Electric car chargers aren't chargers at all - EVSE Explained

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Technology Connections

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THERE HAS BEEN SOME NEWS - There's a pinned comment you might want to read. But there's some links down here, too.
Firstly and of supreme importance, the video on the Bolt's Bits from Weber Auto - Prof. John Kelly is amazing and you really ought to give that channel a look if you're interested at all in hybrid and EV tech;
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@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 9 місяців тому
THERE HAS BEEN SOME NEWS. Tesla won the plug war. I made a video which you can watch. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/knqAmq-Eenury4U.html Most of the info in this video remains correct (the technology is pretty basic, after all), but a different plug will almost certainly be on the end of the cable in the future.
@maxnatamo
@maxnatamo 8 місяців тому
Props for going back and giving an update!
@wongcw08
@wongcw08 5 місяців тому
Only for the US 😅 As always. We have 3 phase power supply.
@jeremygeorgia4943
@jeremygeorgia4943 3 роки тому
"A contactor is simply an electromagnetic switch." Oh relay?
@MajorOutage
@MajorOutage 3 роки тому
lol, did the same thing after he explained what the "contactor" was. A relay by any other name...
@300DBenz
@300DBenz 3 роки тому
Bravo, excellent wordplay!
@BoopBobBeep
@BoopBobBeep 3 роки тому
Watt are you saying?!
@ratdude747
@ratdude747 3 роки тому
@@tripplefives1402 Also, typically contactors are force-guided (all contacts on a single actuator ensuring all move at the same time, not a matchbook-like set of disconencted contact arms), making them doubly useful as elements in safety circuits (which usually stipulate all relays to be force guided). Depending on the load and timing requirements (mainly an issue with safety circuits), contactors can be troublesome (burnt contacts). In this case, since current isn't usually being shut on or off by the contactor itself, likely the amount of contact wear is minimal.
@hedgeearthridge6807
@hedgeearthridge6807 3 роки тому
That is SO-lenoid cool!
@MrPiki-xm1zo
@MrPiki-xm1zo 3 роки тому
I'm waiting for USB-C charging electric cars.
@Vyckaxxx
@Vyckaxxx 3 роки тому
it will happen once super-conductors go mainstream.
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 3 роки тому
@@Vyckaxxx unless you have an apple car. Then you'll need a lightning connector
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 3 роки тому
You could do this with e bikes because they use so little power . But the charger needs to be usb c pd charger. You would get about 5km of range per hour . (You need usb c pd sink and possibly cc cv boost converter)
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 3 роки тому
Well you could do it without usb c pd but i think it would be too slow that way
@RowdyElectron
@RowdyElectron 3 роки тому
TheChipmunk2008 and the apple car doesn't include the charger
@definitelynotobama6851
@definitelynotobama6851 2 роки тому
How on earth does this man consistently make 40 minute videos that I am perfectly willing to watch through completely?
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 2 роки тому
Coz he's good.
@coolest10293
@coolest10293 Рік тому
Because it’s funny
@brandoncodespython778
@brandoncodespython778 Рік тому
-Ikr
@ZA-mb5di
@ZA-mb5di Рік тому
Yes
@acidspit14
@acidspit14 Рік тому
Cause his videos are quality from A to Z.
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 2 роки тому
"This is not a drill" shirt hitting the nail on the head...
@ttd972
@ttd972 3 роки тому
"Let's not get any more pedantic than this video is already guaranteed to be" - that's why I love this channel
@3nertia
@3nertia 3 роки тому
++
@mr.pavone9719
@mr.pavone9719 3 роки тому
I bet more people would go into technician jobs if more people like him taught the classes.
@lucasatilano8008
@lucasatilano8008 3 роки тому
Spot on, this guy is pedantic af but he has good explanations
@sirstriped5233
@sirstriped5233 2 роки тому
By the same logic of the charger. Doesn't that make even phone chargers not really chargers? All they do is connect us to the electric grid. 3 second after typing this... He talked about phone chargers...
@nickharrison3748
@nickharrison3748 2 роки тому
wow..I read your comment as he spoke this sentence
@Roxasedge
@Roxasedge 3 роки тому
"Integrity of the protected earth" is the most mystical sounding thing I've ever heard you say
@Ironic1950
@Ironic1950 3 роки тому
Protective earth actually...
@Bacopa68
@Bacopa68 3 роки тому
Sounds like something an interplanetary General Ripper would say.
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 3 роки тому
Yep, that one took me a second listen to realize what he was talking about.
@failstreet99
@failstreet99 3 роки тому
It's a good album name
@h2oaddict28
@h2oaddict28 3 роки тому
@@Ironic1950 Isn't l1 phase 1, l2 phase 2, and pe earth+neutral? I don't live in the US...
@bwizz1319
@bwizz1319 2 роки тому
As an embedded software engineer in the automotive space who works for an EV company, this was a pretty good explanation. Well done!
@MIchaelArlowe
@MIchaelArlowe 2 роки тому
Ngl that sounds like an amazing job.
@nextlifeonearth
@nextlifeonearth 2 роки тому
@@MIchaelArlowe Can confirm it's not always that great, but it has its moments. Explaining to people that it's a lot more complex than they'd expect is the hardest part of the job.
@michaelstarkey9745
@michaelstarkey9745 Рік тому
Ty 4ur comment
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 2 роки тому
As an EE with over 30 yrs experience and 2nd Tesla owner, I must commend you on an outstanding explanation of EVSEs. So good that I was compelled to subscribe. I think some of the vendors make their unit big to justify a high price. The same technology is in mobile chargers which are considerably smaller.
@psikogeek
@psikogeek 10 місяців тому
With an EE degree and experience in test engineering, this video made me appreciate EVSEs as safety devices not switches. Yes, I'm abnormal.
@katiemorison7969
@katiemorison7969 Місяць тому
Congrats on being a mobile network
@mx0r
@mx0r 3 роки тому
“Not a lot really!”... looks at timestamp: 27 minutes. This gonna be juicy!
@z50king29
@z50king29 3 роки тому
Yeah, that's a long video for not much inside the case
@3possumsinatrenchcoat
@3possumsinatrenchcoat 3 роки тому
"but let's not get any more pedantic than this video is already guaranteed to be!" *checks timestamp* 0:30/27:19 :")
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 3 роки тому
Oh shit didn't even realized I'd been watching for so long!
@maskettaman1488
@maskettaman1488 3 роки тому
4 minutes of content, 23 minutes of off-base complaining . Not as juicy as you'd expect
@filminginportland1654
@filminginportland1654 3 роки тому
z50king29 Yes but we all watch anyway, don’t we?
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 роки тому
I propose the charging standard be called HDCC: Handy Dandy Car Charger
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets 3 роки тому
SelectaCharge
@WorBlux
@WorBlux 3 роки тому
Autocharging beyond belief!
@t_c5266
@t_c5266 3 роки тому
is that like america's new "super duper missile" ??
@guiorgy
@guiorgy 3 роки тому
ChargoVision
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 3 роки тому
can't wait for Dodge's Charger
@georgecullen759
@georgecullen759 2 роки тому
I flunked out of the Navy Basic Electricity course waaay back in the late 70's. You make the topic understandable. I could not repeat much of it but I get most of the topics.
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 роки тому
Not on 3 phase? why not, simple questions for simple Army people!
@devinholland2189
@devinholland2189 3 роки тому
The standard is also being added to golf carts, they use lead acid batteries so may require ventilation.
@nslouka90
@nslouka90 3 роки тому
They’re always outside so it shouldn’t be an issue
@kaine2416
@kaine2416 3 роки тому
@@nslouka90 As a former maintenance engineer for many hotels and multifamily housing, I can tell you that 100% of golf carts, in those industries at least, are stored and charged in either an attached or detached garage.
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 3 роки тому
@@kaine2416 Indeed. Or in tiny unventilated tin sheds :\ or is that just in the UK lol
@ToastGamingNCrew
@ToastGamingNCrew 2 роки тому
Lots of things use lead acid batteries, lots of things aren't technically "well ventilated" but hey, what's safety when the chance of it going off is so small that it'd be more expensive to build a ventilated room or structure to accomadate it
@nslouka90
@nslouka90 2 роки тому
I don’t even remember this comment but the state I live in had a law passed a few years ago, some cities didn’t allow large batteries to be stored inside because they couldn’t get ventilation, a notable fire broke out inside a house full of batteries and when the fire department went inside to extinguish the fire the batteries exploded.
@Legolas1717
@Legolas1717 3 роки тому
"I'm designed for 10,000 insertion and removal events" is a solid pickup line.
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ 3 роки тому
That's a very incelish comment.
@zeroeffortmemes
@zeroeffortmemes 3 роки тому
😏
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 3 роки тому
That's really low rating for a human, would be pretty off putting as pickup line
@Tahngarthor
@Tahngarthor 3 роки тому
10,000 plug/unplug events seems really low. I mean, the keys on my keyboard are all rated for far more press/unpress events than that, so it seems like a clearly more heavy-duty plastic and solid metal pin contraption ought to be able to withstand more than that.
@Boss_Tanaka
@Boss_Tanaka 3 роки тому
Tahngarthor assuming you plug and unplug once a day, the connector would last at least 27 years. So 10000 plug/unplug events may be low but it s more than enough for normal use.
