pray to god you can find competent replacements)
@BucklingSwashes
@BucklingSwashes 8 місяців тому
The fact that so many of the real DICE veterans left after BF1 is why I'm not at all surprised at the fall of the series.
@Mogadypopz
@Mogadypopz 8 місяців тому
That happened for bf5 dummy. And it wasnt because of creative differences . Ea was laying off people left and right.
@jassie89nl
@jassie89nl 8 місяців тому
​@@MogadypopzBF1 was when Battlefield stopped playing/feeling like a Battlefield game. Sadly enough there's no real replacement for it yet, so I'm still stuck in BF4.
@CliveHerbmon
@CliveHerbmon 8 місяців тому
Bfv is good if you forget about all the stuff they never added
@BananaPhoPhilly
@BananaPhoPhilly 8 місяців тому
@@jassie89nlYeah BF4 is the last OG battlefield game. BF1 feels sort of like a spin-off to me. It’s a great game but it didn’t quite have that insane action and movement feel of earlier titles
@not_your_business666
@not_your_business666 8 місяців тому
@@CliveHerbmon yeah despite of art direction and lack of content bfV was a good game from mechanical standpoint. The core gameplay is good.
@dragon_ninja_2186
@dragon_ninja_2186 8 місяців тому
It wasn’t a tragedy, it was a comedy…
@OverG88
@OverG88 8 місяців тому
LMAO! This!
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 8 місяців тому
I dunno… watching it stagger from disaster to disaster is equally comedic and tragic. It’s an in-depth guide on how to shed all goodwill and your best employees, putting out a substandard product.
@thatoneguy5831
@thatoneguy5831 8 місяців тому
Comedy is just tragedy from far enough away
@mickael486
@mickael486 8 місяців тому
with time, many tragedies become comedies. Such as this.
@MachinedFace88ttv
@MachinedFace88ttv 8 місяців тому
​@thatoneguy5831 I think it was pretty good but I'm playing on console
@ARIXANDRE
@ARIXANDRE 8 місяців тому
This one hurts. DICE had already nailed the formula with BF 3, BF 4 and specially BF 1. Then proceeded to break what didn't need fixing
@jinn194
@jinn194 8 місяців тому
That's what a greedier upper management + cycling out the old guard sick of greedier upper management gets you.
@SL4PSH0CK
@SL4PSH0CK 8 місяців тому
BFV wasted potential when it was rehabilitating during Pacific update
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 8 місяців тому
All the devs that made those games are gone. There was an Exodus of experienced devs after Battlefield 5.
@alksdng97834y
@alksdng97834y 8 місяців тому
Dude even 1 was a regression
@theunhingedgamer3762
@theunhingedgamer3762 8 місяців тому
"nailed the formula" do I need to say how BF1 was dead at launch and all the server issues that plagued BF4 at launch? lmao
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam 8 місяців тому
BF 2042 really shows how much EA cares about making games at this point
@DilbertChan
@DilbertChan 8 місяців тому
EA doesn't publish "games", silly. EA specializes in developer acquisition and monetization-focused customer experiences; a steady and safe investment(take note, shareholders!!)
@kobra6660
@kobra6660 8 місяців тому
How do you fail harder than hardlines
@TrUDrEaMz
@TrUDrEaMz 8 місяців тому
@@DilbertChani think you mean EA is the publisher they are not the developers of the game
@Largentina.
@Largentina. 8 місяців тому
​@@TrUDrEaMzI love how much you totally misunderstood what they said lol. Jesus Christ
@MrRetroswag
@MrRetroswag 8 місяців тому
​@@Largentina.we love how you found a way to fake laugh to convince yourself something is absurd, when in reality your just weird
@Vnix
@Vnix 8 місяців тому
Honestly, if an FPS cant even give you a scoreboard, take it as HUGE red flag.
@dex6147
@dex6147 8 місяців тому
I had to scroll way too far to find this comment. Lack of day one leaderboard successfully convinced me to never buy another game from DICE ever again. Glad I didn't buy this POS.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb 8 місяців тому
"Tragic Downfall" implies there was even a downfall to begin with! This game was misguided on all levels!
@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage
@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage 8 місяців тому
i remember it was being hyped to fuck with zero concern and only praise from everyone...until it dropped 😅 so all the shills got exposed again for shilling, what a shock! it was widely agreed that 2042 would shit all over vanguard...and vanguard still came out looking as the far better game and we all know what a dumpster fire it was! this is just modern gaming now, little passion, only interested in profit.
@wrt142
@wrt142 8 місяців тому
I think they mean battlefields downfall but didn't want to make a video about the whole series like they did with Killzone for example
@andrewabrams1535
@andrewabrams1535 8 місяців тому
Was. The game is on the right track right now.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb 8 місяців тому
@@andrewabrams1535 Keep telling yourself that, EA shill. EDIT: Oh sure, they might be adding the old classes back in, but it's too late for that to save anything.
@otherprisma7354
@otherprisma7354 8 місяців тому
​@benbell5407 Actually, the player base has increased after the updates.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 8 місяців тому
The fact they got rid of/ignored their highly experienced, creative team members, in order to lamely snap after dying trends, several years too late is unironically very sad. And it doesnt have to be like this
@creasefold1986
@creasefold1986 8 місяців тому
Looking out across the battlefield and seeing 50 boris's is just ridiculous.
