Your solution is walking?

lol yeah i kinda of agree

this. car ownership also directly affects economic mobility. its much harder to get ahead in life when you need to put down hundreds or thousands for something that you pretty much need, at least in North America.

Good options for many places but just not viable for the US. It's just too big and spread out. Outside of the I-95 corridor on the east coast, population density is surprisingly low.

@@wingracer1614 it can still be served by public transportation

also thought provoking I'm siting here questioning my moral line.

Much better than the CNBC one

Sam is incapable of doing sub perfection

@@liquidKi American problems require American solutions

agreed, his presentation skills are top notch.

through evaporation i guess?

@@imalittletoxicjustalittle yes, the rocks are actually called evaporites because of the fact they are "created" via evaporation

Don't play into the global warming scam electric death.

@@ricktd6891 you sound a lot like the guys who used to say electricity kills back in the AC vs DC wars

@@MrOpenGL Are you a child? Go learn some science and don't play with electricity. You won't be able to handle it and you might die.

To be fair nearly all of Americas Electric Grid is desperately needing upgrades with most of them being built before the 1970's and haven't seen upgrades for decades. But yes EV's will indeed put a strain on yhe Grid but practically everything else can be classified as bringing the Grid a burden without good reason like Adverts on Billboards and Screens and AC Usage

Those child slaves are _artisans_!

Artisinal doesn mean "forced child labor", it means something is made in traditional or non mechanized way. Pay attention to a word " traditional ", child labor in mines there common thing for hundreds maybe even thousands of years. It has to stop obviously, but it doesn't mean that anything named Artisinal includes child labor.

@@JackieWelles he didn’t state that it did. He implied that they have misused the term and been creative in their use of the term

@@AlexG-wk3nh Even so, the term they use is not wrong. Child labor is much bigger problem because its not just about mining, those families don't have enough money or chances to earn money anywhere else. This is often not some forced labor rather people not having a choice and I blame governments who allow people to fall that far!

In my country there's an issue where people mine for coal in makeshift shafts. Of course it is totally black market with lots of injuries and deaths. The word for it translates directly in english to "Poverty Shafts". Good to know we can now call them artisans, or maybe craft coal?

It's for lazy people What do you expect

Humans love of convenience is gonna be a hard habit to break for sure!

@@ymj4256 let's judge. His comment is valid. Your isn't.

If read closely, he's pointing out the irony in the vid. Your comment gave no perspective.

That’s why I stopped HelloFresh as well… for PRODUCE food! 🤦‍♂️ at least use compostable bags

Sponsorships make the algorithm go round

The global warming scam is nothing but environmental damage and animal and human genocide.

@@ricktd6891 You're saying it's all fake? As opposed to companies wanting you to believe it's fake so they can keep doing what they've always done

@@VitaeLibra The problem with what you're saying is you're assuming what they said is true and CO2 is some kind of pollution and therefore companies have been polluting the planet with it. That's the opposite of the truth. Atmospheric CO2 is not pollution, it's plant food and there's TOO LITTLE in the atmosphere, not too much. Life thrived in 7000 PPM and there was no catastrophic global warming.

@@VitaeLibra The dangerous level of atmospheric CO2 we're closets to is 150 PPM, at which point all plants die, all animals die, we all die. At 1200 PPM to 1600 PPM we all live and plants thrive and there's more food on the planet, not less. The Earth is actually historically cold right now too, not historically hot. Want to see it? Search : "Global temperature and atmospheric CO2 over geologic time/graph/images."

It's almost like this fake green revolution is worse for the environment than our gas cars...cars that only account for 16% of the world's C02 production.

Radon is produced by the decay of radioactive elements (U, Th, etc) in the earth's crust. It seeps out EVERYWHERE. Doesn't matter whether you dig or not. It also has a very short half life (~3.8 days). It becomes a problem in CLOSED rooms, not out in the open (like open pit mines).

Well its almost like people believe that they care about the planet, or ther people.

SO TRUE. THESE GUYS LIE LIKE A RUG.

Yeah this sponsorship doesn't add up. There are far more economic and environmental friendly options than this.

Lmaoo that's true😂

@@hiiamelecktro4985 paypal me 3000£

Yeah. Almost all the green marketing are worse.

What's worse is he blatantly declares it as a way to decrease your emissions. This is shameful. The guy is just a fucking sellout.

Yes, that's the key problem. Continuous growth required by our monetary system.

You can always expand in services, pretty much what Japan did.

MJ japans population is shrinking. By 2050 there will 25% smaller population there.

@@MJ-uk6lu You mean like a service economy? How does that fix anything? Service economies rely on industrial and manufacturing economies for their equipment, supplies, etc..

Hydrogen must be the answer then

They are 98% recyclable, the remaining 2% is just some plastic which we hopefully will also be able to recycle one day

Yes and no. By hand they can be disassembled and used to make more batteries. But 95% of lithium batteries go to the landfill. It costs less to make batteries from new. The nickel and cadmium are extracted but that is all. What you should really be worried about is water. Contaminating and pumping 500,000 gallons of water per ton of lithium is an environmental disaster on a global scale. That alone should halt this ev market in it's tracks

Due to the nature of the recycling methods, it would actually generate more carbon emissions to recycle them than it would take to make new batteries.

@@SmokeElectronics It makes sense that tiny batteries in small electronics aren't recycled, but the amount of recyclable material in an EV is enormous. Tossing it in a landfill tossing out profit.

Europe might be banning Lithium due to this. They are horrible for the environment, which is a reason why solar panels and wind turbines are bad for the environment (and why nuclear is the way to go)

Write about the genocide the global warming scam is causing instead. Write about the child slave labor used in mining minerals for the batteries too.

Did you get to address how are the batteries disposed of once they finish their life cycle? Because this video didn't cover that.

Hmm

Watching the section on solid state I kept wondering "what are solid state batteries made out of?"

With solid state battery, you will need a little less energy content for the same range, because you will be carrying less battery with you. So you can reduce Co and Ni (not Li though). But I think LFP is the future.