@mandisaplaylist
@mandisaplaylist 2 роки тому
12:40 Exactly. Specifically, this is used in industrial settings where lead-acid battery powered equipment is pretty common (because in industrial settings user convenience is not that important than in electric vehicles). I believe this is an effort to standardize electric vehicle charging across these very diverse applications. Additionally in these industrial applications there may be other types of batteries who need to do wacky things when being charged. Like some batteries that need to shed quite a bit of heat and stuff like that.
@AstoundingAmelia
@AstoundingAmelia Рік тому
Yeah, also for things like electric drag cars the battery may be li-po and may require ventilation for safety just in case any forbidden pillows occor
@aarons7975
@aarons7975 Рік тому
Lead acid needs ventilation. THIS is exactly why this feature is there, so the charger truly IS universal, it handles all the technologies, and still offers the safety. BTW Lead Acid is NOT going away in industry either. Fork trucks MUST have that heavy weight on them as counterbalance so they can pick up what they do without tipping over. IF taken care of properly LA batteries will last for many YEARS, so warehouses are not going to dump the extra bucks into lithium and THEN have to dump even more dollars for a counterweight to use their equipment when they can just get the cheap LA battery and be done with a tried and proven tech.
@PedroHernandez-sm8lg
@PedroHernandez-sm8lg 2 роки тому
I'm a power grid operator. The trend right now is that utilities are closing down their big workhorse coal fired generators. At the same time there's a wave of new EV's coming down the chute, and everyone wants to go home and plug them in at the same time that the evening peak hits the grid. To me, this is scary! If we keep going at the rate we are, I promise there's going to be routine rolling blackouts at evening peak in just a few years. You are spot on to say that EV's need to be grid interactive! If I could have control of when EV's are charged and I could simply hit a button to charge everyone's EV's after evening peak, this would make a tremendous difference to the evening peak. And having the ability to pull Megawatts from EV's is my personal pipe dream. Grid scale batteries are simply an idea that hasn't been invented yet. But having access to thousands of EV batteries on the system, even for as little as 15 minutes would be a really big deal. Great video! I appreciate that you actually explained the technical details of how this works. Surprisingly, this is hard to come by!
@appleintosh
@appleintosh Рік тому
Is there no time of use rates where you are? I get the cheapest electricity between midnight and 6am, so I have my car set up to only charge during those hours. I wouldn’t ever try and charge my car at 7pm when I get home from work because that’s when electricity is most expensive for me
@iamlenb
@iamlenb Рік тому
How much would electrical companies be willing to pay for that storage and access?
@Me-zo8yc
@Me-zo8yc Рік тому
Batteries have finite charge/discharge cycles.
@nemoexnuqual3643
@nemoexnuqual3643 Рік тому
@@appleintosh not where I am. Most of the country is on small utility company systems that have a graduated rate based on usage. The cost would be similar to running a heater. Now in cold rural areas like mine EV’s are extremely impractical. When you have a 200 mile round trip to the nearest WalMart in an area where temperatures drop to less than -20 with snowfall measured in feet these EV’s are useless. Even in town the extreme cold causes problems with many electronics, especially chemical batteries.
@aarons7975
@aarons7975 Рік тому
People sadly are ignorant to how the while thing works. Been in the power industry 18 years and counting. IC / Operator / Maintainer. Maintainer-Complainer whatever you want to call it. You get places like california who can't even keep the lights on as it is, how are they going to handle their load doubling? The rest of the infrastructure is not designed to handle it either. LITERALLY all the transformers, lines going into communities, breakers, fuses, EVERYTHING needs to be beefed up to handle the draw. Folks are just totally clueless which is sad. Another big issue which everyone is doing a very good job of pretending don't exist is fuel. You are shutting down all the coal, yet there is NOT ENOUGH gas capacity, to run the gas plants as is let alone with more. It takes YEARS to bring one gas pipeline in, and that is if the tree huggers do NOT fight it, which they always do. A car that gets 100 GPM is worthless when all the gas stations are empty. Same with electric. A gas plant is worthless when we physically can NOT get enough gas to where the plants are at to run them. Even if today ALL the bs totally ENDED, and everyone said LETS DO THIS NOW. It'd take 15 years to get the infrastructure up to where it could even handle it, THEN get the plants built.
@Spartan_Jackal
@Spartan_Jackal 3 роки тому
"What are contactors? You'll find out *shortly*" You're getting ejected.
@KiRaShiKReaTiVe
@KiRaShiKReaTiVe 3 роки тому
Ohm my goodness, I see what he did there.
@floobertuber
@floobertuber 3 роки тому
No need to act shocked. I'm sure he can sense our resistance.
@Jason608
@Jason608 3 роки тому
@@floobertuber I'm not sure he can, currently.
@wouter_system2
@wouter_system2 3 роки тому
@@Jason608 Watt the heck are you all talking about?
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 3 роки тому
Could also be read as "what are contractors... you'll find out shortly" :-)
@ke6mt
@ke6mt 3 роки тому
Awesome video, as usual. A comment on the ventilation thing: I had a unit similar to this one in an aircraft hangar, used to charge the batteries on an electric tug. They were lead acid and, like you mentioned, required some ventilation while charging.
@Ironic1950
@Ironic1950 3 роки тому
Lead-acid batteries evolve hydrogen when overcharged, removing water from the dilute sulphuric acid electrolyte. Even maintenance-free sealed lead acid batteries have a rubber plug that allows the hydrogen gas to escape if the pressure gets too high. This is why ventilation is required...
@clahey
@clahey 3 роки тому
Because the accessory battery is in the passenger cabin in Priuses, there's a little tube to vent any generated gas.
@docferringer
@docferringer 3 роки тому
@@clahey Sounds like a good reason to quit smoking!
@alex8nasa
@alex8nasa 3 роки тому
Yeah, our forklifts require ventilation.
@bobjoe-bv2vc
@bobjoe-bv2vc 3 роки тому
I worked in a warehouse where they had hydrogen sensors over the charging bays. They would get set off occasionally even though they were 50ft above the floor.
@ImJustAFen
@ImJustAFen 2 роки тому
22:57 "I know that needs to be in conduit and yes, I'm getting to it." I feel you may want to have gotten to that part first lol
@thelement3363
@thelement3363 2 роки тому
It feels like i absorbed the information. Like it was delivered in a natural form. Thanks for the care you put into what you give.
@k29king1
@k29king1 3 роки тому
I love this channel because this guy has an intelligent sense of humor, and explains things in terms without making the viewer feel stupid while learning. And he’s a smart ass too, lol. The sheer amount of sarcasm he displays is entertaining in itself.
@WilliamMelton617
@WilliamMelton617 2 роки тому
YAAASSSS
@lStephen99
@lStephen99 2 роки тому
It does make me feel stupid watching the way that he teaches, it's not everybody's kind of learning unfortunately
@cristinsunshine1067
@cristinsunshine1067 2 роки тому
I didn't understand what he was saying so i felt /feel pretty stupid 😆
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 2 роки тому
@@lStephen99 it helps if you took notice in your science class at school.
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 2 роки тому
@@cristinsunshine1067 a sad indictment of your education system.
@ncandrew9159
@ncandrew9159 3 роки тому
Guess who works as a mapping specialist for an electric utility! 😏 (insert smug flashing lights here) So totally taking these ideas to our economic development director. Thanks as always Alec for the awesome job and insight!👍🏼
@loganvanderwier8866
@loganvanderwier8866 3 роки тому
Hey, I'm a first year engineering student. I have to do a report on some technical problem, and this is a really cool idea. Do you mind if I "interview" you once I have done a little preliminary research?
@ncandrew9159
@ncandrew9159 3 роки тому
Hey Logan, sure-I’d be happy to help you out if I can in some way; have you got an email address I can reach you at?
@loganvanderwier8866
@loganvanderwier8866 3 роки тому
@@ncandrew9159 Thanks man! Loganjvdw@gmail.com
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому
Good luck pushing the blue whale to the finishing line! (comment on the inertia of large organizations, not a fat joke.)
@MinecraftBPs
@MinecraftBPs 3 роки тому
@@MonkeyJedi99 They're startin to move thankfully (from a European standpoint). ISO15118 is a thing (or will be soon)
@edwardteach2625
@edwardteach2625 2 роки тому
Man, these videos are FANTASTIC! I appreciate your presentation style and the topics really draw me in! 👍
@philkarn5661
@philkarn5661 2 роки тому
You are absolutely 100% right that we need more accessible charging for renters and those in high density housing.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 9 місяців тому
My workplace refuses to install EV chargers, or even covered parking. They _will_ install acres of solar panels on the property to generate power for the factory, but will not utilize those panels for car shade nor provide one watt of that clean energy for EV charging-- this despite the fact we're researching both battery storage solutions and compact fusion reactors.
@WizardTim
@WizardTim 3 роки тому
‎Alec: “Those are basically just fancy light switches” Siemens: “That will be US$800” Me with a light switch and box of resistors: 🤔
@Mostlyharmless1985
@Mostlyharmless1985 3 роки тому
Tim, no.
@gui18bif
@gui18bif 3 роки тому
@@Mostlyharmless1985 YES
@KlueBat
@KlueBat 3 роки тому
Add a contactor in there and you might just be in business!