@XenosSavior
@XenosSavior 7 місяців тому
Especially because he sux :P
@crzzymnn911
@crzzymnn911 8 місяців тому
Its the same with 343. Both franchises had this massive cash cow already established and all they had to do was continue the formulas but they both magically fumble the ball. Its actually impressive.
@deadpan2866
@deadpan2866 6 місяців тому
its a bit different, nice and EA have a bunch of no name executives in the background who stayed hidden why they caused battlefield to suffer as the devs cried. 343 didnt have any permanent devs and the entire 343 leadership smiling and publicly taking credit for terrible decisions. 343 was far more public with its stupidity
@austin21x
@austin21x Місяць тому
Disney with Star Wars. WB with DC. Etc etc. Everything has lost its soul
@axt2
@axt2 8 місяців тому
I already know this is going to make me depressed. I don't even understand how they could drop the ball this bad. They literally just had to make the same game with new guns, vehicles, maps, and updated graphics and everyone would've been happy. How do you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like this?
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 8 місяців тому
Upper management are greedy idiots who care more about shareholders than making good games. And yes, I’m aware fiduciary responsibility is a thing. Still greedy
@mrunitforge
@mrunitforge 8 місяців тому
by developing a game after engagement and purchase statistics instead of looking what made the other games so successful
@andrewmeyer3599
@andrewmeyer3599 8 місяців тому
With EA magic ie put too many fucking studios behind a single game and as such nothing important actually gets done and good ideas get smothered by terrible ones
@MaoriNative_NZ
@MaoriNative_NZ 7 місяців тому
You talk cringey
@GeremyG
@GeremyG 8 місяців тому
Battlefield fans couldn’t be clearer about what they want and DICE refuses to listen each and every time. Their failure is self inflicted.
@robkinney1974
@robkinney1974 8 місяців тому
It all went to hell with Battlefield: V. "Don't like it, don't buy it." Challenge accepted.
@KingKimwer
@KingKimwer 8 місяців тому
BFV had awful marketing and PR, but next to BF2042 that things a masterpiece.
@robkinney1974
@robkinney1974 8 місяців тому
@KingKimwer , I wouldn't know. I refused to buy either one of them. I took their advice. I still have 2142 in my library. That game was amazing. Once they announced 2042 instead of an updated 2142, I was out.
@KingKimwer
@KingKimwer 8 місяців тому
@@robkinney1974 i got BFV for free and BF2042 I bought when it was incredibly cheap, and I refused to buy any additional cosmetics just so the devs dont make money. Ill tell you this much after all the updates, patches and everything that was improved, it is literally just OK at best
@tearex8688
@tearex8688 8 місяців тому
I bought bfv cause i thought it would be good like bf1 and it would get better....that frozen-clock charm still kills me everytime i remember it.
@WetWiIIy
@WetWiIIy 8 місяців тому
So pumped for a WW2 version of BF1 when the BFV reveal dropped. It's actually awe-inspiring how much DICE- not EA, but DICE- fucked up the marketing, and subsequently the future of, what should have been a legendary title. It's never been the same since imo.
@Gadfly818
@Gadfly818 8 місяців тому
DICE expended their last bit of good will of the fans with this game. Battlefield V basically ended the franchise for me but that 2042 trailer showing the RendeZook made me believe they were returning to form. What a slap in the face.
@swaaahtome
@swaaahtome 8 місяців тому
the absolute cuck fest that was BFV, cringe game. They fuckked the golden goose.
@yootchoobe
@yootchoobe 8 місяців тому
And yet it's kinda nuts that there will _still_ be those not-too-bright kids that will queue to preorder the next one on the back of paid-for hype recommendations by the ball licking EA Creator Network shill machine 🤦
@user-cu7ck2cf3v
@user-cu7ck2cf3v 8 місяців тому
I couldn't play BF5 at the launch, but after a couple of years I tried it with friends and after a few rounds I understood the game mechanics and enjoy it. I felt the work of fixing like BF4. It's a different experience, but it's BF. But in 2042 everything is bad.
@Darkstar198
@Darkstar198 8 місяців тому
Rendezook?? I visibly cringed when I saw that in the trailer. And I'm not even a BF2 veteran; I got into BF3 on console. Can't even imagine how the earlier vets who are probably over the franchise's trend chasing handled seeing a pre-rendered cinematic featuring some bullshit a forgotten Russian player did exactly once in BF3 about thirteen to fifteen years ago.
@cLdYGaming
@cLdYGaming 8 місяців тому
@@Darkstar198 Been playing since 2142(2006). It's so sad how BF has ended up.
@PenguinDT
@PenguinDT 8 місяців тому
The setting of this game was so cool that I am beyond pissed how badly it was pissed away in lack of campaign. This could've been a really interesting take on apocalyptic horror, but no... it is all 'specialists', emotes and oneliners.
@swani24
@swani24 8 місяців тому
Exactly! How did they not play on that theme more??? Such wasted potential.
@tearex8688
@tearex8688 8 місяців тому
Yea. It had a cool background story.
@the_shadow_clasher
@the_shadow_clasher 8 місяців тому
they killed a character for nothing
@LordLOC
@LordLOC 8 місяців тому
Again for me, they just wanted to invoke Battlefield 2142 (and you can see some of the ideas for that world being laid out here with the weather events and stuff going on in the "lore" in the game) without actually making a prequel in any way to 2142.