@@jonhanson8925 Basically the same materials can be used for Anode and Cathode as for conventional batteries. So for cathode we have the typical NMC/NCA and LFP materials, but it is also possible to use other materials like Vanadium oxide, but a lot of additional R&D is required to commercialize those, which is unlikely considering the available materials. At the anode side we have the main reason for the higher energy density of solid state batteries, due to less chemical reactions at the anode-electrolyte interface Lithium metal can more easily be used, which boosts the energy density tremendously ( Graphite has a capacity of ~370 mAh/g while Lithium has 3860 mAh/g). The biggest promise however is to use only the copper current collector as the anode, on which the Lithium from the NMC deposits during charging, omitting the anode material completely would of course be a huge plus for the energy density (and eliminate material use and thus cost). But as you probably can imagine this is rather hard to accomplish outside the lab. Where the biggest difference is, is of course the electrolyte and separator. Here the solid electrolyte acts at the same time as a separator, so no need for that. As materials there are three main classes: ceramics (like the LLZO from Quantumscape), sulfidic (Don't know from top of my head which company uses those but they often consist of Lithium, sulfur, phosphor and some other materials) and lastly there are organic, polymer type electrolytes (do not have an example right now), those are already commercialized by blue solutions. However all have their problems, e.g. the blue solution batteries need to be heated to ~60°C to have sufficient conductivity for the Li ions.

@@kingofurukgilgamesh7828 Yeah you are completely right, one would require a smaller battery for the same range due to the reduced weight, but i have no idea how strong that impact would be

Is it really better with oil? I mean, sure, there is oil produced in the U.S. or Norway, but a large portion of the world's supply comes from oppressive, non-democratic regimes with little regard to environmental impact.

@@lukasfiala1019 The global south needs to be able to nationalize its oil and lithium (i.e. Bolivia) to allow the profits from that mining to develop the country, rather then for the enrichment of a few corrupt, local politicians and western capitalists.

@@wellingtonaviationchannel634 yes, just like Venezuela did... now all the oil profits are going to develop the country, not to Maduro pockets

@@sllgrecco Before oil nationalization, Venezuelas oil was being funneled offshore to American oil companies. After nationalization the money was funded into Venezuelan social programs to feed the poor, until the US slapped 155+ sanctions on them starving their economy.

@@wellingtonaviationchannel634 Venezuela was the richest south american country before Chavez. By the way, Bolivia already nationalized his oil production years ago, no poor saw it's profits.

utilitarian ethics is all about this.

This implies that there is no existence or reduction in badness in the world. Aren't we as consumers committing bad deeds every day by the way we consume and by how much?

Nagasaki and Hiroshima were bad allowed for the greater good, you like or not.

Yeah, forcing tree huggers to make difficult decisions makes this conflict so much more interesting

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

No it isn't, its tripe. Who's greater good? What type of bad? A lot of a little bad or a lot of a very bad? As always, it will generally be settled by who has more money. When that fails, it will be solved by who has a larger military or at least, who is more willing to send soldiers to die.

Unfortunately, this question is never answered by Society. It is answered by Money.

"nuance"

It’s literally scarcity economics. There are no solutions, only compromises.

@@cccycling5835 lithium, coal, oil, solar radiation, wind. None of these are scarce.

Thanks! I just wish these were software options in all consumer battery electronics. (But that wouldn't be very profitable)

@@ClearGalaxies That's absolutely 100% correct!

Also… BIGGEST problem with Lithium batteries 🔋 🤔 🧐 = Not recyclable! ♻️🔥🗑

@@bthemedia Not true.

@TransitNerd the issue with fuel cells is that they're only between 25-50% as efficient as just using a battery to store the energy

Nuclear Diamond Battery That Will Run For 28,000 Years. . A world without chargers . ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fniXp2mWbodop3U.html

Thing is, produce at the store also uses a lot of packaging. Ever buy a lot of eggs, like multiple dozen? Fruits come into the store like that, in a cardboard box, individually separated by more cardboard, sometimes in foam sleeves. Workers take them out of there before putting them on display. I don’t know if that outweighs how much Hello Fresh does, I’m just saying there’s hidden costs that you might no be considering.

@@intan4722 what? I used to work in food logistics as a supervisor and have never seen that apart from ecologically produced fruit for the rich and pretentious.

Have you ever actually tried hello fresh? The amount of extra plastic is very small. The meals come in recycled paper bags with the whole thing in a recycled cardboard box. The vegetables have less packaging than you often get in the supermarket. Where you do get extra is in the small ingredients like you get a sachet of vinegar rather than using some out if a bottle. But overall the quantity of plastic is not much higher. The meals aren't shipped individually you get one delivery a week which is no different than most people would do driving to the supermarket anyway.

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 what the f* kinda vegetables you people buy that comes with packaging. Its vegetables.

@@Strafprozessordnung ? Do you buy all your vegetables from local farmers markets only and expect that's how it works everywhere on the planet? Because unfortunately it doesn't. People buy bags of potatoes, carrots and onions... Strawberries, blueberries, mushrooms etc all come in plastic boxes. Even when picking your own produce, you're given plastic bags to put them in to weigh. For someone working in "food logistics" you sound weirdly clueless about how much plastic is everywhere.

It's quite obvious there is a ways to go. Unfortunately the masses are brainwashed.

I wonder what will happen when the “brainwashed” start driving these things for awhile and wake up to the reality that they can’t compete with a real car. All the sudden the market is flooded with used Ev’s no one will buy…

WHO IN THE HECK IS GOING TO BUY A 5 TON TOYOTA?

I don't know what you said but I agree

I hate to tell you kid, that's the way the world works.

It's creepy

@@splitloopgaming3523 That's a bad take away. The point is there are always unintended or undesirable consequences for every choice, no matter how well intended.

Very Machiavellian

the age old doctrine of "the ends justify the means" (no matter how murderous the regime is, it will be worth it for the greater good) Cultural Marxism

Very cool! As someone who loves motorsport, alternatives to batteries always interest me. Have you found any good ones yet? Formula One look to be switching to an e-fuel of some kind, but I'm not sure what exactly their biofuel is.

Environmental responsibility sounds like something a bunch of tree hugging hippies made up to make us feel guilty for not being rich enough to afford expensive electric cars

@@noahroth2992 thanks! There are many different types of alternative fuels, for example power-to-gas or liquid-to-gas using hydrogen (especially green hydrogen produced using renewables) or biofuels produced by using food by-products such as corn or, as I recently heard, using wheat scraps! It is really interesting and definitely a topic that has to get more mainstream attention especially from politicians (EU looks determined to kill the ICE even though it could use alternative fuels and reduce its emissions). As a environmentalist myself, it is definitely something impressing as you don't normally hear much from the electrification problems...