@SteveRowe
@SteveRowe 3 роки тому
You'll need a square wave generator of some sort also. Like @Technology Connections said, an Arduino, a contactor, and a middle-schooler. The 10 AWG wire is expensive, but it isn't $500. However, if it isn't UL certified in the US and your house burns down, your insurance will likely not pay.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 3 роки тому
Also the handle has switches so it knows when you're about to unplug it and stop the charge I tried to build one myself and the handle was $100 by itself so I decided to buy a refurbished Nissan leaf one that I could program what amps I wanted off of and still works years later
@uss_04
@uss_04 3 роки тому
“So why does my car charge slower at home using the included cable, than at work?” “Because you haven’t upgraded to level two yet. Don’t worry, it’s just a Phase”
@user-tm3fz7qx3s
@user-tm3fz7qx3s 3 роки тому
Just stop.
@lourias
@lourias 3 роки тому
LOL. I got that "phase" joke. A very electrifying joke!
@KieranMullen
@KieranMullen 3 роки тому
120v and 240v single phase there is also 3 phase 240 Used primarily in industrial facilities to provide power for three-phase motor loads, and in utility power distribution applications. Nominal service voltages of 240, 400, 480, 600, and higher are typical.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому
@@lourias I'm shocked at the reception given to US's pun.
@uss_04
@uss_04 3 роки тому
bllourias Some like it, some dont. I guess it’s Polarizing.
@airplanefood6121
@airplanefood6121 Рік тому
Hi, i working with utility company and the EV topic came. They told me that if every one in may area switch to EV cars they don't have enough power to charge the Car. This comment also include power line sag and that their large power grid would have to be upgraded. Please talk about this issue as their are less and less line men in their industry every day. I would like you to talk about this topic as the sun shines during the day, and wind typical does not blow as hard at night. I would also like you to recommend to your view that should they buy an EV they should consider buy a bike or see where the nearest bus route is as the utility provide said that they were installing smart meters, and that they would talk with the electrical box and they would turn off car charge during hot and cold days so people don't die. Great show.
@philmccole4309
@philmccole4309 2 роки тому
I am a retired power plant Chief Electrician/Control Technician, 45 years working with electrical equipment and controls. This is an excellent video!! Big help understanding new (to me) tech, simple as it is. Thanks!
@yagobueno2785
@yagobueno2785 3 роки тому
I really love how easy it is to understand everything that is being said because the diction is perfect for non-fluent English speakers. I can usually understand 80 ~ 85% directly and the rest by context. Subtitles help me a lot in new terms and at the end of the video there are those final comments, just wonderful. As simple Brazilian as I love this kind of dedication. Thank you!
@IronShocker77
@IronShocker77 3 роки тому
Another brazilian learning English with Technology Connections here! 😄👍 The content is always so interesting that i don't even notice time passing by. Lately I've been trying to read the subtitles before him to practice my pronunciation.
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 3 роки тому
I am a native English speaker, and I don't think that you can understand the rest by context. You would need to be an electricity expert.
@fanime1
@fanime1 3 роки тому
@@eugenetswong actually as an English speaker myself, I find the Tech Connections does an amazing job at explaining how technology works even though I'm not an electrician by any means. It also depends on how good your context skills are. I find that everyone has a different level. My father encouraged me to read all my life but got annoyed whenever I asked what a word meant and told me to get a dictionary. The dictionary we had was huge and it was annoying to constantly look up words I never heard of. So I just used context clues to figure out what the words meant. While we are taught about context clues at elementary school, not everyone practices the skill. My sister, for example, never got into reading and she has terrible context skills. So it's possible your context skills just aren't as strong as op's, but that doesn't invalidate op's experience.
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 3 роки тому
@@fanime1 It's possible, but are sure that you just aren't aware of how little/much you know? I mean how would you know what a collector or emitter is just by staring at a transitor while listening to somebody? If the person only ever said "over there", then would you be able to identify which of the parts is a collector/emitter? I think that you aren't trying to be insulting, so I won't take it as such. It is true that my skills could much worse than I anticipated. That being said, I taught English as a second language, and was trained to do it. I also learned French by studying Le Petite Robert 2007, and studying it in grade school, and watching movies, and listening to French nursery rhymes, and reading the Bible in French. I would describe my French skills to be at an intermediate level. I also speak a little Mandarin, and learned *about* [i.e.: not learned to speak] classical Hebrew & Greek. I promise you that I am not being sarcastic, and I am fully aware that fluent speakers of multiple languages can struggle to pick up cues...but I also believe that confident people might over estimate their comprehension. If I gave you a test on every single word in this video, then would you be able to give a full definition of every word? I accept that you can give me the gist of each definition, but proper definition? I'm genuinely curious.
@simonmustermann6845
@simonmustermann6845 3 роки тому
@@eugenetswong I think he means that he understands the rest of the words by context, even if he might not understand 100% acoustically. That does not mean one understands every technical detail, but that you understand everything you need to follow the video.
@nsayer
@nsayer 3 роки тому
“An Arduino, a contactor and a willing middle schooler.” I refer you to OpenEVSE, which is perhaps slightly more upscale than hiring a middle-schooler. 😁
@BSAElectronics2014
@BSAElectronics2014 3 роки тому
Hi Nick, it's Brad from BSA! Before he even finished his sentence I was thinking of the OpenEVSE control boards we use!
@AgentOffice
@AgentOffice 3 роки тому
Much of the cost is the cable, wouldn't save much making your own
@COPKALA
@COPKALA 3 роки тому
And you may wonder how may houses will burn down then.... Because the student has used radio-resitors or other "simple" man solution items.. or forgot to turn-off current before remove the cord....
@nsayer
@nsayer 3 роки тому
I take umbrage at the idea that it’s impossible for people to build things themselves that are just as safe as things built by professionals. Yes, it’s possible for DIYers to screw things up, but it’s just as possible for big companies to make and sell defective and dangerous products.
@BSAElectronics2014
@BSAElectronics2014 3 роки тому
@@nsayer I can attest to this, I own several items that are UL listed , sold by big name companies and purchased at common brick and motor retail stores, they were used as intended and burnt up into melted plastic. So much for the Garuntee of safety many think UL listings gaurentees them.
@S3t3sh
@S3t3sh 2 роки тому
Thank you for consistently providing me with content to teach my daughter... Tonight, I think she grasped PWM completely.
@johnwinters4201
@johnwinters4201 2 роки тому
Thank you - very informative. I had suspected that this was much how they worked but it's useful to have it confirmed. Your video also made me realise why North America *needs* a different plug standard for their EVs.
@michaelstarkey9745
@michaelstarkey9745 Рік тому
Commerce transportation
@jojoban2659
@jojoban2659 3 роки тому
New drinking game idea: Every time Alec says "It's basically just a fancy light switch" take a shot.
@thescooterbignuts
@thescooterbignuts 3 роки тому
I'm going to need a bigger cabinet
@harleyclawson7639
@harleyclawson7639 3 роки тому
But I'm drinking tequila...fuck it
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 3 роки тому
I'm drunk. Thanks Alec...
@aterack833
@aterack833 3 роки тому
“Require one 40 amp 240 volt circuit for garages in new building codes” homegamer welders everywhere will sign that petition
@josephjames259
@josephjames259 3 роки тому
Anyone can fill out the code change form for NEC code making panel and they will consider it. Or, as my old continuing education instructor used to say-even grandma can change the Code.
@MittyNuke1
@MittyNuke1 3 роки тому
I agree with the sentiment here, but I think making this code is a really bad idea. It's not very expensive or hard to add a 40 amp circuit even after a home is built, and making it a requirement just adds unnecessary rules and complexity since electrical and building codes are regulated at the local level for every town/county and city in the US. People who want a charger can opt to do the work themselves or hire an electrician to add the required circuit, just like with every other appliance or device in a home. The number and location of normal receptacles is a code issue because if there aren't enough and in the right places, people will use a mess of extension cords and power strips to plug everything in. With electric vehicle charging, just like an electric clothes dryer, you have no option but to run a new circuit (or share the dryer plug) so a similar code issue doesn't exist.
@josephjames259
@josephjames259 3 роки тому
@@MittyNuke1 Regulated at local level by AHJ, but electricians are working out of the NEC. I’ve worked out of the NEC for 20 years and the Code is revised every three years. Another requirement isn’t a big deal. It is A LOT easier to add something like this circuit during construction, more so than after the fact.
@stevesedio1656
@stevesedio1656 3 роки тому
@@MittyNuke1 I had two 40A, 240V outlets installed 15' from the power panel, $1000. Not really inexpensive after the fact, cheap to add during construction.
@phillijp
@phillijp 3 роки тому
Welding circuit is 50 amp but no reason it can't be added in a garage especially if nearly every circuit in your house now requires AFCI, GFI or sometimes both on the circuit. Those AFCIs are quite reasonably priced and don't inflate the cost of wiring a house by at least double or more. Remember folks electrical code does not always equal safe it just means more income for an electrician.
@matthewbartley2746
@matthewbartley2746 2 роки тому
By far one of the most on point, delightfully nerdy, and wholesome content channels ive found on UKposts. Sub, hardily earned good sir, in spades. 100/10 would recommend
@mikecif4123
@mikecif4123 Рік тому
Thank you for this video. Researching possibly buying my first EV and this was incredibly helpful. I do think EVs are probably going to become the standard in my lifetime, and I'm eager to learn what I can.
@Fightre_Flighte
@Fightre_Flighte 3 роки тому
"why is it so expensive?" *proceeds immediately to begin dying internally.*
@LeadSkillets
@LeadSkillets 3 роки тому
If you've seen the difference between contractor pricing and sales counter pricing for electrical components it makes perfect sense. The markups make dentists seem unprofitable.
