The fact that she waited 12 years in the book, she fell in love at 16 and he finally noticed her when she was 28.😭😭

Now let's be fair for a minute here, Colin never mislead Penelope to believe that she was anything else other than a good friend and that he values that friendship. You all realize they met really young, and Penelope developped a crush on him in her teens, and like anyone with a massive crush, you're hoping that the person will notice you beyond the title of just a good friend. I don't think Colin would have been ready for Penelope before now, he needed to get to a place of maturity to finally see a woman in Penelope and not just a good friend .

Pen: I.. am a woman.. Colin: You are Pen😃

I ship Pen with Debbling. Debbling’s a lord. Colin’s just a third son. Debbling sounds kind and immediately saw her for all her beauty, wit, and glory.

It was painful to watch. Everyone in her life took her for granted, and treated her as less than and insignificant, it was sad 😔

Colin doesn’t see Penelope in the same way Eloise doesn’t. They essentially use her for her friendship with no reciprocation.

As sad as it is, it's not really that sad. Penelope is a neglected person from her parents. That's even more sad and that's probably the reason why she's held on to her crush from calling for so long. The sad part is her being a wallflower because she never got proper love and attention from her mother. Colin not liking her is more of a side thing because he's not required to love her just because she likes him. Even in our fantasy world.

This is why I am currently team lord Debling. He sees her as beautiful from the beginning and people deserve to be with someone who is attracted to them.

Colin is not obligated to return her feelings. He could have a little more awareness to realize her feelings and treat those feelings with more sensitivity, but he is also a bit immature still to this point in the series. He is not a bad person for regarding her as a close friend rather than a prospective partner if he does not return her feelings. If Penelope is tired of hoping he will return her feelings, it's on her to be honest with him about how their interactions affect her and put boundaries in place to protect herself. You don't get involuntarily friend-zoned; you allow yourself to be and remain there unless you make the decision to move on.

Poor pen😭 in real life you wouldve been with lord debling

I had never noticed that- what a parallel! He thinks he is feeding a duck when he has a true swan in front of him

I know it may seems childish but I just want a scene where Pen tells Colin: "You do not count you are just a friend" when she is looking for a suitor.

I don't think Anthony saw Pen and Colin's special friendship either. He was using Pen and Colin as an example of how dancing doesn't mean anything. So to him Daphne and Simon dancing didn't mean anything since Pen and Colin danced together too and they aren't anything. lol. So he definitely didn't see anything between Pen and Colin. I would like to see what he thinks about Pen and Colin in this third season. :)

Colin seems to be a scapegoat for people to project unrequited crushes on. He is not obligated to return or notice Penelope's crush. He has been cordial and friendly as appropriate for a friend. He's shown her more attention than the rest of the ton, conversing, dancing and looking into her uncle's scam. That part of the fandom is itching to see him suffer is cruel.

Colin doesn’t deserve pen at this point he’s going to have to do more the grovel for this one cause wtf why are all the bridgertons so bad at seeing their true love in front of their faces

Never get with a guy that overlooks you, disparages you to his buddies… it’s the worst loving a guy that just isn’t into you. Even if they do get together she will always feel more strongly than he does.

Colin is allowed to not like Penelope back. Nobody is entitled to another person's romantic feelings. If a man made this video he would be exhibiting incel behavior.

Eyebrow. I think you're pretty hard on Colin. He's a young man in the show. He's probably a few years out of the school room. In that time he's flirted and and smoozed because that's what a young handsome man does. In the books he's friendly with Pen and Felicity because they're often with his sisters, so much so that he admits he sees them as his sisters. Knowing that his treatment of Pen is relatively as he treats his two youngest sisters. When he leaves he goes onna trip by himself for the first time. That fact thar he's able to go out and get to know himself before he comes home to romance Pen actually indicates a maturity developing. Yes you can marry someone and not know yourself but it often leads to complications as you go. Pen and Colin both have to develop into people who have realistic expectations of each other and as partners in life.

That feeding the ducks scene is a great metaphor for Pen that season! He's out there, just thinking he's with an ugly duckling, not even trying to see that really she's a beautiful swan. Well done.

