Thank you for this, absolutely and in 100% agree.

Very good summary. I wish I had known that when I was younger because I lost hundreds of hours learning vocabulary lists and doing grammar exercices instead of reading books and listening to audiobooks 😢

Well said! Very good explanations and reminders. For us adult language learners the focus needs to be on communicating v. Being grammatically correct and being able to elegantly speak. We need to allow ourselves the grace and space to be beginners.

Totally agree, as I've discovered the same thing! I'm learning German and learned many words and phrases in different contexts which helped me remember and use them too. I especially discovered this whenever I've been watching German TV -- listening to their newscasts, documentaries, talk shows, etc..

But in English many of us were not taught English in verbs, nouns, adjectives any formal grammar really. We just know in English what sounds right or wrong, or in writing. I don't see how knowing what a verb is will help. I still have a mental block about that in English even at my old age

'Started by memorizing the 1000 most frequent words ' Krashen and McQuillan say memorizing doesn't work.

@@stevencarr4002 Thats why I spelled it out. I think he is wrong to some extend and the truth is never black and white. As a starting scaffold it works beautifully. I spent maybe one week memorizing and 2.5 years "acquiring". Looking at it like that I could indeed say "I only learned by acquisition and immersion etc" as it was such a tiny proportion of the time, but I argue that one week in the start was crucial. It's what made all the rest 100x faster. These researchers never really look at the full picture, from "zero to hero".

@@amarug Have you considered that you're the one ignoring the big picture? Not Krashen/Mcquillan? The "jumpstart" you got is something you felt, but there's nothing to indicate you acquired any faster because of it. For all we know, you wasted your time on one week memorizing and it STILL would have taken you 2.5 years acquiring Japanese without it.

There's no evidence that doing acquisition/immersion learning from day1 is faster. I bet noone of you that criticize the method of memorising the first thousand words or so never learned an east asian language like Japanese.

@@Sendobren Thanks for the backup! Doing pure immersion only from day one is a waste of time in my opinion, indeed with a language as foreign as Japanese or Chinese, you really DO need a bit of a foundation to be able to get anything out of immersion. Otherwise you might as well listen to whales singing 😅

Lol you and me have the same exact situation with Japanese and Korean ahahahahah

@@baronmeduse whatever you say buddy. Not going to defend myself for something I’ve known my whole life, but to each their own 😉

Agreed. I speak Swahili, and the entire structure is so different from Indo-European languages that I don't know you'd have learned with just gestures and the like. You'd be completely lost in understanding the structure.

​@@baronmeduse You can, double native is not fiction.

@@trylingual5347 It is fiction.

Good method. I'd just rather watch movies and series with subtitles.

@@RogerRamos1993 often people end up reading the subtitles and dont take in the language. but ofc if it works for you then go ahead. But its very helpful if youre pausing the videoo when some interesting vocab comes up and writing it down

@@disobeats Reading the subtitles is taking in the language. I mean subtitles in the same language of the movie you're watching. I never write down an unknown word. When I keep hearing the same word, while not actually understanding it, it comes to point in which I feel compelled to look it up.

@@RogerRamos1993 ah yes yes i totally agree. I wasnt sure if you meant in the original language or in your own.

I love grammar, it’s one of the most interesting things in the world

Little and often is key ro learning a language.

Maatson, this is 130% correct. You chip away at the mountain and that means staying motivated. Everyone WANTS to speak other languages, but few want to do the work or crumble after 30 days of working at it. I always tell people to HAVE A GOOD REASON and KNOW your reasons for learning. The is the more important thing to start with. Then, have fun with it: TV, travel, books, shooting the shit others, and slowly living with it. This is the best Cross-Training that will have you chipping large chunks "out of the mountain".