@lexc1560
@lexc1560 8 місяців тому
The cinematic ad for the game had me so hyped. I wanted to see why these two friends were estranged, what happened to the world? Instead they pulled a Halo 5 bait and switch to trick customers with a false narrative. Except here it was NO NARRATIVE.
@unknowntiger9108
@unknowntiger9108 8 місяців тому
This one broke my heart as a BF fan. Now I play Battlebit, but it isn't the same. It makes me miss BF even more.
@MrSilk13642
@MrSilk13642 8 місяців тому
BB is also dead.
@BourbonBandit-
@BourbonBandit- 8 місяців тому
@@MrSilk13642probably the most predictable thing ever. Games becoming popular based on a trend never last too long
@MrSilk13642
@MrSilk13642 8 місяців тому
@@BourbonBandit-Game's hype was based upon pure streamer hype and BF4 boomer hopium
@tpkkr
@tpkkr 8 місяців тому
​@@MrSilk13642bf4 boomer hopium? Man.. atleast say bf2 hopium..
@Matt-rx6we
@Matt-rx6we 8 місяців тому
@@MrSilk13642 13 thousand people playing a game made by a handful of people is considered dead? LOL
@Terneyah
@Terneyah 8 місяців тому
I, as a BF-veteran - playing since BF42 - was kinda shocked to see how ridiculous the movement speed of the troops was, even making vehicles kinda.. useless? Hope they wont keep it like that in the future. It feels like CoD with vehicles as a gimmick. 😕
@Cheka__
@Cheka__ 8 місяців тому
Yes. I don't often hear people mention that. The players move cartoonishly fast and that dumb sliding mechanic belongs in CoD, not Battlefield.
@Swisshost
@Swisshost 8 місяців тому
In my opinion was BF4 movement perfect. It was natural and no bullshit like sliding.
@stitch77100
@stitch77100 8 місяців тому
Bf 1942, bf2, 2142 and then bf3 and 4. The movement speed always increased a bit but was reasonnable, and justified the tactical use of vehicules to move around the map, especially in empty space between points. Now, moving in squads in a vehicle serves no purpose other than being a more appealing target to the enemy which will score more points. The map has more features to hide in/near (which is great) but the vehicles are not practical or powerfull enough to justify using them tactically and trying not to lose them... It's CoD with some vehicles, not BF anymore (maybe since BF1 or 5 even...)
@terrorbilly49
@terrorbilly49 8 місяців тому
I stuck to my guns and didn't play this until recently. I gave it a chance and yeah it can be fun, but you're constantly reminded of how it can be better. I don't think it can escape that shadow.
@LoneWanderer905
@LoneWanderer905 8 місяців тому
Same. I played it on EA Play just to test, it was fun for like 2 hours, but I ended up coming back to Battlebit. Better community (tbh 2042 barely has any), better game, better devs.
@Dangerman-zg3ui
@Dangerman-zg3ui 8 місяців тому
I mean the problem is that 2042 can't really be improved that much because it is fundamentally a shallow hero shooter at its core and changes that'd say make large maps + 128 players way better can't be added in like far larger squad sizes (I mean 4 man squads *barely* work on 64 players, on 128? Awful). This game was made and designed as a run and gun hero shooter because of Apex, CoD at the time and probably some leads seeing Vanguard going to be WW2 in late 2019/early 2022 thinking they could withstand any revolting BF fans against Specialists with CoD fans lining up to buy BF like they did with BF3 and BF1, both titles going in a direction that a lot of long time fans at both of those mentioned releases did (being the more simplistic titles in the franchise).
@terrorbilly49
@terrorbilly49 8 місяців тому
@@Dangerman-zg3ui I can't imagine playing with 128 people. I main Falck so I find it frustrating that 2042 does a horrible job at organically creating Frontlines. I spend most of my time running around trying to get into the action but it feels more like running from skirmish to skirmish. No one communicates; I'll have squad members just passing by me while I'm downed like I didn't revive them minutes ago. 2042 suffers because it's trying to be a hero shooter but also trying to be Battlefield. I wish they made up their minds instead of chasing trends and shitty communities.
@terrorbilly49
@terrorbilly49 8 місяців тому
@@LoneWanderer905 it's easy to get into but you run into a plateau. I mean it's hard to engage with the game because it's like why the fuck are we all fighting? There's no real incentive to work together, just me VS everyone with a bunch of others who may as well be NPCs.
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 8 місяців тому
I stuck to my guns and didnt buy any of the series after 4, you broke my friend, you broke and didnt stick to anything and only contributed to the downfall of our beloved hobby, so thanks for that.
@CeJAZZ
@CeJAZZ 8 місяців тому
"Humility and integrity are the hallmarks of a good game industry leader." And yet, here we are.
@HeyKyle
@HeyKyle 8 місяців тому
The way Battlefield 2042 went from being so insanely hyped from the second that first trailer dropped to its absolute FAILURE of a launch is honestly just sad
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 8 місяців тому
I got this dumb idea for the BF devs to make monkey without re buildings a new game from the ground up. Just make new content for BF5. The game was getting there with the Pacific Theatre content then the devs dropped it. RB6 was declining a few years after launch but the devs pushed throgh and in the 2nd season the player count started going up.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 8 місяців тому
Fancy seeing you here! Personally I hated the concept of BF5. If they were to do that I'd say focus on BF1, since it has a more solid foundation. That being said, I think the better option is to take a hard solid look at BattleBit, understand why it's so popular right now, and create a free-to-play game with simpler graphics, minimal cosmetic microtransactions, and use it as a reset of the franchise, using the cosmetics to fund development, and making it free-to-play to encourage people to take a look. When I think about Battlefield, I think about the old games, not the new ones. There's a reason for it, and BattleBit hit the nail square on the head.
