Everything Wrong With Raya and the Last Dragon In 19 Minutes Or Less

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Raya and the Last Dragon has a lot of cool elements and interesting ideas. It's definitely a Disney movie. Oh well, it's got plenty of sins.
Next week: recent action sins & animated sins from a handful of years ago.
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@quartzquality5213
@quartzquality5213 2 роки тому
The "idea" of dragons running on water in the air instead of actually flying / levitating is actual Chinese mythology
@Xenium57
@Xenium57 2 роки тому
That may be why he took off a sin
@lifeisgood6279
@lifeisgood6279 2 роки тому
@Eugene Oisten what do you mean. The dragons reference in the movies are based on chinese dragons. The dragons resemble the types of wingless long serpentine dragons from chinese myth and the thought that the death of a dragon causes the thing it represents to disappear is similar to how in taoist myths the deities are direct links or physical manifestations of the thung their linked to.(because dragons are also somethings considered to be divinity or are straight up just gods). Also that pose that petrified people get into is a stance commonly found in chinese statues mostly of mortals asking for forgiveness. So it has tons of chinese myths aspects incorperated into it
@lifeisgood6279
@lifeisgood6279 2 роки тому
@Eugene Oisten true but the most widely known ones are from taoist and (technically) buddist religion both of which are known as 2 of the three largest religion of china for most of its existence. Yes i know buddhism orginated in india but the most well known stories were popularised from china not south east asia. How do i know this, cause i live in south east asia and the origin of most of my nations buddhist and taoist teachings come for china. I know hindism also has wingless dragons and japan has them as well but they are simply less well known so the assumption that the movie was indpired by taoist or buddhist beliefs is not wrong. Bruh
@nine8660
@nine8660 2 роки тому
@Eugene Oisten Lol it's based off of Asian Mythology, they're literally Vietnamese
@lifeisgood6279
@lifeisgood6279 2 роки тому
@Eugene Oisten also china has been know for 3 major religions buddhism,taoism and confucionism most of which have their own local myths,legends and beliefs. And the idea that dragons are linked to water and rivers are connected to taoisms 4 directional dragon kings which are the most well known wingless dragons i believe. Perhaps i should stop arguing if you lump all three very distinct religious practices as 'chinese religion'
@sr7046
@sr7046 2 роки тому
The theme of this movie is “trust people no matter how much they hurt you”. That should be a sin.
@Kim4ever1234
@Kim4ever1234 2 роки тому
yea, i feel like it oversimplified the concept, esp for children
@ZETH_27
@ZETH_27 2 роки тому
The theme is humans are dicks, dragons are awesome and since it's a kids-movie it somehow works out in the end despite mountains worth of contradicting evidence.
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 2 роки тому
Thought it was globalization, because Disney needs to make international dollars
@Tempusmon
@Tempusmon 2 роки тому
@@Kim4ever1234 It feels like at some earlier stage the whole trust thing was going to go both ways as every time Raya warned Sisu to stay put or be careful because she was familiar with the people and they were untrustworthy Sisu didn't trust her assessment and ended up either almost dying, getting both of them trapped, or dying.
@FengTheSlayer
@FengTheSlayer 2 роки тому
Technically it’s more deeper than that but the movie’s pacing does feel like it was moving too fast to flesh out the characters more
@-Secret
@-Secret 2 роки тому
I like the graphics, I liked the voice acting, I hated that stupid baby, and I liked the potential this movie had, HOWEVER the movie felt forced, and they spent so much time trying to give this movie a back story that they really didnt give us a chance to build an emotional bond with either of them. On top of that the message was very damaging and toxic, not at all something I'd want children to learn. Basically it was saying to trust people who mean you harm, forgive and forget people that never even bothered to apologize nor make things right towards you, that people who have done wrong deserve little to no consequences for their actions. In reality this is a horrible message. What I dislike most is the fact that they tried to paint Raya out to be the bad guy for RIGHTFULLY feeling the way that she did. The creators meant well, but their message does more harm then good. Most importantly, I REALLY hated that baby.
@ryliefeinour9186
@ryliefeinour9186 2 роки тому
I hate the baby as well! It is just so over exaggerated and it annoyed me the first time I watched the movie and still does! I’m glad someone else finally shares the same opinion.
@-Secret
@-Secret 2 роки тому
@@ryliefeinour9186 EXACTLY!!!!
@davidhayes7609
@davidhayes7609 2 роки тому
I agree about the baby lol but I definitely don't think trusting people and forgiving is a bad message to be telling kids... I suppose you would disagree with the Bible for the same reason?
@Scenario_animations
@Scenario_animations 2 роки тому
@@davidhayes7609 But here is the problem. The movie took time to explain how raya trusted this random person just for her to ruin her ENTIRE COUNTRY. This makes the trust message seem outlandish.
@tulips7465
@tulips7465 2 роки тому
I REALLY F*CKING HATED THE BABY AS WELL!
@sdg6801
@sdg6801 2 роки тому
"Someone's stolen Fang's dragon scroll" *Angry Kung-Fu Panda noises*
@jocelynecupcake
@jocelynecupcake 2 роки тому
Kung fu panda movies are better
@Playfast12
@Playfast12 2 роки тому
This made me spit out apple juice all over my dog 🤣🤣🤣
@Thetravelingmonke
@Thetravelingmonke 2 роки тому
@@Playfast12 noo the poor dog
@Cartoonandanimelove1
@Cartoonandanimelove1 2 роки тому
I honestly think this movie had SO much potential. The animation was insane, the actors were well chosen. The issue is the plot was much too ambitious to fit properly into such a short movie. They rushed through way too many important details. Oh and the weird quirky modern-day relatable jokes were way cringe...
@SashaRomeroMusic
@SashaRomeroMusic 2 роки тому
@@No-ue5pi I mean Disney animations have always done that, it's just that when you're a kid, that's just how people talk. It's only adults who grow up learning modern lingo, rather than being born into it, who feel like it's an out of place thing. Like, what do you think Robin William's Genie was?
@aidenwalk1118
@aidenwalk1118 2 роки тому
This should have been a show
@theyellowmeaning7507
@theyellowmeaning7507 2 роки тому
@@SashaRomeroMusic but come on, a group project and credit? that has literally 0 context even compared to a robin williams impression of a cultural stereotype.
@SashaRomeroMusic
@SashaRomeroMusic 2 роки тому
@@theyellowmeaning7507 the Genie sings The Stars and Stripes Forever by John Philip Sousa, an American Patriotic March. You tell me how that makes any more sense.
@dariustellama3303
@dariustellama3303 2 роки тому
@@SashaRomeroMusic because the Genie is all powerful versus some random kids saying modern day lingo. It seems a lot more believable in the Genie’s case for that reason although both movies seemingly take place in the past.
@pher170
@pher170 2 роки тому
Raya: "Each Island was named after a part of the body" That one small island in between Right leg and Left leg: *._.*
@matthewdouglas8368
@matthewdouglas8368 2 роки тому
Woah.. lets not make assumptions 😂
@PanSpaceman
@PanSpaceman 2 роки тому
Horn 2
@toomuchtime4896
@toomuchtime4896 2 роки тому
But the dragon is made up of water, not islands. Wouldn't it rather be a "river arm"?
@megonggaga8046
@megonggaga8046 2 роки тому
An island full of kitty cat
@aaronworthing1023
@aaronworthing1023 2 роки тому
Hey, maybe you got the genders wrong and there are two mountainous islands around the chest region… 😜
@paulbennett2284
@paulbennett2284 2 роки тому
(opening line) Raya - “I know what you’re thinking “ Me - “How are you staying upright on that ball?”
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 2 роки тому
I would have apricated that as a sin rather than narration. We get it Jeremy, YOU dont like it, however its needed in some stories to explain what the hell is going on. You would have complained that you didn't understand the backstory if there wasn't narration
@vincevvn
@vincevvn 2 роки тому
@@dustyrose192 agree, I enjoy narration when it’s done right.
@Thetravelingmonke
@Thetravelingmonke 2 роки тому
Witch craft which is why why she ended up floating
@Tsukasamimi
@Tsukasamimi Рік тому
I thought she was sitting on a saddle?
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Рік тому
@Tsukasamimi She was on a saddle.
@dchuricci
@dchuricci 2 роки тому
The fact that Raya trusted someone despite knowing them for probably only 20 minutes and then CONTINUED to trust her even after she is revealed to be in possession of something she shouldn't be in possession of deserves a sin, maybe even ten of them.
