Hey everyone! Are there any people from Budapest, Hungary, or Hungary in general? I am thinking to form a little community of people who are interested in John's lectures and like-minded people like Jordan Hall or Jonathan Pageau. I find these really fascinating topics and it would be nice to talk to others about it, maybe even in person. Please leave a reply if you are interested, and I appreciate any upvote to keep this visible. (please let me know if this kind of comment is not wanted, and I stop)

This is my favorite series. Lecture series, book series, movie, show, whatever. This is the best one.

Man, I just fkn love this series. Looks like it helps me integrate all my pre-existing psycho-technologies, and potentially create new ones for me and others, into a dynamic solution that might actually solve most of my problems. I fkn love you, John! You are a blessing!

This is awe-inspiring. John Vervaeke is the final boss of the intellectual dark web.

The culmination of this series to this crescendo is a tour de force. We now have a reference and an image of how to cultivate the inner sage or sages. For me, Vervaeke's voice sits at that roundtable.

Hi John. I had taken a pause from this series while staying up to date with other material from you and Pageau and, while watching this video, I felt the urge to stop and write this: thank you. Thank you for the immense amount of care and precision with which you've categorized and rearranged the vast knowledge and wisdom that you've acquired through the years. It's of unspeakable value. I see how much love has been poured over each mark on the whiteboard. I feel blessed to have crossed your work. God bless you John.

I’ve been watching these videos on Sat morning after they drop. And I’ve noticed repeatedly at certain points in each episode as John starts to trigger insights in me I get this deep sense of well-being. I physically feel it around my heart. It’s something related to contentment but also growth. Sorry hard to articulate but I felt the need to share.

John John John.... thank you. This work is truly excellent.

12:00-13:00 'People are trying to articulate something real with their/these pseudo-arguments' is such a great summary of the necessity of discussion from a point of charity ... thank you John

Here I was watching this episode, and I realized that as of today its been exactly 2 years since this episode was published. Everything about this feels special, the series is so enriching. Thank you JV!

Dear John. I am visually impaired, and I would love it if you could remember to always speak the words out loud when you point to them on the blackboard since I am unable to read what it says. Thank you.

I deeply appreciate YOUR time JV ❤️🍄 you bring about a new found understanding of what I’m thinking about alot this series. I quit my job dec 31 2021 and decided to take a mental break from life but than February freedom convoy happened and i watched the entire show through live streams and found a “comunitas” as you put it. But i also witnessed a horror and I’ve been existentially entrapped since in a combitorial explosion i have been labeling it “a set of dominos falling” i still am cause it sums it up easier for my listeners(1-2 people) but i see alot of things that make sense and i throw them i to my pot and try and form who i am from that and im not sure if i am even making sense of that anymore… i play with this madness in hopes i will become alright but when i turn in application forms to a new job blank cause i trust my self deception to show me what I really should be doing in my life more and im not sure if thats heart or gut or mind making that anxious decision for me to stop people pleasing and be patient with myself untill I definitely defeated the “dragon” or else i end back here a year or two from now. So I deeply appreciate this series of lectures and understanding you have formed i do hope I finish this and conquer my inner wars. I just lack the ability to ponder and than have a dialogue about that so i feel mad at times and melancholic in other times. P.S i also am embarrassingly poor with my grammar and punctuation but just haven’t time to unlearn it proper in my chaos so I appreciate all that don’t cut me down for my flaws

Ah finally This episode is the one I have been waiting for since the beginning Finally everything is connected now, it makes sense why I had to watch all the other episodes, because all of that was building up to this After watching this episode, it gives me more motivation to go back and study the previous episodes even more deeply

Never apologize for metaphors!💕

My great aunt laura has a conspiracy theory about grandma. She believes that my great aunt linda moved grandma's dead body in the cemetery from one part of the cemetery to another. They have been fighting for 20+ years over this. The Absurd nailed it for me. 😊 . Sending love, and honor 💜.