@BurntFaceMan
@BurntFaceMan 3 роки тому
"Except for Telsa" reminds me sooo much of Apple. "every phone nowadays uses usb type-C... except for Apple"
@18magicMARKer
@18magicMARKer 3 роки тому
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COMPANIES MAKES SHITTY CHARGE CABLE? I'VE I HAD A FAKE LIGHTING CABLE THAT WAS OVERHEATING AND F UP MY BATTERY
@IcedForce
@IcedForce 3 роки тому
Tesla is car worlds Apple. Same kind of "standard" connectors (Lightning, Thunderbolt, FireWire before them and DisplayPort vs. Teslas charging port) which on the big letter anyone could use, except their license agreements have caveats or they are not as "open" as they claim (in Apples case they love saying the connector is free to use for everyone while the controlling chip isn't rendering the connector little more than a decoration and Tesla wants to get into your patent suitcase for free). Almost completely same kind of choke hold on repair, you cannot fix your Tesla or Apple device officially anywhere else than in certified repair and those are not as common as the companies let you believe and both at least have at some point refused to sell or asked extortion level prices for replacement parts from anyone outside their own repair program. Both try to make sure you don't buy second-hand their products, Apple by making sure if the previous owner doesn't know or forgets to reset the device, no one can reset it, and Tesla starting to sell features as licenses for original owners. And the sugar coating is that both have cults following them which are fanatically protecting them like they would break when they are criticized over their business models or the faults in their designs. Both fanatics groups also almost worship the CEOs or former CEOs of their company like messiahs.
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 3 роки тому
@@18magicMARKer yeah, nobody on Earth is capable of making a USB cable that doesn't suck. Same for USB hubs. USB is cursed. Just ask the zip file of haphazardly named Word documents that is its official spec.
@nanianmichaels
@nanianmichaels 3 роки тому
In Europe, these days ALL new EVs come with a Type 2 (a.k.a. Mennekes) connector for either low-power charging (I mean, some cars can pull up to 32A @220V from a Type 2 plug, so that's not exactly "slow", but oh well) or also for fast charging (Renaults only). That includes both Nissan and Tesla EVs. And when it comes to fast charging, it's either Type 2 (again, Renault only, their chargers are direct AC only) or CCS2, since even Nissan caved in and switched over to CCS2 on the newest vehicles. ChaDeMo is going the way of the dodo, and I'm assuming even Renault will switch over to CCS2 sooner rather than later, because fast charging on Type2 AC stops at 40Kw. So, we're looking at a unified connector standard in the EU. Luckily, I might add, at one point we even had CEE and Shucko plugs on public chargers...
@thetrashman5252
@thetrashman5252 3 роки тому
@@18magicMARKer A fake lightning cable? Please elaborate.
@jerrykazin6722
@jerrykazin6722 Рік тому
I am an EE and was a bit confused as to why the EV industry calls the connection to the cars a charger. After watching this video I understand my confusion. The connection to the car called the charger is really just a smart, safe cable and not a charger. The charger is built into the car. This video does a great job of explaining how this all works. Thanks.
@DunkRyan
@DunkRyan Рік тому
Been watching for years, and just by chance heard you talking about electric cars on NPR yesterday! Congrats!
@RedShift5
@RedShift5 3 роки тому
TC: this a fancy lightswitch Siemens engineers who worked hard on making this a safe and visually attractive device: crying cat thumbs up
@Lunageldia
@Lunageldia 3 роки тому
Always appreciate product design! Somebody worked really hard on that!
@dragonick2947
@dragonick2947 2 роки тому
It's a very stylish light switch, at least.
@davorinzuerich
@davorinzuerich 2 роки тому
Look at the Easee Home, if you want to talk about visually attractive charge points. Siemens designwise, really did a terrible job in my eyes.
@flyingyakdeath
@flyingyakdeath 2 роки тому
@@Lunageldia working hard on something does not make it a good design
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 2 роки тому
@@davorinzuerich beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
@josephgaviota
@josephgaviota 3 роки тому
I love the "This is Not a Drill" T-shirt.
@RGressick
@RGressick 3 роки тому
wish i could "HEART" this reply, i loved the shirt too.
@TheAlanSaunders
@TheAlanSaunders 3 роки тому
There was an advertisement for a (Black & Decker?) Dremel-like multitool that said " We drill, saw, rout, engrave ... followed by a crossed out image of a hammer hitting a nail.
@MrOnemanop
@MrOnemanop 3 роки тому
Best part of the video.
@DehnusNorder
@DehnusNorder 3 роки тому
But it is not a hammer either ;)! :P
@kibbo86
@kibbo86 3 роки тому
@@DehnusNorder Thanks Magritte
@seanmax2854
@seanmax2854 2 роки тому
at 5:25 - "This is the onboard charger. It's kind of hard to see in situ, but through the magic of buying two of them, I have a completely disassembled one right here!"
@alphaomega5721
@alphaomega5721 10 місяців тому
This is not a drill. Hammering the point home. Well done.
@snazzy
@snazzy 3 роки тому
Only 1 minute in, but commenting in advance to say, “hello, from Twitter.”
@theshadowman1398
@theshadowman1398 3 роки тому
Tesla blows. Being in a choke hold of Musk is stupid
@Derpuwolf
@Derpuwolf 3 роки тому
The Shadow Man could you elaborate?
@theshadowman1398
@theshadowman1398 3 роки тому
@@Derpuwolf Repairs only allowed by Tesla centres, car is constantly connected to Tesla and Tesla constantly follows it, Tesla can turn off features without your consent.
@10713412
@10713412 3 роки тому
@@Derpuwolf all model 3s have seat heaters, you need to pay to "unlock" depending on "trim"
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 3 роки тому
@@10713412 that's most cars these days you buy new. A lot of the stuff works that way. And it makes sense. Tesla still gives you the best value of any electric car by leaps and bounds and it's not even a competition. And any price point you go with.
@PJSproductions97
@PJSproductions97 3 роки тому
I work at a company that makes Led light guides, and let me tell you, we do a LOT of business making glowy things for electric cars and their accessories.
@tsbrownie
@tsbrownie Рік тому
Question: How does the wall unit know how much power it's allowed to pull? Is it set by the installer or is it intelligent and figures it out (how)???
@MultiMightyQuinn
@MultiMightyQuinn 2 роки тому
Thanks for the interesting video. Enjoyable and informative as usual, I really enjoy your style.
@rhettorical
@rhettorical 3 роки тому
"Holding onto a proprietary connector doesn't move things forward" We had the same problem with phone connectors until USB was made the standard.
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 3 роки тому
Except by Te... I mean Apple xD
@band_tsiferki
@band_tsiferki 3 роки тому
Well, except Iphones.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 3 роки тому
Nokia's charging pin was the perfect solution: Small (smaller even than the smallest USB connector), standard (most universal chargers come with that pin), and no way to plug it in the wrong way (circular symmetry FTW). Until the data port was used for charging, because of course it can do that, too. And with that come all the head-aches of data connectors, just to charge your phone which probably doesn't even do any wired data communication anyway because it is all wireless these days.
@FreeOfFantasy
@FreeOfFantasy 3 роки тому
@@band_tsiferki While Apple on the phone side does their own thing, on the other side it's USB, probably mainly due to EU charger regulation.
@SD-tj5dh
@SD-tj5dh 3 роки тому
Anyone remember the awful sony Ericsson charger leads? They used to foul up all the time.
@firenado4295
@firenado4295 3 роки тому
"imagen a 400 volt light bulb" i dont have to there are enough bmw drivers around
@sugoruyo
@sugoruyo 3 роки тому
It was for a turn signal, you're safe, BMW drivers don't use turn signals...
@skyraider87
@skyraider87 3 роки тому
Or brakes, so no blinding by that.
@franklydoodle350
@franklydoodle350 3 роки тому
I just had a 400-volt light bulb idea - we should rename BMW to GME
@oldtechnobodycaresabout
@oldtechnobodycaresabout 3 роки тому
Is Imagen a brand of 400v bulb or do you mean imagine?
@firenado4295
@firenado4295 3 роки тому
@@oldtechnobodycaresabout its just a typo you know what I mean
@AndrewRGross
@AndrewRGross 2 роки тому
Wow. I've just started watching this channel, and this video just blew me away. THANK YOU for answering SO MANY of my technical and regulatory questions! If you aren't already, you need to start speaking in front of city councils and state legislatures and public utility board meetings and hell let's throw in congress. Your perspective just cut so clearly through so much confusion I had.
@petershillito
@petershillito 2 роки тому
This video helped a lot with me buying an EV last month (MG5) and figuring out what sort of "charger" to get installed at home. The UK's grant to get a box installed only covers hardwired ones and my landlord didn't want to pay for it. So, I did some digging and found the Ohme Go Commando cable. Commando is the colloquial term for the blue IEC 60309 single phase 32A socket, and that's what I got installed outside my home as it was much cheaper than getting a hardwired box installed. It also means I can take the smart cable with me if I move, and the cable can connect with my electricity provider to charge when rates are low (or it will once I get the smart meter installed next week). As TC mentioned, the box on the cable has an RCD built in in case of faults, etc rather than relying on the one in the house circuit breaker box. Thank you for letting me know that EV wall units exist that don't require hard wiring, as I may not have got an EV without that knowledge.
@dralfonzo24
@dralfonzo24 3 роки тому
Your channel is my absolute favorite thing on youtube right now. I've always been the "dad knowledge" kind of guy in my family, so watching you overly explain semi-useful stuff always makes me super excited. Thx for the amazing content.