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
If she had been presented as naively optimistic beforehand, maybe not-but up until right before the other nations arrived she was all about how to fight them off because she just assumed they were coming to attack. I guess maybe she thought “if this girl disobeyed her fellow delegates to get that thing, maybe she’s more likely to be on my side than on their side”?
@masterxl97
@masterxl97 2 роки тому
I liked this movie, but I have a feeling it’s original pitch was WAAAAAAY more interesting before Disney got ahold of it and put their “Disney Animated Movie Checklist” fingerprints all over it.
@LeviathanLP
@LeviathanLP 2 роки тому
Right? Imagine if they'd addressed the obvious idea that the reason all other nations are so vicious is because Heart is hoarding all the remaining dragon magic for themselves rather than sharing it with the rest of the world. Imagine if it had been a short series instead of a movie.
@peytonburnsed2196
@peytonburnsed2196 2 роки тому
Seriously, why does Disney have to do that?
@artemizz8708
@artemizz8708 2 роки тому
who "owned" Raya before Disney?
@pebbleslikesthings
@pebbleslikesthings 2 роки тому
raya had so much potential but disney didn’t explore it well. i honestly would’ve preferred to see raya travel with just sisu and boun and focus more on them and the other main characters. i wanna know more about namaari and her perspective
@theinfiniteconqueror
@theinfiniteconqueror 2 роки тому
@@LeviathanLP Give this exact concept to Bryke and they'd do wonders with it. What completely ruined the movie for me is that in typical disney fashion you know that its gonna have a happy ending. So when they say that the dragon gem can bring everyone back to life you realize there are no stakes at all.
@kadelin3318
@kadelin3318 2 роки тому
I'm surprised you didn't sin Sisu's annoying "trust strangers that are trying to trick you, steal from you and ruin the world" messages.
@diegopansini3152
@diegopansini3152 2 роки тому
I’m sure the message has the right idea, but man did they deliver it terribly 😂
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 2 роки тому
Yeah this movie is painting itself as a “you need to learn to let the past go and trust again” story when it should be a “sometimes you just can’t trust people and you need to stop being so damn naive” story
@waitselljones8068
@waitselljones8068 2 роки тому
The point is that people don't trust each other because they're assuming you're going to screw them over, but if you show them a little bit of trust they may put faith in you. Which is exactly what happened. Sisu is a bit naive but she is ultimately right. Otherwise they would not have been able to gather people from each nation.
@kadelin3318
@kadelin3318 2 роки тому
@@waitselljones8068 Yeah I'm going to assume the girl that tricked me into giving her what ruined the world and is now holding a crossbow to the face of my savior dragon friend after I tried trusting her again is going to screw me over. It's the logical assumption and everytime Sisu ignored it she got screwed over. It's like going to a terrorist base and saying "I trust you won't shoot me"
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 2 роки тому
Plus some of the people Raya is being asked to trust are just evil people. The sadistic old woman who was sending people out to the woods to die and was about to murder Sisu being a prime example
@CameronMetrejean
@CameronMetrejean 2 роки тому
Really surprised you didn’t sin Namari’s “ you’re just as much to blame for Sisu‘s death as I am”
@Jay-jb6wm
@Jay-jb6wm 2 роки тому
I feel like this movie could have been vastly improved if 1) Raya and Nemari had known each other for longer than a day, making the "betrayal" more impactful and, ya know, a betrayal; 2) They omitted the whole flashback to when they were kids entirely. I think it would have been much more interesting if the first time we learn about the betrayal (and her losing her father) is when Raya is doing the ritual and says "I trusted someone I shouldn't have," and we only learn more about it as the story progresses, instead of literally being handed it. It would also make the confrontation scene in the cave a lot more dramatic and tense since we wouldn't know who Nemari is at that point or her past relationship to Raya. And before anyone complains, yes, I know this is a kids movie, but that doesn't mean there can't be improvements or critiques.
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
Oh, I thought the scene when young Raya and young Namaari were playing that Would You Rather game wasn’t the same day they had first met. Sure, they were wearing the same things but Namaari’s mom wears the same dress all the time so that doesn’t prove anything. They seemed a lot more familiar with each other than having met only hours ago would suggest.
@wisteria3032
@wisteria3032 2 роки тому
I agree. Somehow in the last few years the message has passed that things intended for children must be dumbed down. Children are extremely intelligent - there are lots of things they don't know of course and some of them seem absurd to adults but they aren't stupid: quite the opposite they are curious and even if you don't give them all the answers they will find their own. If you make a good movie then it may be too difficult for little children. That's ok - they will still manage to follow the story and it will be loved by older people. At most they will get bored. If you make a stupid movie (and this movie make the viewer feel stupid) no one will like it and the little children will get bored anyway.
@cantfindc4rti
@cantfindc4rti 2 роки тому
they should hire u
@dobbysboggart6883
@dobbysboggart6883 2 роки тому
Scholoryteller has a great video revising Raya.
@SteampunkHorse
@SteampunkHorse 2 роки тому
no I'm completely with you. I wish Disney had hired you for this movie
@themoldysausage
@themoldysausage 2 роки тому
Wait, no sins for the fart bugs? Jeremy, you're slacking.
@genevieveowusu885
@genevieveowusu885 2 роки тому
Yeah, those were stupid.
@kirbythepup5926
@kirbythepup5926 2 роки тому
Yeah they should be "ripped" right out of the story 😁
@untilted5216
@untilted5216 2 роки тому
@@kirbythepup5926 loooolll
@dua_junaid
@dua_junaid 2 роки тому
I can't believe he didn't make a counter for the amount of times they said "trust" in this movie.
@FFelxi
@FFelxi 2 роки тому
420th like
@ScruFaceJeanOfficial
@ScruFaceJeanOfficial 2 роки тому
“He’s straight up drippin” was the highlight of this video
@brogrammerplus7683
@brogrammerplus7683 2 роки тому
I would say that the avatars reference was, but I see what ur talking about XD
@Buzz-Killjoy
@Buzz-Killjoy 2 роки тому
Nah, it was the underwire/booby trap joke :D
@jedijonathquan6776
@jedijonathquan6776 2 роки тому
great video over all been waiting for this :D
@itsismylife-jonbovi3305
@itsismylife-jonbovi3305 2 роки тому
Dang Hai got the drip
@JFrostMusic
@JFrostMusic 2 роки тому
Didn't know scru watched cinema sins 🔥🔥💯
@kobypourciaux1066
@kobypourciaux1066 2 роки тому
Honestly, my biggest problem with this movie, and one of the reasons I feel like its message about trust doesn’t work, is because Raya and Namaari’s relationship is handled really badly and confusingly. The movie acts like they used to be good friends and that they really knew each other, but they didn’t. The only reason Namaari was being nice to Raya to begin with was because she was tricking her into letting her see the gem so she could take it. She literally meets Raya and betrays her in the same scene. I feel like if they did something similar to Moses and Ramses’s relationship from the Prince of Egypt where they grew up together as childhood friends, but due to the ongoing feud with their clans and their parents’ obsession with getting the gem, they slowly drifted apart and became enemies, then that would be a much more compelling and heartbreaking story, and it would at least give Raya a slightly better reason for being willing to trust her at all again. And I don’t normally say this, but honestly, I think Frozen did a better job with its theme about trust. While I would argue it’s not explicit or the main point of the story, I feel like there is an underlying theme when it comes to Anna and Elsa and how they trust/don’t trust people. Anna is extroverted, energetic, and willing to let anyone into her life, while Elsa is introverted, isolated, and unwilling to let anyone into her life out of fear of accidentally hurting them. The movie shows through Elsa’s isolation and through Hans being the twist villain that being too trustful or too untrustful can be dangerous. That is a way more interesting way to teach a message about trust to kids in my opinion. Anyway, let me know if u agree.
@kabo0m
@kabo0m Рік тому
63 people so far agree with you for a reason! You are 100% correct in your observations! I felt that Frozen had a better story, presentation for that story, better focus, and it all made sense. I mean why would Raya trust Namaari again... After such a betrayal? Raya just met Namaari and ooh they both liked dragons (uh .. wouldn't everyone if the WHOLE WORLD had such respect and honor for dragons who they looked at like gods) and let her see something she was supposed to protect with her life and had trained years to even get the privilege of getting to even see herself? Actually .. that should have been yet another Sin. Raya trains for years to even SEE it yet shows Namaari on the first day they met.