This episode is evidently where it all starts! Still plugging away while I have time and really enjoying it. Thanks John. Also at 38:00 when you say you "try" to get into the flow state... My man, you are so far into the flow state in all of these lectures, it shines so bright it's blinding and inspiring. 👏👏🙏

If 34 was my least favorite, 37 is my most, so far. Not sure where to access the show notes (I don't find them on UKposts) but I watched twice and made my own (a first). I feel hopeful.

Why does this video only have 20,000 views in 3 years? I hope more people discover that learning can be more that just a ritual that needs to be done to procure a job.

Thank You!

If anyone needs a transcript we've made them for this & all episodes here: www.meaningcrisis.co/ep-37-awakening-from-the-meaning-crisis-reverse-engineering-enlightenment-part-2/

This is a remarkably fair and balanced depiction of the events. I’m surprised, CBC. Credit where credit is due. However, I still hold CBC in contempt for its shambolic coverage of the pandemic in general.

Polymath Park NOTES! O [Optmization] Parasitic processing (always re-wires itself “if you try to one shot it”, kind of like coming out of talk therapy and only remembering one catchy maxim. Self-reflection ----> reflectiveness gap ---> flow state Modal conf Develop by functioning ----> existential inertia, existential ignorance Function by developing ------^ The gnostics talked about this paradox as existential entrapment. L.A. Paul and Agnes Callard?? On her book on aspiration. This is talking about the issue of never being able to have the questions about our existence fully answered by any one philosophy. This instills what is known as Existential Humility, as opposed to domicide, I suppose. The Buddha talked of the Goldsmith. Gold is valuable, the mind is valuable. Gold is fun to look at, but that does nothing. The goldsmith melts it down (high dose psychedelics/religious ritual/transformative experience), then he must forge it, shaping it. It becomes “as he says, ‘weildly’, you can wield it, it fits in your hand well”, it adorns you properly, etc. This reminds me of stone wrapping, and how I felt that everyone should try it, give it a good go and see what they can create. The reflectiveness gap and flow. Your attention is simultaneously bottom-up from features and top-down from the gestalt. Spinosa talked about how we have an intuitive knowledge. If you practice the ethics, you see the meta-argument in each premise. Prajna- a self-liberating state of wisdom, as DT Suzuki says “A state in which you’re simultaneously looking in as deep as you can and looking out as deep as you can. Vervake says “Practice scaling down to the farthest extent, the pure consciousness event (that meditation taps into) and scaling up to this sense of profound, resonant at-onement with everything” IDENTITY AND THE SAGE/ANXIETY/OCD/COGNITIVE NEUROSCIENCE/EVOLUTIONARY NEUROSCIENCE: Internalizing the sage, and indwelling the sage. [keep sage form] The state of “indwelling” meaning the pen example1, where you’re tapping around a cup trying to identify the object with just a pen instead of your hand or eyes. This is what we’re doing with our incorporation of philosophical maxims, protocols we try to adopt. This is also a big part of CBT, and any talk therapy, one has to introspect deeply to integrate the lessons and have a discourse with the self. Then, when the moment arises, they must choose to walk away from the fight. They must put forth genuine effort to call upon their “thought police”, always keeping their thoughts within boundaries (CBT). This also brings to mind Ian McGhilchrist’s work on split brain theories, and how it seems to suggest that much of conversation may be taking place as a trade off between the logical, framing left brain and the more out-of-the-box-thinking right brain. NOTE! (Remember, this does not suggest that people can be wholly “left brained logical” or “right brain creative”, that logic is ancient and flawed. We are very necessarily both. All of my studies in psychology, psychiatry(paranoid schizophrenia), linguistics in neuroscience, evolutionary neuroscience, CBT, and philosophy all seem to converge on this concept of having a relative dichotomy between the hemispheres of the brain. Furthermore, that that dichotomy can begin to lean over time as a person develops (due to ecological impression, not from genetics), or one side may become over excited due to a spike in neural activity causing paranoid delusion/split personality disorder/auditory hallucinations (schizophrenia). All this relies on the corpus callosum connecting the two hemispheres. He says that Jacob hill is trying to “get coherence, a kind of communitas, that is directed towards engaging the collective intelligence of distributed cognition (remember that most of our real-world problem solving, contrary to the bs we tell ourselves like we’re self made individuals), most of our problem-solving is done in concert (serious play, concert music) so he extends towards a state of coherence in which we are creating a kind of communitas that is marshalling distributed cognition and its collective intelligence for simultaneously freeing us from the ways in which we are boxed in (like the 9-dot problem) by our historical -cultural cognitive grammar, access the other kinds of knowing, and bring that to bear on the problems that we are facing.” We’re seeing a whole “set of practice for bringing out authentic discourse that can really address the issues of alienation.” I’m glad to say I’ve personally observed a relative surge in this area as well. SUMMARY: Perennial Problems! 1. Religio - the processes that make us adaptive intelligently also make us vulnerable to self-deception and self-destruction 2. Address parasitic processing with a counter-active dynamical system 3. Address modal confusion with cultivation of Sati 4. Addres reflectiveness gap with cultivation of flow 5. Absurdity with prajna Anxiety with a process of internalizing and indwelling the “sage” (keep sage form) Alienation with communitas, this just seems like a fancy way of saying “get past a feeling of alienation by not alienating yourself by going out and dern.t” Enlightenment is the ameloriation and alleviation of these Perennial problems. These got danged paradoxes of the human condition.