@porter2024
@porter2024 3 роки тому
from someone severely hard of hearing, thank you for the captions.
@Julian-wp8sc
@Julian-wp8sc 3 роки тому
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR EARS
@christo930
@christo930 3 роки тому
@@Julian-wp8sc As someone also hard of hearing, it can happen in many ways. Some were born with hearing issues. Some, as in my case, from childhood illness.
@Supreme_Lobster
@Supreme_Lobster 3 роки тому
@@Julian-wp8sc love the all caps
@neotozo3789
@neotozo3789 2 роки тому
@@Julian-wp8sc lol the loud text so they can hear better
@adfasdasdfsadfasd6490
@adfasdasdfsadfasd6490 2 роки тому
Considering he does everything off a script, it would be lazy to not slap that script in CC.
@KinVao
@KinVao 2 роки тому
I am so glad you covered what was behind the orange tab. That was bothering me the whole video.
@aameralmutawa6171
@aameralmutawa6171 2 роки тому
You channel is amazing! very informative and interesting. subscribed
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 3 роки тому
Hi! There has been news. In May of 2023, Ford signaled their intent to switch to Tesla's connector beginning with cars made in 2025. Assuming they go through with the decision, that will make the charging landscape somewhat more fractured - but CCS networks have a sucky reputation right now, and I honestly can't blame Ford for wanting to sidestep that. Still, I have very mixed feelings about it. Time will tell what this means for charging moving forward, and on account of me not seeing this coming, I won't bother making any other predictions.
@jeesjees2
@jeesjees2 3 роки тому
I wonder how EU managed to get this done. Here all new(ish) Teslas have a CCS plug.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 3 роки тому
Regulation isn't a dirty word over there.
@bengellen1479
@bengellen1479 3 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections It is when it comes to the rates for charging. But let's ignore that for now.
@LarsJacobsenDK
@LarsJacobsenDK 3 роки тому
Tesla seem to go the Apple way.
@ataphelicopter5734
@ataphelicopter5734 3 роки тому
A prehistoric comment? What is this, a Tom Scott video?
@AnalogueKid2112
@AnalogueKid2112 3 роки тому
First, thank you for mentioning the Ford Focus Electric! I love my FFE and wish more people knew about them. Second, I politely disagree with the NEMA 6-50 recommendation. NEMA 14-50 is a better solution only because it is *very* common at campgrounds and RV parks. This means you’ve got an existing infrastructure that is quite ubiquitous in rural areas and allows EVs to travel further afield than the traditional DCFC network goes today.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 3 роки тому
Part of why I recommend a 6-50 is that it doesn't need a neutral and so simplifies wiring a bit. But for sure, if you wanted to get something more akin to a cord set that can be taken with you, perhaps a 14-50 is a better idea. Truthfully I don't know which is more common in the EVSE space.
@ohiobrian79
@ohiobrian79 3 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections seems to be about 50/50 (see what I did there?) I have a JuiceBox and it uses 14-50.
@TheCritic-MMA
@TheCritic-MMA 3 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections Teslas actually came with a 14-50 adaptor for their included portable connector until just recently, which made them extra common. Now Teslas just come with 5-15 but it's swappable and you can buy almost any higher modern North American style plug for it, I think each is about $40.
@sparkyb6
@sparkyb6 3 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections My JuiceBox uses a 14-50. I think when advocating for wall outlets to be installed in all garages, it makes more sense to install 14-50 outlets because they will support EVSEs that need the 14-50's neutral (and thus 120V circuit). I don't know too much about electrical codes, but presumably you could use some kind of plug adapter or alternate cable to connect a simpler EVSE like yours that doesn't need the neutral into a 14-50 outlet (and just not use the neutral) whereas the other way around you'd have a problem.
@Meton2526
@Meton2526 3 роки тому
I came here to say this. The other advantage of installing a 14-50 is that you can buy a passive adapter (just some metal pins in plastic case,) to convert 14-50 to 6-50 since all you're doing is changing the physical arrangement and leaving out the neutral; the reverse is only possible if your device has a 14-50 plug but makes no use of neutral, which is a great way to blow up your electronics if you're wrong.
@kentslocum
@kentslocum 2 роки тому
This is the most enlightening video I have seen in a long time. The people who have power need to watch this; too bad they aren't.
@chuck1804
@chuck1804 Рік тому
I neither own a Tesla or any electric vehicle, yet somehow this presentation is compelling enough for me to watch the whole video.
@looseycanon
@looseycanon 3 роки тому
Technology Connections: "Imagine a 400v turn signal bulb" Me: Grows a beard, "Ready phasers!"
@virtualtools_3021
@virtualtools_3021 3 роки тому
@@tripplefives1402 uhhh, i hope you mean directly **with a balast**, right??
@harleyclawson7639
@harleyclawson7639 3 роки тому
Ok Johnathan Frakes
@nslouka90
@nslouka90 3 роки тому
Turns on radio. MY EARS!
@harleyclawson7639
@harleyclawson7639 3 роки тому
@@virtualtools_3021 Someone knows the difference between a high pressure sodium and metal halide😁
@SCMabridged
@SCMabridged 3 роки тому
"A well thought-out design preventing the careless from driving away with the charge point." Challenge accepted.
@vacexpert2020
@vacexpert2020 3 роки тому
They need to integrate the same tech into gassers, there's already a flap in the fuel filler, why not put a microswitch on it that prevents the car from being driven away with the fuel filler
@TheHellogs4444
@TheHellogs4444 3 роки тому
I've done this with a rental EV, and the display immediately and embarrassingly made me aware of the damned charging cable. Wish they just automatically "ejected" and the charge point reeled it in
@vacexpert2020
@vacexpert2020 3 роки тому
@@TheHellogs4444 They pretty much already have that, it's called an Auto-Eject plugin, I say pretty much because it's for shore power, they come in either an E-One round end style or, for more well off clients who can afford it, they also have a custom PowerSafe connector, from my experience the E-One units are far more reliable its usually tapped off the starter so the instant you go to start the vehicle the power and, if applicable, air hookups simultaneously eject with vigor
@lord_raindrops237
@lord_raindrops237 3 роки тому
No pls don't
@teslacoil4335
@teslacoil4335 3 роки тому
@@vacexpert2020 i mean, gas pumps already have a breakaway connection for that reason, so itd be just another part to fail
@howardstenlund2324
@howardstenlund2324 Рік тому
This senior citizen luddite enjoyed your presentation immensely...I almost understood most of it. 😂
@graymondgreaves8
@graymondgreaves8 Рік тому
informative and entertaining...very well presented...and welcome back Elvis!
@TehVulpez
@TehVulpez 3 роки тому
15:58 I was expecting a card to pop up for the "Why are switches clicky?" vid
@hkelly1623
@hkelly1623 3 роки тому
DC switches are noisy because if they aren't they will draw an arc as the contacts separate. AC turns off 100 (50 Hz) or 120 (60 Hz) times per second, so no arc for slow opening switch.contacts.
@opinionateddrone
@opinionateddrone 2 роки тому
@@hkelly1623 Pretty sure OP already saw the video explaining this
@MrKillerMichael
@MrKillerMichael 2 роки тому
@@hkelly1623 Not completely true. Arching occurs because of inductiors existing in the circuit driving the voltage across the opening up until it arcs when power is cut, or the voltage of the circuit is high enough even with no inductors. For at home applications the arcs that can be created are quite minimal, but at the distribution stations that power those homes the arcs can be massive.
@BeX32210
@BeX32210 3 роки тому
There is a reason why it is so expensive: It's branded "Siemens". In the next episode: Why Type 2 is superior to Type 1 ...
@ColinRichardson
@ColinRichardson 3 роки тому
I would like to see that video.. I think I have a really good grasp on it myself.. But Alec tends to do much more indepth research and releases it in a format that I find easier to deal with.. (I am a slow reader and it doesn't tend to stick in my head for some reason, but videos I am the complete opposite) And I know if Alec says it, then it's SOLID FACTS.
@scottn7cy
@scottn7cy 3 роки тому
The only way it could be more expensive would be to brand it "Tesla"
@vinterskugge907
@vinterskugge907 3 роки тому
That, or "Apple"
@joeyknight8272
@joeyknight8272 3 роки тому
Interesting
@BeX32210
@BeX32210 3 роки тому
​@@theuser3631 Siemens EVSEs don't play any role in Germany. In Germany we call it "überteuert".
@axelknutt5065
@axelknutt5065 2 роки тому
So if I understand you correctly, an EVSE is just like a fancy light switch?
@Chris-ie9os
@Chris-ie9os 2 роки тому
Yep. Plus a 'pilot signal' telling the EV how many amps it can take.
@sprucemaroose
@sprucemaroose 2 роки тому
How did you find that out? Must've missed it in the video.
@finbom
@finbom Рік тому
Pro quality topic & information provided with a fun sense of humor as always! Love this channel!
@DUW1G1T
@DUW1G1T 3 роки тому
Alec: fancy light switch Me: okay it's a relay
@Volkswagenitalia.
@Volkswagenitalia. 3 роки тому
“These four boxes represent all of the electrical bits of a bolt. The bolt’s bits.”
@dustysparks
@dustysparks 3 роки тому
SCANDALOUS! This should be rated M for Motors!
@airlink2142
@airlink2142 3 роки тому
So where are its Nuts? HaHA! right that would be the driver/s.