@SL4PSH0CK
@SL4PSH0CK 8 місяців тому
Got BFV during recent sale, I dig it for its crouch run which was utilize in the Pacific update with environments that gives tactical advantages notably Wake Island.
@tearex8688
@tearex8688 8 місяців тому
Me: ww2 battlefield ? Ea/Dice: ww2 punkish hero trash take it or leave it.
@s0und350
@s0und350 8 місяців тому
There can be no "downfall" if the game never took off.
@DamplyDoo
@DamplyDoo 8 місяців тому
I still remember the Desert Combat mod for 1942. One of the best multiplayer experiences ever
@Rickoshay
@Rickoshay 8 місяців тому
DC kicked off all future BF games. We played DC coop on a Lan with around 10 players for years.
@jeff3229
@jeff3229 8 місяців тому
Me too 😊
@vittekantilles4178
@vittekantilles4178 8 місяців тому
Forgotten Hope... Eye of Destruction.. Desert Combat... damn those were the days.
@DamplyDoo
@DamplyDoo 8 місяців тому
@@vittekantilles4178 in college i played desert combat so much. I got so good at the heli controls. What a weird control setup for helicopters... but it worked!
@KILLERAOC
@KILLERAOC 8 місяців тому
god the desert combat forum…that takes me back
@WAProdthejohman
@WAProdthejohman 8 місяців тому
EA is the Disney equivalent of the gaming industry, destroying beloved franchises just to follow the latest trends, loosing a bunch of money while they do and learning nothing from it
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 8 місяців тому
What a weird way to spell Blizzard Entertainment.
@Spillow-C
@Spillow-C 8 місяців тому
they ripped apart so many studios too, not just the franchises itself, the bioware stuff still hurts to this day
@nitroxylictv
@nitroxylictv Місяць тому
Battelfront 2, Battlefield 5, Star Wars: Squadrons, Battlefield 2042, Battlefront Classic Collection... those are just a few of their mainline games. Dont forget they also regurgitate Madden, MLB, NHL and Fifa every year... 🤦‍♂️ Star Wars and Battlefield deserve a new parent company with how theyve been treated recently. Its like watching a parent slap their kid in public for wanting candy and giving them vegatables instead.
@lampshade6967
@lampshade6967 8 місяців тому
The fact they killed battlefront 2 for this is so sad
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 8 місяців тому
I don't know how up to date the game is at the point of making this video but there is nothing coming that could change what Battlefield 2042 is, it's over.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 8 місяців тому
they decided not to listen to their customers. and paid for it dearly. they DESERVE it.
@shaggytoph
@shaggytoph 8 місяців тому
For those wondering, CoD did "Specialists" back in blops 4 2018 and there players hated that system (lot of battlefield players played cod during that time, even bf devs played cod like DRUNKKZ3). So basically bf devs stole a system everyone hated in the other game just to put it in battlefield, like if they were disconnected from reality.
@fernfolch
@fernfolch 8 місяців тому
I have a friend who likes the bf franchise so much he went full on denial when this game failed and needed therapy
@ZomgZomg007
@ZomgZomg007 8 місяців тому
One thing they nailed was the trailers. Marketing team nailed it
@OkamiiSenpai
@OkamiiSenpai 8 місяців тому
I just appreciate how old 3 and 4 devs called out the game as not battlefield online. Bless those guys.
@RossTheNinja
@RossTheNinja 8 місяців тому
Everyone who pre orders needs to look at this game. You're letting the big companies get away with this crap
@BlindMango
@BlindMango 8 місяців тому
All the crew who made Battlefield up to Battlefield 3 are long gone and everyone at the dev studio now have to relearn what the people before them did so well, which is just baffling and perhaps impossible but I wish them well
@Warfan-sg7pu
@Warfan-sg7pu 8 місяців тому
The heartbreak from this game was so bad, I just stopped playing video games altogether
@RobertSmithhalo
@RobertSmithhalo 7 місяців тому
All I gotta say is I remember thinking about buying the game when it first came out. And oh boy did I dodge a bullet.
@Rickoshay
@Rickoshay 8 місяців тому
The worst thing to happen to BF was for Dice to merge with EA. Dice/EA are now purely profit driven. They aren't passionate about the BF franchise any longer - and we can feel it
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 8 місяців тому
Always has been. Gaming companies has always been profit driven. They do not work for charity.
@danrothman6129
@danrothman6129 8 місяців тому
And mind numbingly injecting PC culture into their player base. Even if 2042 started to become a real good game, I'm not touching it. Back in 2021, it really felt like they really cracked the whip on us. That was just insane. 😧
@EmSeeMAC
@EmSeeMAC 8 місяців тому
@@triadwarfaremissed the point entirely. You can still be passionate about your product and make profit.
@nitroxylictv
@nitroxylictv Місяць тому
We have the power to dismantle that, just dont buy any more of their games. Thats how you win in capitalism. You stop giving the big corpos money. Theres no such thing as a monopoly without the consumers.