@issyjoy
@issyjoy 2 роки тому
I'd also like to point out that it somehow took Raya 6 YEARS to get to the end of each river section (apparently there were hundreds of river endings but that map had no more than 30 at most) yet somehow she can hop around the whole world in about a day or less when trying to find the gems. Not to mention the way Namari can be ahead if Raya when she just riding her cats while Raya has a motorized dragon boat and a speedy ball of cuteness.
@ariesarchdemon
@ariesarchdemon 2 роки тому
In the movie’s defense, we have to assume that Raya’s mode of transportation the past 6 years has been her obligatory Disney animal companion, as opposed to the boat her and the gang sail on for the rest of the movie. But then that begs the question: why didn’t she just get a boat in the first place?
@angie4662
@angie4662 2 роки тому
Not to mention Namaari went from Tail back to Fang then to Spine then BACK to Fang at the same time as Raya had been going all those other places.
@magolor152
@magolor152 Рік тому
More importantly why did she need to find a dragon to tell her that collecting the orb fragments the best course of action? She could have collected the orb fragments and less than a year on her way to find the dragon buy she spent a whole six years just to find the dragon and then found the gems, she could've saved alot of time taking back the orb fragments as she looked for the dragon
@greglewis102
@greglewis102 2 роки тому
This movie literally feels like a video game story. With mini boss fights, and each location being a level. (And constantly checking the map)
@themilkman3568
@themilkman3568 2 роки тому
Speaking of video games at the start she has kali sticks from modern warfare 2019
@evanschneidau4818
@evanschneidau4818 2 роки тому
@@themilkman3568 I noticed that too
@emilymckelvey2530
@emilymckelvey2530 2 роки тому
I literally was thinking this while watching the movie! I thought the world the story was too big for the runtime of the movie, and could probably be much better expressed in a video game where the world could be properly explored. A video game setting could also make more sense of the ending. Rather than just the world learning to stop hating each other rather randomly, the process could be a little more naturally pushed along in the form of various side quests and such where the main characters learn more about the other people in the world and that they aren’t as bad as they seem. Woulda totally been a cool videogame
@aalllllllexx
@aalllllllexx 2 роки тому
@@emilymckelvey2530 and if it makes you choose in the end to trust or not trust, leaving room for you to fuck up and destroy everything
@TheCumberCoIlective
@TheCumberCoIlective 2 роки тому
Princess Raya Vs the World?
@calmgoodfire4662
@calmgoodfire4662 2 роки тому
I’m still wondering why they didn’t have like 30 guards all willing to commit Mass murder to protect the stone instead of 2 people who would be , so so to want to kill a single person
@SkylerDemness
@SkylerDemness 2 роки тому
My question exactly.
@JoeMama-tw6gu
@JoeMama-tw6gu 2 роки тому
there was a whole security system to protect the stone but if i remember correctly, raya turned it off to let that girl in, and that’s how everyone got to the gem.
@calmgoodfire4662
@calmgoodfire4662 2 роки тому
@@JoeMama-tw6guyea this wouldn’t be problem if there was more guards who be like Yea no raya get tf out
@ballsofplastic
@ballsofplastic 2 роки тому
@@calmgoodfire4662 Nobody was trusted and nobody would be a real guard.
@calmgoodfire4662
@calmgoodfire4662 2 роки тому
@@ballsofplastic yea have them outside and the most loyal at least in front of the traps Like dam raya was a guard and on her first day and the first person she met Disabled traps and let in a random ass girl Like really I’m sure there’s some people in your country that’s loyal enough to do some killing or for the very least be willing to die for the stone
@gabrielathero
@gabrielathero 2 роки тому
Raya: "I just really, really want my Ba back." What Sisu should have replied: "Your Ba? Bi***, i want my entire species back!"
@Cosmic76Guardian
@Cosmic76Guardian 2 роки тому
Bruh, even though the movie is PG, which is impossible to add that line of language, lol. xD
@isadoranurdin4402
@isadoranurdin4402 2 роки тому
@@Cosmic76Guardian wooosh
@user-dx8nl9qm9d
@user-dx8nl9qm9d 2 роки тому
@@Cosmic76Guardian Benchuri (that's it was pronounced, idk how to spell it) it their replacement for the other
@AlyxAesthetics
@AlyxAesthetics 2 роки тому
yeah screw raya for wanting to have her dad back when other people also have problems. obviously her dad being basically dead means nothing and she shouldnt care.
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Рік тому
@William I believe it’s “binturi”.
@Sanngot
@Sanngot 2 роки тому
Raya's biggest flaw is that it tried to cram so much into one movie. There was no time to get attached to any characters, or for them to develop a convincing bond. Imagine if this had been mini series instead. Even if the graphics took a hit, the writers would have had more time to work with to tell a compelling story.
@jsarine
@jsarine 2 роки тому
Best “I don’t need THIS anymore” sin ever. 😂
@BluTru
@BluTru 2 роки тому
Why does it say 11hrs ago
@povotaknight2063
@povotaknight2063 2 роки тому
Patreon.
@NapalmWasTaken
@NapalmWasTaken 2 роки тому
@@BluTru yea the he||
@oofedultra
@oofedultra 2 роки тому
@@BluTru patreon
@walterkipferl6729
@walterkipferl6729 2 роки тому
I wanted to say that… lol
@timdaferretmailman7297
@timdaferretmailman7297 2 роки тому
"Quick, everyone to the water!" Finally! I'm not the only one who was like, "But... There's no water..?" Lol
@TheCumberCoIlective
@TheCumberCoIlective 2 роки тому
I watched this with my brother and SIL and we all immediately said that
@timdaferretmailman7297
@timdaferretmailman7297 2 роки тому
@@TheCumberCoIlective lol
@Wqtercolorsss
@Wqtercolorsss 2 роки тому
I assumed there were other parts of water
@sillysillygoose111
@sillysillygoose111 2 роки тому
@@Wqtercolorsss same
@KT-rp9tx
@KT-rp9tx 2 роки тому
I literally said "there is no water, you morons"
@mrspiffy8587
@mrspiffy8587 2 роки тому
My biggest problem with this movie was the pacing. The plot flies by at breakneck speeds and never gets time to breathe. It feels like their collecting the dragon shards way too quickly and with little difficulty. Cars had the same run time as this movie but feels much longer since the pacing is much slower.
@raylanevermore5238
@raylanevermore5238 2 роки тому
When you gave a sin for Namaari's mom being turned to stone when she's always carrying the scepter with the stone on top, you forgot that Namarri swiped the gem stone during the night and met with Raya. So that sin shouldn't count.
@chrischaboyer611
@chrischaboyer611 2 роки тому
This was the most gorgeous looking thoroughly average movie of the year. Didn't hate it, Didn't love it. It just made me feel nothing
@michaelmedlin3091
@michaelmedlin3091 2 роки тому
perfect description of my feelings towards this movie lol
@caramelizedoni0n
@caramelizedoni0n 2 роки тому
what a description
@Anchor_Productions
@Anchor_Productions 2 роки тому
Well I thought the soundtrack was awesome and the animation was amazing
@christianparrish6647
@christianparrish6647 2 роки тому
@@caramelizedoni0n look it up
@skuffy4930
@skuffy4930 2 роки тому
Your opinion pretty much describes reviews of Shrek The Third.
@DragonGoddess18
@DragonGoddess18 2 роки тому
I can't believe CinemaSins didn't sin the rather unhealthy message this movie attempted to deliver:trust everyone all the time,no matter what. Namaari never apologized about the coup she started when they were kids, stooped to victim-blaming Raya for killing Sisu when it was Namaari herself that brought a crossbow to their negotiation and aimed it at them in the first place.Her mother may have influenced her but in the end, the person who decides how Namaari acts is Namaari herself. She never apologized on-screen and that was a missed opportunity. Sisu's story about how her siblings trusted her with the gem is no way parallel to what Raya went through: Sisu was NOT harmed by what her siblings did, Raya was hurt by Namaari did and once again, Namaari didn't act like the adult she thought she was and apologize to Raya.
@Tempusmon
@Tempusmon 2 роки тому
My favorite part of the trust everyone no matter what message is that the character pushing it the hardest got burned for blindly trusting people three times.
@yamatoedge2425
@yamatoedge2425 2 роки тому
@@Tempusmon I really hate their moral of story. Literally what are they thinking?
