Hope youre doing better today :) Hang in there, it does get better 😊

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Hope all is good, god bless.

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God bless you mate.

Awesome story!💙🖤

Was he one of the two guys that started Jabo? If it was, he knows my cousin very well, she worked for them and helped grow the company worldwide.

@@anomicxtreme --- no, he stayed in the production manager capacity as troubleshooter. He had a friend who was THE go to guy in the board building industry if your company was losing money and the owners or board members wanted to spend a bunch of money they hired this guy and he had power to hire and fire anyone in order to make a company profitable again and he would go around the country and spend maybe 6 mos or a year figuring out where the problems were in these companies and he had multiple degrees and was seriously a genius and he taught my brother most of what he needed to know to be the best production manager and this guy would get hired by comanies like Texas Instruments, Teradyne, Gould, just to name some I remember, and when he got settled in he would then tell the owners that they were losing money in whatever department and if they were losing in processing department he would then hire my brother to come in and figure out where in the process system they were screwed up. Why their boards weren't passing inspections, whether it was in photo, or cad, or laminating, etching, drilling, wherever, my brother could and still can look at any circuit board, and figure out what is wrong with it. So he and his friend traveled atound the country fixing companies or setting up board manufacturing divisions of companies that wanted into the business. But once they did what they needed they moved on to another company until my brother got tired of moving every year to another state. He was only in his late 20s and decided to stay in Silicon Valley around 1988 and worked for big and small companies doing prototypes, exotics and specialty boards. Then he burned out in his mid thirties and learned to restore and install hardwood floors. Total 180° turn in trades. He worked on old Victorians in the Bay Area with his own business for around 20 years. Board shops would still call him a couple times a year to consult or troubleshoot their processes when they had a batch of boards they couldn't get right and he'd walk in and sometimes he could just look at one of the boards and he would know immediately what was wrong with it and he would need a day to figure out why it was messed up and he'd figure that out set that particular process right, run a few boards through the whole process and test them and make any adjustments in whatever department and get it right and charge a bunch of money and go back to working on hardwood floors. That businesses, board and chip/wafer processing is and was moving so fast, and the technology changes daily and the amount of money being made or being lost on a daily basis (millions per day) the pressure from the owners on a production manager is insanely intense and to try to stay at the top of the industry is not possible for very long especially when everything started going micro and nano. A person cannot keep up with the new developments at the pace that things were changing during the 2000s. You could keep up if you were given time to go back to school and by that time the industry has changed again. That industry was killing my brother. He was 17 when he got in the business as a driver. By the time he was 21 he was one of the best in the business of producing top tier custom and prototype small batch military and exotic materials board building. About 17 yrs he did that.

@@lp8650 --- I see exactly what you are saying or I should say I'm picking up what you're puttin' down. LOL I see no benefit in the refinement if it is already .99999 24k gold. I think he is doing the process just for the chemistry method to show people that it is possible to take raw or scrap gold (of any karat or mixed with other material) and break it down, get the other valuable minerals separated and the worthless crap separated as well, and then the processes of then the refinement and then turning it into an ingot or bar. I think he uses 24k because it is straightforward for people who may not understand the differences in gold refinement? I can't remember if he started this video with a bunch of scrap jewelry of plated and filled etc... and then did the processes of bringing it up to 24k or if that was a different video.

are major bullion companies so stingy they make certain their coins are about 99.91% so you ... never get more than you paid for?

Be careful, your carpentry wood may catch on fire.

Start small. Start easy. First steps to walking are tenious little baby steps after all.

It is fun, and not as daunting to get set up for an introductory experiment as you make it sound. Firstly you don't even need a power supply to start with simple reactions. You can weakly plate copper onto steel by dipping a piece of steel in a solution of copper sulphate, sold as root killer in most hardware stores. You can also electrolitically clean metalc surfaces like copper or silver, with a weak vinegar and salt solution, and 9v battery. You can grow copper and tin crystals crystals the same way, but for tin you first make tin chloride and use that as your electrolyte.