I really don’t like how many villainize Colin for not noticing Penelope right away. I think they probably met when he was too young to really think of her in a romantic light, so she became his friend. And Penelope never told Colin she likes him, so why would he ever think she likes him. She has always been kind to him, and I do think he took her a little for granted. He never intentionally meant to hurt her. Sometimes people need a little wake up call to see what is in front of them. That is was this whole season is about, for both to see each other differently and have reached a maturity where they can be together.

I disagree. He didn't CHOOSE to not see her...he's just outright oblivious!

I think a lot of us have been in this boat, clinging to hope that someone we have a crush on will notice us. In real life, IMO, it's better to move on to someone who actually notices you right away, appreciates you and gets you. You'll be much happier with that abundant love than clinging to scraps that someone throws to you as they obliviously string you along.

I’ll forever ship Penelope and Debling. Colin should’ve missed his chance and saw what he missed out on

You all forget one important thing. Eloise discovered last season that Penelope is Lady Whistledown. I wonder how she will react when she sees her brother Colin and Penelope together.

Omg this season can’t come soon enough. The waiting is agonizing. I literally just bought all nine books so I can satiate my Bridgerton thirst until May.

Penelope is easily one of the most beautiful women in the series.. her lack of confidence is an issue.. but also in this society and sometimes in this society too being plus size is synonymous with being unattractive… I don’t root for Lord Debling over Colin.. Colin made an idiotic comment and he is going to eat his words..he was immature and who he is growing to be will love Penelope..the person you think you won’t end up with is the one you probably will end up with…in the books there were no other suitors.. he saw her differently that’s called growing up 😊

Lmao its giving adrien and marinette’s “she’s just a friend” shenanigans 😂

I think that what most people miss when they talk about how wrong colin was acting prior is that Penelope was never mad at him for that, she understood why hes overlooked her, shes never oh woe is me. Thats her personality, she sees all and though it hurts her shes not made a victim. And colin had always made a point to not flirt with pen in the books, and though knew she liked him, didnt want to hurt her.And I mean saying that to other gentlemen in public is AGREGIOUS, it was only to his brothers in the book, in their own home that she over heard him. She also made a point to let him know she was above being upset at him for it. They just changed the setting to make it a sticking point so we could get ANGRY PEN and GROVELING colin, which just wasnt the case. Colin was an absolute commanding hothead in the book.

My hope though is that the season won’t make it be Pen groveling to Colin about LW. One of the things I enjoyed in the book was him working through it and honestly, him being jealous she had found her purpose, to being proud of her. She’s groveled long enough to everyone.

I never understood this idea that Colin rejected and especially if it was based on bad intentions. Pen is primarily friends with his younger sister. The fact that he calls her Pen instead of Miss Featherington and writes her letters suggests that he sees her as a sister because those actions were taboo at the time except for family. When he said you didn't count he was saying you are the only woman I won't exclude. When he says would not court he because the thought is incestuous. Overall I love how Shondaland's writing manipulates circumstances to make us feel a certain way that doesn't always match what is going on. ❤️

That's why I don't want pen to end with colin ...colin is not some villian and I don't think he owes love to Penelope, though he benefits from her Penelope' warmth and emotional presence ...however Penelope always suffer from neglect , lack of love and appreciation ..thats why she hold Eloise and colin so strong because they are the only people who makes her feel seen ...so getting together with colin will not truly liberate her ..her whole makeover will only seems at surface ..in order to get her arch done , she needs to stop depending on colin and Eloise ..she needs to contemplate and scrutnise her love colin ....she needs to go beyond her comfort fanatsy ....she has to let go this teeny love in order to grow in the present

If they are gonna ship Pen with Colin, they better humble him REaLL GoOD beforehand.

Never fall for a man that doesn’t see your beauty from the beginning. Wished she ended up with the Lord.