@Tempusmon
@Tempusmon 2 роки тому
@@yamatoedge2425 My best guess is that at some earlier stage they were also going to make a point about being too trusting and have the leads find a balance together. This would explain why despite the message seemingly being trust at all costs they actually punish Sisu for blindly trusting people.
@Anon-qp3kt
@Anon-qp3kt 2 роки тому
Feminazis dude.
@dorukhanozen2580
@dorukhanozen2580 2 роки тому
Thank you. Such a missed oppurtunity on teaching kids not to trust everyone while also the importance of apology is gone now.
@Ruler_of_theUniverse
@Ruler_of_theUniverse 2 роки тому
12:13 do you know what else has nine stomachs? A flying bison from avatar the last airbender
@Lemana28021989
@Lemana28021989 2 роки тому
The "she shoots Sisu by the seashore" bit was hilarious! :D Well done!
@CrescentMoon898
@CrescentMoon898 2 роки тому
Sisu: "I've been asleep for 500 years" Cue: Robin Williams Genie
@DavidRay39
@DavidRay39 2 роки тому
Um, no. Genie was in the lamp for 10,000 years. 500 is only 5% of 10,000.
@dogge4649
@dogge4649 2 роки тому
@@DavidRay39 hmm
@chinwenduizenwata6763
@chinwenduizenwata6763 2 роки тому
@@DavidRay39 so she's 5% Robin Williams Genie?
@BlxxdLxst17
@BlxxdLxst17 2 роки тому
@@DavidRay39 it’s a joke
@talitali6092
@talitali6092 2 роки тому
This is the first end credits scene where I got all the references
@bored_potato
@bored_potato 2 роки тому
I feel like this movie also incorporated (too much) "modern slang" in a movie that was supposed to be in a somewhat ancient fantasy set and kinda... felt annoying at some points. Or is it just me?
@Jerepasaurus
@Jerepasaurus 2 роки тому
It was extremely immersion breaking, yeah. Jarring, really.
@PulseAnimations878
@PulseAnimations878 2 роки тому
not just you i really didnt like it it sorta pulled me out of the world
@TenyoChiisai
@TenyoChiisai 2 роки тому
Agreed, I didn't like it. It's a pretty common trope for the comic relief character (the genie in Aladin, Mushu, etc) but in this movie EVERYONE had to have at least a couple of oddly modern yet outdated quibs
@mcdonaldtrump228
@mcdonaldtrump228 2 роки тому
Ya not alone
@laraschroeder5195
@laraschroeder5195 2 роки тому
That how I felt with the whole “dragon nerd” thing
@commander8625
@commander8625 2 роки тому
3:27 The real question is why this test is the final test necessary, especially when that test forces the test taker to use offensive techniques, when a guardian would need to primarily use defensive techniques.
@arcanetech2244
@arcanetech2244 2 роки тому
Movie: Raya and the Last Dragon UKposts: Ah, yes, Moana
@collinxxgrimreap1261
@collinxxgrimreap1261 2 роки тому
No sin for the father acting like his daughter isn’t all a sudden two times the size and age from when they were last together
@JoeMama-yf8dd
@JoeMama-yf8dd 2 роки тому
well he would know that would happen since he knew he was going to be turned to stone and he knows that times still goes on
@JoeMama-yf8dd
@JoeMama-yf8dd 2 роки тому
@@dragonkitty5578 no because raya's father and the rest of the people had heard of the stories or even knew the people who were turned to stone then revived. sisu hadn't heard of all that because she didn't get to see the other dragons get revived. yeah he wouldn't know how much time passed by seeing a girl that looked like raya, and coming to him could only be raya. initially he could be a little shocked but he would definitely recognize her and realize how much time passed.
@riveroverland5902
@riveroverland5902 2 роки тому
@@dragonkitty5578 Raya called him Pa aka dad, she was the only one standing from the direction of the voice. Also any shock he would have would be overpowered by relief and joy.
@nine8660
@nine8660 2 роки тому
He was turned to stone for like 10 years, that's why he didn't age-
@ms_scribbles
@ms_scribbles 2 роки тому
@@dragonkitty5578 If you hadn't noticed, Sisu's a little, uh...touched in the head. Of course she thought no time had passed.
@jackrobertson6808
@jackrobertson6808 2 роки тому
To paraphrase Cinemasins a little: “ This the most visually interesting boring movie I’ve seen in a while.”
@uninterupted
@uninterupted 2 роки тому
Dune?
@coldpuck
@coldpuck 2 роки тому
Too many modern movies in a nutshell.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 роки тому
@@coldpuck ✅💯💯💯
@robertlynch8971
@robertlynch8971 2 роки тому
"the last one is always the right one" is ALWAYS true regardless of movies......why would anyone continue looking for something after they found it?
@CaseyJewels
@CaseyJewels 2 роки тому
It's not that it's the last one they're checking, but the last one period. If Sisu hadn't been at that spot, there were no other spots to check.
@heybatterbatter
@heybatterbatter 2 роки тому
What IS weird however, is that that particular river, the MAIN END of the TAIL wasn't the one she searched first.
@pumpkinbumpkin767
@pumpkinbumpkin767 2 роки тому
when i watched the movie, i called the protagonist 'walmart moana' and the antagonist 'karen'
@altair5072
@altair5072 2 роки тому
also, "revered magical being of untold power is actually a bumbling idiot" cliche
@hughmorris7557
@hughmorris7557 2 роки тому
Am I the only guy who actually likes that cliche? I'm honestly tired of the 'brilliant, emotionless, revered magical being of untold power' thing. the 'bumbling idiot' thing reminds me of God from Monty Python and The Holy Grail. "Oh, don't grovel! One thing I can't stand, it's people groveling!"
@cheeserock1772
@cheeserock1772 2 роки тому
@@hughmorris7557 nah, I like this cliche.
@lifeisgood6279
@lifeisgood6279 2 роки тому
@@hughmorris7557 nope it was designed so you would like it. After all there is literally nothing scarier than the thought of a all powerful being who is emotionless and logic based because this mean they probably will not care for most human life. And this terrifies humanity so the common trope is to picture beings who wield such powers either as overly benevolent( as see in all religions mostly) or bumbling lovable idiots ( as since in most media). Because it is natural to fear emotionless inhuman beings so its only natural you as a human and as a mortal would like the idea of a flawed or more humane wielder of extreme power. Even though most beings of extreme power are likely not idiots because of well literally all we know about what responisblities such power holds. Of course, clinging and liking such a trope is your minds effort of hope that if such beings actually exist they wouldnt be too cold or emotionless towards humanity. So no you would not be the only one but the more pessimisstic humans would believe in a more emotionless depiction because negativity. So nope you arent special or strange, its only natural you do
@pathetic2399
@pathetic2399 2 роки тому
@@hughmorris7557 It wasn’t about whether you like the cliche or not. Also you’re never the only one to anything. There’s always going to be someone that feels the same way as you.
@justsomewoomywithamustache4481
@justsomewoomywithamustache4481 2 роки тому
I actually like this cliche
@kenzosarad368
@kenzosarad368 2 роки тому
I love how plot just conveniently has Namaari’s arrow have the ability to not only kill a dragon, but has enough power to push Sisu off the cliff and into the water
@kerokrystal
@kerokrystal 2 роки тому
Raya was shown to easily tackle Sisu to the ground quite some distance away and pull her out of danger I think more than once? which suggests that Sisu probably isn’t all that heavy, despite her size lol
@hughmorris7557
@hughmorris7557 2 роки тому
Well, Smaug was killed by an ordinary arrow, too.
@curlyfries9234
@curlyfries9234 2 роки тому
@@hughmorris7557 he was killed by a black arrow in the movies and in both book and movie it took an incredibly skilled archer to make a once in a lifetime shot in an unprotected scale that was incredibly small
@adde9506
@adde9506 2 роки тому
The movie has a NINJA BABY and what bothers you is the overpowered ammunition cliché? Also, Raya knocked off her aim, but the arrow was still a kill shot, which means Namaari fired BEFORE Raya's sword hit her.
@ryankunst668
@ryankunst668 2 роки тому
@@curlyfries9234 I mean, technically he was killed by a black arrow in the book to, but it was just a normal arrow that was black and it was like Bard's lucky arrow or something.
@matayaalexander8844
@matayaalexander8844 Рік тому
10:37 Tuc Tuc’s expression is just perfect when he talks
@joshuaarnett762
@joshuaarnett762 2 роки тому
The second I saw the rain magic all I could think was "So why is it not now always raining 24/7 to keep the Druun away?"
