Yes please :3

I'd love to see reviews of C-dramas too! Especially the terrible ones.... oh man...

I'm guessing part of what took a lot of time was the skipping around and having to find the right parts? To be honest, I'd be fine just listening to you talk about some topic without much clipping if that makes it easier for you. You have a lot of interesting points and was very engaging to listen to. I really want to hear you talk about some great Chinese litterature that's still accessible to common audiences. Or maybe your favorite Chinese myths or something :O

Even if you only make one video every month or two or less, we're here for it!

I'm excited for your book and for more videos!

So true

It's also very visibly drilled/milled characters, not punched, etched, or chiselled. Which makes it look CHEAAAAAAP. I know martial arts movies tend to have a cheap look, but it's a cheaper look overall, but here it contrasts strongly with the quality (not talking about the pertinence) of the rest of the props. Also, it's not looking like a cheap *Chinese* prop, it's very much the look of a milled metal plate you buy at a Chinese shop for 2 bucks *in wester countries*

Hhahah it makes me remember I saw a white person(without negative meaning)once and I saw his tattoo "父” maybe he thought it's two knives or something ? But actually it means "father "😂

@@xdfourhappymeatballs7175 Dunno, maybe this person's father died and as he had a connection to that culture the tattoo is meant to honor him. Or maybe youre right, don't know.

I really like that white people think chinese characters are cool, and tend to tattoo grossly mistranslated nonsense. Asians then go and print some engrish nonsense on a t-shirt. It just shows that in some ways, we aren't all that different, lmao.

I wanted to like, but it’s at a perfect 420 😌

Shlgljgss LMAOOOO

And at 1.2k is well passed (past?) 420 likes. I love the new (resurrected, 2.0) angry feminist, with a hoarse voice and goth look and that classic deadpan cynical sarcasm that only the patriatchy can stir up in an intelligrnt person *wipes away tear. There is still hope for the future. And LEAD with the plug for your book, you bad ass!! It sounds hella good, I want to read it. Geez, multi-talented, I hope! We'll see.

@@coppersense999 wtf is this comment lmfao

@Xavria.z xzm ukposts.info/have/v-deo/b2mmja59iayEwGg.html

Seems accurate.

I'd feel like her too

@@M.z.yoyevv me three 💀

The actress actually jumped in front of an arrow because the film was so bad

She was so done. "Mulan just kill me pls. I can't do this shi anymore"

And then the sequel completely ruined it.

​@@Mojo1356 we don't talk about that thing. The Mulan animation only had one film we care to mention & know about.

Don't forget the grandma Mulan: "Would you like to stay for dinner?" Grandma: "WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY FOREVER?!"

@@aeoligarlic4024 “dinner would be great”

No offense, but y’all have got to stop throwing a tantrum about the few movies that don’t centre romance. If I can deal with 95% of movies ending with at least one happy couple, y’all can stop acting like you’ve been given water in the desert when you’re given yet another happy couple ending.

Forget that historically armies would go into battle and break into songs as self and collective motivator. Modern armies still break into songs when they head to battles.

She’s a superhero. She clearly doesn’t need it. :P They took as much use of wires as possible, and made sure that her actions mostly didn’t adhere to the laws of physics.

That clearly showed the audience that she wouldn't be harmed, so she didn't need to worry 😂😂😂

Tamaki742 it’s fine she still had plot armor

@@claudia-7917 it's like everytime a girl fights she has to take some clothes/armor off. It doesn't even have to be sexual (like in LOTR or even Wonderwoman). That's the empowered aEsThEtIcS they keep going for

Hahahahaha! I laughed way too hard at that! It caught me so off guard. Well done!

Maybe he/she is a horse spirit that’s on his way to cultivate into human form, with the goal of eventually becoming immortal. And if this is a fantasy romance C-drama, the horse spirit will fall in love with Mulan and give up his immortal cultivation in order to live an ordinary happy life with her (in his human form - does that make it less furry?😂). Then they’ll get married and give birth to a human/spirit hybrid child who later encounters severe identity issues. Then one day the gods/immortals will find out this “sinful” marriage between human and spirit, and decide to punish and separate them. And then blablabla omg the story writes itself😂

@@HanQ28 that would probably be better than the mulan movie

@@francesgreen3519 I second this. Someone make it.

To carry more oxygen and stop his body from producing lactic acid.

Yeah, that explains a lot...

disney didn’t, the artists and animators did

@@AreCatsPlantsOrMinerals they did it on company time working for... Disney.

​@@catperson6683 PriVer Animation?

isn't brave pixar?

She’s also related to Wu Zetian

She also wrote a book about Wu Zetian

She's the first female emperor! Not the first empress :)

@@bbnagyu7704 Oh, I'm sorry

Not to be a grammar cop but its “rose to power”

Oh man, I'm boiling at this very practice each and every time it turns up in a movie. Like wtf, people are just willy-nilly throwing 25 Ferraris worth of armor away in every other movie like it's any old trash. And weapons. And don't get me started on ropes... How I wish they'd stop doing that. It'd be such an improvement to every single one of those movies, for literally no effort what so ever.