@@TKUA11 it's actually pretty helpful as we are trying to change the business approach from within... The car manufacturer has to change in order to help mitigate the climate impact of its business model

Fuel cells are too expensive because of all the precious metals required. Also green hydrogen as a fuel is extremely inefficient compared to a battery. Cars will run on batteries.

I'd say being three hours from a Starbuck's is a feature, not a bug!

Get ready for new taxes on used ICE vehicles that will discourage ownership, or they’ll simply pass a mandate to ban all ICE vehicles…

@@deandrethompson5341 they dont need to, they will break at some point and gasoline will not be available everywhere anymore

And then how do they expect all those people to be able to afford a brand new electric car when the values of all of their gas and diesel vehicles fall through the floor that they would need to sell to be able to afford a new vehicle 🤔

Watch the price of those skyrocket though. Same with fuel. It's going to be rough on the citizens.

@@japopo5533 ever heard of second hand EVs ? I swear it's a thing.........

Care to explain the differences for most people?

@@RetroDawn nah he'll just say there is a difference and give no context or sources. "extracted via evaporation" oh yes now i completely understand

@@RetroDawn The images of the salt lakes and ponds produces lithium brine - a salt solution which is concentrated through evaporation and some refining to purify. The Australian lithium mine shown produces pegmatites, a type of ore (usually about 5-6%) that requires refining and processing into a usable concentrate. Brine type lithium requires a vast quantities of water and land for ponds where as lithium mining uses much more energy to extract and process but this is usually cheaper at scale. If we can use more sustainable energy sources for mining I suspect pegmatites will be cheaper and more sustainable in the long term.

Video was clear about the large amount of water required for evap recovery of Li, the most common method and the one required at Thatcher should it happen.

@@Nill757 But that is mostly toxic salt water and not quite comparable to drinking water. And it isn't a required method as he has shown later in the video there are other methods of getting the salt put of the water.

Woah... are you a GENIUS or something!?!

We could even combine multiple cars and attach them together

can you say... Milwaukee Railroad

You’re sounding an awful lot like Adam something and I love it

To late I’ve thought of it already and they said no

the problem is that even in a small town with a decent public transport.. most people still have decided that they need to own a car. for when they need to extend beyond that zone, or they want to go somewhere that public transport doesn't reach etc. and once you have the vehicle, the only incentive not to drive is environmentalism.. and to many that's just not worth the cost of convenience. in the US anyways. i'm a big car person. i love and prefer personal transport to public. i hate cities and pretty much hate people and being around them. nothing makes me angrier than having to sit near them or breathe their air or listen to their conversations etc. it will not sway me towards public transportation. what would be effective to me however is a small light and efficient electric vehicle. something with a small carbon footprint and smaller capability. however i would still need to own a larger vehicle for everything else i need to do. and the economics of multiple vehicles is not compelling enough. so this would need to be something that did not cost a lot to insure, or register, or tax and so forth. it would need to make economic sense to me. so it's either electric full size cars and trucks. or a second electric vehicle for the 80% of my life that i spend driving around town and dont need much cargo capacity or range. plus i live in the deep south, where its unbearably hot and humid 90% of the year, and colder than we normally are prepared for the other 10%. cycling is a non starter. i cant take my kid to school, i cant get groceries in it. i could go to work on a bike but am unwilling to arrive at work sweaty and tired.

This is all good for dense cities. It would be unworkable for most place in the world. You can't sustain a bus service when you'd have just a few passengers per hour

yeah electric cars are as space ineficient as normal cars. trains from trams to bullet trains along metro and light trains are the answer, they don't get stuck on traffic like buses or trams, they can carry a lot of people on a direct route(they can also diseabled and bicycle friendly), also they can be all electric without bateries. trams for small towns, metro for big cities, bullet train across cities far away; buses are better than nothing(mainly for suburbs and the edges of the cities), i think on cities over 1 million people must have a least 3 metro lines; Tokyo(13 lines), London(11 lines) and CDMX(12 lines) are good example of good public transit whit some level of walkability and cycling.

@@neverknowsbest4994 I am sick and tired of people making the “what about the countryside” argument. What about them? Just because a country is not car dependent doesn’t mean that you can’t drive cars in the countryside. Just look at how a lot of European country does it, they also have countrysides and dense citys, people drive cars when traveling in the countryside and used public transportation when in the cities. And in fact it’s usually even better to drive in these countries because the roads are better maintained since there’s less of them. I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand.

@John E This! And a lot of the work and ways of living sorta dictate such. Public transportation isn't any good if "afterhours" is a thing.... And crap tier connections where the closest drop off is 2 miles from the destination, and even then what's a 15 minute trip by car is 1-2 hours by bus on a clear day. The amount of overhaul needed to make public trasport even remotely enticing is mind boggling depending on locales.

I agree, and city planning can do a lot towards those goals, making it more comfortable even for the fewer drivers that can't choose to use a bike for example because of their payload .

Hell yeah we need more bike paths!

@@dextrodus Dutch cities are very good at this. A channel called Not Just Bikes has a lot of videos on the topic, and I really hope more cities throughout the world adopt this strategy.

It’s -20f with windchill where I am. Definitely not feasible.

Good for you, we’re not all rich like you that we can afford to not drive cars. Don’t let rich coastal elites make expensive decisions for you. Most of us can’t ride your tricycle to work as we live in cheaper areas away from city center

its non-renewable thanks to the lack of recycling as battery can be recycled to recuperate 80% to 95%+ of its raw materials. Its insane why there is a huge reliance mining while very few are working to recycle.

Tell this the green-EU-lunatics. They completely out of touch with reality.

…and that those batteries don’t last forever and are “non-renewable.” Trade some air quality in densely populated areas for massive holes in the Earth robbing it’s precious metals, then poising it with dying batteries years later? Nothing Green about it.

Well, then they are just as uninformed as people saying that EVs are worse for the environment than ICEs. It is extremely obvious that due to limitations imposed by basic science and reality, non-renewable minerals and metals will need to be mined, often in questionable conditions, and used for the green transition. Solar panels, wind turbines, batteries, everything uses these minerals in one way or another. It's unavoidable. Those materials will need to come from somewhere and often countries that have a lot of them are controlled by scumbags. BUT, it is still better than doing nothing and staying our current course. We just need to tolerate it for now while looking for and perfecting better solutions at the same time, i.e. natrium ion batteries. The question now is just like what the video asks in the end: how much bad should be allowed for the greater good?