@TG-bl9kr
@TG-bl9kr 2 роки тому
So me and my dad watched this film and at the end he was like "How is that Fang mother not locked up or something??" I mean, she was ready to backstab the world lol
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому
2:32: Wow, what a dumb Remark of Cinema Sins. Wow. Just Wow.
@kaynu_Z
@kaynu_Z 2 роки тому
Your right man i stil hate her
@maubrey2095
@maubrey2095 2 роки тому
Why didn't she represent Fang for a public apology to all the other nations, especially Heart?
@Kristina-ov8ur
@Kristina-ov8ur 2 роки тому
Riiii like she basically said forget everyone else😭✋
@stargirlexe
@stargirlexe 2 роки тому
Same thing but with namari like she would be crucified for almost killing sisu and almost ending the entire world's amount of water
@Retro_Treasures
@Retro_Treasures 2 роки тому
I thought for sure CinemaSins would point out the fact that they evacuated out into the empty canal, which filled back up almost instantly once the magic came back. All those people DIED!!!
@thatgirl298
@thatgirl298 2 роки тому
Lmfaoooo
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
Is that where they went? I didn’t see them down there.
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
@Laura W I honestly can't remember what I said and YT isn't showing it to me for some reason. Sorry
@randompersonprobably4688
@randompersonprobably4688 2 роки тому
when he started singing "look around look around at how lucky we are to be alive right now" i subscribed
@LuisBrito-ly1ko
@LuisBrito-ly1ko Рік тому
14:08 Technically, it happened several times in history. Vlad Dracula III “The Impaler” challenged Vladislav II of Wallachia to a duel near the town of Târgsor. Vlad’s Army was outnumbered yet Vladislav accepted. The same happened with Dan III. He challenged Vlad “The Impaler” to a duel when his army got ambushed by Vlad’s Army, and Vlad accepted.
@hunam1464
@hunam1464 2 роки тому
I’ll say this about Raya and the Last Dragon: at least it wasn’t live action Mulan.
@FrancistheBrave
@FrancistheBrave 2 роки тому
I've never seen mulan live-action movie till this day. And I have no intention of seeing to. I love mulan 1&2 animated movies ❤❤❤
@jonusaguilar8156
@jonusaguilar8156 2 роки тому
Too bad that’s not a very high milestone
@remixchild
@remixchild 2 роки тому
That doesn’t help much
@Saavryn
@Saavryn 2 роки тому
Neither was Live Action Mulan
@dudemarina
@dudemarina 2 роки тому
@@FrancistheBrave I was going to like your comment until you said you liked Mulan 2 😅
@moonydasaltychild9993
@moonydasaltychild9993 2 роки тому
ah yes the typical "i'm the super optimistic legendary character" and the "i'm the super pessimistic main character" there's also the typical clans in animated fantasy being the clan the main character is from/the clan that can do no wrong, the bad guy clan, the big city/shopping district clan, the clan that always fights, and the minor/forgetful clan. this movie had so much cliches to me
@victoriamilk2865
@victoriamilk2865 2 роки тому
This was movie's script was just a whole cliche list with a 6 year made story in their
@MHJ_404
@MHJ_404 2 роки тому
It’s like Wakanda and the protector of the gem is the black panther
@MHJ_404
@MHJ_404 2 роки тому
But Wakanda is way cooler
@LshowKnows
@LshowKnows 2 роки тому
So true, the movie seems like a rip off of multiple movies into one
@BlackRosePetalzFall
@BlackRosePetalzFall 2 роки тому
What’s a single example of all these “cliches” you listed?
@plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards
@plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards 2 роки тому
"The odds of the last one being the right one is only seen in movies." Clearly sir, you underestimate the power of my back luck.
@knightwolf3511
@knightwolf3511 2 роки тому
13:00 when you put modern haircuts into a movie that takes place years in the past
@gaiashadow1599
@gaiashadow1599 2 роки тому
For a movie called “Raya and the last dragon” I would’ve expected more Raya and the last dragon instead of “Raya and the broken world and oh yeah there is a dragon too”
@noelle9467
@noelle9467 2 роки тому
Right tho haha
@Mobin92
@Mobin92 2 роки тому
And then the dragon was some cringe mutated my little pony thing...
@KingYugiMotto99
@KingYugiMotto99 2 роки тому
@@Mobin92 dragons in East Asia are depicted like that. The artists and creators did their research and animated accordingly. Go Google dragons drawing from any south east Asian country
@pyrotheevilplatypus
@pyrotheevilplatypus 2 роки тому
@@Mobin92 Super ANNOYING cringe
@pyrotheevilplatypus
@pyrotheevilplatypus 2 роки тому
@@KingYugiMotto99 I think they're referring to the bubblegum pastel colors and the soft, rounded angles.
@sarkasticchik9133
@sarkasticchik9133 2 роки тому
The thing that kinda of pissed off was that Fang was like “who do you think they are going to blame, if everything goes back to normal?” As if they didn’t do anything wrong, of course they SHOULD have been held accountable, they started the fight!
@chaoxiangalula4086
@chaoxiangalula4086 2 роки тому
I mean yeah, they started it, but everyone took part in the greed. They should not take the sole blame....idk that’s just my opinion
@sarkasticchik9133
@sarkasticchik9133 2 роки тому
@@chaoxiangalula4086 I get your point, but it just rubbed me the wrong way because it felt like they weren’t willing to recognize their wrong action.
@PanSpaceman
@PanSpaceman 2 роки тому
It want so much a lack of accountability as it was "if we fix everything, we're gonna be turbo-fucked for breaking it in the first place" which is a *decent* point and all but the alternative is you have a world full of insta-"kill" rock fog that's only repelled by water and dragon magic. Some lumps you gotta take.
@chaoxiangalula4086
@chaoxiangalula4086 2 роки тому
@@sarkasticchik9133 ohhhhh yeah that makes sense
@Anon-qp3kt
@Anon-qp3kt 2 роки тому
They're a land primarily led by feminists. As if feminists are ever held accountable
@cameronsitton501
@cameronsitton501 2 роки тому
THANK YOU for doing the Robin Williams Genie reference for Sisu's entrance! I cannot explain how much I *needed* it.
@orion5914
@orion5914 Рік тому
Here’s some fun facts that people may not know about this movie. It’s not based mostly on China. It’s actually based on Southern Asian countries Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines. Sisu is based on the Nāga, a water dragon in Southeast Asia. According to the screenwriter, “The difference between an Eastern or Chinese dragon versus the Nāga is that a Chinese dragon is based on luck and power, and the Nāga, because it’s water, it’s life and hope. It’s just that slight little difference. We didn’t want a dragon that came in to empower Raya to hit people more; we wanted one that would inspire her to open up and trust.”
@kabo0m
@kabo0m Рік тому
That .. is actuality kind cool! Thank you!
@apollothefirst
@apollothefirst 2 роки тому
As a joke, me and my brothers call it “Raya and the Overpriced Premier Access” Edit: I FORGOT I MADE THIS COMMENT! Thanks for the likes, like a ton, it may seem tiny, but I have never had a comment this popular!
@Faux_Sunlight
@Faux_Sunlight 2 роки тому
The only acceptable title
@ryankunst668
@ryankunst668 2 роки тому
Yeah, I figured they learned their lesson when nobody paid to watch this movie, but then they did it again with Black Widow.
@callhimtim3188
@callhimtim3188 2 роки тому
lol
@SuperstarYT
@SuperstarYT 2 роки тому
Right?! What ere they thinking with that price?! You could literally go to a movie theater for cheaper
@calebproductions1264
@calebproductions1264 2 роки тому
Because this movie reminds me a little bit of Avatar the Last Airbender, I’m gonna call this either Avatar and the Last Dragon or Raya the Last Airbender.
@carolinamurtha3102
@carolinamurtha3102 2 роки тому
I’ve realized that whenever a movie starts with “I know what your thinking …” I immediately check out. It’s like 1) don’t tell me what I think, that’s kind of pretentious and 2) a lot of times it’s not at all what I was thinking.
@denee557
@denee557 2 роки тому
Exactly!
@shawnnoyes2776
@shawnnoyes2776 2 роки тому
Yeah, because what I was thinking was "Holy Crap that broken fountain is photo-realistic." and then Raya zipped by and started talking...
