Thanks David. Happy to be corrected 😊

Need another towel 😂

Thanks Dean

Yes Makefast in Wales who sort roofs- you are lucky if you are nearby 😊

Thank you 🙏

Spare roof cables

Best sinks ever.

Thanks John

Thanks Steve. 🍻

Moor on a swinging mooring and travel at displacement speeds except in an emergency or when showing off 😁

See the comment elsewhere by David Moore who sets out his actual costs (South Coast marina) which are about 30% below those stated by James

I think with boating you've got to be in one of 2 camps. Oodles of money for "the yard to do it" or oodles of experience and be able to do it yourself. But one thing is for sure; you must be one of those no matter what size the boat is.

Thank you

Thanks Steve. You are right - roof needs a redesign on the mech

Sounds like cable stretch coupled with insufficient pin diameter and / or lack of tensioner adjustment to compensate. fix is simple, a mixture from; thicker or stronger cables (or prestretch), redesign pulleys, upgrade tensioner system. Should be a simple matter for a competent manufacturer. A 2012 vessel still has the problem? hmm, I think I'd find that lack of Kaizen somewhat worrying.

@@macbouncer8525 is it a cable and pulley system and the issue is the cable jumping of the pulley? I haven't seen the system and am just trying to visualise it. 👍

@@cookiemonster2299 at 4.20 he says "the cables keep jumping off the spools" so I'm assuming yes 😃. As an aside, I did think that the wire rope he held up looked more suitable for photocopiers than roof awnings. I've got thicker wire ropes than that on my trellis! One of the cheapest ways to do it might be to have the two rotating 'spools' fixed to the hull at each side, then the awning fixed to the cable (clamped?) a few turns of cable around the the motorised spools, a few limit switches in line to the motor and thats about it. That specific approach could cause several issues, synchronisation of both sides being one of them. Getting both sides to close completely and at the same time. its very possible that if one closes slightly before the other (even if off by only 1 or 2 mm) then the first side to close, that cable will be in tension, repeat that too many times and it would easily cause structural stretching of the cable over time. Unless there is a mechanism to compensate for the stretching, it will gain enough 'slack' to jump off the spool. I should add that I have no insight into the design of the system other than applying the guiding heuristic of Occam's razor to what we've seen, been told and the fact that it keeps happening. 🤓

@@macbouncer8525 cheers ears 😁👍🇬🇧

Thanks Peter. Are you based in Uk ? If yes - whereabouts ? As service costs vary massively

Holy Mary. Who is charging that loot to service the engines. You're correct though, volvo parts are outrageously expensive.

@@gulag8735 that is not just the engines. It is the engines and outdrives (all volvo) plus the liftout, hull clean and polish, antifoul etc. but the engine and drives are probably half that cost assuming no major issues!!!!

@@Boatscouk no, in Denia Spain. For sure parts are a bit more expensive out there versus UK

Cheers Ralf

Both fast boats for the size too, the 49 (F50) can do about 36 knots, cruise above 30, as can the V39/V40. With IPS or DPH drive I believe the economy stays flat with increasing speed on a lot of boats, so even though the fuel burn in litre per miles goes up, it goes up a similar amount in line with the speed, some IPS boats get their best planing economy at over 25 knots. James you should find a way to put the boats into mpg mode rather than lph for your reviews, as if the speed rises more than the extra fuel burnt a boat can be more efficient at higher speed = better mpg. You get there quicker so the extra litre per hour doesn't always mean higher fuel burnt overall, such as with some of these boats that get best planing efficiency at high speed. Economy on shaft driven boats just tends to get worse at higher speeds (say going from 15-30 knots), and not stay flat or improve as some non shaft ones do. Like for this boat it gets better economy (and range) at 28 knots than 13 knots, an IPS 600 boat: www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fboattest.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Finline-images%2Fformula45_volvopenta435d.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fboattest.com%2Fview-news%2F3438_new-volvo-penta-ips-for-bigger-boats&tbnid=r04GeUEmECT5NM&vet=12ahUKEwjjz_7Xo8f5AhURaRoKHbAvCrsQMygAegUIARCFAQ..i&docid=zH6kaI_nz8gpOM&w=494&h=320&q=ips%20economy%20vs%20speed%20boats%20mpg%20volvo&ved=2ahUKEwjjz_7Xo8f5AhURaRoKHbAvCrsQMygAegUIARCFAQ (0.88 mpg vs 0.76 mpg) Even the shaft boat in that article gets better economy at 28 knots compared to 12 knots, I suspect that that it's due to the engines being more efficient at high load (but not flat out) and less drag as the boat lifts out of the water more as it planes faster = less drag. But IPS is about 50% more efficient at high speed, 0.9mpg vs. 0.6mpg, so while a shaft boat might cost $1500 to fuel for a trip, the IPS one would cost £1000, but both cheaper at a faster plane than a slow one as the mpg is higher. According to this the V39 get similar or better economy at 38 knots vs. 31 knots, that is amazing: www.vikingsportcruisers.com/mainnew/newsDetails.asp?numIdVal=49 Divide litres per hour by speed to get the real comparison for fuel economy. I'm an engineer BTW so this type of stuff floats my boat :) to some extent. It's sad I know but a guilty pleasure thinking about these things.

Hi Tim - when you ready - give me a shout. I would start smaller than v39 and start enjoying 😀 (sales@boats.co.uk)

Yes it goes downhill fast after a few beers Steve 😂

Yes I agree - apologies. Will clean lens next time !

Few big ones

Also you don't want to have to worry about COG calcs for take off and landing. 🙂

Free yacht - next week 😂

Good boats 😎

Hmm - I don’t think so

Yes it’s a design floor that needs fixing. Thanks DH .

They are fine for Northern Europe . In winter you can cover the roof completely .

6is the nominal displacement as 12 is 12 litre and 13 is 13 litre definitely not just number of cylinders

The one D3 was a 5 cylinder. As mentioned by Michael, it's the nominal displacement, D3 is around 3 litre, D4 is a 3.7l, D6 is just under 6l etc

Yes the brits have gone off it a bit 🥺

No it’s an ongoing issue I think

Yes although an out drive boat has a different hull and you can tilt the drives to get the bow down 👌

Stern drives get in way of thrusters

Come on 😂

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You are the best Patricia ! 👌

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Not too bad

Yes I agree it needs a better design. I thought the v39 roofs were made by makefast ?

You would have to ask the factory but I suppose they would say the following at the mo. Covid parts, Covid working on a small boat is tricky and lastly I think they lose money on every one and hope you buy a bigger one later. 😉

Good point! What word do you suggest?

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