@@MHaas-ms2ds your making some valid and good points. I’m 100 plus days into my journey of Spanish. I don’t have much motivation left , which is fine with me . I’m getting to a stage where I’m more disciplined I try to do some work on it at least 1 hr a day if I feel motivated I do more if not then I just keep it simple. No point in making my self feel guilty or sad for not doing more or forgetting what I learned . I just remind my self chip away at it a little at a time before you know it one year while have come and gone

@@Maatson_ With instrument and language learning everyone, almost everyone, fizzles out of energy for it. I speak 3 languages and self taught. But I always mixed into my learning as much a social aspect as possible. I admit I am a grammar whore and love KNOWING the rules. It give me something to practice when formulating sentences and it works for me. But!! Dive in and take cheap 1hr conversation classes. Just do it and struggle. The stress will MAKE you acquire. Then meet a girl or hang with the fellas and write essays about crazy funny subjects (mnemonics). Just play and have fun. The journey doesn't end and the sightseeing and experiences are always good.

@@MHaas-ms2ds excel. I will

Agreed. There's no reason not to learn the rules for the easy parts of grammar. Gender, present tense, word order, etc. depending on what's easy for the language. It saves a lot of time.

MY contention about adult learning is all ego based. The longer you live doing familiar things correctly the less apt you are to allow chances of failures when trying new things. This wall inhibits people all over and everywhere in their lives. Many of us are immediately shut down when asked to do a new job task at a place we have done the same work for years. Let your ego go, and the joy will flow.

​@@yaketythack "Let your ego go..." Right. That takes 30 years of meditation practice...

About the amount of input needed - I wondered about this recently. If we were given 3-4 years to do _nothing_ just being fed and taken care of while people talk to us in a language to learn, as adults, would we not acquire that language fully? So are we not just missing the point on the sheer hours a baby/toddler is exposed to language? Like how many thousands of hours is that. I thought about it when I was thinking of learning by immersing. Then I realized, okay, but can I be immersed for tens of hours per week, someone talking to me on 'my level'? So it might be that adult learning is actually more efficient after all? I wondered. Now I will need to research this.

@@martin-b-b It's about frequent repetition for babies and children - they understand a lot as babies its just the brain is learning to speak it later on. Adult language learners need to do frequent repetition. Soap operas, Rom Coms, radio all use the same 500 words repetitively.

Vvvb

Buona fortuna con lo studio :) Spero mi perdonerai per la mia curiosità, ma come mai hai iniziato a imparare la lingua?

Ha I learned English n German by talking to myself and my wall covered in posters, but of course I spent considerable time in listening, took me three summer holidays in my bedroom though

@@giuseppeagresta1425 Grazie! È sempre stata una cosa che ho voluto fare. Quindi, durante il lockdown, ho deciso di iniziare seriamente, e dopo un mese sono diventata ossessionata dalla cultura italiana e dalla bellezza della lingua. Ho origini italiane, quindi l'italiano sembrava la scelta giusta. I miei nonni paterni sono venuti in Australia 70 anni fa e parlavano solo il dialetto. Io non potevo parlare o capire l'italiano (o in realtà il dialetto) per nulla, ma sentivo comunque un legame con il paese dei miei nonni e la cultura che era rimasta cristallizzata nel piccolo paesino da cui provenivano 70 anni fa. Mi sentivo imbarazzata per non essere in grado di comunicare con i miei parenti. C'era sempre qualcosa che mancava nella mia vita. Ora che sto studiando la lingua, ho imparato molto di più sugli italiani in un modo meno superficiale e ciò ha portato tanta gioia inaspettata nella mia vita. So che la lingua farà parte della mia quotidianità per sempre.

@@mmaxine1331 what is the best way to learn german someone says grammar is important very much learning german ,now i only focus on listening part youtube video?

Languages with weird and lots of exceptions in grammar be like : are you sure about that?

Me too!! I love studying grammar

yea, until you learn thousands of them and sick with the exception and forgetting

If grammar is taught properly for the right reason it’s a huge help to acquisition. Could not be making the progress with Russian I am now without it.

Have you ever considered psychotherapy ?

I don't sense the presence of language in my dreams at all...

@@user-kp1js6cb2s more input is always the answer

I'd love to follow a channel dreaming english haha

​@@user-kp1js6cb2s it's a website to help you learn Spanish. Google dreaming Spanish and it will pop up.

Comprehensible Japanese is one I like.

That's correct. Learning is not an exact science. There is not specific right way to learn a language.