@cmaedjr3358
@cmaedjr3358 2 роки тому
Weber is a fantastic channel. Glad you sent people there.
@massyz2968
@massyz2968 2 роки тому
In less than 30 mn, the whole EV tech! But I needed to watch it twice :). Thanks a lot!
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 3 роки тому
The additional function of the PP pin is to tell the car the current rating of the cable itself
@smartroadbiker
@smartroadbiker 3 роки тому
hehe you said peepee (sorry my inner child made a showing there) ;)
@106640guy
@106640guy 3 роки тому
@@smartroadbiker haha your pp is a tiny pin
@Fasteroid
@Fasteroid 3 роки тому
haha pp pin
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 3 роки тому
I actually almost talked about this! The reason I ultimately didn't was because in the North American market the EVSE almost universally has its own cordset, so that part of the spec is almost irrelevant.
@GregHassler
@GregHassler 3 роки тому
It's not an additional function, proximity detection and proximity pilot are two completely different things. He used the wrong terminology. There is no proximity pilot on Type 1 J1772. The cable tells the EVSE, not the car, its rating. Then the EVSE advertises the lesser of the two to the car.
@bumblebee4245
@bumblebee4245 3 роки тому
6:43 So the relationship between Tesla and every other ev is similar to apple and android phones and their chargers
@lostnumbr
@lostnumbr 3 роки тому
they want to be different just to be different. or, more likely, they want to control distribution of the peripherals to try to monopolize that market, at least for as long as possible through patents, exclusive manufacturing or licensing.
@stevenrecine3418
@stevenrecine3418 3 роки тому
Sort of. But a connector adapter works on Tesla without problems. Apple products will try to block use of non-certified lightning cables (cost $7 royalties for manufacture PER CABLE). Also in the video, he said that Tesla used their connector before the EVSE standard was finally finalized. As apposed to Apple who made a new connector when USB already existed for decades (And Apple released lightning cable the same year as USB-C standard 2012)
@isodoubIet
@isodoubIet 3 роки тому
I mean, just the fact that their respective customers are the same kind of people -- cultists -- is already a pretty good indication of that.
@bumblebee4245
@bumblebee4245 3 роки тому
Yeah I was mainly messing around but thanks for the information everyone
@Supraboyes
@Supraboyes 3 роки тому
@@stevenrecine3418 stop sticking up for tesla, they are the apple of the car world
@hangugeohaksaeng
@hangugeohaksaeng 2 роки тому
Your "pipe dream" was the best argument I've heard for EVs, and how they might work on an infrastructure scale. Thanks for a great video.
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 2 роки тому
Yes, worth searching for the Holy Grail!
@miketaylor3947
@miketaylor3947 4 місяці тому
The @WeberAuto channel is one of the best. Thanks for this vid explaining ESVE.
@leonhostnik9516
@leonhostnik9516 3 роки тому
As someone who has taken a class on national electric code, anyone on planet earth can submit a change for consideration. A bunch of things get filtered out, yes, but I think you could probably get it into the 2023 NEC. I think they opened or will be opening soon the system for comments, since they have finished and published NEC 2020 Edit: I think there's also similar NFPA documents or similar you can submit changes to, if you want to try and push for your smart grid technology.
@Kamel419
@Kamel419 3 роки тому
As a software engineer, I can say that this is often the case. The only exceptions are when boards are formed and you have to donate to be a part of that board.
@HamLovesBacon
@HamLovesBacon 3 роки тому
It's a good suggestion but one the NEC is unlikely to include, at least until gasoline cars are outright banned and everyone drives EVs. The NEC doesn't tell you how to design a "good"/useful/convenient electric system, just a safe one. Having a 40A circuit in the garage is a good choice, but failure to install one isn't dangerous, especially if the homeowner has no EV and thus no use for the circuit. Just inconvenient for the next homeowner who does have an EV to charge. But who knows, worth a shot suggesting it.
@rjk7104
@rjk7104 3 роки тому
@@HamLovesBacon The NEC requires a convenience outlet to be installed within 20 feet of an air conditioner. This is not a safety thing, it is purely only for convenience. I'm sure a case could be made for Alec's suggestion, but it might be difficult to get in because not everyone will have an EV in their garage, whereas every AC unit does need power for the service man to use.
@brandonn.1275
@brandonn.1275 3 роки тому
@@rjk7104 It could be easier to convince the NEC to do since California made it it's goal to transition to zero emissions by 2035 and this is right after California mandated all new homes be built with solar since January 2020.
@leonhostnik9516
@leonhostnik9516 3 роки тому
@@HamLovesBacon there are certain considerations for problems that are happening/are likely to occur though, even if most people would consider it convenience. It can be argued pretty effectively that electric cars are likely to become the norm in the next 20-30 years, and people will try doing it themselves, setting their homes on fire in the process. There is a statistical number of people who will die from this as an effect, and NFPA is *checks notes* a document to try and prevent people from dying.
@pissqueendanniella4688
@pissqueendanniella4688 3 роки тому
The main thing im taking away from this video is "🔨 this is not a drill" 😹😹😹
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 2 роки тому
...AND that I want a shirt with something like "🔧 this is not a drill either." ;o)
@JamesDrake1
@JamesDrake1 Рік тому
One thing I haven’t seen here in the US but saw a lot in Europe last month were lots of street parking with EV chargers. Chargers in lamp posts, parking meters, and little poles sticking out of the sidewalk.
@ExtraThiccc
@ExtraThiccc 4 місяці тому
I wish america was more like perfect europe where every place is high tech and advanced and cash doesnt exist anymore because everyone just uses their government supplied smartphones to pay for everything
@stedavid13
@stedavid13 2 роки тому
Curious to your take on EVSEs like Zappi which expand upon the basic functionality explained in this video. You can pull excess solar & wind energy if you're producing onsite, or offset your load by allowing the grid to control both when charging occurs as well as the ramping up or down the power provided as a way to balance the grid. They really took it a step beyond, and thankfully so.
@ChrisEllorris
@ChrisEllorris Рік тому
I love your profile picture :D
@bobtahoma
@bobtahoma Рік тому
Bit too advanced for the US market I suspect 😂
@tildessmoo
@tildessmoo 3 роки тому
RE: requiring ventilation: I'm not actually sure if that's for cars at all. Electric forklifts tend to use lead/acid batteries (the massive lead/acid battery pack actually functions as ballast for the forklift's load, so I can't see lithium entirely taking over the market), and the ones I've used charged by just plugging into a standard 120 V outlet, and it's important to make sure they're charged in a well-ventilated area both because of the large amount of hydrogen gas released during charging and because the heating of those batteries from charging tends to evaporate not just water, but a bit of the acid dissolved in the water as well. (When you're dealing with that much lead/acid battery getting deep-cycled every couple of days, replenishing the water in the batteries actually becomes a regular part of maintenance. That's right, it was once my job to water the forklift.) Now, it's been a few years since I've had anything to do with forklifts, but given the added safety and convenience features (specifically, power-limiting and scheduling) and relatively low cost of upgrading or even changing the plugs in new manufacture, I'd imagine that EVSEs are, if not the new standard, at least making inroads into the small industrial vehicle (forklifts, warehouse trolleys, etc.) market, where it's important for both safety and regulations compliance to ensure those multi-ton lead/acid battery packs aren't charged in an enclosed space.
@frollard
@frollard 3 роки тому
Thankfully, with lithium (especially the fancy pants next gen stuff just announced) being such high energy density, there wouldn't be much stopping a forklift manufacturer using a significantly (physically) smaller battery, combined with cheaper, dumber ballast (steal, concrete, etc) for an overall break-even cost.
@ColinRichardson
@ColinRichardson 3 роки тому
I wonder if "lithium batteries" + "concrete" would be better in the long run than using lead acid for charge + ballast?
@frollard
@frollard 3 роки тому
​@@ColinRichardson Hard to say. They're both eminently recyclable. Forklift is a special case where the weight is actually useful. The nice thing is you don't have to physically maintain a lithium battery (with proper management system attached), unlike the lead acid which overcharge or quick charge depletes the electrolyte as op states. (I remember topping up our pallet jack batteries forever ago...legit). If you inadvertently upend your forklift, it's nice to not have sulfuric acid spilling out (as it would with the non-sealed battery to allow said gasses to escape). Lead acid has ~300 full deep discharge cycles lifetime, lithium depending on charge depth can be 300-4000 cycles, and can charge and discharge at a much higher rate. Too many variables to say 'better' either direction.
@ColinRichardson
@ColinRichardson 3 роки тому
@@frollard Maybe this is just an intermediate state, where it's not worth the cost to replace the batteries, but a small BMS can be easily (read cheaply) bolted on to allow EVSE to charge it, and then when the forklifts/lead acid batteries come to end of life, then can just hotswap to lithium and still use the same EVSE.. that way you could still mix/match multiple forklifts on the same charging units?? (I am just grasping here)
@frollard
@frollard 3 роки тому
@@ColinRichardson would definitely prefer a more modern connection for charging than that old chonky DC connector
@GeoQuag
@GeoQuag 3 роки тому
“The white wire should be red because there is no neutral but whatever” Badly colored wires never cause a problem so I’m sure it’s fine.
@Angel_Bob_
@Angel_Bob_ 3 роки тому
Not necessarily true. The reasoning behind having a standard for which colors are for what when wiring electrical devices to the grid is to prevent people from mis-wiring a circuit because they need a separate wiring diagram for each piece of equipment they're wiring. It's way easier to remember that the black wire is live and dangerous (when working with mains) when it's always the black wire no matter what device you're working with. You are right; mismatched wire colors will function just fine, but electricians would like not killing themselves to be as straightforward as it gets. Here's to being pedantic!