Most movies just really don't understand how Expensive and Effective ancient armor were. To them it's just cheap decorative thing that protect less than clothing ;)

I don’t know who wrote that scene, but it feels like something a man would write

When I saw this, I was soo confused, I was thinking “why did she just took off everything that was meant to protect her? And her hair too? The whole purpose of the hair up is to make it easier to fight and see. It’s not because she’s a women bc when women fight, we put our hair up”. That whole thing made no damn sense, only a dude would write that.

@@patrickcote4521 It fell out of use because it stopped being effective against newer weapons--most of the changes in armor design have driven by that, and it only became fashion when it held on past when it was still effective. The thing is that if they really want to pull that kind of scene off? Just establish that we're at one of those points where the current style of armor just slammed into being an expensive & ineffective impediment because there's new weapons that punch through it and/or had a "And THIS is why you don't buy from the bargain bin at the cheapest used armor dealer..." moment. (The latter might be good if you want other people to have effective armor--it's just, well, our stripper bought the cheap sketchy stuff.)

HAHAHA trueee

HECK YASS!

He's the new Mushu

EXACTLY

Lmao yes

People are demonized, how you get demonized varies according to your race, sex, beliefs, etc and depends on who is demonizing you.

The way people are vilified even changes strongly with time. Like the modern idea of a “witch” like they use in this is such a young concept. Pretty sure this vilification came around 1000CE, when paganism at large was being expunged in Europe and all forms of practice that related to the old religions were made illegal. This included traditional forms of medicine, divination, and so on. The movement to make witches truly be “evil” instead of just outside the law “helpers” or healers took a couple centuries and the publication of an awful book called Malleus Malifacaraum. So not only is the concept of “witch” here wrong for Chinese culture, but it’s 400+ years early by European culture of the same era. The fact that she’s a shapeshifter would’ve still been seen as morally neutral to Europeans at the time, too. They would’ve been instead freaking out that she’s using magic against the establishment, kind of like China would too to be honest. That’s the real crime, political and rival destruction, and yet this alignment was not explored. Like this just doesn’t line up anywhere anytime, honestly.

Yeah it's weird, it's like women are not goddesses, but mere mortals to whom sometimes bad things happen. One thought they were immune to bad things because they don't poop. Cos they do not poop, right...?

You’d be surprised how many cultures thankfully didn’t demonize women, like at least the great majority of Native American cultures

Yes, everyone can be demonized, every culture does it in its own way. What a shocker.

i laughed harder than i have in a while!

The chinese hell line is so funny because even the concept of hell is different between the chinese and european lmso

Yeah but at that point, they already got the money😂 They just didn’t care......

They know Chinese people will watch it... its a movie for kids... Unlike Maleficent, were the script has to change several times, Because Angelina Jolie is too Rich to sign up for a movie only 7 year old koreans will enjoy.

I thought that was the whole point of making this movie... To fix the cultural mistakes of the original. But it just made me want to watch the original

But still wanted their money lol😂

Ima give you all a secret on why it performed badly in China. There are multiple Chinese pirating websites where people can watch Mulan for free lol. That’s how my entire family watched mulan

Like I’m 100% white and know that chi isn’t a superpower from a year of karate, yet these people who claim to have done extensive research act like it is?

one time I saw a white person with a tatoo 大傻逼 and I nearly fell over in the middle of the street in nyc

@@poison_raine5219 What does that translate to?😂

@@mary-bethholland2871 it means big stupid uhhhhh bleeeeeeeeeeeeeppppp it can be interpreted in many different ways depending on your region

@@poison_raine5219 LMFAO YOU’RE KIDDING 😭 that is hilarious

Fox spirit... A serious accusation you got here because this is usually applied when you're calling someone a "slut", in here should be applied when a woman seduces a man and manipulates his mind

Also the witch used a shuriken, a Japanese weapon to try and kill Mulan. A *Japanese* weapon. 🤦‍♂️ Look I can give it a semi pass if the movie was based remotely around any of those regions and just was like a mixture, but this movie is about a *Chinese* story and it’s even more confusing that the armor is actually accurate to ancient Chinese armor. However, it could’ve worked if just as you said the witch was a fox spirit that instead of being from China was from Japan since those two countries have been enemies for who knows how long and it’s like Tamamo-no-Mae, a fox spirit who’s origins although were Japanese some versions state she was originally from China and was the reason the Shang dynasty fell and fled to Japan under a different name. Hence why she would use Japanese weapons

​@@ghost19101Wait, DEADASS??? I missed that detail then.