9:43 he only danced with her to get the necklace. He was never interested in Cressida

Really good video , i liked how you peeled back the layers and analized the whole story between them . Thanks. Your views were on point. I dont think he was ready for her until now. Poor pen. She's a sweetheart. Can't wait to watch this new season ❤😊

That’s why I ship pen + debling. He didn’t need many year to see her! 😢

I think since he’s known her since childhood he sees her as a sister and he shuts things down because it’s weird to him that he is starting to see her as a woman

It's funny as the years (and seasons) went by, I found myself relating to Penelope more and more. Being the wallflower romantically, getting help to court other men by the man I actually love, being the the laughingstock of a huge group for a decade, a desire to fulfill my purpose in life but someone else is always making it impossible. Heavens, the list goes on... Anyway, after everything that has happened between Penelope and Colin so far, I don't think he is all that blind to her feelings. I just think he is being stubborn especially when he met Penelope at the stairs after seeing Marina. It was as if he was angry at the notion of romancing Penelope and her sort of bringing that conversation up just made him annoyed 😮

I think Penelope and Colin feel comfortable with each other that they forget how many rules they break. So what is scandalous for someone else, they are not scandolous for them, in their eyes. Honestly, if people did not constantly interrupt them, I think she could have revealed her feelings earlier. To be honest, it is nice that they are finding themselves first before coming back together and realizing why they loved each other, even as friends, in the first place.

I genuinely hope he doesn’t pursue another lady this season. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF HIM DOING THAT.

Ugh. The Colins of the world. I don’t know how I’m going to feel about this season. I’m soooo grateful that I married my Lord Debling rather than the Colin in my life. I think I’m going to be rooting for the other guy lol.

You're being way too hard on him. With the exception of what he said at the Featherington ball about never courting Penelope (a more dramatic change from the books), he has never intentionally tried to hurt her. He's a good guy, just clueless. Hence Penelope's unfortunate predicament as the wallflower that she is. And some guys can be clueless, that doesn't mean he should be given the riot act. And he doesn't have to apologize if he doesnt reciprocate her feelings. He doesnt owe her that. Penelope shares some of the blame as well because as Eloise points out in their fight, she never stands up for herself. She never really puts herself out there with Colin either. She always plays it safe. She's lacking confidence. That's not her fault either. But during one of their many interactions, for example, his gaze lingers on her, but she breaks it and turns away, not him. So even if there was a potential inkling of reciprocation on his part, she never gives him clear signals that she was interested in him romantically. From his perspective, he could easily think she sees him as a friend and given how supportive and encouraging she has been of him, I can see him not wanting to jeopardize that. I think he does already love Pen, but in a platonic way, pre S3. Scandal doesn't occur to him because she's like family. When he's saying shes special or she doesn't count (as a woman who will break his heart) or dancing with another girl, after complimenting Pen, he's not trying to be manipulative. He's not trying to be rude. He's trying to show his appreciation for her in an albeit clumsy way that unfortunately leaves Penelope heartbroken. But that is not his fault, again with exception to what he said to the guys - that was just mean and I hate how they changed that from the book version, amongst other things. Yes, he hurt her, and Eloise hurt her, but she also hurt them via Lady Whistledown and while I was concerned about the overly dramatic changes compared to the books, I'm sure it'll all come together nicely in S3. Do I want to see him grovel and be jealous? Of course, but because of what he said at that ball, not because he's been oblivious of her feelings towards him. People are so obsessed with Penelope's feelings and insecurities, that they fail to really see him and his insecurities. This wasnt even my go-to couple (Kanthony fan) and I really wanted to see Benedicts story. But the more Ive thought about it, rewatching their scenes separately and together, the more Ive become a Polin fan. And from the teasers for S3, it seems like all these issues will be addressed. Im looking forward to it.

I think this season will be full of surprises when it comes to Colin, and even Penelope. We cant be so hard on Colin seeing as he truly never mislead Penelope and did see her as his friend. He should not have said what he said to fife and the guys..but from what we are seeing...i dont think she plans on letting him off the hook right away so easily. Colin will start seeing Penelope in a new light as the season goes on, and as they spend more time together. Theyve always considered each other friends but from what i saw..not close friends. She was Eloises best friend..now we get to see these two spending time together when before it was dances and a few conversations...i ship these two...in real life, people make mistakes..so we cant burn Colin (a fictional character) at the stake for being a stupid guy who said a stupid thing at the time. I am so ready and rooting for them this season

THANK YOU! I hate her storyline. PEN DESERVED BETTER! She deserved “love at first sight.” But rather she gets his attention because of FOMO. I hate this and I’m not eager to watch it. I wish the other man would have taken her away and swept her off her feet. She deserved to be chosen instantly and FIRST.