@Ironicuss
@Ironicuss 2 роки тому
I’ve never connected so well with a single comment in my life
@paytonmoore6778
@paytonmoore6778 2 роки тому
“I know what you’re thinking” is what you hear at the beginning of some elementary school kid’s creative writing essay
@mimsy1765
@mimsy1765 2 роки тому
“I don’t even know what I’M thinking half the time so you sure as hell don’t know either.”
@chloegreene5316
@chloegreene5316 2 роки тому
16:53 Are we not going to talk about the fact that Namari stole the gem from her mom so her mom was defenseless?
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
I was about to. That gem chunk was so central in the big betrayal scene that I would have thought Jeremy would have seen it and made the connection that it obviously wasn’t on the staff anymore.
@dylan10gordo88
@dylan10gordo88 2 роки тому
16:33 great! You invented a tongue twister
@weaverofbrokenthreads
@weaverofbrokenthreads 2 роки тому
This movie somehow managed to overexplain everything and still leave me confused
@danielakanji7305
@danielakanji7305 2 роки тому
And why didn’t the dragons come back the first time but came back the second time
@cintronproductions9430
@cintronproductions9430 2 роки тому
@@danielakanji7305 Because plot!
@frostfang1
@frostfang1 2 роки тому
its like they could have taken those moments to overexplain a part they didnt touch on, but instead chose to reiterate things that were already fairly obvious and mentioned before.
@nottechytutorials
@nottechytutorials 2 роки тому
Another thing that was confusing was why does everyone have that one specific pose when they turn into stone, but Raya's friends just stay as they were?
@MockFilmReviews
@MockFilmReviews 2 роки тому
You missed one glaring plot hole. Wasn’t one of the dragon powers the ability to run on rain? Why not use the ability to make water to defeat the Druune who don’t like water? Ug, this movie!
@leeviheiskanen1271
@leeviheiskanen1271 2 роки тому
That is what I said when I was watching this movie
@necrorifter3059
@necrorifter3059 2 роки тому
All I see is water repel Druun, not defeat them and since they turn stuff to stone and ash. I can only assume that they burn out water and eventually reach Dragon, not to mention that by time Dragon get involved, they already defeat Humanity and have massive numbers that even what 30 to 50 dragons base on ending cant defeat what could be 1,000 or so depend on human population pre50o years.
@vincevvn
@vincevvn 2 роки тому
Another plot hole is that they all had different powers but at the end they basically all had the same powers, like wtf
@ChaosNo65SolarWind
@ChaosNo65SolarWind 2 роки тому
17:00 no, Namaari had Fang's gen piece with her. Her mother was unprotected at that moment.
@xeoney
@xeoney 2 роки тому
I feel like Raya and Namaari's storyline had a lot of potential (along with the film itself, pretty much), but just ended in a "Forgive and forget." or "Be the bigger person." kind of message. It probably would've been a better message, and just better plot, to make them both learn to trust eachother and to build their friendship. Even if it failed, it could even still been a better message, since Namaari did do a lot of terrible things. Instead, it just felt really rushed and forced into being a friendship.
@mmeers89
@mmeers89 2 роки тому
Okay so just because Frozen was successful doesn't mean every single god damn film has to have a character or characters stylized similar to Elsa and Ana.
@ecofinisher
@ecofinisher 2 роки тому
Yeah or that everyone will like that idea.
@TheCumberCoIlective
@TheCumberCoIlective 2 роки тому
I do like that Frozen helped break the forced love stories trend though. Keep letting protagonists be amazing protagonists without having to fall in love. Please and thank you
@ecofinisher
@ecofinisher 2 роки тому
@@TheCumberCoIlective Yeah I liked that except they kind of rushed in my opinion to fast with KristoffzxAnna in the end. Sure they didn't right off get married or together but it left me a little dumbfounded.
@TheCumberCoIlective
@TheCumberCoIlective 2 роки тому
@@ecofinisher true. But I also feel like the movie lasted over several days at least and we just don't see that. They did travel to a mountain and back again together so there was more bonding time than a song about sandwiches xD
@Kairos_Akuma
@Kairos_Akuma 2 роки тому
The main Char looks kinda like Korra tho..
@cadensitts8401
@cadensitts8401 2 роки тому
One thing that made me mad was that the dragons didn’t come back for whatever reason the first time, but then they MAGICALLY COME BACK THE NEXT TIME. There was no difference in the blasts.
@amentlik
@amentlik 2 роки тому
so, I didn't like this movie or its message, but I think that the point there was that the dragons were already good, but humans are bad, so with humans still in the world, acting badly towards each other, there wasn't enough power in that first blast to undo all the damage, but when humans finally started working together (because the bad cloud thingies came about specifically because of human discord) it was finally enough to undo all the damage... I assume...
@jesstotten5571
@jesstotten5571 2 роки тому
@@amentlik I think you have it right. Also, humans didn't just cooperate, they willingly gave up the stones and sacrificed themselves to the druun in the hope of restoring the gem. That sacrifice may have given the extra "oomf" that allowed the dragons to come back. Not well explained by the movie though.
@starcycle4308
@starcycle4308 2 роки тому
I think it was because the gem brought out the greed in people and everyone was separated, but then when people put trust in each other, restoring the harmony that was broken, then and only then could the dragons come back.
@tobybartels8426
@tobybartels8426 2 роки тому
Dragons are superior beings. Dragons trusting each other: almost meaningless, just strong enough to bring back puny humans. Humans trusting each other: fucking amazing, strong enough to bring back even dragons!
@ckarie3710
@ckarie3710 2 роки тому
@@amentlik but then there’s the issue that it was only that group the rest of them were acting business as usual so it still shouldn’t have worked
@Skriff34
@Skriff34 2 роки тому
“He straight up drippin’” funniest stuff I have heard in a long time.
@sirsapphire3499
@sirsapphire3499 2 роки тому
Oh my gosh, I don't normally just bust out laughing, but 0:54 got me. "This is what we used to be" "Antelope?" XD
@laraschroeder5195
@laraschroeder5195 2 роки тому
This pacing was all over the place. 2 minutes bringing the dragon back to life and 10 minutes of the dragon giving a speech about trust that didn’t really do anything.
@encryptedsnipes6749
@encryptedsnipes6749 2 роки тому
I watched this movie with some of my friends and when Namaari's mom said look around my friend said, "Everything the light touches is our kingdom."
@ashaler__
@ashaler__ 2 роки тому
lol
@bsweeting1481
@bsweeting1481 2 роки тому
Wait what was this a reference too? I think I might know but I'm not sure lol-
@encryptedsnipes6749
@encryptedsnipes6749 2 роки тому
@@bsweeting1481 Lion king
@bsweeting1481
@bsweeting1481 2 роки тому
@@encryptedsnipes6749 Ok thank you
@lizzykatieschindele6265
@lizzykatieschindele6265 2 роки тому
When is that? (time stamp please)
@cjs4279
@cjs4279 2 роки тому
I absolutely love this movie, but the ONE thing he mentioned that I hate is the position of the stone dragon siblings. I noticed it the first time I watched lmao
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
I wrote that off as “the first flashback is narrated by Raya, who wasn’t there and could easily have imagined small details differently from the way they really happened.”
@havenoflostandfound1495
@havenoflostandfound1495 2 роки тому
The people were hoarding the stones like Gollum’s “precious”. That one chick was acting like it was the stone from the hobbit. The thing that I will only refer to as the “blob of darkness” was an animated version of either “the darkness” from Twitches or “the it” from A Wrinkle in Time. The flash to the present time in the beginning of the movie was similar to Rey’s introduction in The Force Awakens. Can we get ONE Disney movie that is completely original?
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
Huh, and I was thinking it was the “character turns to stone so everyone else can go through all the emotions of the character dying, but in a way we can bring them back later” that sounded too familiar, both from Narnia and Mewtwo Vs Mew.
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 2 роки тому
@@dbseamz you guys know that trope is a thing that happens in other stories right?
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
@@dustyrose192 of course I do, that’s why I listed some other stories in which it happened.
@havenoflostandfound1495
@havenoflostandfound1495 2 роки тому
@@dbseamz don’t forget frozens version but with ice.
@lazarus8447
@lazarus8447 2 роки тому
I thought for a magic rock everyone wanted… She got the pieces back pretty damn easy.
@Tempusmon
@Tempusmon 2 роки тому
The lack of resistance or desire for anyone else to get them is crazy. Take the first piece she found for example, it was just sitting there in an Indiana jones trap cave for less than 6 years so people definitely knew the rock that protects them from the druun was there but there is no evidence that anyone else ever tried to get it.