@@ghost19101 yep and fox spirit historically is used for demonizing woman so it fits, most famous was su daji

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AS SHE SHOULD. PERIODT.

Ur mom is a great person

I read many Manhuas and chi is not something you are born being able to Channel, but something you have to train to be able to use, such training, combined with martial arts so you can use the chi is called Cultivation, you also need a certain number of Meridian Roots so you can channel the chi and your Dantian, a region near the stomach has to be intact, and to get stronger you need herbs to make cultivation pills (screw up and you make poison pills instead), learn techniques and acquire different artifacts known as treasures, even a genius cultivator would need a sect or a master to refine the techniques, so, Mulan pulling those crazy stunts on her own, without prior training in cultivation is absurd, even by OP MC manhua standards because said OP MCs have decades worth of training under their belts, and they turned Mulan into a Mary Sue, to please China, a country that dislikes Mary Sues

@@oddeye2412 you mean period?

They probably watched DBZ and figured chi is a battery you have to fill up to throw kamehameha waves.

Could they have made it chi-BENDING? Thought of that when they said "chi is like blood, would say Blood is only for warriors"...ooh blood bending 😈

I have a grasp of what chi is from acupuncture, and frankly it's just not magic. As far as the AMA is concerned it's voodoo. You have energy within you that can be harnessed to heal you, ease your pain, and enable you to recover from injury, not that modern medicine approves of any method that keeps patients away from their expensive drugs that do little to help.

​@@auricstormhemomancy, which is probably western as heck.

@@DancerVeiled Even in DBZ, ki is described as an innate aspect of your body that you harness. Ki isn't a fucking superpower lol. It's how you utilize your Ki that gives you power

Excuse of a movie? Mulan 2020 was barely an excuse of a loud fart.

@@BrennaBridRogers😂

I feel so bad for Xiran because you can see their…qi (see what I did there?) ebbing away as the movie goes on.

Just goes to show that Disney doesn't actually care about diversity. They only care about the marketing potential of pretending to care.

"I think not being racist is the new racism." - Jeff Winger

It’s about getting you to pay for the movie not to like it

@@maia_gaia All of the corporations do it, zoomers are a big market and all did the market research properly. What is even more disgusting is the way how they try to pretend they don't care about maximizing profits. Just remember Pride Month for Coca Cola, Bethesda and other corps posting "woke" ads everywhere but in Middle East and Russia lol. So much for "leading change".

@@maia_gaia yes

that line had me ROLLING lmaooo

I love the fact that is one of the many ways the movie craps all over political correctness while trying to be pc.

Is that a Charles Bronson quote?

Just make it a 'historically accurate' one. You know, like Disney!

10:43 best parts lmao

Oh, I would have loved it if that WAS the line, and Mulan answered really deadpan "So, I guess you haven't heard about menstruation, dad..." But I suspect that would have been a very different movie XD

I mean... From what I understand a girl in a Chinese family meant just someone to marry off. Like... I try to understand but genuine love seems to lack in all I can find.

@@kariissmol9172 they were referring to to chi and blood analogy

@@kariissmol9172 the same was true in Europe for most of history, are you going to seriously argue that's evidence that the French are incapable of loving their children too?

listen The more “civilized” an old culture was the worse it treated the girls.

Until she has her first blood that is... 😂... Or at least according to GoT

Probably because what mainstream culture says is a "strong female character" is just a girl acting like a dude. :\ Most girls are feminine. Some are tomboys, sure (myself included), but there are just naturally a lot of differences between men and women. There's nothing wrong with that. We need to stop pretending there is. For instance, like Xiran mentions, the cartoon Mulan uses her wits to solve her problems. She's not naturally as physically strong as a guy, so she compensates by using her brain. Disney took that away in the 2020 movie, and now the character is bland. Come on Disney; you can do (and have done) better than this.

@@erocenturion2809 THANK YOU!! I don't want a movie to tell me I'm valuable because I can do the same things a man can, I want to know I am valuable for just being me, even if I like "girly" things. Girls need to know that "girly" things are valuable not that only boyish girls are. lol and I am also a tomboy but i hated any girly sides of me thinking it was useless.

Exactly. It bothers me so much because all these feminist things they add just make the movies and characters bland and weird. Mulan is such a strong iconic character in the old movie. Why the hell did they have to change her? It makes no sense to me. Instead of making her train hard and just become strong, they had to add all that chi/qui (?) thingy and give her some sort of superpower gift? By doing that they're basically telling us that women need some strong chi/qui force to be as powerful as men. Like... that is not feminism at all. Also, the witch (had they just have her be a spirit) could have been such an awesome, strong character. The way she obeyed that bad guy despite being much more powerful than him and then just died really sucked.

Yesss like women being strong only because they’re born with it, no flaws, no character development

Lindsay Elliss made a great video about this called "Woke Disney". The feminist part isn't exactly the main subject but it's one of the things that points out Disney's try-hard at pandering the modern generation

It does..it's a light silly song about dreaming of a lover to fight for only to stumble on a destroyed village and realize they already have a reason to fight for; the women and children of villages, their families, their country, ect.