She better make him work !!! Or I’m not interested 😭😭

I'm not sure that Colin is that manipulative, I think he's just really dense. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. I really don't see how this can be more than a teenage crush on a pretty boy.

I always wondered why pen never had an older person who she told her hearts desires to, someone not obvious but to bear her soul to. Even Colin’s sister did not get to the full truth of Pens desire. I often thought it was a missed opportunity in the script I’ve never read the books.

some people truly don't get that Colin not reciprocating her feelings straight away isn't a moral failure on his part, he either didn't realise her feelings or didn't want to hurt her and lose her as a friend by talking about it. he's been kind and affectionate with her, and now he regrets saying those words to those men because he knows that as a good friend he shouldn't have done that. colin hasn't rejected penelope per se, he just hasn't acknowledged her as a woman he would considering marrying because his long time friend and his sister's best friend, plus it just never occurred to him. once he Sees pen for everything she is, he will never want to stay away from her again. he's Colin "Miss. My. Wife" Bridgerton, after all.

I love her character and as many have already said, it isn't his fault for not noticing and as much as Penelope's responsibility to express her feelings. However, even when she expresses the fact that she is a woman, and Colin corrected her and said," You are are Pen, and you are my friend." That was her scared way of trying to express her feelings. Let's be honest, Colin wasn't attracted to her. We know what it's like to be attracted to someone and they not notice, but we also know what it's like to be friends with someone and we grow an attraction to them with time. To me it's simple, he wasn't attracted and loved their friendship so to fathom anything outside of that wasn't an option for him as it was for her. As soon as someone else showed interest, it opened his eyes as her being an option when another man saw her as a beautiful person in and out. Losing her to another man scared him and woke him up. People do this, they may not want you until someone else sees your value and does. For that very reason no matter how much she loved Colin, Debbling saw her and didn't need long to see her value and you be a better choice. I refuse to think Colin didn't know, I think he didn't want to see it and feed into it if he wasn't in to her that way. Of course, we all want a happy long awaited ending between the pair. I just can't help but still think; poor Penelope, you still are only chosen out of jealousy even if there is some love there. Imagine her life with the Lord Debling who saw her for her.

i want revenge

Colin open your eyes!

hear me out: pen + debling & eloise + theo

Im definitly a penelope in real life. A younger sister, look over and constantly being belittled and compared to my older siblings. If I was Penelope I would choose Debbling, at least from the beginning I'm viewed as a wife versus fighting against an childlike little sister image that was thrust upon me.

I'm crying here 😭😭

I have been waiting for this since season 1. I hope he realizes what a huge mistake he was making. She's a perfect person.

Glad Marina landed on her feet ...

i just want pen to be happy 😭

just a disclaimer. he only danced with cressida cowper to get her necklace so he could prove it was a fake and made of glass.

I love Penelope and I just want here to be happy,seen,loved and I just wanted her be happy for season three please.Colin doesn’t deserve Penelope at all,she very well deserves better.

How Pen looks in season 3 comparing to season 1 and 2 is worth giving credit for. She's gorgeous😍

Penelope being rejected was always sad to see, but now it is colin's turn to be rejected.

Pen had way more stuff to worry about with her family and the whole Lady Whistedown unmasking plot that even if she wanted to tell Colin her feelings it never felt like the right time. The pining and letdowns were her measured choice because she did not want to lose the friendship or be made fun of and she never makes it extremely obvious that she likes him she always keeps that boundary up so she can protect herself from the ultimately rejection: she tells him how she feels and he doesn't feel the same way. So she settles for the friendship even though she wants more because she thinks it is better than not having him in her life at all. I think the tragedy is that Penelope cares about him so much in that he can do no wrong in the previous seasons and she is always there for him even when it hurts her. I think the new season will show them both matured and I hope will show that Penelope has finally seen her self-worth and value as a friend and prospective wife. He does not owe her love back but I think that her increase in confidence in herself in the new season is what will make her attractive to him in a way he may not have seen before.