The second half of this lecture really rung some bells... especially the mentioning of the scientia intuitiva. It actually caused a physical reaction. Goosebumps, yet I am unable to say why at this moment.

First! Soooo Excited!! :-) I just caught up on this series a few days ago and I'm so glad I have the day off to watch the Fri. release!! I've been interested in philosophy/theology/Yoga/Buddhism for most of my life and this is probably the best video series I've seen on such topics .I also recently got interested in Psychology (Jung) semiotics and the addition of cognitive science is just a dump truck of cherries on top!! I can't thank you enough for doing this!!!

Great lecture John, but l would add a few things such as understanding our dysfunctional attachment styles, increasing our emotional intelligence and working with maladaptive emotional schemas, dismantaling body armoury, opening up parasympathetic shutdown, stabalizing sympathetic flight, working with emotional dead spots, dealing with dissociation, splitting and trauma and most importantly of all intergrating your inferior function or your shadow personality type.

I Watch your lectures in “lectura divina” mode

John I really think if you made your structural, functional, developmental diagram into an app or book or evolving blog or something you would have the makings of the religion that's not a religion. Implicit in the wisdom practices are the different types of knowing and the use of psycho technologies layed bare, practical and ready for use.

Thank you John 🙂💚

wow. taoism as religion of flow. never thought of it this way! but it is!

Thank you, Professor....

At around 18:00 John mentioned the complexity of mapping out how the perennial problems interact. Before that he gave some examples though. I wonder if there are archetypical interactions that people could use to identify themselves or others so they knew what practices (which solve those specific problems) they needed to incorporate into their lives.

Wonderful. And I love the no yelling. : )

I believe it is worth it to be careful of reciprical narrowing here. In trying to set the foundation for enlightenment, there are many paths to be agknolaged. When you mention Socraties, Aristotle, Jesus as potential gurus, I think it imporant to mention a more diverse group. Socraties, Jesus, Muhammad, Sidhartha, Lau tzu, maybe even Eckhart Tolle or Deepak Chopra, to name just a few more. I am deeply interested in your work. As I haven't finished this series, I will refrane from commenting more. I think you are aware of this already, but I will still mention it - The more specific you get, the more people will have to exaptat your process to their worldview. Love you John, thank you.

Thanks John.