@@gerhardaryawardana72 From what I read from people that have EV' s is not enough range,not enough power and they lose their charge too quickly operating in mountains and deserts,basically most of the same problems that existed with EV' s in the early 20th Century, EV's, imo are just not ready for prime time yet,ok for around town,but that's about it,this is not the kind of car you would be able to take the family on vacation in to the Grand Canyon, then there is the problem of recharging,it takes too long,not like a gasoline powered car that in 5 min you are refueled and back on the road,an EV takes from 6 to 8 hrs to get a complete charge,may as well get a motel room and wait it out,and if you charge at home,watch your power bill go sky high,the money you save on gasoline, that and much more may be spent on electricity and I don't want my tax money spent on installing charging stations, tax money wasn't used to install gasoline pumps,the oil companies or the people who owned the gas station did that themselves,let the EV industry do that themselves,and if everyone went to EV' s where is all of the electricity we will need come from? Electricity doesn't appear by magic,if we can't use nuclear, coal,hydro, natural gas or fuel oil, how will electricity be generated,wind and solar are not reliable,remember Texas when all of that froze up in the winter,imo,I just don't think it is ready for prime time yet,this hasn't been completely thought through,maybe in 50yrs,it seems like the people who want this,while they may be grown people chronologically, they think like a immature 5 year old.I am already 70 yrs old,so unless I live another 50 yrs,I don't think I will see this in my life time.

We should take a step back and ask: why does everybody need an electric car? Is there a from of transportation that can reduce our need for cars; like the EU's already mature transit system?

@@bellairefondren7389 From time to time, this is mentioned and often returns. An issue is that companies, jobs and schools don't begin and end at the same time. Then there is the number of people that works, go to a school. One company consists of ten employee, while other companies have hundred if not more. With schools, it's the same. Another option is that companies and schools bring and take their students and employees. I think that the problem stays. Transport in general will stay an issue. Including what would be used; Electricity, gasoline, gas, water, etc. No matter what product, it will always have a negative impact on nature. Personally, with electricity, it's even more devastating; the amount of water that is needed and the pollution of that water after being used. That water cannot be used anymore. I couldn't take out this docu if that water could be filtered. But lately, water is starting to get scarce. Imagine what will happen after 5 years. When electricity is obligated. The destruction of nature will be far worse. Now everything is more expensive, it will be more expensive when that day comes. More corruption, the gap between rich and poor won't be a gap. 2 worlds. Jealousy will be the norm. Still, I do think that it's wise to think about alternatives, but it is a very bad thing to see an alternative as the ultimate solution. History already have showed and proven it several times.

Maybe the "End Goal" is really fewer cars, less food production, and fewer 'useless eaters'.

@@leftrevolution7 So no where did I say transit is the "ultimate" solution. Not entirely sure what that would entail. I also don't think the complaint you brought up about start and end times being different is that big of a hurdle. You can run frequent transit throughout the day. If we want to reduce our overall energy footprint, creating walkable communities and expanding transit will need to be a major focus to of our infrastructure planning.

not really. your logic only works if cars were the only form of transportation known to exist. they arent. there is something called a train. there's also something called a bus. a bike. and legs, for walking

Or we could just keep driving our great ICE cars...

not just batteries its a problem with mining in general maybe when we get astroid mining we'll pollute earth less

Synthetic LPG Autogas basically Alkanes is way better than Hydrogen. It easier to ship transport and much more safer. It's already the 3rd most used light vehicle fuel.

"we do have to accept a certain amount of bad for the greater good." I understand the sentiment, but people need to be hyper-aware of the fact that this kind of logic has justified so much evil in the past. "The Greater Good" is subjective and changes according to the whims of the masses and their fears.

Public transportation, bicycles, walking... All of these pollute _far_ less than even the cleanest electric car and could replace most uses of cars in cities.

If there was any interest in making cars green, they would have focused on converting existing cars to run on hydrogen fuel.

@@kavky hydrogen is made from fossil fuels (at scale) - why would you convert a fossil fuel car to use another fossil fuel? The tiny amount of Hydrogen made from clean electricity takes 3x as much electricity per mile than an EV does, and costs 10x as much at retail as just plugging in at home.

@@brushlessmotoring Burning hydrogen produces only water.

@@kavky manufacturing hydrogen emits CO2 - hydrogen doesn’t exist by itself in large quantities, it exists as part of other things, mainly water, but also hydrocarbons. In order to produce pure hydrogen for a fuel cell you need to separate it, the most common (by far) and economical method is steam reforming methane, which emits CO2. Combusting hydrogen in an engine with air will still produce NOx emissions as well as water, and not a lot of power - it will make your 5 liter engine feel like 1 - if the conversion is even possible - it’s also proven very unreliable due to embrittlement. The only clean way to produce hydrogen, without CO2 emission is using electricity and electrolysis of water - but this - combined with a fuel cell to turn the hydrogen back into electricity takes 3x more energy per mile than just charging an EV does - at retail, green hydrogen is 10x more expensive per mile than domestic electricity in an EV. Hydrogen doesn’t make sense for transportation. It’s too low in energy density, too difficult to handle and too expensive to manufacture. EVs win on every metric, including environmental emissions.

@WhatsApp Unfortunately this concept is complete BS and has been debunked several times within the last years.

Yo hard g

I'd have to disagree. First of all the video focuses on EVs. Yet, more of these materials are needed for mobile devices and tools, than for EVs. Second, It frames the problem as new, current and pressing disregarding the fact that these problems have been criticized for 20 years. Unfortunately back then there was no one interested in the criticism since no one could use it for his anti EV argument. Furthermore, he's fantasizing about solid state, a tech promised to be "around the corner" in 2016, while post lithium tech and LFP batteries are already available or currently launching, but most importantly, this has been a delaying effort for years: "look, solid state is around the corner, better buy a combustion engine now and wait for solid state tech". Creating hopes for solid state is a fatal signal.. Then it completely disregards the fact, that there's almost a decade left to ramp up production and everybody in the industry is heavily investing in it. It just gives one especially bad example of trying to access new lithium sources, while there are many others. Lastly, the video makes it seem, like this is an EV problem but it's a systematic problem. Many materials hav similar if not worse mining conditions if not worse. Again, since nobody can use it as an argument against EVs nobody knows about this. The biggest problem of the century is not lithium. The biggest problem is the climate crisis and the misleading information and ignorance that prevents the world from acting on it, like it would be necessary. Disclaimer: i'm not saying these problems should be disregarded, only that nobody should think 'oh well, better stick to my diesel truck' because even though mining is bad, mining and burning oil is worse and with proper pressure, these problems can be solved.