I want 3rd season and I don't even know why cuz THIS PLOT WITH MARINA MAKES ME SO MAD, and I mean netflix took this plot out from his ass WTF like season 2 I see it like never happend but I'm a reader so I READ the books

#Bridgerton - When is the date in May - I would like to see Colin and Penelope together already!

Polin forever 😍😍😍😍😍😍

I so want her to actually end up with Lord Debling instead. He seems kind, from the limited footage so far they seem to enjoy spending time together, he's finally letting her actually talk instead of just talking about himself like Colin, and I just know he is going to be head over heels for her from the start. I truly believe he will be the first to notice her wit, strength and beauty. Doesn't help that Colin had so far been just an arrogant, self-centered, ignorant prick. I truly think Debling will be a far better match for her, though I'm aware Colin and Pen are most likely going to end up together anyway, for all the dumbest reasons of course (and they'll have to include a heavy amount of embellishment and sparkle if they want to make me believe it to actually be a good match---no, by that I don't mean Colin getting abs...).

This is clearly a case of he sees her as a little sister and she sees him as a potential mister. It is sad really really sad. I hate that this hits close to home.

I think they should have stuck to book order.

Colin doesn't even know HOW PEN FEELS ... it is not selective blindness ... HE DOES NOT KNOW ... what.?? was Colin supposed to be a mind reader ????

The way I know it's gonna hit him like a TRAIN.

This video just refuled my hate fire for colin. Lol

Penelope should choose herself, Self Love and self respect ❤

I know it’s not gonna happen, but in another universe, Pen sheds off the desperation for Colin and love. Then Debling or someone like him comes in to the equation when she is in a content independent state.

I feel like the channel is team debling, I'm team Debling... until Colin has proven his love for Pen is real, I thought I was gonna be team Debling all the way, but damn when the trailer released, Colin looked at her yearningly and I can feel the intense of the stare which made my heart sad haha, but if you'll really think about it Debling is much more suitable with Pen... Season 3 is gonna be exciting!

While I enjoy all the shade you throw here, 😂 I really just don’t see them not happening.

Marina is not a good soul. When she was still making a play for Colin, she told Penelope she knew that she loved him but Marina would kill that fantasy.

I really don´t like Collin :( Pen is awesome she deserves better then someone like him

YEAH F COLIN! He is the worst!!!!!!!! I've finished the book and I'm so mad that Pen is too passive to even make him suffer a little bit. I hope he goes nuts - and I hope she will make him suffer a lot - before Polin is a thing. And I'm so glad Shonda Rhimes is known for spicing everything up... I'd not like to see Pen from the books treating him as the best person ever even tho he made her wait for 12 years

I do not want Pen with Colin, especially after the remark he made at the end of season two. Penelope deserves someone who will love her and respect her as an equal. To me Collin’s remark smacked of a fake friendship, where only one side was putting any real effort into it, and the other side was just lapping it up to feed his ego. Yes, she was not supposed to hear that remark: but I think it needs to be viewed as this is how he really thinks/feels about Penelope when she is not around. The fact that he talked about her behind her back, instead of face-to-face only proves that he is not worthy of Penelope.

Y'all playing the shipping game for Pen with Lord Debling even before the season starts is just wild😂 But honestly, wouldn't that choice belong to Pen? Whoever she chooses, I just wish she'll be most happy with him. Then she can have the independence life she wants, to be her own person & most importantly, she's with the one she truly loves & the one who loves her back ❤

Pen : 😢 The queen 👑 : sorrow Me : wtf😢😢😢😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It’s a drama people!!! You need the drama to happen first then a sweet ending follows. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣👏👍☮️

I think debbling will ultimately not be supportive of pen being whistledown, otherwise I have no idea how they’re going to make Colin look good enough to ship😅 I want polin to be a thing, but I also want to be shown it merits being a thing

The thing about him saying he would never court her is that I think he is the one so insecure about himself that he thinks he doesn't deserve someone like her. a lot of this is 2 people feeling so down on themself's that they think they don't deserve whats right in front of them. Eloise said it best when talking down Benedict in season1. Lady Whistledown is a women and therefore has nothing, and still she wrights. Collin travel's because he wants to run away from everything, and he doesn't believe he belongs in London. with all the debutants. He has already seen Pen that way so he thinks she's too good for him. Penn gets downplayed a lot because of all the things her mother says and does about her, so she probably thinks the worst already.