47:57 I think there may be another answer for anxiety especially social anxiety that involves a combination of self love practices and an almost Taoist belief in "doing by not doing" by being truly authentic to who you are every moment. I guess this could also be a version of the sage as well. Your sage would be someone that represents the love you wished you had for yourself. The only challenge with the sage I fear, is what if the sage we want to be isn't compatible with who we truly are? It might be better to start from a place of truly understanding, accepting, and loving yourself first, so that you then become your own sage, you want to live as the best version of yourself. Once you've made some headway in that direction, you can start being that person for as many moments in as many situations as possible. Once you start having success as your best self, you no longer doubt it's possible, and anxiety is gone. You've found a tool to beat it. And that's all anyone needs in any fight. A tool and a little success.

45:00 ~ 47:00 Would the UKposts equivalent of Lectio Divina be *Spectio Divina* ? Because I think that's what I'm doing with this series.

“The eye by which I see god is the same eye by which god sees me.”

nice

41:52 Addressing absurity

I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated

Hi John, 1st thanks for the videos, them are really really good. 2nd I wanted to ask if you have a complete list of book to read in order.

There is a white chapel across the street from a beautiful and prestigious University. Down the block a man stands next to his home on the sidewalk. He has crazy eyes, doing finger guns at passing cars. Up the street people build their lives and learn and pray. Down the street a women pushes her life around in a shopping cart. There is great meaning here. like a finger pointing it's way to the moon, but all I can see is the finger, because I see with my eyes and do not perceive with my mind. Transparency opacity shift within the self. My face is that of transformation, and the face of transformation is death. A churning kaleidoscope of flesh. It's like a finger pointing it's way to the moon. If you focus on the finger you lose all the heavenly glory.

Does anyone know which episode of the Meaning Crisis goes into the frame problem? I'm current on the series but can't keep straight where all the ideas come in 😕

Wasn't it DT Susuki who helped train WWII Japanese soldiers to experience a Zen at-one-ment instead of doubt or horror when ordered to participate in atrocities for the empire? Agape indeed.

10:30 - mentioned notes, where are these?

What does "noumenous" mean? Is it related to Kant's noumenon? Does anyone have a descriptive list of the technical terms used for this series? I find that many of the terms used are impossible to google.

here's my opinion tell me yours: the craziest most intense version of communitas happens right now in music especially things like drum circles, group chants at concerts, dancing together, etc. whats a stronger version of communitas than that?

30:00 ~ 32:00 Gold purification/molding as analogous to "neural annealing" in meditation. 👍 Related: opentheory.net/2018/12/the-neuroscience-of-meditation/

Is there an ongoing discussion group somewhere online for these lectures? Or just a few people who wanna talk about it on Twitter/ insta?

Raptors!

It's all for play in the same way as flowers exploding with color or heavy rain smacking the sidewalk. Thank you professor.

What’s the intro song called? I forgot the title and it’s killing me.

Hey John... is there a reason the books you mention in the video are no longer listed in the description in this, and subsequent episodes?

Perhaps the best example I’ve seen of Authentic Dialog (AD) is the recently released conversation between Guy Sengstock and Paul Vanderklay ( ukposts.info/have/v-deo/b5SknHeqgHqBmH0.html ) on Transformational Listening. I’ve Circled with Guy, and have practiced circling for four years, and I also deeply appreciate and recognize Paul’s approach to ministering as dialog, and still I’m surprised and delighted by how exemplary the interaction in the linked video is, and how it demonstrates the effectiveness of AD as a response to alienation by deeply recovering the deep sense of self that may have been lost due to developmental enfoldment of perspectives as one makes ones way through maturity. Each of us has true perceptual sense-making capacities unique to our upbringing that are often unconscious and inaccessible and which can be re-activated through the practice of AD. It’s also a demonstration that this reactivating is unique to each individual; not simply a rote set of instructions, but a deeply personal engagement.

He's talking about the things Baha'is or anyone needs to cultivate and practice to consult and discover and arrive at the truth in any context.

Did I understand it right that Buddha developed his teaching 2.5 thousand years ago to help Americans in 21st century with their boredom and procrastination? I am starting to guess that Jesus Christ went to Golgotha for the same purpose.

😉👉😋👉 change love 😊

I had a philosophy lecturer at the University if Queensland who talked like this chap. He was a schizophrenic.

Again with mechanical metaphors