​@@nunyabisnass1141 many more Blessings to U Sir ❤

My and my mate used to make hygrogen and oxegen with with nothing but a pair of wires, 2 nails, a jam jar and a power socket (extreamly dangerous btw, do not do this). You don't need much more to do it safely, just a cheap powersupply and you're rolling. You'll not be able to refine/plate with gold or silver, but you'll be able to at least start learning stuff and dip your toes into electrolosis.

@@DaftyBoi412 yes I used 5v 2A USB chargers successfully for plating copper. I used copper wire as (+) and the workpiece as (-) as a electrolyte I used HCL hydrochloric acid. Very simple setup. No need for any copper sulphate And of course standard batteries AA to plate with gold and silver, graphite (pencil) electrode

Good suggestion, thank you.

but wont that lower surface area?

he did that last time

Reading this as the banana comes out of the roller 😂in my real view time

@@dynorat12 no, that was the cathode he had setup like that

Cyanide leaching sounds like the most time and cost effective method. I think I’ll start with that.

I wish they were teaching this at school when I was there .

Can you explain what is in the orange 🍊 solution for electrolytes?

Orange = chloroauric acid (gold chloride) or (gold dissolved in aqua regia)

@@sreetips sreetips you use alot of chemicals in your refining. Are they typically expensive to acquire?

Yes

I didn’t know that gold could be welded.

I used to work in a macinist/welding shop. Per the hi tech welder had, you can weld any metal. He welded a big copper cooling head for NASA, die to complexity it was machined in 2 parts and welded with the big welder and #4 copper ground wire.

I wonder if a spot welder would work, or maybe the gold would be too conductive to allow it to heat up enough

@@DavidWilliamsisslpdave "you can weld any metal" Good luck with some of them, especially Hg.

@@apveening At -100 C, a small jet of hot air would melt just enough of it to work like a welding torch

So start really high and then lower it for easy removal

@@nothingnothing1799 -Or maybe the opposite? Start low so you get a poor powdery deposit on the cathode that will detach easier later, and then crank it up so the rest of it sticks to the poor deposit, and when you're done pull it all off in one piece since the innermost part will be poorly attached.- nvm, I'm dumb.

@@williambarnes5023 low current produces the stronger composition and high current produces the powdery deposits, so starting high would make the base layer crumbly Edit: np I honestly had to reread it a couple of time to make sure I hadn't made the mistake

@@nothingnothing1799 I'm sorry, you're right. I read that completely backwards somehow. Thank you for the correction.

So slow and steady low current from beginning to end, no need to ever hit it with high Currents

Rod has less surface he just needs to put a tapper on the cathode he is using right now

How thin could you go on the titanium sheet to get the most surface area and gold crystal yield?

The titanium was about 1/32 inch thick

Corning is in charleroi PA. I used to live there my mom in law retired from there about 10 years ago

Have you made gold I wish I could perfect this

I’ve refined the gold, electrolytically.

Refined, this isn't a process to create gold from basically scrap is it?

what do you know, noob

No , refining is making it more pure you may even loose a few grams

Cool teacher, nice..

When you love your job, it’s hard to leave it. I have another turbine blade. I’ll trim it up to the specs you gave and I’ll repeat this in a future video. It was easy to do and the gold is very high purity.

I'm going to need you to explain that in further detail lol

Why don't people do this all the time then? Seems like a money printing machine

@@trillionairebyinflation8527 I want to know that too. Am I missing something?

Same…is the gold of a different quality?

Yes, it’s higher purity once electrolytically refined.

​@@trillionairebyinflation8527 I'm also curious why people wouldn't do this all the time, and he hasn't really answered the question... is it because it's too dangerous? is it not cost effective? does it cost more to acquire the equipment and raw materials than you would earn by selling the gold?

I'm sorry u got a divorce. U was about that lifestyle and all them hoes and I would had be loyal to til death u fucked all that up and I'm not like them I'm not running back to u .