@ulti-mantis
@ulti-mantis 3 роки тому
@@Angel_Bob_ I think they did a sarcasm and are aware of the problems...
@EarthAmbassador
@EarthAmbassador 3 роки тому
@@Angel_Bob_ He was being sarcastic.
@marcinsladowski5385
@marcinsladowski5385 3 роки тому
Colors are for Europe. Blue is Neutral, Brown, Black and Grey are three main phases and of course yellow-green is protective earth.
@TBFSJjunior
@TBFSJjunior 3 роки тому
@@marcinsladowski5385 In the past this was different though and the phases were brown, black and... black. So if you have old equipment or old wiring in Germany for example, this can be a bit annoying.
@robertbobbeaudry8253
@robertbobbeaudry8253 2 роки тому
Very informative. Eliminating much Guess work in purchasing a new or used level 2 charger.
@pw10a2sal
@pw10a2sal 2 роки тому
I love bloppers, XD, thanks for the incredible simple explanation. I don´t have an electric car and I learned a lot from your video. Have a happy new year 2022.
@FalconFour
@FalconFour 3 роки тому
19:15 - "I'm absolutely certain I'll be corrected if I'm wrong" 😂 Yes, Teslas speak 1-wire CAN between the car and the EVSE by signaling "digital communication required" in the J1772 spec, then they handshake digitally and speak in Tesla-language (digitally). Both the EVSE and the car are fully capable of falling back to J1772 if both sides don't agree (e.g. using a Tesla-to-J1772 adapter on a Tesla EVSE, or a J1772 adapter on a Tesla vehicle). J1772 for example has a lower limit of 6 amps, and signalling that is prone to error (often considered too small a PWM to register), but Tesla can easily go 5A or lower. They can also exchange VIN and SOC% info, if Tesla ever decides to do so - perhaps using the semi-dormant WiFi capability in newer Wall Connectors.
@Croz89
@Croz89 3 роки тому
I don't really understand why all EV's didn't go in for a standard two wire CAN interface from the get go (do they still use other protocols in new vehicles outside of NA/Europe?). It would only need one extra pin on the connector and would have been using an extremely common standard that's been in existence for around 30 years without much modification, and works just as well for modern cars as it did for those back in the 90's.
@FalconFour
@FalconFour 3 роки тому
@@Croz89 I work in the EVSE world (if you've seen a JuiceBox there's probably my signature buried under a component in the silkscreen ;) ) and let me tell you, I ... mostly agree. The barrier-to-entry of analog J1772 is very low and easy to implement, incredibly fail-safe. The strange -12v level and the 24v peak-to-peak swing you get as a result is the hardest part to deal with. CAN might work, but it's not foolproof - and getting manufacturers to agree on a digital protocol (CAN is a medium, not a protocol) would be a mess. That said, we got digital communication with ISO 15118 implemented as J1772 for DC charging (aka CCS) - but they went to the polar opposite direction - they use PLC (powerline communication, as in, commonly used for home Ethernet-over-power-line adapters!) and a full IPv6 stack for that! Yeah, IPv6. For charging stations. They went straight from 0 to insane complexity, now requiring ridiculously complex PLC hardware to overlay a digital protocol on top of the (still-same-seeming) analog J1772 protocol. So the analog component (the PWM) of the J1772 line still seems totally normal on a scope, but in the RF realm there's digital communication taking place. Couldn't they just have used CAN? ;)
@Croz89
@Croz89 3 роки тому
@@FalconFour I agree, J1772 has the advantage of being very robust and stable, and requires only simple electronics to monitor. That said, CAN transceivers are cheap, ubiquitous and are considered pretty sturdy. I can't imagine the reliability is that much greater. After all, modern cars already have one for diagnostics and EMS reprogramming, and I've never heard of one failing (though I guess it must happen from time to time). Perhaps I'm missing something here, you're the expert after all :) As for the protocol, I seemed to have gotten my terminology mixed up. I meant to say I imagine an extension to the OBD-II protocol would be sufficient for most EV charging communications (OBD-EV anyone?). The message format is already well defined and the data that would be useful to the unit could be added as PID addresses. In fact I would be very surprised if they didn't already exist on many EV's since they'd be very useful for maintenance. All that would be needed would be for manufacturers to agree on standard PID addresses for all the info the unit needs. To me this "single wire CAN" idea seems to be a way to shove CAN capability into the existing connector, so it seems like EV manufacturers (Tesla at least) are coming round to the idea that CAN _would_ have been a better idea in the first place, but it's too late to change the connector design.
@RGressick
@RGressick 3 роки тому
Adding my Tesla driver rage. *GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE* Nah, it was a good video. There is a lot of technical stuff you could go more into but that's more reserved for the different connector types. But it was a good video because its a glorified light switch with a automatic dimmer. I install these types of wall connectors and outlets for people. But i would never that low on Amp. I am the "Go BIG or Go Home" type of guy. I always do a minimal of a NEMA 14-50 instead with wiring able to support 60amps. That way IF you do swap out to a more powerful Wall Connector OR want to install a permanent wall connector, you have the room to do so without having to replace the wiring.
@dan_
@dan_ 3 роки тому
@@FalconFour So you're saying the CCS standard has support for standard networking protocols over the power delivery lines? That's really interesting. It might seem like an unnecessary requirement to support right now, but I can imagine that being useful for all sorts of cool applications in the future. I guess always-connected 5G within the car would also provide many of the same benefits this opens the door to, but it still seems like a good forward-thinking addition to the spec to me.
@cnaumann35801
@cnaumann35801 3 роки тому
Excellent video! Thanks! I would recommend installing a NEMA 14-50 (120V/240V) outlet instead of a NEMA 6-50 240V outlet. It is trivial to convert from a 14-50 to 6-50 outlet, but not the other ways around. The 14-50 is big with RVs, the 6-50 is big with welders. I would also suggest installing the wiring for a 50A circuit instead of a 40A for future proofing. The extra 10A would better serve multi EV household with load sharing. The extra material is fairly trivial. All Teslas come with a J1772 adapter.
@NoTimeForThatNow
@NoTimeForThatNow 2 роки тому
I did just that with my wiring and socket, and was expecting someone to mention the car comes with the adapter!
@markwhitis
@markwhitis 2 роки тому
Agreed. Gives you both ground and neutral and allows you to use 120v or 240v devices or a mix of the two and is more common. Supports a broader range of uses: washing machines, driers, welders, RVs, construction power breakouts, EVs, air conditioners, stationary power tools, etc.
@drwhoeric
@drwhoeric 2 роки тому
I also agree with the NEMA 14-50 receptacle and to also note both receptacles are rated for either 40 amp or 50 amp peak loads, depending on wiring and matching breaker size. Adding a 50 amp breaker requires a minimum 6 gauge copper wire to be used and main panels with a 125 disconnect or sub-panels with anything smaller would be pushing the envelope for appliances combined with charging, therefore many times it is not practical to put a 50 amp breaker.
@ncdave4life
@ncdave4life 2 роки тому
Agreed. Three-wire 240V outlets (like NEMA 6-50) have been out of fashion (and I think out of code) in the USA for twenty-five years. Install the four-wire 14-50, and then if you need to plug in a 3-wire 240v plug, you can just use a Nema 14-50P to 6-50R "Welder Adapter Cord," (about $24 on Amazon).
@moodberry
@moodberry 2 роки тому
I was thinking the exact same thing, since I have an RV on my property, and may in the future buy an electric car.
@SolarPunk80
@SolarPunk80 4 місяці тому
I love your channel and have often wished that portable power stations like Bluetti ect. were at least 30 years old because it would be awesome to watch a video of your thoughts on them… But then I saw this video and realised that they’re not necessarily that old and you are dedicating an amazing video to this tech… Which almost gave me hope to one day see a power station video by you 😅❤
@GeorgieBOOY155
@GeorgieBOOY155 2 роки тому
AWESOME VIDEO....Thanks Very Much for your Explicit Clarifications on EV Chargers and How it All Comes together to WORK
@calvinrempel
@calvinrempel 3 роки тому
Yep - apart from the still high cost of entry, the facts of life of being a renter are definitely a hindrance to EV adoption. Mind you, for those of us in the North (e.g. Canada) where block heaters are a thing on cars for winter, there is quite often already 120V infrastructure available at or near parking stalls for that which could potentially be used for charging - albeit slow charging. One of the perks of living in places where the cold air hurts your face.
@NigelGentry
@NigelGentry 3 роки тому
The problem is that it seems that the car charging would draw a lot more power than a block heater. A quick search on the internet shows that block heaters go up to 1500 watts and slow charging starts at 3000 watts. I assume this could work OK, but it would take a very, very long time to charge a car.
@DevynCairns
@DevynCairns 3 роки тому
@@NigelGentry On 120V, slow chargers draw ~1500W, actually, because that's all they're allowed to. My mother hasn't bothered to get a 240V circuit installed in her garage as the breaker box is quite far away and it would be rather expensive, so that's how she generally charges her car. Yes, it's slow, but if you rarely drive very far, it's not usually a problem. When she needs faster charging, she relies on public level 2 chargers that I think are probably about 7 kW, or the DC fast chargers if she really needs charge quickly. That block heaters are also 1500W is not a coincidence; that's just the upper limit on a 120V 15A circuit for continuous use here in North America. Space heaters are the same; they're almost universally 1500W too.