Thank you for your erudite and well argued response, it has been most enlightening. @@kooooons

TOTAL BS. WHERE IS THIS BOOB GETTING HIS FACTS. FIRST, CO2 IS REQUIRED FOR LIFE ON THIS PLANET. AND CO2 MAKES TREES AND CROPS GROW BETTER.

Thanks Mom.😀

Check out Undecided with Matt Ferrell, he does stuff like this all the time

I wonder which company will rise from the production.

We are also apparently going through a battery revolution so maybe a solution can be found.

That was sort of my thoughts when the FCV’s really started up. My thought was “great we finally decided to stop being stupid”. Then BEV’s picked up instead and I knew we were still incredibly stupid.

its probably these issues that are the problems of why we arent moving to solid state batteries, economy of scale thing i don't beleive is a actual issue here. If a company like tesla believed they work and you can give them a price once they order x ammount of batteries per year, they can just move to it themselves and create that so called economy of scale. Problem has to be other things that need to be solved first.

supercapacitor power density is abysmal, and they have extremely high self discharge. they are extremely inefficient in almost every possible way.

@@TMS5100 supercapacitors would most likely be used for frequently storing small amounts of energy, for example you might store energy generated by regenerative braking in the supercaps and then discharge them for use by the motor, so they should be emptied by the time you want to use them again

I think really we need to invest into nuclear for constant electrical energy generation then use hydrogen as a form of "battery storage" for intermittent energy users (eg vehicles). The electricity gained from nuclear would go into our homes and businesses. Then we use the electricity to split H1's from H2O and use the hydrogen as a semi-permanent storage for vehicles, which periodically turn on an off and aren't running all the time. The issue I see is that the people with the money simply don't want to invest. It's going to have to come down to a "parallel economy" type situation or we're going to have to cater to them with prospect of earning even more money they they already have from existing procurement and storage methods. This mentality explains why Texas is more eco-friendly than California, which should be nonsense jibber jabber.

Scientific predictions about weather have historically been as wrong as religious predictions about the end times. The science is wrong. Co2 levels used to be higher than now in dinosaur times and life flourished because Co2 is plant food. Banning gas cars is tyranny.

@@eromod You seem to ignore a lot. The carbon dioxide levels were higher before, true. The issue is everything else, the context. Going from our levels of green house gas to way higher levels heats the planet. This makes climates change. A change in climates gives a change in circumstances for everything living. Real life example of context: if a dry area, say a place in the southwest of Asia, would get less rain as an effect of warmer air being able to absorb more water vapour (fewer clouds are formed). Less rain would make it hard for the plants to survive. This leads to what is called a drought. A decrease in available water which noticeably affects the life of the area. Droughts happen from time to time, but with a higher temperature it will happen way more. If fewer plants survive that means less food for whatever eats the plants, e.g. humans. Humans live in societies. They often want to stay in their society rather than move to another society. People have a sense of belonging to their home, both the location and its culture. In order for the society to be stable it tries to plan for bad things happening to its people. With a prolonged drought the government needs to find food for its people in other ways. If the people starves the government has to act quickly or a revolution is likely to happen. Hungry people are not planning for the long haul, it's do or die. A semi spontaneous revolution is bound to happen. A lot of different groups tries to take charge, since the straw that broke the camel's back wasn't a political one. The revolution was not politically driven. Civil war ensues. Syria is in shambles. Massive emigration, international aide that's military, monetary and humanitary. The change from one amount of green house gase to another lead to the war in Syria. Context matters. It isn't the absolute amount, it is the relative change. We've had ice ages, we've had warm periods. They came and went slowly. Now we have a rapid change. The context can't keep up with the change. Evolution of species take time so animals and plants have no chance to adapt. Humans have a chance, but capitalism and nationalism is impeding. Sea levels have risen and some people can't "go back to where they came from" because their home is playing with Atlantis, hiding under the ocean.

@@JaharNarishma Sea levels have risen? Just look up old picture of the statue of liberty compared to new pictures of the statue of liberty., The water level is the same! Plus, NASA said that in 2014, the north pole had the most ice ever recorded! All these climate "scientists" cant get their facts straight. First they said it was getting too hot, then they said it was getting too cold. Now they just call it "climate change" to say that the extreme temperature differences change. But if you look throughout history when life thrived, the temperature fluctuations are perfectly normal! CO2 is plant food and gas is a much better energy storage solution than current battery technology.

@@JaharNarishma Even if the sea levels did rise, its still moral to keep using oil because its such a superior energy storage solution. Yall could just move to Antartica because it would warm up enough to even farm and import from Canada for extra help.

@@eromodunfortunately, it's not as simple as 'move to somewhere that's cold right now but will be warmer as climate changes.' there is what's commonly called 'tipping points' in climatology, where once you pass certain threshold, the climate system either settles into a new state or into runaway instability due to positive feedback loop. 1. Conversion of ice sheets into water increases the albedo (roughly speaking, how much light/heat a surface absorbs; e.g. white surfaces absorb less light, dark surfaces absorb more light), which further drives temperature increase due to increased heat absorption. 2. Currently, the ocean is absorbing a lot of CO2 from the air, as evidenced by ecological consequences of ocean acidification reported around the world. However, gas solubility in liquid solvent decreases when temperature increases, meaning at some point, the ocean will start to release a huge amount of dissolved CO2 and currently stable methane deposits on the sea floor, exacerbating the greenhouse effect. 3. As average global temperature increases, rate of ocean evaporation also increases, and vapor is in itself a greenhouse gas, and so it will accelerate the temperature increase. While individual tipping point events may not in themselves be catastrophic (e.g. the loss of the entire antarctic ice sheet will add ~0.6C to global temperature), these tipping point events can form a cascading chain, and we don't know for sure when the cascade would end. For example we could end up like venus, where the greenhouse effect is so strong that the average surface temperature is over 400C/800F, which would make human survival impossible.

Why not just apply that logic to existing vehicles? Oil drilling doesn’t require this kind of environmental damage.

eBikes and eScooters have an even more carbon efficient version. Bikes and Scooters.

@@JayVal90 it would definitely help. The only issue is that gas-powered bikes and scooters can be very polluting due to more relaxed environmental rules for them, also they're really loud even vs gas cars. Manual bikes are good but not everyone can or is willing to sweat to go to work. eBikes and scooters seem to be the best of both worlds with no emissions and little to no sweat (unless you want to)

@@rustyslug2943 Bikes, yes, but not scooters. Escooters are, like electric cars, better than ICE ones. The expansion of production is difficult, but wouldn’t be required to such a scae with smaller batteries.