It’s not Colin’s fault that Pen is obsessed with him. Can’t blame Pen though, Colin is hot and a gentleman

After I read the book it made me not look forward to the 3rd season - as I think Colin treats her awfully! It's the, 'I don't want to love you, but I can't help it' - reminds me of the Mr Darcy/Ms Bennett thing in P&P

There’s a lot of things in here I agree with. But at 9:50 it is unreasonable to call him manipulative. He was not doing anything to try manipulate Penelope. He wasn’t trying to make her do or feel anything so it cannot be manipulation. Thoughtless and hurtful from Penelope’s perspective? Absolutely. But not at all manipulative.

What’s their age gap in the book/movie?

yeah it's super ridiculous. adding the marina plot made it all infuriating.

Yeah I think this is one they should have went away from the books. She deserves so much more than a friend who never really saw her worth until he was left with no other option.

I disagree with a lot of this portrayal of Colin. He's oblivious, sure, but if you take his statements and view them individually they all make sense for a friend to say.

Whoever wrote this article is conflating Colin's obliviousness with rejection. The truth is that Colin has repressed feelings and is still hurt from Marina's ordeal. He doesn't really understand the closeness he has with Pen beyond friendship--he can't reconcile his restlessness that's why he always travels. He doesn't realize it's love and not just friendship. He went out of his way to publicly defend and protect Pen against Cressida and her scam-artist cousin. But he grew careless the minute the other gentleman point out his attentions to Pen because he needs her to stay the same. This is textbook denial and negging behavior. He's a popular suitor with a house full of siblings, yet Pen's the only one who answers his letters when he's away? He is lonely and desperate to be seen as a grown-up that's why he fell so hard and fast for Marina. He needs Pen to remain his uncomplicated childhood friend because it has defined much of his life and he depends on her emotional support.

It's ironic that Colin said that he started a real conversation with someone. In the Regency era that would have meant that he had started an affair! Criminal conversion meant adultery. Ironically, saying that you had intercourse with someone would have meant that you had had a conversation or some other form of social activity with someone.

Ladies must always remember: even if a woman fixes up & gets in the driver's seat; the man is still looking to find his Queen, one that he can drive around; even rrreph the engines; steer with meaningful care with their beings And- ..know it's not up to her to find his glasses; his eyes must adjust and he must find her; in order for his labor to be branded and ever lasting towards her.. Otherwise he'll go alone to get along.. But if and when Colin finds Pen 🖊️ they'll have a chance..if neither of them allows emotions to sail into unhealthy darkness🌑 but let's just wait and see👀 Up until last storyline Colin wasn't assuming anything about Pen's feelings he didn't know..neither was Colin Intentionally hurting his dear friend because of it.. I get it.. His dear friend Penn was hurting because her emotions toward Colin had ventured beyond just supportive pals.. While Colin was busy being himself and figuring his life's likes in the comfort of his real friend.. I really get it.. No jabs at Colin & slow down the buggy Pen (we don't want it in front of the horses for her, right)..

I don’t like Colin for Penelope if it takes you 28 years to notice somebody, I’m sorry move on. As well as Colin is not required to like Penelope back. I know we would like that but it’s not required. Also, I don’t like how people villainize marina. She was a pregnant girl in the Regency era with no money and no way to earn money . Who just wanted a guy who was going to treat her nice and didn’t want to have to live in agony with some old creep. If you were in her position, you would done the same thing.

why 😭

He should have stayed in the friend zone. Simply boils down to attraction, any man who was attracted to a woman is not going to friend zone her.

I wonder if she n Eloise will b friends again

No one is dumb just cause they only want a friendship from someone? He has no obligation to like her romantically??? It’s okay if he doesn’t find her attractive or doesn’t want to jeopardise their friendship, that started when both were very young! ‘Lost cause’….sometimes friendship turns into love, and sometimes it doesn’t. ❤

OMG! This vid made me hate Colin more after Season 2 ending. Now, I just want him to suffer in agony for Pen 😤