Exactly. All their dreams of glory and the burned village reminds them that it's not about what they gain if they win, it's what, or rather who, will be sacrificed if they lose. It's not just wanting to win, they HAVE to win for the sake of those they love.

"Mercenaries fight for victory inspired for what they can win, heroes fight inspired to avoid defeat for what they may lose."

You know I just wrote a small paper on what mythology is and its purposes, I used a great quote from a book... I wish I used this though.

This just reminds me of all the bible fanfiction from Europe that i live for

@@jim-bob3093 Dante Inferno

Basically anything in writing is a fanfiction of a fanfiction of fanfictions.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a good example of this. The Three Kingdoms Era was a historical period of civil war in China, which lasted 96 years. The book is kinda similar to the Trojan Cycle, in that it depicts a historical conflict, featuring supernatural elements, hundreds of years after the event. Real historical characters are featured in Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but like how Achilles is invulnerable except for his heel and the Greek gods keep interfering in the Trojan War, Yellow Turban leaders have magical powers and Zhang Fei has the strength of 10.000 men.

an extremely creative death threat

Look, if we're going to say chi is like blood, or he'll even life force, the fact that a woman can create life makes its own case

But no one will have such strong chi/Qi during birth because Qi has to be cultivated for many years until it reaches a certain level (Based on my experience of reading wuxia) So clearly the developers of this movie only did surface level research. Not sure if I can trust Disney anymore

Fun thing is that chi is basically better translated as humor, if one wants to use western magical concepts to understand it, although humors don't have much of the flow thing.

I mean, if it means this movie doesn't have to happen...

-your worst nightmare.

Don't forget to dishonor China.

DISHONER ON YOUR MOUSE IS CRAZY-

The original Chinese phoenix is very different from the phoenix that rises from the ashes.

@@inoli3164 Yes, I know. The fenghuang is simply immortal. The whole "rising from the ashes" thing would be symbolic here--the phoenix merely shedding her human guise.

So, pitch instead a Deborah Sampson biopic that has her get super powers from blood pressure.

I just thought they didn't want unnecessary additional CGI stuff

@@606aichan7O7 opposite to what? Unneccesary CGI like a witch's superpowers?

@@luchomscyfy I haven't seen it yet so I didn't pay much attention It's not opposite to anything? I'm just saying I thought they just didn't want to create a model of a dragon that would be somewhat realistic yet similar to the animation, because he probably would be in a lot of scenes. A whole model, as opposed to BG stuff just seems like a lot if they cared about world building..if that made sense....??? -but Chinese martial arts stuff usually has a lot of CGI anyway, so I'd assume that was kinda a normal decision

that sounds like Disney making an excuse to not research whether black people hung out in ancient china (spoiler: they did and, vice-versa, chinese people hung out in africa as well). like, on the one hand, chinese dragons are pretty rooted to chinese geography - they bring rain and cause earthquakes and are rivers, etc - but, like, if they didn't want to just, idk check through 5000 years of chinese recorded history for existing instances of african immigrants &/or visiting dignitaries or whatever, they could have just. hired an actor who was both black and chinese? it would be a HUGE step in on-screen mixed race representation and plenty of people would jump at the chance to be involved, be it as a shape-shifted bird spirit, a dragon, or a dragon statue. but Hollywood apparently only knows that ethnic minorities can find each other attractive but NOT that, maybe, they'd end up having mixed-race kids together who might then go on to be actors and comedians struggling to find work because they're simultaneously not black enough AND not asian enough. the whole "dragons are too ~SACRED~" thing smells like Disney dodging the chinese government's ire at the suggestion that black people exist in chinese history &/or white Hollywood not being able to compute the idea of ethnic minorities teaming up outside shared tokenism in majority-white groupings.

who cares about what happens next the whole movie is wrong anyway. Cries in offended Chinese.

Olive _ Dragon its Asian Elsa but without any of the humor or iconic music/moments that excused the terrible story 💀😂😂

You know what Mulan lacked amd Elsa has? ELSA HAS PERSONALITY.

tbh, Chinese Ma'Rey "Not Skywalker" Palpatine Sue would be much more accurate

@@Fisinocean nah, Elsa only personality is her song. Anything else about her is bland. In my opinion, Anna is the more flesh out character

@@zuzuzuko3947 well then again, its a musical and most of elsa scene is a song while 'mulan' just fails man

They did see it as a real artform. They are making these movies to make extra money. That's all. And the sad thing is, it's working.

@@avivastudios2311 I meant more the culture's tendency to prioritize live action as some objectively superior form of storytelling. If there hadn't been a market for "better" versions of these childhood classics, Disney wouldn't have pursued them.