@OnyxSkiesXIX
@OnyxSkiesXIX 8 місяців тому
I know there is basically no chance but I still have a tiny shred of hope that they make Bad Company 3 someday. BFBC2 is still the most fun I've ever had with an online FPS, the perfect balance between the approachability of COD with the size and vehicles of BF.
@L.J.Kommer
@L.J.Kommer 8 місяців тому
I honestly hope they don't make BC3. I'd rather it never exist than DICE and EA fucks it up.
@mrbaywatch21
@mrbaywatch21 8 місяців тому
​@@L.J.KommerFACTS
@brendameistar
@brendameistar 8 місяців тому
32p is kind of a turn off for me in bc2
@krishutch3d
@krishutch3d 8 місяців тому
Do you really think these guys are capable of making a good version of bad company ?. They will just make a janky copy of whatever game is popular at the time and stick a bad company logo on it
@1wandersmann
@1wandersmann 6 місяців тому
the battlefield franchise is done
@homefront1999
@homefront1999 8 місяців тому
2042 was something no one asked for. It's genuinely weird. No one ever thought they needed to do away with the class system. One of the staples of the series. Plus instead of faceless soldiers we got unwanted Siege ripoff characters. I genuinely think the best option would be to remake Bad Company 1/2 and/or BF3. I remember EA saying when BF4 mid development. That after the next entry ( Turned out to be Hardline) We would see Bad Company 3 finally. I see that was a lie.
@elitesanghili
@elitesanghili 8 місяців тому
Battle bit Remastered is the response from the community on the direction BF has gone. If they don’t see that and change with their direction, BF is truly gone.
@Twilleh
@Twilleh 8 місяців тому
There's nothing tragic here at all, they did this to themselves.
@bagggers9796
@bagggers9796 7 місяців тому
That's still a tragedy according to shakespeare
@madrigo
@madrigo 8 місяців тому
I've made a video on the downfall of the franchise as a whole, and how that lead to Battlebit. Battlefield literally started showing HUGE red flags in BF4. It went downhill from there...
@madrugation
@madrugation 8 місяців тому
ABSOLUTELY!!
@ArtsyJustin
@ArtsyJustin 8 місяців тому
They were showing huge red flags in BF3. BF4 is what BF3 should've been if they had developed it more.
@jonpro9637
@jonpro9637 8 місяців тому
​@@ArtsyJustinBF 3 had better maps
@PBxFuture
@PBxFuture 2 місяці тому
​@@ArtsyJustin BF3 is superior to BF4 in my opinion.
@jojoboyrockz
@jojoboyrockz 8 місяців тому
Thank you for confirming that Wanted Dead is, in fact, a game that exists.
@danielmiller7635
@danielmiller7635 8 місяців тому
One of the if not THE most under rated gaming-doc UKposts channels. Since I have been watching for years, just wanted to let you guys know you are appreacited. Great work.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 8 місяців тому
Theyr great but I dint understand making a video of this mediocre boring game
@stitch77100
@stitch77100 8 місяців тому
​@@wingedhussar1453 Beloved license going into hell with each new installement since bf3/4. This new game being the worst (taking one famous license and changing it to a more CoD/R6 Siege type of game to surf on "tends" perceived by executives and directors, instead of capitalising on what the name "Battlefield" is known and loved for and creating a game that would appeal to the fans of the license and be different enough to attract new players that don't want a new CoD clone (they already own and play CoD or a clone) EA being EA in other terms. Yes, it absolutely deserved an episode.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 8 місяців тому
idk the hype for this game wasnt even there and battlefield 1 was a success ,i feel a better video would be on battlefiedl ww2@@stitch77100
@shmookins
@shmookins 8 місяців тому
With the issues of BF5, I was excited that BF6 will be amazing because they would have learned their lessons. Little did I know at the time that BF1 would be 'the last' BF game. I hope the glory days of BF3 will come back, but seeing how things have been going with the franchise for years now I seriously doubt those days will ever return. Such a shame.
@benjaminw6985
@benjaminw6985 8 місяців тому
I’ve been playing battlefield since BF1942 and I enjoyed some bits of BF5. Mostly the entrenching system. I know it slowed down map development but I also didn’t play BF5 until it was already fully developed and all DLC was free. Honestly, I would’ve been happy with an updated and overhauled BF2142.
@joeyoung9596
@joeyoung9596 8 місяців тому
A lot of the Battlefield players are migrating to Renegade X. Which is a good thing, because Renegade X is about to have a big expansion called Firestorm, is gonna bring back the iconic Titan Mode from BF2142 but with a new spin on it.
@pali1H
@pali1H 8 місяців тому
They should have just re-released 2142 with it's Titan mode. Those were some of my favorite gaming memories.
@TheGamebreaker1234
@TheGamebreaker1234 8 місяців тому
No scoreboard, no server browser, no classes. overpowered transport vehicles, almost no weapons, 2 lmgs, no map destruction at all, empty and boring maps making it a running simulator. amazing how this franchise went down the drain hard after bf4
@highmessiah
@highmessiah 8 місяців тому
This game broke my heart mayn! From BF1942-BF1 to this proves nothing lasts forever 😢
@_Devil
@_Devil 8 місяців тому
The lack of a campaign really killed it imo. Without a story, I felt no attachment to the world I was playing in. With no attachment, I didn't care what happened. And when I didn't care, I got bored and got off the game. Dice's fatal flaw was catering to the people who played never played a BF game before 5 instead of listening to the veterans who have been around since the PS2 days.