@@rustyslug2943 agreed. But not everybody wants or can use manual bikes/scooters for a multi-mile trip. If it's for transportation we want as many people as possible using them including grandmas, and people out of shape (like me). The good news is that they both use the same infrastructure so advancements for one help the other

Did you no watch the video . Solid state batteries

Yes climate change is real but governments mandating the potential ban of ICE is not the way to go for solving this crisis. There has to be another way.

Good point. 75% sounds like a stretch

@@Mrcharles. I loved cars since before I can even remember and now I research transport policy. Unfortunately there is no other way as of now. Just way too many people on earth to be using such inefficient machines to get around.

@@lastminutesolutions perhaps if the government had invested in other modes of transportation like high speed rail 50 years ago we wouldn’t have this problem.

all of the sources are in the description hope this helps

Too many people view the world through the lense of a city. Public transportation is horrifically ineffective on an individual level when you dont live in a city and when theres no biking infrastructure like Amsterdam you can't really bike.

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@@mayonnaiseluther1568 Most people live in cities. There will always be people out in the country but people in cities shouldn't have to drive. And yes a lot of cities don't have good infrastructure like Amsterdam. That's the point. We need to build it.

Goodluck in the next pandemic LOLOLOL

@@mayonnaiseluther1568 the Los Angeles metro, a horribly low density area, had a robust public transportation system before the invention of the car

Facts, he's really not on either, he just tells a really good story with great research.

If memory serves, many asteroids are plentiful in nickel for some reason, so that may be a good source if we can get to the point that we can get to it.

Or even Sodium-ion batteries.

the majority of the world's cobalt is used in refining diesel fuel. So switching to ev's will actually reduce demand for cobalt

Yeah i think tesla is actually using lithium iron phosphate for shorter range model 3s

Yes, and Tesla’s new 4680 batteries contain no cobalt. The volume and scale of these new batteries will truly be staggering.

this will help but there are still other problems to overcome

@@netrox1345 well the scale & complexity of the issues is so far-reaching someone could write a whole series of essays & you could 'still' say that at the end.

@@InnuendoXP if thats the case i can say anything:)

I wonder if a car sales tax based on weight would be effective at incentivizing smaller cars without restricting "freedom."

You can’t just wait until there is something better. And delaying the transition by another decade or two I hope solid state delivers. Also new lithium clay extraction techniques being tested out and that cobalt is practically phased out for EV batteries. Or that Nickel mines such as those in the Philippines are being transformed into more sustainable and ethical mining mostly due to tesla. How much bad for the greater good? How much bad and devastation are we causing by oil and fossil fuels ?

The manufacturers, including Tesla, of course, haven't designed their batteries for recyclability and replaceability--they want you to buy a new one. And no one's commercialized the post-consumer recycling process, yet. It's very difficult and expensive. If there's to be any semblance of "green" to this technology, then they need to prioritize recycling. This is *far* more important than most other forms of recycling, where there isn't a market for the materials, and most is just thrown away, instead--especially since China started refusing our recyclables for recycling. Ironcially, Tesla's ex-CTO and cofounder is the founder of Redwood, the only company recycling EV batteries--but that's 100% pre-consumer (manufacturing defects), and they are using a hybrid pyro/hydro solution that burns away much of the lithium and other materials. However, we need to use these batteries for as long as possible before recycling. I doubt there are any businesses that are purchasing used EV batteries for reuse currently, though. They could be useful for non-mobile usages, such as the grid. But, they'll never do that--at least not in the US.

Yes and also Australia alone has about 100 years worth of lithium supply at current rate, also in a method that is comparatively environmentally friendly to mine. It just costs more.

@@samuel999 source?

It was such a well made video

@@DyslexicMitochondria hey bro i watch your videos. Big fan of your channel

@@DyslexicMitochondria some comments pointed out there need to have more clarification on solid state part. Other than that , pretty informative video.

sounds like Wendover was a bit misinformed / not fully aware of the solid state battery topic and tradeoffs though 🤷‍♂️

AND COMPLETELY FULL OF UNMITIGATED LIES.

"is it worth to allow individuals to own guns" - that part? That mentality is absurdly inverted. Let me ask you: is it worth to allow you to own any capital? capital can be used for nefarious purposes. Let's keep you poor, it's safer. Let's keep you unarmed, it's safer.

@@piousboxI didn’t see anything about guns.

But... That's not what the video was about, so why would he?

@@brettvv7475 The video is about the problems with Lithium-ion batteries and solutions to them. One of the most effective solutions is to reduce overall dependency on (electric) cars, so that definitely fits in the discussion.

What i understand you to be saying is something akin to "switch to public transportation instead" And if that is the gist of what you mean, then i can say that'd most likely never work. From personal experince i'd fight tooth and nail to keep my ability to go where i want, whenever i want. And contiuning that line, even if one were to then make the arguement of taxi like cabs that'd come and get you. Well then that is so close to owning a car anyway so why bother? If i misundestod what you meant then please expand upon your idea :D

Sounds great if you live in a city. No one is going to create public transit to a ranch house 50 miles from city center.

That is typical for the average car-brain American. It's not their fault for growing up in car centric America, but a good look into large European and Asian cities would certainly change their perception that cars are just a terrible concept in terms of space and resources efficiency, but time as well.

They only cost this much because EV's arent as mass produced as combustion vehicles, in the future they will actually be cheaper to construct than combustion engines. as Graphene battery packs will cost a lot less than entire engine and transmission systems, with graphene being an extremely cheap material.

You don't care about the toxic chemicals, human slavery and environmental destruction that comes with EVs? They are significantly more harmful to the environment than ICEs and most of the EV can't be recycled. The battery just gets buried and a lot of the plastic isn't recyclable. EVs are a stupid dream.

@@ZingNovaVODS That's a big maybe

@@ZingNovaVODS the cost isn't the problem it's the thought that evs will somehow save the earth, they won't.

@@ZingNovaVODS Thats bullshit, ICE's are bone simple to make despite their "high number of moving parts" because EV motors need special metallurgy with tight hysterisis curves, wheras pistons, rods, and cranks need only be drop forged and ground. Tesla is as mass produced as any other car, economies of scale wont fix this problem my guy. The reality is this, ICE's are coming that are just as efficient as the turbines used to power the grid itself, and it will be cheaper to drive an ICE car than an EV, and indeed cheaper to run a generator than buy from the grid. The EV is a scam, full stop.