American animation tends to look ugly and be shitty, to be fair

Honestly out of the few I've had to sit through Jungle Book (2016) is one I enjoyed despite some of it's flaws

@@jharris3110 a lot of people say that was the best Disney remake but I was just bored by that one.

Wait, you actually worked on THIS film? I think that idea was good though ... If we didn't get any character development of Mulan, at least we would have gotten the phoenix's 'character' development

@nanwijanarko1969 Yeah it was a huge mess project wise. I was doing lookdev for the phoenix for probably near 8 months, the client just really didn't know what they wanted. which i guess is why they ended up scrapping it and all the scenes of Mulan actually interacting with the character when they needed to cut stuff for time. what showed up on screen was only the final, fully evolved form. I do think it could have been a nice metaphor for growth, even if it was a bit of a standin for actually writing character development lol

Just like that one rabbit saying, they totally missed the point.

Also putting MAGICK in it IN MY PERCEPTION is like copying Elsa from Frozen, I DON'T THINK THEY WANT IT TO BE ACCURATE BUT RATHER A KIDDIE MOVIE

I mean, it's not like she's the only one that can fight like this.

That is actually a really good point, I hadn't thought of it that way, but now I understand. You have to be something *beyond human* to best a man as a woman. That is deeply insulting.

@@woofwoof8146 i mean its also true

I started my anime blog that I've had for 10 years just because I was mad that Barnes and Noble had stopped carrying my favorite anime magazines. Let the hate flow through you...

Hahaha. Just like how the channel "Girlfriend Reviews" blew up after making a review on Red Dead Redemption 2.

And I'm here for it! Let the shenanigans begin! :D

@@naomistarlight6178 Indeed brother

I liked and subbed right there.

im like 6 months late but xiran uses they/them iirc!! not mad ya ofc

@Lucky Lila Yeah, despite how much liberty the OG animation took with the Chinese cultural symbols, it at least had symbolism.

Bisexual legend Shang! NOOOOOooooo......

I'm so glad that I didn't watch it in the movie. When I first saw the trailer I was sstill looking forward to it. I didn't believe that it would be similiar to the animation but I expected that there would be some character growth and someone like Shang who would support her and makes her do her best. At least I didn't waste my time and money. This review is very entertaining.

I read that they removed Shang because of the "person on a position of power- subordinate" situation might be insensitive, specially since the movie was made round the time Harvey Weinstein was exposed... They could have place Shang's father (who was in the animated movie) as the person in charge and place Shang in the same level as Mulan and it would have worked

@@marinadeburgos8666 yeah but that Harvey Weinstein is a western thing that should have nothing to do with the peace that tries to be a period piece while also being mythological lore

That’s so true. I got more entertainment from the cricket then the entire live action film. I got more entertainment from the background soldiers then the entire 2020 movie

You mean cow

Damn every horse in that movie

Cow* ugh people these days can't even identify an animal 🙄

She's Chinese Rey Skywalker, what can you expect

Honestly I feel like the more likely response is "wow this didn't do good in asia which was the target of this movie..they must not appreciate our movies! Lets just avoid doing stuff on them so they don't get pissed at us for it"

Han Dynasty huh? Cool! I’m a Ming Dynasty guy myself

Damn lol

I think kung fu panda is THE movie of how to do chinese culture in a movie.

@@alexanderbemu6190 honestly, knowing nothing abt Chinese culture, im so glad kung fu panda did it right

If this is true (from a Chinese perspective), I'd be happy to say I love those movies and they are severely underrated.

thats why I love dreamworks followed by Pixar. No political bullcrap in DreamWorks and they keep it traditional for gender romance and family values like how it should be.

@@drakke125Channel um,Abominable 2019? Yes... DreamWorks tried to suck up to Chinese govt with that movie. But at least that movie is watchable and not a total trainwreck. This,Mulan however....bruh... They didnt get a single thing right with this movie,not even the costumes

Fortune cookies are something American Chinese stole from the Japanese. Chop suey is what you're really looking for. It's a food dish that's the epitome of westernized Chinese cuisine.

It's an incredible Insult to the Source Material.

Aesthelie I like how this movie doesn’t even appeal to the Chinese or western markets

Bwhahahahahaha it’s Panda Express

You guys forgot mulan was a brave transgender woman

Yes!

There's was never any bisexual undertone. Shang was never interested in Mulan that way when she disguised as a man. He saw her as a comrade in the army and then asked her out when he realized she was a woman. Idk where people got Shang was bi. Yall interpret two dudes having some semblance of friendship = romantic and that's kinda encouraging toxic masculinity. Pls normalize men having friendship thanks. And as a side note, the whole "girl cross dress as dude and end up with male lead falling" for them is EXTREMELY common in asian media (Hana Kimi, Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Maiden Holmes etc). The month Mulan came out there were 2 Chinese dramas airing with woman disguise as man theme. The tired trope isn't play as the male lead is bi, it is more like he would always sense her "womanly pheromone" no matter how she disguise herself kind of thing since most of the time the actresses always look/behave feminine that they would never pass for a man realistic

@@Momocham23 I’d recommend watching Xiran Jay Zhao’s video on Mulan 1998, she talks a briefly about why it seemed like he was bi.