Use amps or milliamps per square centimeter. Also the anode and cathode should be parallel to each other or there will be uneven deposition. Corners that are closer have more current concentration since distance between these is smaller. Should have a lab grade thermometer so cell temp can be monitored and kept constant. Keeping a constant current control with your power supply, but watch for a steady rise in voltage which would mean electrolyte exhaustion.

Large commercial refiners use alternating anode/cathode plates suspended in a tank of silver nitrate electrolyte. These are called “thumb cells.” I am operating a moebius silver cell with the distance being equidistant between the anode basket and the cathode (stainless bowl). I’m a small hobby refiner.

I may refine my electrolytic gold refining equipment and process. I liked the high purity gold that it produced. I think that some movement of the electrolyte is necessary to prevent depletion at the cathode. If the gold ions get depleted at the cathode then other metals could begin to co-deposit, if they are present in the electrolyte. But if I do this then I’ll probably use high purity gold anodes to begin with. I may even try running the four nines gold back through the cell for a second pass. Try for five nines. This experiment has got me interested about electrolytic gold refining.

99.9% versus 99.99% is a mere margin of .09%, your talking .9 cents in the dollar..! What's the mark up on covid shots..? 😂

​@@nuggetellathere's a huge premium paid for super pure precious metals for special applications in electronics and optics among others

​@@nuggetellawho taught you math? Lol. It's a difference of 0.0009. And it doesn't matter: do you know that that small of a difference of a chemical in our organs can kill us? It's not arbitrary.

I am also concerned that the melt dish used to produce the 0.9999 pure bar wasn't completely virginal or in pristine & new 'factory clean' condition. Any informative thoughts you may have to allay these concerns would be greatly appreciated if not completely helpful.

This sounds like the terminator (Arnold) at the gun store asking for a phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

​@@sreetips its as easy as stripping a USB charger

@@sreetipsis this legit?

@@kanepritchard5831 At a glance, it seems legit, 1.5V sine wave with 0.5V DC offset will have a range of -1V to 2V, the negative portion reverses the process, dissolving the gold on the cathode, but it should affect the smallest crystals more, so that the larger crystals are left behind.

It’s a little over my head.

SEM - scanning electron microscope. I’ve got a couple experiments that could be interesting if I had access to one.

Fantastic idea.

And stream while you make them on twitch. You’ll have million subs

The silver crystals are absolutely beautiful!!

I wonder if you can make a profit from it???

No or else everybody would

The silver electrolyte is a nitrate. The gold is a chloride. I don’t think the chloride will work with stainless.

omg id love that

I agree.

More interesting to see them in my hand!!!

Yeahhhhh it sure would be interestin to see them damn crystals up n close to my face…yup real interestin, need my sweet tea

Possibly

It’s got me very interested. I may refine the equipment and start using this for future refining. The titanium cathode was a big plus, finding that it works well.

@@sreetips I’d be very interested in the results using an impure gold bar as the source of AU vs the pure gold bar like this one, would it operate the same as the silver cell/ wohlwill cell you have operated, will the impurities displace like in the silver cell or will it not work? I’d assume use 18k solid gold cast bar as the anode, 🤷 would that even work, or do you need all AU in solution? 👀👀👀 so many questions

The book calls for 980 parts per thousand pure gold, or better. 14k, at 583 parts per thousand, or 10k at 417 parts per thousand, would quickly foul the electrolyte. If I continue doing this then I’ll use high purity gold anodes to ensure the highest purity. Otherwise it defeats the process of using the cell.

@@sreetips got it

The molten gold would get welded to the titanium.

Just for future reference, never try to melt a metal element from another metal element. Whichever has the lowest melting point (Au in this case) will obviously melt, but the Higher melting metal (Ti in this case) will just be that perfect warm temperature for the molten element to stick to... think how fabricators pre heat work beforehand etc.

I’ve noticed that folks are more impressed by the silver cell.

Now that’s a good idea.

And give it a taper

I could put platisol around the edges of the titanium cathode. Maybe it would release better for me.