@edwinrots1134
@edwinrots1134 3 роки тому
Here in Finland, we have similar infrastructure and similar problems. Block heaters are typically around 500W and (in many car parks) interior heaters are prohibited to avoid massive power consumption. Most residential outlets (in shared parking lots) also have timers that let you specify a (max) 2h slot that the outlet is active. My homeowner's association will let you plug a car into the block heater outlet and you get the full 10 or 16A at 240V but only for 2h every day.
@jacksons1010
@jacksons1010 3 роки тому
@@DevynCairns Devyn is correct about the ~1500W limit. I drive my EV about 40 miles per day and charge overnight on a 120VAC circuit - and I only need to do that every second or third day. I think a lot of people will find as I have that installing a 240V outlet is a nicety, not a necessity.
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite 3 роки тому
Here's the fundamental problem with this idea - If you are in conditions where you would need to use block heater on an internal combustion engine, 120v charging is completely ineffective. Why? The battery must be in a certain temperature range to charge which means that the car will use an internal heater to warm it. How much power that heater will draw varies with the actual temperature. In conditions where you would be forced to use a block heater with an internal combustion engine, the power draw of the heater is likely to meet or even exceed 120v. Of course it would work fine for like 9 months out of the year but being unable to operate the system for 4 months out of the year would make it functionally useless.
@Chrisamic
@Chrisamic 3 роки тому
"I'm absolutely certain I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, so I won't even bother asking". You know us so well...
@hughneutron5303
@hughneutron5303 2 роки тому
14:24 when I try to explain to my wife why I bought ANOTHER guitar
@KlodFather
@KlodFather 2 роки тому
Or in my case another radio or piece of tech... :D Looks like I will be out sleeping in the dog cage again LOL
@Astrophysikus
@Astrophysikus 2 роки тому
Honestly, even with generous incentives, I would not want to have my car's battery used for grid stabilization. "Standard" lithium cells have a somewhat limited number of cycles, and I am not comfortable with extra battery degradation coming from all these additional cycles. It might be different with LFP batteries, they tend to be rated for a much higher number of cycles.
@TinyGiraffes
@TinyGiraffes 2 роки тому
Ya, I can't imagine they would be willing to pay what I would require to opt-in
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 2 роки тому
The range of charge/discharge is relatively small and should be settable by you, and would have an infinitesimal effect on battery life. But could make you money or at least reduce your cost of charging. To my mind, it would be a good tradeoff to make your battery available in return for free charging!
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 роки тому
And from a consumer perspective it also comes down to cost. Both fuel and electricity cost money, but with which can I drive further for the money.
@rndmtim2
@rndmtim2 2 роки тому
@@gregbailey45 Nah, it's not negligible. My company does grid connected batteries, 5MWh or more, and augmentation (the process of adding more stacks so that the nominal rating of the facility stays the same is a substantial part of the 20 year cost of one of these. We assume 1 equivalent cycle per day, and with LFP cells that's not hugely different from the normal rate of degradation even if you didn't use the cycle.. but at more than that for LFP - or more than 100 for NMC's like the LG Chem battery in the Bolt, or the Panasonic NCA battery in most Telsas - the life drops pretty quickly.
@rndmtim2
@rndmtim2 2 роки тому
Yeah, I used to drive a Bolt 54 miles each way from rural upstate NY to northern Albany. When we got to January/February my range dropped by about 1/3- if it was say -10 out - and I could still get to and from work, but if I'd been used as a system battery I could easily have wound up stranded.
@InnocuousRemark
@InnocuousRemark 3 роки тому
Oh my God me and my team have been driving Priuses for years and we never knew what that sound was! Now I can die in peace.
@damandbass
@damandbass 3 роки тому
It seemed like yesterday when we were all asking "Who killed the electric car?". Now it's "Who has the best charging standard?"
@Calendyr
@Calendyr 2 роки тому
Very interesting. I wish you did a follow up video explaining charging options depending if you have a Tesla or non-Tesla vehicle. I keep hearing about people getting stranded because they can't reach a dedicated charger but as far as I understand it, electric vehicles can plug in pretty much any power connector as long as they have the correct plugs/adaptors.
@Hero-do7wm
@Hero-do7wm Рік тому
Necro, but the problem is that often these chargers are very slow. The kinds of chargers he is talking about in this video (Level 1/2) often will charge at a maximum of roughly 6-20 miles per hour. That kind of charging for home and/or work usage is fine, but if you are on a long road trip these are going to cause issues. In some rural areas finding Level 3 chargers which can charge at much higher rates (anywhere from 200-300 mi/hr or more. varies on a few factors) can be hard. When my family drives from Arkansas to Flordia there are areas where we go for 3+ hours with no level 3 chargers. If you run out of power here you could be stuck for hours charging at a level 2. The other thing is that we have hit cases where 2 or 3 out of 4 of the chargers in a public location do not work, if you get unlucky and all of these chargers fail you could be completely screwed. There are portable chargers that can be used in these types of cases (we bring one on long road trips) but they will get you at best 8mi/hr off a standard 120V/15A circuit. if you got stuck in a situation like that where you cant get to any Level 2 or 3 charger, your best scenario is to find a hotel for the night cause you will not be getting to your destination that day. The good thing for this problem is that EV ranges are increasing. Our first EV was a BMW i3 which had roughly 120mi + 80mi worth of gas that could be put into it. Our newer vehicles have around 250-300mi of range (Tesla model 3 and Mustang Mach E) having these kinds of range issues in these vehicles are less likely and the i3 could have gas put in it so any standard gas station would work. Another thing for any kind of range estimate I give is that these vary on several factors, usually speed, incline, ambient temperature, and heating/cooling which can affect the range as much as 20% so that can also cause issues where a drive where you make it with 20-30 extra miles might be siginficantly closer or impossible in other conditions. Also for anyone reading this, I do NOT recommend a BMW i3 for anyone. The ranges are rather poor for current modern EVs and mine broke down several times after owning it for 3-4 years to the point it was in the shop for over 20% of the last year I owned it. In general repairing it is difficult due to the fact that most dealership and mechanics will not have parts for it and have to ship them from Germany which takes a long time and can be expensive. Although reading now apparently the i3 has been discontinued so its unlikely people will buy one.
@Calendyr
@Calendyr Рік тому
@@Hero-do7wm I have seen videos talking about charging in camping grounds where they have 240V outlets, so I am guessing that would be level 2. You might not want to stay there for a full charge but if you charge for an hour or so while getting lunch you probably would have enough range to find a level 3 charger somewhere. Also saw a video about the newer chargers that can charge the car in 15 mins or so if supported, that is pretty impressive! As time goes by, the technology is getting much better so my guess is, in a short few years, charging will no longer be a problem.
@Hero-do7wm
@Hero-do7wm Рік тому
@@Calendyr Yea it’s gotten a lot better overtime. When we first got our i3, taking a long road trip in a all electric vehicle other then maybe a Tesla would have been unthinkable. Now we can basically get anywhere in the country in either of our EVs and generally you aren’t going to have any issues. It does take a little more planning then going on a road trip in a ICE vehicle but there are several routing apps/websites that will do it for you (and some cars also have them but excluding Tesla they typically don’t work very well)
@tigerseye73
@tigerseye73 2 роки тому
Thanks so much for telling it like it is. I'm a journeyman industrial electrician and becoming seriously interested in buying a new Chevy Bolt. Definitely not going to give some snot nosed smuck $2000 to run a simple 240 volt receptacle circuit for me. Thanks for explaining the level 2 chargers. A dealership will have to include one in the trunk, without cost, to cinch the deal, whenever that happens. You have a great channel here.
@aarons7975
@aarons7975 Рік тому
DO NOT BUY A CHARGER FROM THE DEALER. They will charge you 500 dollars or otherwise rape you on something you can get for under 100 on amazon / ebay etc that is the same thing and just as safe.
@Hans-KRC
@Hans-KRC 3 роки тому
"Well, you'll find out shortly". Oh, Alec. I see what you did there.
@dm2060
@dm2060 3 роки тому
Drinking game idea, drink a shot everytime he says "just a fancy light switch".
@BenLJackson
@BenLJackson 3 роки тому
Even better, drink every time he says "That's it...-"
@Shl0kk
@Shl0kk 3 роки тому
Or ... except for tesla
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 роки тому
@@valleyofiron125 Not to be too pedantic, but do you mean pedantic instead of padantic? Also, I don't have a fingerer. Do you mean finger?
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 роки тому
@@arnehurnik The prices I'm seeing are $735.26 for the WiFi version and $387.45 for the standard version. Certainly very expensive for the components within (especially for the WiFi version, that's probably
@OmegaF77
@OmegaF77 3 роки тому
@Inotamira Orani Kill and embalm at the same time.
@maxleefer7765
@maxleefer7765 2 роки тому
2:43 Hold up, that's not the US, that's Netherlands :D Never thought a 6 second clip of nothing could be so Dutch, I legit stopped the video so I could try to figure out what city had that many bikes. Also great video as always.
@juppster5694
@juppster5694 2 роки тому
Excellent, thank you! Especially enjoyed the detail around (not) charger-to-vehicle comms. Simple, and hopefully effective... my GM/Holden wagon uses different resistances on steering wheel buttons to operate the radio. Sometimes I press 'VolUp' and get 'Mute' :-O
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