They know about it. Look up what the price would be to power any of those devices with a solid state battery. You'll find your answer there.

Mobile devices have significantly different requirements than for example automotive batteries and longevity is not one of them while at the same time others are colliding with longevity. One requirement is an extremely high energy and power density which is why still more cobalt goes into mobile devices, than in EVs, even though the produced storage capacity might be lower.

The manufacturers haven't designed the batteries for recyclability, and no one's commercialized the recycling process, yet. It's very difficult and expensive. If there's to be any semblance of "green" to this technology, then they need to prioritize recycling. This is *far* more important than most other forms of recycling, where there isn't a market for the materials, and most is just thrown away, instead--especially since China started refusing our recyclables for recycling.

@@RetroDawn it's coming. Most lithium used to be in laptop and cellphone batteries. It's only now that's it's in car batteries. Huge packs are easier to recycle. Cars as a waste product are very recycled. The plastics. The steel. The copper. Just about all the bits get used. Currently it's tens of thousands of batteries hitting the wreck lots per year. Not enough to sustain an industry. Give it 5 years-7 years. Tesla made 1 million this year. In 7 years that's a lot of batteries to recycle n Today we are recycling the batteries from their first few years. They were only making tens of thousands of cars then.

@@pierredelecto7069 We're not recycling any post-consumer EV batteries yet. Unfortunately, none of the EV manufacturers, including Tesla, are designing their batteries to be replaced, let alone recycled. They want people to just buy a new one. Ironcially, Tesla's ex-CTO and cofounder is the co-founder of Redwood, the only company recycling EV batteries--but that's 100% pre-consumer (manufacturing defects), and they are using a hybrid pyro/hydro solution that burns away much of the lithium and other materials. However, we need to use these batteries for as long as possible before recycling. I doubt there are any businesses that are purchasing used EV batteries for reuse currently, though. They could be useful for non-mobile usages, such as the grid. But, they'll never do that--at least not in the US.

@@RetroDawn I don't think there's many EV batteries even available yet. Even as scrap commodity the demand is high. People will search out crashed Teslas to re use the battery. Not recycle it. I was thinking that as millions of battery operated cars are retired each year, which will happen eventually, that at that point there will be enough supply to encourage an industry. First step to having a lithium recycling industry is having a huge source of lithium that needs recycling. I'm no engineer. Just a car guy.

@@RetroDawn Tesla actually has a recycling program of their own (as do every self respecting battery manufacturer ) but it’s quite small since not very many evs are of the road yet. But a good few thousand tons are recycled per year. It’s in their impact report.

But that would ruin the EV hit-piece narrative - funny how everyone is _suddenly_ wringing their hands over batteries now they are in vehicles - they never had a problem with phones and laptops, and no mention of cobalt usage in gasoline refining, or lithium in medicine. This is an Oil and Gas funded narrative to delay EV takeup and make sure we continue to burn fossil fuels and pollution the atmosphere, this video, and it's plastic wrapping sponsor, are not interesting in climate change.

Phosphate is the single biggest limit to life on earth. Shifting from cobalt to phosphate would put even more strain on global food production. It's also not green to mine and most deposits contain a decent amount of radioactive products. There are huge superfund sites all over Florida from phosphate mine tailings.

They have a lower energy density, but are superior in just about every other way.

@@brushlessmotoring Cars use a LOT more lithium than any phone or laptop. Like, a LOT more. Multiply that by the sheer number of cars in the US, let alone the world and you have an exponential increase in lithium demand over phones, laptops etc. The science is there. We will be creating a new problem while we solve our current one. This is why I can't stand the "EV's are awesome" narrative. EV's are nice, they have upsides and help solve a current problem but god damn, people are blind to the new problems we are going to create/make much worse.

Probably because the problem of lithium still exists. It’s a step in the right direction but making it sound like it’s the ultimate solution is still not good. Lithium mining especially in less developed locations is notoriously poor for the environment. And expanding the mines will simply make the problem worse. Sam was showing the problem with lithium ion batteries and lithium production. Solid state batteries were brought up because with time they are a viable solution. LFPs aren’t.

not in the biggest producer Chile.. do some research.

@@petesmitt I’ve seen a picture of an open pit mine that’s in Chile where there’s mining of the lithium material for the electrical vehicles.

@@moa3008 Chile is the largest producer of lithium and all I could find was an open pit mine run by BHP in the middle of the desert area where Chile produces lithium; but it's a copper mine, not lithium..

@@petesmitt I wasn’t sure about that. There’s a local indigenous group living in the area that have been complaining about the water; and land pollution; that is a problem with open pit mining for any kind of minerals.

@@moa3008Lithium in Chile is extracted from brine via huge surface lakes that use a lot of water, which is a big environmental impact for a desert area. Nothing to do with open pit mining though..

because this was an anti EV hit piece? No mention of any context around other methods of transportation propulsion, just lots of scary 'look! bad things!' around batteries used in EVs (but not batteries used in other devices for the last 20 years - which, even now, are the far greater users of Lithium, Cobalt and Nickel)

@@brushlessmotoring Not a hit piece. He says the quantities needed are about to go vertical and explains the trade offs. It was balanced.

@@KayAteChef not without talking about the impacts of our current solution - Oil - without context about why we need to make the change, it's just a vague anti-change piece. Nothing is perfect, and we need to act now - the transition to EVs is already going to take too long, trying to wait another decade with vague promises about solid state batteries is harmful.

@@brushlessmotoring The impression that I got was that we had to shift volume now to achieve economy of scale. No delays.

@@KayAteChef I have not seen solid state at scale - if it were possible, there would be crazy thin phones and smart watches with it in already - maybe premium price points - but for certain applications, there is a market for the benefits they tout - so where are the products? Dyson hung his hat on having solid state in his new EV - he had to first change that position when it was clearly not possible - then abandoned the whole project. Where is the luxury super thin fast charging Apple Watch ‘Rich Dude Edition’ with a solid state battery in it? They made a gold for 10 grand, don’t you thing they would have offered something similar by now? And if they can make it at low volume tiny cell luxury watch volume, how are they going to scale it to a car? It took 49 years for lithium ion to go from lab, to military use, to expensive consumer electrics to expensive small battery vehicles to eventually mid priced electric vehicles and probably another 5 to 10 to get to affordable electric vehicles. Solid state is still in the lab. Tell me what product you can but with a solid state battery in it and I’ll change my mind.