@PanSpaceman
@PanSpaceman 2 роки тому
Yeah only the main characters seemed to care at all about the rocks, and depending on how that's set up I could forgive that much (though as it is, it's still sinful) but for the macguffins to be so unimpressive for most people it just makes it all the more sinful to not have raya, in full dragon form, say hey give me the stones (sorry, "trust me with the stones") so I can use my dragon magic to fix stuff.
@dbseamz
@dbseamz 2 роки тому
@@Tempusmon the evidence was the statues Raya saw along the way. She had a stone piece with her, they didn’t. I’m pretty sure the idea was that everyone who tried to get them, as well as everyone who would have guarded them, got druuned in the process.
@bulldozer8950
@bulldozer8950 2 роки тому
The thing that pisses me off about this movie is the rivers. They could flow into the dragon shaped lake. But instead like 20+ lakes all flow OUT. Why are they flowing out? Where are they going? Where does the water for the lake come from? WATER DOESNT FLOW OUT FROM A LAKE IN MULTIPLE PLACES. All that had to happen is the water flows into the lake from these rivers. This one thing just pisses me off. Have they never seen how rivers and lakes work? Anyway. Please make reasonable water features in your magic dragon Disney movies.
@adde9506
@adde9506 2 роки тому
I was expecting a "Disney doesn't know how rivers work" sin when I got here. But, geographically speaking, multiple rivers *could* conceivably flow out of a lake, BUT these rivers flow to nowhere. And I suppose the reversal of the water could mean that the rivers were flowing backwards before Sisu was revived, but then, if all springs lead to the lake, regardless of geography, where is the rest of the planet?
@ryankunst668
@ryankunst668 2 роки тому
Yeah this always irritates me to no end in worldbuilding. My dad and I have spent literal hours discussing the map in Red Dead Redemption 2 and how it makes no sense.
@Gabriel071293
@Gabriel071293 2 роки тому
I hadn't thought about that until you pointed it out, now I can't be not mad 😡😡😡
@skyrider5375
@skyrider5375 2 роки тому
Assuming there’s only 6 rivers like we’re shown, it’s a 1/720 chance she picks the correct river last. That number increases factorially as you add more rivers into the mix
@skyrider5375
@skyrider5375 2 роки тому
Actually I checked the map. There are 33 visible rivers to choose from. That means it’s a 1/my calculator broke the number was so high. Point being there is NO CHANCE
@yusufdroid9783
@yusufdroid9783 2 роки тому
Can we appreciate that there are no unnecessary songs in this moive
@demonkingisme5935
@demonkingisme5935 2 роки тому
I'm surprised you didn't sin the fact Raya acted like she knew Namari for ages when she betrayed her, when in truth it was like 6 hours. She goes on to say she knows how to push Namari's buttons as if she found out all of Namari's secrets and pet peeves in those 6 hours when she was like 12.
@betajediwizard5680
@betajediwizard5680 2 роки тому
Raya; should have been a tv series instead of a movie. That's all I'll say.
@Dudeman23rd
@Dudeman23rd 2 роки тому
I had the exact same thought after finishing it; it feels like it was pitched as a Disney+ original series, but the execs said "nah, movie that shit"
@Amanda-ug6gp
@Amanda-ug6gp 2 роки тому
And it could've been so GOOD. I was so excited for this premise, and can only imagine what it could've been if given more time.
@tadbitsketch
@tadbitsketch 2 роки тому
Yeah, I would've loved more time for character development.
@eldritchcatgirl
@eldritchcatgirl 2 роки тому
Especially because of all the flashbacks and specific dialogue to explain the world. If it was a series, they could have had longer to explain it and actually give each land more depth in their culture. Not to mention the characters are forgettable because of their lack of growth.
@huh968
@huh968 2 роки тому
no reason they can't do both
@boxxy3190
@boxxy3190 2 роки тому
6:16 Also Raya is thrown into a heavy current river with a surly very heavy metal sword strapped to her back and doesn't drown?
@GadgetHamster123
@GadgetHamster123 2 роки тому
A personal sin from myself. They set up the mom/queen of fang to be the big baddy, with her saying ominous sh*t like "I will take care of this." then she just stops existing for the last 30 minutes of the movie. it would have been more Disney if the daughter listened to them to put down the crossbow, and then the mother barged in and shot Sisu. My point being it feels like they rewrote the ending the way the mom acts like she is gonna do something stupid, and then just peaces out.
@hughmorris7557
@hughmorris7557 2 роки тому
*Raya's dad is preparing stew* Hey, what's up, guys, welcome back to Binging with Ba-bish.
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 2 роки тому
ok that was funny
@andersonnation9915
@andersonnation9915 2 роки тому
''Moana did it better'' Most true sentence ever.
@yeetmaster9374
@yeetmaster9374 2 роки тому
See the line where the sky meets the sea- this is cringey
@andylin9441
@andylin9441 2 роки тому
True
@psychoticcoconut4047
@psychoticcoconut4047 2 роки тому
... Yeah kinda✋😔
@jiji7250
@jiji7250 2 роки тому
Timestamp ?
@Takaichi666-
@Takaichi666- 2 роки тому
....yeah
@notroxa
@notroxa 2 роки тому
i really really liked exactly one part of this movie- raya, and more specifically her animation. i literally only liked the movie bc i liked her character and design
@ScrumpeyBros
@ScrumpeyBros 2 роки тому
6:44 Perhaps Raya got chased away by Namaari and her crew and was unable to reach the river's end. 13:51 Tong was tied up, facing his enemy who had a sword, and an enemy clan outside the walls of his town. 15:04 Well, a lot of them did get Drunn'd... 16:52 Pretty sure that Namaari took her mom's dragon gem piece. So it's actually 133 sins.
@GoingHamAllTheWay
@GoingHamAllTheWay 2 роки тому
Only thing that i actually didn’t like was the ending, if the dragons stayed died it would have pushed the topic of we have to work/stay together
@icewing202
@icewing202 2 роки тому
it didnt really bother me much but i see what you're saying. you can argue that everyone just came back to live as one nation cuz the dragons are back/the crystal thingy is gone, not because they actually learned anything
@priscillajimenez27
@priscillajimenez27 2 роки тому
Right! These movies always seem to focus on a chosen one or relic that is needed to solve everything instead of the people actually doing something
@GoingHamAllTheWay
@GoingHamAllTheWay 2 роки тому
All I’m saying that if Disney didnt come at the writers saying we want a typical happy ending, and they went with the original ending they planned I feel like it would be a great movie with a very real point that the next generation will need to understand. We are all humans and we need to treat this planet with love, that’s all, but I understand gotta make it for kids(just I think there smarter then most believe)
@huh968
@huh968 2 роки тому
that was actually the original ending, but osnat shurer was like nah the dragons gotta be alive
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 роки тому
​@Robert Giese What exactly do you think the entire premise of the movie was, if not the consequences of not trusting people and coming together? I mean honestly, the consequences are already there and the entire movie is about resolving that consequence by undoing the lack of trust, which was the only way the darkness was defeated. And it was only when people trusted each other again that the dragons were able to return. So, yeah, I really don't understand your point. They lived and witnessed the consequences, and now have a story to pass down to generations warning them of what could happen if they fall back to the greedy, mistrustful, and backstabby ways.
@illCMAC
@illCMAC 2 роки тому
Definitely 10 dragon sized Raya's imo. This is the content I come to YT for, thank you.
@AgentWuT
@AgentWuT 2 роки тому
How are you 13 hours early
@povotaknight2063
@povotaknight2063 2 роки тому
Patreon?
@mikeltaylor2511
@mikeltaylor2511 2 роки тому
@@AgentWuT its called bots
@povotaknight2063
@povotaknight2063 2 роки тому
@@mikeltaylor2511 not really?
@AgentWuT
@AgentWuT 2 роки тому
@@mikeltaylor2511 @Povota Knight is right tho Bots usually do scam things and this is a normal comment
@azulaspencer
@azulaspencer 2 роки тому
is it just me, or is there significant "long ago, the four nations lived in harmony. Then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked!" vibes from the beginning of this movie? especially in the "what do you know about the other lands" part. editing now that i have actually watched the entire EWW vid; i am so glad CinemaSins caught it too!
@ck-1649
@ck-1649 Рік тому
The scene where Namaari accuses Raya of being equally guilty for Sisu's death as she is has to be the biggest sin in the history of cinema!!