@Dangerman-zg3ui
@Dangerman-zg3ui 8 місяців тому
Great video that sums up the absolute mess of development that is BF2042. 3+ years down the drain. Reason why chasing trends recently just ends in disaster because either you have to rush out a game that bombs Vs the established competitition or you're years out of date.
@stitch77100
@stitch77100 8 місяців тому
Very nicely put. Thanks (Plus, I loved Battlefield for what it was, and because they didn't chase trends, they were their own thing that no one succeed to succesfully copy, until MAG, WWIII and some other lower budget with passion tried to. They came close but I'm not sure they really succeeded)
@riddell26
@riddell26 6 місяців тому
"Never before seen scale" MAG is calling your cap EA, with 256 players
@bradleykalinoski99427
@bradleykalinoski99427 8 місяців тому
One of this game's biggest mistakes was adding "specialists" instead of everyone just being regular soldiers. Not everything needs to be a fucking hero shooter. But EA thought there was money in a game killing feature because of skins no one bought.
@DaveVoyles
@DaveVoyles 8 місяців тому
Dice burned so much of the community with this one. It will take a lot to win us back.
@MaterialFuture
@MaterialFuture 8 місяців тому
Quite a few of the team from Dice that left went on to create Embark Studios, the studio making The Finals which while being a different genre at least brings back the impressive level of destruction with a competitive twist on it. BF 2042 still has quite a large player-base and good amount of updates coming each season and while I still think it's a fun game it still doesn't live up to any of the past BF games.
@fmrscout33
@fmrscout33 8 місяців тому
Their development model was 100% at it's absolute peak with BF Bad Company 2. BF3 is a close second. Games with that feel cease to exist today, and it's truly sad for those of us that experienced them, and became accustomed to that being the norm. BF4 was a WRECK at launch, and turned a lot of the older players off from the game due to the building physics not being destructible. Building destruction was paramount in those games. It's what made them distinct. I used to launch grenades into the ground to create a "foxhole" for cover in Bad Company 2... Every building that collapsed on it's foundation changed the dynamics of each match. BF1 almost recaptured it, but it wasn't the same (Just like BF4). The destruction in BF3 and Bad Company 2 is still unrivaled in the military FPS space. No, there wasn't "levelation" like in BF4, but EVERY building could be destroyed down to rubble in Bad Company 2, and most buildings could be significantly altered in BF3. When that happened, the battlefield changed as a whole. Places that used to be cover, were now danger areas, etc... THAT was what battlefield was. BFV, I never played, because I'm in my late 30s, and the vast majority of military shooters when I was younger, took place in WWII when I was in my teens and early 20s. It was either Halo, or a WWII game. I've had my fill of those for a lifetime. BF1 was cool for a while, but then again, shooting WWI era weapons (with a lot of copium upgrades that soldiers didn't actually have, gets stale fast). BF is a shell of the greatness it once captured. Thanks EA, you morons. Let developers do their thing, and just publish the IP and reap the rewards of being the publisher. Greed, greed greed. Hate the current landscape of Triple A titles because of this.
@ElitePortraits
@ElitePortraits 8 місяців тому
The tornados in BF2042 perfectly reflects of how Dice designed its own grave instead of a good game.
@HanDaimond
@HanDaimond 8 місяців тому
Thank god BattleBit Remastered exists. It speaks volumes when frustrated fans make their own BF and becomes more beloved.
@SINfromPL
@SINfromPL 8 місяців тому
I'd rather go for a walk than play Roblox graphics.
@HanDaimond
@HanDaimond 8 місяців тому
@@SINfromPL Go for a walk big boy, you'll need it.
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 8 місяців тому
EA and Dice: Spend billions of dollars. Fail in every aspect. Didn't accomplish much better after a year. 3 random indie devs: FINE! We'll do it ourselves!
@andrewabrams1535
@andrewabrams1535 8 місяців тому
Battle Bit is garbage. 2042 is on the right track.
@Ryfael
@Ryfael 8 місяців тому
I'd rather play BF2042 than play Minecraft with guns. Speak for yourself, brohime.
@kitteecatt4681
@kitteecatt4681 8 місяців тому
as a genuine balltefield fangirl since bf3... dice and EA dropped one of the most promising bags after bf4 and bf1 (ww1) . 2042 made my heart sink like an anchor first time playing on launch day, i feel no different now
@p4nnus
@p4nnus 8 місяців тому
Never buy games on launch day. Let the reviews come out from trusted sources and then make an informed purchase. Pre-ordering and buying on launch day without first looking is what makes it possible for companies to release complete trash games like this POS. This game in particular is one that couldnt justify a day one purchase: The beta showed everyone how bad the games state was and not only in the sense that it was unfinished - also in what it tried to do at its core. It was obvious that this wasnt a true BF game but a failed attempt at pleasing some hero shooter audience, there was a shit ton of discussion about it everywhere even before launch.
@Lrules364
@Lrules364 8 місяців тому
I paid $15 for my copy, and felt ripped off within the first 5 hours. Everything about this game sucks. I bought battlebit instead and that's what I play when I want an FPS.