Jyuri is right, though it would be nice to have some more diverse representation, it's frustrating(as someone who is bi), when people see a friendship and forcefully interpret it as being romantic. Not everything needs to be about romance and, looking back, a romantic vibe wasn't really present in the cartoon, I don't think. That comment about "rape culture" is especially confusing.

​@@J_Lynn Ok yeah fair, the whole "Shang is bi" idea isn't accurate. It's more of a meme than anything tbh. As for the "rape culture" thing, that was my entire point: Disney claiming that's why they cut him is complete bs, since there really wasn't a romantic relationship between the two throughout the film.

I think that the cartoon has the advantage that it's pretty old.

as a fellow chinese i agree. the cartoon has some flaws but it's enjoyable otherwise and is able to deliver the message right. but THIS MOVIE??? nope. not at all. cant even follow the original ballad right

Also the warped chinese makeup just feels like chinese backface and should be just as condemnable.

The first Mulan was still good despite it's slight issues.

There's no historical accurate timeline because it's set in a FICTIONAL fantasy universe. Do you think other Disney princess movies are based in a historically accurate time in Europe? Hell no. There is a historic period they're SET in, but that's really as far as it goes in regards to historical and/or cultural accuracy; so not accurate at all.

At least they are honest. Still horrible but honest

@@digitaltailsmon4096 Bob Iger is following the principles of Eisner. He also says that making money is Disney's only objective.

Disney: *i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that*

Aaaa I was the 505 like! Anyone knows that AM reference??

you didn't pay attention, that wasnt her fathers armor she ditched, she got a whole new set of armor when she joined the army. if you going to hate at least check your facts.

@@BingDwenDwen even in european medival times armor was either privatly owned or from your landliege, the only part of the army that had issued armor was the tiny standing army they had, levee troops had them not issued. I doubt it was different in China. Everything not akin to an knight or house guard had gambeson and an helmet, at home, so they where able to defend the place they where living in. To equip an whole army would not be practical for exact this reason. So the armor she ditched was either her fathers or historical inaccurate armor. She wears what would have been top notch stuff, expensive stuff, never issued to normal troops.

​@@pouncepounce7417 we are not talking about historical facts here, we are talking about the movie. the armor she wore to get to camp was a different and oversized armor than the one she went to battle with, it look totally different. check the movie again.

this movie needed many things, but it especially needed Eddie Murphy

Right? I was excited about the historically accurate stuff so I didn't care about the things they removed. But 15 minutes into this movie and now I think the original is way more life-like than this one

@Desdemona And a Witch! We can't forget Disney said talking animals were too fantastical and then turned around and gave us a friggin' Wtich! (facepalm)

It took me a lot of time to think What the fucking Chi is he talking about XDXDXD It is so confused to link the Chi in this movie to the Chi in Chinese culture XD Further more, if you can use Chi that powerful like that witch ancient Chinese will probably worship you as a god no matter what gender u r............

Yeah, wouldn't a phoenix be indicative of the Hua clan being of royal blood rather than a nobody farmer family?

Switch to real Asian dramas. They still get it right. Hollywood is so lifeless right now.

Hollywood forgot animation is just a format. Japan's full-on embraced it and China's just remembered.

i hope people in the west start seeing animation as a serious medium rather than just "cartoons for kids"

@@DragonLandlord I agree. Animation isn' a genre, it's a medium/format, just like the type of film a movie is shot on, or whatever.

And try to be accurate where the animators and storytellers research before working on it, which is why they take years to complete.

Most of these “chosen one” stories are Asian

Which wouldn't technically be a bad thing, but pleeeaaase don't market it as culturally correct movie, because it wasn't. It was a fantasy story that kidnapped mulan's name and selective pieces of chinese culture.

@@shadowmoon1657 Wait, didn't she said that half of the Eastern Asian stories are "work hard to earn it" stories?

Neo ~

@@feedesylvestre3200 yeah but mulan 2020 is about being a chosen one and not hard work to earn the trust and loyalty

this is somehow a perfect analogy 😂

uzumaki_rakku this comment is too accurate

this analogy had no business being so good!

Is it weird I've seen a person put soy sauce on spaghetti?

@@mythoughtsexactly2145 Fusion spaghettis exist, but done well lol. This movie is simply dumping soy sauce on spaghetti=ruinin it.

Executive meeting: people love the Avengers, how about we make more of it?