Just get a bigger hole

@@potatojake197 you would know

depends if its cylindrical or prismatic

@@6z0 as a matter of fact you're right

I've seen women swallowing bigger "things", some of them with batteries inside.

This is why I think fusion power is our road to post scarcity.

Maybe it'll work when your population density is 100x ours lol

Good luck with that in Central Europe. I was travelling by bus in Hungary last summer and the journey took 3 times as much as by car. Also I just saw in the news that in Slovakia where I live they had to cancel multiple trains and busses because of the lack of drivers.

No wonder why much of the hate against EV's I see comes from the US where we *still* have few plans to offer much in the way of public transit, even within cities

The electric buses and electric bicycles will also increase lithium demand

@@cpufreak101 Americans arent anti EV. Charging is the problem. F-150 sells like hotcakes, so price isnt an issue for all. when your car takes 150kw, but its charging at half due to temps or charger issue??? I see PHEVs succeed in U.S. no need to build chargers and modify your electrical system at home as most PHEVs draw 16amps. Upgrading to 200 amps can cost up to 20K if lines are underground.

I interviewed a top energy expert on my home page vid. A must watch interview. The expert warns that EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced

@@ChannelNews1 Lithium batteries as they are including the problems with solid state batteries which cannot be recharged... kind of a big problem.... doesn't help the conventional cobalt lithium nickel batteries are dangerous in that they develop dendrites that short out the battery causing thermal runaways and battery goes up in sparks... lithium just as all alkali metals react (burn) in contact with water. Still makes me giggle on all the various EV's that go up in flames, that fire fighters are puzzled why it keeps burning for days and even weeks after the initial start, when they're literally trying to put the fire out with water. EV also doesn't solve the solution of where we get that energy either, but tries to centralize to a power plant producing the electricity. So it pushes the problem to central power plants. Nuclear is really the only option. Even if you think a hydrogen fuel cell cars. And trains... lots and lots of trains. And city level, regional, and long distant trains. Better than driving and often more efficient as it cuts down on traffic jams. Easy to achieve economy of scale. And can electrify them using a nuclear power plant or solar or wind or hydro non carbon electric grid to power the rails. Individual mode of transportation used when required in super rural areas, and of the individual car, right now the best option for now is hybrid reducing the amount of fossil fuels used. And maybe hydrogen fuel cells... problem with hydrogen, similar to that of lithium EV cars, is that it's dangerous. Hydrogen has immense energy density; highest of all other materials. But with such an energy density, it has extreme explosive potential. H2 released and mingled with ambient atmospheric gas becomes extremely explosive; irony the biproduct other than heat is H2O... but the explosive energy can tear a garage or house apart in a second... H2 mixed with the O2 in the atmosphere, a tiny ignition sources as a spark from just static electricity... and boom. The problem is real. And at present moment I can only see that nuclear would be the best way forward in order to maintain our energy needs for our current tech. And of nuclear; both the current uranium plants can be made safer, and there are other new potential methods to make thorium and even uranium plants not require pressurized cores eliminating the chance of a meltdown incident. Waste is the problem, so there needs to be discussion and commitment to where to place that waste material... and not spend billions and decide that there's contention against placing it in that location.

@@jmitterii2 thanks for that. Can you please repost this on my home page vid? There are many commenting in there with the same silly arguments and that would be a great reply to them.

Big if true

LiFePo4 (LFP) technology has it's place but it is larger and heavier for the same amount of energy delivered so it will only ever work in a class where those properties fit the engineering solution.

now imagine that demand in 2030 when everyone gets home from work and wants to charge there cars! lol

Jesus Christ in almost all North American cities 90% move around in cars. That's insane

Bi coastal population, spread over a continent with vast plains in the middle. *That* is what’s unique about the US (and Canada), and the transportation and residence situation flows from all that.

@@Nill757 that makes sense for the mid west and rockys. But on the east coast, south and around the Great lakes you have about 2/3 of the population and with a fairly good pop density. Sure, Las Vegas and Salt Lake city probably rely more on highways to function, but there is no excuse when cities like Miami, Atlanta and Charleston work solely on personal cars

@@nazarenoperezpelicon947 Huh? Atlanta has 48 miles of subway train w 30+ stations, and a huge bus service. How is that only cars? Miami is on the ocean, water table in your face. What exactly do you expect them to do, knock down all the buildings to run surface trains?

@@Nill757 No. Most cities were buldozed to make space for cars in the 50s and 60s. It didn't use to be this way and the US used to have a world-class public transit system before WWII for example

Yes. Rhymes with Bend Over but without any negativity.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Coal has proved itself time and time again.

@@vivigesso3756 except the part where we kill our planet

@@vivigesso3756 I'm not sure if steam engines in cars is the way to go. But hey, maybe there's a green miracle waiting in that 1700s tech.

@@Skasaha_ Steam cars work remarkably well, if it wasn't for the whole waiting 15 minutes for your car to warm up every time you need it thing. Need groceries? 15 minutes, need to take the groceries home? 15 minutes... Other than that steam actually drives cars pretty well. Would be easy to run them on diesel or natural gas too.

Unfortunately, sodium has way more safety issues than lithium. It ignites easier, and the chemistry is decades behind lithium :/

Exactly. The automotive industry's lobbyists GUTTED public transport in America.

No, thanks. I'll keep my big yard, big house and big car. I live in a very car dependent city and I LOVE it.

@@Hjernespreng there is some nuance to it, the US is huge and impractical for public in many areas due to low population density. However I do agree with you in many areas (such as where I grew up, in the suburbs of Indiana)

@@davidturner4076 agreed.

Or... There's an alternative-- don't ban fossil fuels. We can also invest in synthetic fuels or hydrogen.

The solution : stop the global warming scam.

one word: electrofuels. there is literally no point to EVs anymore. ice cars remain our best option

Missed BIGGEST problem with Lithium batteries 🔋 🤔 🧐 = Not recyclable! ♻️🔥🗑

@@bthemedia But they are - at least the ones used for electric vehicles. The ones used in consumer electronics ............. people tend to throw away, but only because they can't be bothered/don't realise the damage they are doing. Oil, used as fuel is definitely not recyclable, yet few seem to raise this as an issue and seem to think that burning it in our vehicles is OK.