@kitteecatt4681
@kitteecatt4681 8 місяців тому
@@p4nnus well i mean buying on launch day or not didn’t change my opinion of the game. i don’t read reviews because enjoyment of games is personal, so i just play them. i never refunded cause i hoped they would salvage it, they won’t, so sure i wasted my money but oh well, i’m more mad about the lost opportunities and wasted ip
@allahdoesnotexist3823
@allahdoesnotexist3823 8 місяців тому
So proud of your transition 🌈
@jonpro9637
@jonpro9637 8 місяців тому
​@@allahdoesnotexist3823lmao
@aimalkhan5028
@aimalkhan5028 8 місяців тому
I remember when cod vanguard, halo infinite, and bf 2042 were announced people were saying the good days of gaming were back
@Jaxymann
@Jaxymann 8 місяців тому
Dice getting rid of the Class system that was integral to how previous Battlefield titles worked was bad enough, but the fact they replaced them with 'specialists' purely out of wanting to copy Battle Royale when there are ALREADY iconic, individual characters in the Bad Company series that has been left abandoned for almost 15 years is almost criminal.
@AddNameLater
@AddNameLater 8 місяців тому
I’ve been waiting for this dumpster fire to be covered by you 🔥🔥 🎉🎉
@GraphicJ
@GraphicJ 8 місяців тому
Another great, informative video... just 2 years late. But yes, DICE/EA have significantly destroyed the BF series and mostly to their arrogance. Not giving the playerbase what they have been asking for years.
@GameBacardi
@GameBacardi 8 місяців тому
I assume it need some delay before you can confirm "The Tragic Downfall of"
@derrekmcfarlane7872
@derrekmcfarlane7872 8 місяців тому
I think what he means is that as of late, bf has been making strides to get better
@GraphicJ
@GraphicJ 8 місяців тому
@@derrekmcfarlane7872 No didn't mean that. EA has HAD that tragedy of Battlefield" title for years now. Remember BFV?... no disrespect to you but as far as 2042 'making strides to get better' , well.. polishing a turd is still a turd.
@gabrielledebourg2487
@gabrielledebourg2487 8 місяців тому
It's ironic that Zampella is taking over the helm of Battlefield, having co-founded Infinity Ward after they left EA for Activision to produce Call of Duty as the dubbed "Medal of Honor-killer", and now he's in charge of the "Call of Duty-killer" at EA.
@BlahBohogun
@BlahBohogun 8 місяців тому
I love how the overwhelming toxic response from 2042's sub reddit has that image of a well drawn horse into a 1st graders drawing of same horse.
@halflife3181
@halflife3181 8 місяців тому
Thank you so much for publishing this so soon. I figured it would have been a decade before GVMERS would have covered this. I'm a diehard BF4 player and I really wish 2042 would have carried on that a lot better than it did. Thank you again GVMERS for all your work. Keep it up 🍋
@RaitKook
@RaitKook 8 місяців тому
I have played them all and still love BF Bad Company 2.
@S.D1010
@S.D1010 8 місяців тому
Worst 60 dollars spent ever... 3 hours and never again
@MrMultiB
@MrMultiB 8 місяців тому
Battlefield 2042 was the best advertisement for Battlebit Remastered
@vgamedude12
@vgamedude12 8 місяців тому
"Toxic community" Gaslighting community for calling this stinker what it is. This video treated this trash game with kids gloves.
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 8 місяців тому
Another great video, thanks guys. It's really amazing how much they got this franchise wrong. And look at that face at 8:51, you won't convince me he's not the devil himself.
@austingodwin322
@austingodwin322 6 місяців тому
Can anyone tell me the name of the background theme during the intro? Westie used it for his BF4 Mare’s Leg video, and I can’t find it. Please, and thank you.
@GMoneyChuck89
@GMoneyChuck89 7 місяців тому
I've always wondered how you guys managed to hire the Narrator from Discovery's How It's Made.
@SnakiestFrame
@SnakiestFrame 8 місяців тому
lets be honest its not that tragic. this is the new norm in gaming. Love the vids btw
@tearex8688
@tearex8688 8 місяців тому
It is tragic. For all of gaming.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 8 місяців тому
Nothing tragic about someone insisting to perform suicide pulling the trigger, deapite of all the warnings from everybody else. We told DICE that 2042 will be bad from day one, but they refused to listen. Seeing them crash and burn is not tragic at all.
@ddm_gamer
@ddm_gamer 8 місяців тому
​@@ninochaosdrache3189 Tf was that macabre comparison
@Pilot-X
@Pilot-X 8 місяців тому
You know a series/game is dead when the reaper @GVMERS does a documentary on it. All of this started with BF-5.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 8 місяців тому
0:50 We cast our gaze to the next major outing because Battlefield V was killed early :(
@ryanhawksley1779
@ryanhawksley1779 8 місяців тому
I play this game on daily basis and do give credit to the DEVs for improving the game on so many levels. But, I'll never forget the amount of disappointment I felt on release. One of the most painful moments as a loyal Battlefield fan. 😢
@Jaycy845
@Jaycy845 8 місяців тому
Same! Me and all my friends are on it all the time. I hope it makes a comeback
@ryanhawksley1779
@ryanhawksley1779 8 місяців тому
@@Jaycy845 do you remember launch day at midnight. All the lads ready with you and go on expecting pure EPIC gameplay.... God that was an awful experience.