Damn

I love Marvel, but I wanted a Disney princess movie :/

@Sean even a shot for shot line fore like remake of the cartoon mulan would have been better

Yeah that was my issue with it, the Mulan cartoon was amazing. It taught young girls that they can become strong even if they aren’t at first. And to never give up even if you might be put matched. But this Mulan was like “Oh I’m already a strong warrior” it just lacked growth and that was sad.

We have Asian Elsa already. Frosta from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power and she’s adorable!

@@jeffreygao3956 she would probably punch your eye out for calling her cute

@@eldritchcupcakes3195 That's cold!

We have Scottish Elsa too, but without the superpowers. She's just a great archer and her mother has great fashion sense.

@@jeffreygao3956 puns are too funny ahahah

No it is before and after the vampire visit!

That makes Mulan genderfluid, which is about as close to representation we're going to get from Disney, so enjoy it

@Depressed Gay Wizard *crying* hOw CoUlD tHeY

@Depressed Gay Wizard right 💔

Lasers and Feelings.

I agree

It wasn’t perfect but it had a lot of heart poured into it

also it was still faithful to the essence of the original ballad in a few ways: notably mulan having to work hard to become a capable soldier -- like she was still a bit of a tomboy in the animation, but more in the "kinda messy and all over the place" rather than the "not like other girls bc she likes swords and can do backflips" kinda tomboy, and regardless still participated in the duties expected in her as a woman -- that she did it precisely to protect her father and how she went straight home after the war because she wasn't doing it for notoriety or anything. there were western "flavourings" to the whole thing (establishing mulan as a bit "different" -- but again, mainly in personality and habits rather than abilities -- the over-emphasis of "honour", the musical aspect and animal sidekick, the haircutting, for example) but it had a central heart to the story, carried the core resonance from the ballad, AND knew what it was doing when it came to emotionally impacting the audience. i'm chinese and i remember talking to my mom about it, and she too thought the mulan animated movie was pretty well-done and was accurate to the ballad in all the right parts (don't even get me started on how the ballad is VERY short so i don't blame people for wanting to embellish things....just not like mulan 2020 please.) also at least when mulan cut her hair in the original animation it absolutely slapped. the music, the lightning, the reflection in the sword. THE CHILLS.

Like pretty much any other Disney animated film ever made before the 2000’s, it was inaccurate but full of watchable fun.

The original had so many powerful scenes and messages. Mulan was my favorite Disney Princess when I was a kid because I always tried my hardest in sports and I wanted to be strong and smart like her.

Frosta is Asian Elsa and she's cute!

Not if they didn't hire any Chinese people ;)

welcome to what whitewashing a production team does to an attempted 'culturally accurate' movie

It is even read in Germany in elementary school when we talk about China.

ya i was taught the poem when i was in 6th grade and mulan was a normal girl who was sewing something and only became a fighter to save her father because he was too old and she didnt want him to die in war. she also didnt have superpowers oof disney rly went and westernized it😔

applesauce gdi imagine America doing that 😔 uncultured gang. I think I'll read it in my own time because I appreciate parts of chinese history and my ties to it since I'm partly chinese and I am so mad at this suburban wine mom take on an otherwise good movie that I need good writing to wash away the feeling of "oh wow, the stupid actually hurts".

It's chi is beyond imagining.

@@wyntertheicewyvern6226 Truly it will bring honour to us all.

@@Tyurru360 if you had such a horse, its chi, the boundless energy of life itself, would you tell it only a son could wield chi?

HAHA this comment & thread made me laugh, thanks all.

XD

The greatest pirate that ever lived was a woman. Chinese as well, for a matter of fact.

Cheng I Sao?

Fellow Extra Credit History viewers?

@@valentinmitterbauer4196 yep, i feel like more people should know about that

lol that cracked me up too, but i think she forgot to mention that wu zetian was also one of the better emperors of the tang dynasty in china.

That scene has a whole new meaning for me! Thank you

That scene was also a meta transition for the movie itself. No more songs, no more jovial fish out of water humor. From here on it's all...real, in a story sense. The reality of war slaps them, and the audience in the face and there's no going back.

I’m not... I’m not crying! 😭

Wow, I had never realized that

@@Luinta that transition would have worked better if they didnt go straight back into comedy for the climax of the film. I think had the climax been more realistic and grounded(like the lion king) it would have been more satisfying. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed the call back to the climbing the pole and the way Mulan disarmed the Hun leader...but the whole using fruits to incapacitate the other huns soilders and the men having to cross dress(where did they get the time to do so?) And The hun leader being killed by fireworks(launched by Mushu not even Mulan) its all very slapstick and not really fitting with the tone that the transition into a cold war epic created. I liked the animated movie but the climax is the weakest part.