@jasonlam8588
@jasonlam8588 2 роки тому
Logic of this movie: 4 dragons turn themselves into a gem that protects people, but somehow if you break it and put it back together it will revive those 4 dragons as well as every other dragon who died... Imagine at the beginning of the movie when the gem gets broken, if people put the pieces back together, out of nowhere all the dragons get revived for no reason...
@alexhosten1508
@alexhosten1508 2 роки тому
Isn't it also a thing that they Finally Trust each other?
@themichaelconnor42
@themichaelconnor42 2 роки тому
Come quickly, my lord! A dragon's been sighted near the western watchtower!
@jasonlam8588
@jasonlam8588 2 роки тому
@@alexhosten1508 yes that's very much so the message to trust people, but in some ways it doesn't work because it's saying people need to not trust each others first... Just think if all tribes were united in the beginning the gem wouldn't have been broken, and the dragons wouldn't have been revived...
@berengustav7714
@berengustav7714 2 роки тому
"Augghhh! You have a peice!?" "If I told you I didn't lose the puppy,but went,'look I have a peice' how would you feel?!?!"
@UnboxingAlyss
@UnboxingAlyss 2 роки тому
@@berengustav7714 Surprised he didn't bring up this line. Easily the funniest line in the movie.
@nathanbrunner9811
@nathanbrunner9811 2 роки тому
I realize that this is nitpicky, but this is a CinemaSins comment section. The projectile in question at 14:18 is in fact a shrimp tail. As it comprises the back half of the animal and provides propulsion, it fulfills the requirements for a tail and lacks the head that would mark it as a whole shrimp.
@isky6541
@isky6541 2 роки тому
I commend you being at least self-aware :))
@oaktadopbok665
@oaktadopbok665 2 роки тому
100% accurate
@stormgate3079
@stormgate3079 2 роки тому
I mean, it's CinemaSins. If they didn't want people to be nitpicky, they shouldn't have trained us so well.
@nathanbrunner9811
@nathanbrunner9811 2 роки тому
@@stormgate3079 Very true. Dr. Frankenstein has created a monster. And it tears apart movies!
@aaronbrunner9896
@aaronbrunner9896 2 роки тому
Good
@idontexist6497
@idontexist6497 Рік тому
all the random flashbacks feels like me trying to come up with a story in my head to fall asleep but feeling like i have to give it way more backstory and then never getting to the actual plot and falling asleep before anything happens
@levi_ackerman_119
@levi_ackerman_119 2 роки тому
8:40 My favorite line in this whole video.
@ayanoaishi8489
@ayanoaishi8489 2 роки тому
Okay but like Gordon Ramsay would go off on Raya’s dad for his cooking
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому
2:32: Wow, what a dumb Remark of Cinema Sins. Wow. Just Wow.
@lydiabogan
@lydiabogan 2 роки тому
@@loturzelrestaurant QUIT USING THE SAME COMMENT!!
@_tideaina
@_tideaina 2 роки тому
Did he just add a sin for Raya and her dad sitting up straight? 😂😂
@darkfireblaze7029
@darkfireblaze7029 2 роки тому
God forbid anyone maintains good posture 🤣
@jimmyjames2132
@jimmyjames2132 2 роки тому
I'd be upset too, being called out like that for bad posture
@xacmashe3852
@xacmashe3852 2 роки тому
Normally Cinemasins' non-sequiter jokes just make me sigh and roll my eyes but the one about sitting up for your spine was pretty good.
@PS4Pat
@PS4Pat 2 роки тому
I've only seen this once so far, while it was in theater. When I saw Raya and Namaari look at each other outside and see them talking like they were friends, I honestly thought it was gonna be the first girl and girl love interest. But then when it turned out to be a setup, I stood corrected.
@marshalldye4272
@marshalldye4272 2 роки тому
This movie plot is kind of similar to the last air bender. One nation attacks and causes a war. Raya has to go find a a dragon that’s suppose to save the world. Then has to travel to the different nation so the dragon can learn different magic while gain information allies from each one. The bad guy later joins the group too.
@vixenrevitup
@vixenrevitup 2 роки тому
I have not seen this movie yet, but my first impression was that it took a lot of plot points from The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance. There is a shattered crystal that causes destruction and needs to be restored, there’s a purple “Darkening” (I forget what they call it in Raya, but that’s what it’s called in AoR), there’s a need to build trust between the clans (humans in Raya and Gelflings in AoR), and there’s even a rolling creature used for transportation (used by Raya the protagonist and the Armaligs used by the antagonistic Skeksis in AoR). As a massive A:TLA fan, I definitely see your point too. The references are everywhere! My twin loves Raya but never really cared for A:TLA and never watched AoR. I’d probably be the person that hates Raya (when I eventually watch it) but loves both A:TLA and AoR. And why doesn’t anyone point out how much Sisu looks like an adult female version of Azymondias from The Dragon Prince??? Another brilliant show, by the way! Raya just seems to borrow too much to warrant itself as a great standalone film. Maybe I’m wrong and I’ll end up liking it, but I can’t unsee all the references and I know they’ll haunt me when I finally watch it for myself…
@sws212
@sws212 2 роки тому
@A Zee It's more a Hollywood thing to do, Disney is just the worst at it since all of their movies go for generic mass appeal. The story is a generic af plot done to death. Someone who lost someone or something fighting against the big bad whatever through the use of a magic mcguffin isn't exactly groundbreaking story telling.
@dinosaur5864
@dinosaur5864 2 роки тому
@@sws212 IKR
@physicslover4951
@physicslover4951 2 роки тому
@@vixenrevitup Sadly enough, Raya got an ending but the dark crystal didn't :'(
@lunamoon4869
@lunamoon4869 2 роки тому
@A Zee isnt Disney also the reason why Ever after high got cancelled
@Moon-Fang
@Moon-Fang 2 роки тому
The only thing I liked about this movie is that it motivated me to watch Avatar The Last Airbender because I was thinking 'I could be watching avatar' the whole movie
@selahaarif8648
@selahaarif8648 2 роки тому
God you people compare literally everything from that culture to avatar
@Vanessa_NeuviZhongli
@Vanessa_NeuviZhongli 2 роки тому
Yeah. People compare everything with Avatar. I’ve watched Avatar and Legend of Korra. Both were pretty good but what was the whole big ordeal about it? Why did people go crazy for it back then? I have NEVER even watched Avatar The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra until the year 2020.
@Littlemissdidi
@Littlemissdidi Рік тому
@@Vanessa_NeuviZhongli Legend of Korra wasn't even good. Most hype was from people too happy to see another avatar series to see how much it sucked and then you had the people who only liked it cuz she turned out to be bi in the end lmao.
@fuzzyapple
@fuzzyapple 2 роки тому
Namaari had the dragon crystal part in the end to fool Raya and kidnap Sisu, that's why her mother was defenseless against the Druun
@erocenturion2809
@erocenturion2809 2 роки тому
Definitely my favorite outro clips, lol. The Care Bears one got me laughing out loud. XD I honestly didn't much like this movie and predicted over half of it before I saw it. Disney really needs to up their game.
@josephscanzillo9715
@josephscanzillo9715 2 роки тому
This really would have worked better as a tv series. There's just too much plot, which makes the the pacing feel rushed.
@thewarden1398
@thewarden1398 2 роки тому
"Those ropes are so far apart Shaq could shimmy through them." Best sin ever.
@dragonlord52b
@dragonlord52b 2 роки тому
I gave this over movie over 200 sins myself. I think I was even more harsh. Yes you sinned the con baby's abilities but. The fact that they so casually just take the child wasn't sinned is amazing
@woahthere6020
@woahthere6020 2 роки тому
I would like to point out a few suspicious similarities between this movie and Avatar the last air bender. 1. Tuk tuk is pretty much Appa. Both used for transport, both had scenes showing them as a baby but grow up to be enormous, and both are mythical creatures, both can swim. 2. The title. Raya and the Last Dragon; Avatar: the Last Airbender. The only thing that is different about the wording is the “and” in Raya and the Last Dragon. 3. Each of the dragons having different powers, just like the different types of benders 4. Lands were divided and each land hosts different powers (cough literally the same as avatar cough) 5. Namaari is Zuko 6. That scene where the monkeys knock out the guards is the same technique that Ty Lee uses. I know I’m forgetting some you I think you get the point. The whole time I watched the movie all I could think of was Avatar. A little weird if you ask me
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