@blackheart909
@blackheart909 8 місяців тому
Can’t wait for you to do a video on your sponsor, wanted dead. It’s a terrible game 😂
@brendanroberts1310
@brendanroberts1310 8 місяців тому
Interesting have you played it have seen mixed reviews for it.
@blackheart909
@blackheart909 8 місяців тому
I played a little, it got repetitive after a few hours. @@brendanroberts1310
@johnnybravo9096
@johnnybravo9096 8 місяців тому
Knowing the current world, that is probably down to who they are sponsoring or not
@ethanbradberry5224
@ethanbradberry5224 8 місяців тому
I would have thought battlefield 2042s crash and burn was funny, if not for the fact that it took bf2 and bf5 with it. Both of which were speadily getting better, especially bf2.
@stitch77100
@stitch77100 8 місяців тому
Your subtitle shoud have been " the tragedy THAT IS bf 2042", way more fitting in my opinion ;)
@AnimalStomper
@AnimalStomper 8 місяців тому
Surprises me that people still buy these anti consumer cancer games.
@LordLOC
@LordLOC 8 місяців тому
The biggest thing for me is, they named this specifically to invoke Battlefield 2142 which DICE knew people are clamoring for a sequel for all these years later. A rough launch, sure. But we had just as horrible of a launch with BF4 and that turned into one of the best games in the series once they polished it up. The specialist's stuff, yeah DICE didn't listen to fan feedback on that one for sure. The scoreboard thing, not sure what they were thinking. But since the rumors going around were that BF 2042 was basically a full blown live service battle royale before they changed their minds on it - makes sense with a lot of the map designs and the specialists etc.
@krishutch3d
@krishutch3d 8 місяців тому
I not sure those maps were designed at all. I think they just threw a bunch of assets at a randomly generated height map
@ZomgZomg007
@ZomgZomg007 8 місяців тому
Surely by now we are surprised by ea and dice right? The prior game gets good towards the end, then tossed to a side for a new game with all the bugs of prior game that was fixed....rinse repeat.
@NotLaSimia
@NotLaSimia 8 місяців тому
Day 1 to asking the downfall of GTA Online.
@novik203
@novik203 8 місяців тому
Do not refer to fans and communities as toxic. Fucking insane to refer to customers like that. C'mon GVMERS. You're better than that.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 8 місяців тому
DICE needs to be a leader, now follow trends. Nobody did what Battlefield did when they started out. Things.went downhill when they tried to be COD
@frostbite3820
@frostbite3820 8 місяців тому
What they need to do (but wont) is combine all the staple features from battlefield 4 to 2042 into the next game. Imagine a battlefield with BF4's destruction and levolution, battlefield 1's behemoths, battlefield 5's building your own cover, and 2042's 124 player count and weather dinamics. And going back to the classic class system with no specialists. Now THAT would be a battlefield game
@WildManActual
@WildManActual 8 місяців тому
BF 1 was a god tier game.
@theunhingedgamer3762
@theunhingedgamer3762 8 місяців тому
you call it god tier even though the game literally flopped at launch and had literally next to no players playing it lol do some research before overrating a game next time bud
@Ghost_Of_SAS
@Ghost_Of_SAS 8 місяців тому
2042 is actually pretty good now: it's the closest the series has been to replicating Bad Company 2 in over a decade. Problem is, the game seems dead: I had about a month where I could easily get into a game (around the time when they put it on playstation plus) and then nothing. Minutes at the matchmaking screen and can't join any lobby. This is what happens when your launch is terrible: you may never recover no matter how much you work at it.
@break-neck758
@break-neck758 8 місяців тому
That is true, same bro) but now it seems a decent game
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 8 місяців тому
I like how in the game advert, stabbing someome with a sword is censored yet blasting someone in the face with gun is totally fine 😂
@ari-dynamicarchive
@ari-dynamicarchive 8 місяців тому
i got a chuckle at Wanted: Dead's description as being a "game that exists" - perfectly sums up most youtube ad rolls-- coughRaidShadowLegendscough
@simoncross40K
@simoncross40K 8 місяців тому
worst BF ever. shame. BF1 ww1 was the best imo
@edgein3106
@edgein3106 8 місяців тому
Totally agree coming off Hardline haha
@jesusisunstoppable4438
@jesusisunstoppable4438 8 місяців тому
Blah blah Battlefield 1942 was the best 👌
@apotheases
@apotheases 8 місяців тому
"Have you ever heard the Tragedy of Battlefield 2042? No? I thought not, its not a story that DICE would tell you."
@Menroth.
@Menroth. 8 місяців тому
People expecting quality from anything EA touches is generally sad.
@SmokeyBCN
@SmokeyBCN 8 місяців тому
"never before seen scale" I guess EA marketers never played Planetside
@mickael486
@mickael486 8 місяців тому
So does anyone know where all the DICE talent ended up going? ReSpawn?
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 8 місяців тому
The worst part about this game is that they ended support for Battlefront II right in the middle of its revival in order to make it.
@whowantsmypants8888
@whowantsmypants8888 8 місяців тому
My brain may broken but is there a metal pipe sound at 0:30 seconds?
@HeadHunter697
@HeadHunter697 8 місяців тому
The community talks about 2042 in the same tone the scream canister teacher talks in Monsters University "A waste of a monsters potential..."
@leinadreign3510
@leinadreign3510 8 місяців тому
If the most devs leave, the long-time employed ones, you can always count on massive downfalls.
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