Lmaooooo 🤣🤣🤣

correct

LMAO

does this mean that mulan is a karen

raybrandt and shops at Hobby Lobby

@@Scortch-lo3xy she killed a lot of people on her way to the throne including her children and grand children

Wu Zhetian being one of the most successful Emperor of all of China

I laughed SO HARD at that moment I had to pause xD

@@zamiraarts5435 Strangely the "A-Z awesome women of history"-style picture book owned by the small girl I nanny failed to mention the child murder in their "W" entry ...

Wasn’t it proven she didn’t murder her children? Since the rumour started like 400 years after her death? I may be wrong, but this line is still hilarious

Chinese Hell? I think I would just credit it as the underworld. Are you Chinese?

JGN CHANNEL dude, the creator herself said Chinese hell and she’s Chinese. Watch the video before accusing someone Dingus. It’s at 11:03

JGN CHANNEL chill. I only quoted what she said. See the “ ”? The only thing I said was the three emojis.

@@SailorSaturn4 My apologies, I'm actually one of those person who watches a video while scrolling on the comment section. I'm really sorry.... Imma subscribe to say sorry

​@@heneralantonioluna8725 地狱 basically means hell in Chinese. Why are you correcting others when you don't even know our culture?

Sapphire Wolf 💀😭

This made me burst out laughing 😅🤣

Lmfao 😂😂😂

LMAO, ikr

BAHAHAHAHAHA

I literally just watched this film after waiting for a year or so. I THOUGHT THE OBVIOUS TWIST WAS THAT SHE WOULD ATTACK BORI KHAN. OK, Disney took me by surprise by not going that route. I think I only liked it well enough (More than Lion King 2019 and I ADORE The Lion King in the other formats) because they used the music, even if Reflection never hit that high note. I still prefer the original and am well aware I'm a white disabled girl lucky enough to not be locked away like I probably would be there. And very blind to whatever problems are in China compared to Britain. I may go and copy-paste Grandma into this film now.

Which is what I call a "Mary Sue" for the live action.

fr tho-

Cartoon: Boys and girls are both capable of fighting for and protecting loved ones, but girls aren't allowed in the army, so *disguises!* (Also, bigger range of emotion.) Live action: Too bad I was born a girl. Woe is me, I have to lie. 🤷 Yup, totally agree. Funny how the animated version has more depth than the live action abomination.

aka CHINESEs jedi powers

The cartoon: I'm an ordinary girl who uses my own wits to solve problems and save my country The live action: "i'M noT lIkE OTher GiRLs!"

i think that might be because the Rock went so hard for making it accurate and respectful.

But they work closely with the communist party of China and they aprroved everything

@@taquitoxiq1444 props to him because moana is a genuinely good movie that shows a lot about a culture to people who probably wouldn't have known about it otherwise

Some people have criticized Moana for having, in their view, a too western plot line. Taika Waititi was the first person to submit a script, which he said was very different from the end result. He has said that he found the end product respectful and not insulting.

@@stareyedwitch fair criticism, but it's still miles better than Mulan 2020.

H O N O R

Restore the H O N O R!

@Kopal Gupta hahaha 🤣😂 thank you for the laugh^^

"You have dishonored the franchise and so have dishonored me. The time has come to reclaim my honor you dishonorably dishonored by honorably honoring my honorable honor." -Dante Basco (the voice of Zuko)

Zuko: My honorrrrrrrr

Cursa Pear she has so many amazing lines!

She's not wrong. Romance of the Three Kingdom mixed both Historical and Fictional event.

This applies to most literature to be honest (e.g. in Europe: Illyad/Odyssee, Sagas, Arthuriana, etc.)

Not to mention journey to the west. It supposed to be a solo trip but ends up with a bunch of nonsense 😂 but at least thanks to journey to the west we have dragon ball

yeah, that is pretty much it... the story of Wong Fei Hung for example, it's all fictional made up by his student but it is base on the real person with a museum dedicated to him back at his birth place Fushan. China have alot of story like this, it's fiction that base on real event.. Romance of Three Kingdom is the most well known fiction that kinda loosely base on historical event...

There were some inaccuracies in the original that were *definitely* lined with racist undertones, but overall it’s infinitely better than this pathetic excuse of a “movie”.

​@@slumbercommentatorracist undertones, I've watched it a lot, never saw those, care to elaborate?

@@andrewgreeb916 tbh I’m not the person to ask (I’m not Chinese, nor am I a history nerd), but iirc the poster of the video we’re commenting on has a video going over it that I have to recommend.

​@andrewgreeb916 the video about the animated Milan discusses it more but the nomads are portrayed in a really racist way I think is the big thing? I'm not an expert

@@r4tt1s yeah, the depiction of the Huns is really racist in the original Mulan. they are meant to be mongolian people

Great use of reference!

This 👌

"No matter how the wind howls, the mountain cannot bow to it." Sorry to be pedantic, it's just such a cool line I needed to put it out there.

@@Nintendon85 beat me to it by one hour lol

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Nice goat

Same.

Frosta from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power is the real Asian Elsa.

Frozen is overrated trash