And on PC too... It was the big "Productivity Suite" coming with Amstrad PC 1512, which made it very popular in Europe. SunOS is *not* a graphical environment, it's a pure Unix system, with a lot of BSD in it. The original graphical interface coming with SunOS on their pricey X terminals was called OpenLook (or OpenWindow), and from SunOS 5, you could use another window manager called "CDE" featuring "Motif". Motif was the paradigm also used on the Commodore 64 in GEOS, ported later on PC as PCGEOS and bundled with Commodore PCs for a short time.

@@RegisMichelLeclerc GEM was at its time an especially on the ST range of computers quite a force to be reckoned with. Especially in hires mode it had quite a bunch of reasonable killer pass like Calamus SL, Notator, ProLogic, Cubase, Signum ... Later versions of GEM/TOS featured also Multitasking, SVGA-res, there were even compatible Clones/forks like MagiC, Neo desk etc.

@@dannyhilarious I know! I remember the time when GEM was competing with Windows 1.0 (and even 2.0) on EGA displays, but that was before the era of the SoundBlaster, and it was mostly productivity tools (word processor, spreadsheet, "Superbase" database and a "Draft" CAD solution). It was pretty successful, at the time. I even wrote a text-mode lookalike in 6502 assembler on Oric Atmos to do file operations on floppies mimicking the TOS, with animated windows, etc... It never left my home, though,

Yep. GEM was the first I came across. Used it on an old 286 PC doing an Open University course! Came on 5.25" floppys!

*Amiga OS (all of these above elements together) had something that only one other OS, Unix, had at the time: true preemptive multitasking* no, there were other OSes which had preemptive multitasking in that time, some even true preemptive multitasking that Amiga never had. Im talking about MP/M-86 and Concurrent CP/M-86, ConcurrentDOS later known as DR.DOS, GNU, QDOS on Sinclair QL, MAGIC and MiNT on ATARI ST line, to name some. Amiga DOS has no memory protection so it is not a true preemptive multitasking.

Well IBM PC users could install QNX to get that very early on, with the bonus of having a UNIX like setup. Also we had XENIX and a lot of other systems.

@@madigorfkgoogle9349 Memory protection have nothing to do with preemptive multitasking. Yes, I'm saying Linus Torvalds can be totally wrong.

@@megol0 you are totally wrong and Guru who meditates is my witness. Amiga DOS is pseudo preemptive multitasking. The memory protection is a must so the programs cannot rewrite other programs memory addresses. Also if some program crashes only its task is frozen and has to be terminated or reset, all other tasks are still running, this is not how Amiga DOS works. The multitasking on Amiga works only if the programs are following the guidelines (end even then often not), in real preemptive multitasking system any program can be tasked by task manager.

@@megol0 *Well IBM PC users could install QNX to get that very early on* yes I still have the QNiX floppy somewhere. But I remember QNX being a thing of mid to late 90s. OS+GUI+web browser all booted from a single floppy... Edit: XENIX is UNIX, so in case of XENIX the OP is spot on.

Was deskmate shipped with DOS? No. Only GUIs bundled with OS are mentioned here.

​​@@djopensourceDeskMate was shipped with the Tandy 1000 and GEOS was shipped with the Commodore Plus/4 and 128. You have to be aware that not all machines were DOS machines

@@djopensource you answered my request that the GEM for DOS was just a addon, and here you say you used only GUIs that came bundled with OS, which GEM for DOS was, GEM cannot run without DOS on PC.

@@madigorfkgoogle9349 Correct, Gem was not a standalone, it required dos, and that is why I didn't include it.

I came here expecting GEOS. So sad....

I think Geos on the c64 required PRODOS?, that is why I didn't include it. But thank you.

@@djopensource No it did not require anything additional.

No, this didn't have a GUI attached. Only OSes with GUIs are mentioned. Thanks.

@@djopensourceit did have a gui. It was called Multi-Vue. It was created by microware the same company that made os-9.

@imalebowski I was yelling at my phone just as I saw your comment; "That not SunOS! That's CDE on Solaris from like the mid-90s...!"

I am fascinated by the Xeror Star.... Write us some more things about your experience.

@@djopensource There were two versions one with a 10MB Haed disk and the other with a huge (for the time) 29MB hard disk, and they used the fragile 8" floppies.There was sa scripting language called Cusp that you could use to make 'buttons' embedded in a document do various actions. like opening a related document or eyou could even write a script that deleted all the non password prorected files on the machine (or even all machines on the network) Don't try this at work!. The tower case did get warm and vibrate slightly, I once left a cup of milk on one overnight and it was yogurt by morning.

@@daviddunmore7076 If you ever visit Athens I would like an interview and make a video about this machine.

@@djopensource I'm not planning to visit Athens this year, but probably will next rear in the spring. Meantime we could maybe do something over Facebook Messenger video chat or zoom.

I messed up. Classic.

How did I miss the atari st!? Poor work :(

@@djopensource Nah still good man - thank you for putting it together.

@@djopensource you missed a lot of systems, like GEM, GEM for DOS, Win1, Win2, GEOS, the AT&T UNIX PC GUI, VisiON, Sharp SX-Window, to name a few just from 80s...

@@madigorfkgoogle9349 No those were all addons, not operating systems with GUIs attached.

@@djopensource GEM on ST was in the ROM no addon at all, GEOS is not addon. All those UNIX GUI systems you presented (IRIS, Solaris) were addons then as well, as was the Linux GUI. Amiga Workbench not an addon, MSX View, Apple II desktop not an addon, really? Dont see any logic behind your statement.

PS, I did comparison of mid 80s 16-bit machines titled: Mac vs Amiga vs Atari vs QL. (Nov 2022).

Wow!!! PERQ and Oberon seem awesome and I will include them if I make another video! Thanks! VisiON is a GUI for DOS, not a standalone, therefor not included purposely.

In outer space?

And yet you felt compelled to leave a comment.

@Jeordie. Funny I was thinking the same about your comment. 😂