@@ijansk No, learning is an exact science.. that is just an excuse for people who are too lazy

UKposts commenter vs linguistics professional...

haha same here bro. they are the best and the funniest

Precisely because adults usually don't have the time for years of 12/24 immersion, memorizing a lot of vocabulary in the beginning is a shortcut (and a scaffold for implicit learning of even more words and idioms and getting used to the grammar), as is getting some grammar info in those languages that are so different in structure that it might take you too long to ever figure it out by yourself/learn it implicitly. Moving from English to French or Spanish, you don't need to consciously learn grammar, but when you learn Japanese, you do, because it would hold you back too much and for too long if you didn't.

@@hezarfen777 Thanks for writing! True, but few people are actually willing to do this, and this is why we look for easier ways constantly even though we know the immersion method works, because we know it is resource heavy we look for other methods, and the method you mentioned works (though often produces less fluent speakers with unclear pronunciation), but it is monotonous/ boring and requires huge amounts of self motivation. I'd say while your mentioned method is low on the resource cost, it is highly likely to fail, whereas I can take a person with a very low level of motivation and place them in an international school and get them to speak the language. Researchers are looking for a "middle path" here and so far have come up with little. Perhaps we can say they have come up with ways to make the method you mentioned less painful/more interesting or engaging... But that's about it. It's almost like if you can't afford to own a horse but want to be great at horse riding. It can happen (mucking stables/paying out money to ride someone else's horses for a few hours), but is very unlikely to happen. I tutor English students right now, and I provide students with a "sample" of what it's like to be immersed for 1-3 hours a week usually. And students come back because they gain from this, but this is obviously going to be much slower than 30-40 hours a week. In fact, many students are trying to learn English to the point where they can place themselves in the position where they can work in English full time because they know, that's where the progress really starts to happen. So self study and using tutors is really about getting to that spot for a lot of them. I accept the fact that I'm part of the next best alternative to having grown up in an international school. In China there was the idea that getting English tutoring for your children a few hours a week was a sign of being middle class, and I can assume having your kid at an international school is a sign of upper middle class/upper class background. As a side note, I have been told by Chinese students that some jobs in China require a high English level even though no English is spoken at their work at all, based on this, it is my opinion that the high English level requirement could serve simply as a way to discriminate against someone who is not from a wealthier family... Back to the main point, sometimes I get students from international schools who haven't spoken English in a while and want to brush up on it/restore their confidence, however they quickly get up to speed and don't take lessons long. But having listened to them talking about their background, I feel like language learning is a bit of a rigged game and the most important part of this process is whether or not your parents invest the time/money in making it happen for you. Sure, there are exceptions to the rules, especially for people in border towns or with multilingual families, but this international school phenomenon seems the way of it by and large, at least for English. Also, these students at these schools KNOW they are different/special and are destined for greater things, because otherwise it's very odd to learn all your school subjects in a language that isn't normally spoken by people in your country in daily life. Most people searching on UKposts don't have this background, so we have all these self help/self study materials for them to look at and the teachers who say they have done it on their own using these methods are popular. However, I feel if students knew the truth about how most people end up being bilingual without family connections, it would be very discouraging. Once you know the truth, you quickly know why very few Americans speak a second language, for example. And the truth becomes even more apparent by looking at the few Americans (without family connections) who successfully speak Spanish, French, and Mandarin Chinese. These subjects are often focused on with the proper amount of attention to gain some fluency at elite schools only, schools that tend to have students study abroad with partnerships etc. Meeting an American who speaks Mandarin Chinese without family connections shocks people to such an extent that people have made UKposts careers out of such feats. Xiaomannyc for example, also look at his background, attending the private school, the University of Chicago, with a year long study abroad program in China... This doesn't seem to be a coincidence. I don't want to discourage anyone reading this, but if you fail to learn a language/ quit learning a language from self study, you are normal and not a failure/weak. It would be very unusual for you to learn a language successfully from self study. In my own experience, I only started learning Spanish successfully when I started paying Spanish tutors to help me. Even self study programs like Busuu (I used to work for them) include tutoring services along side the self study program. My advice, go straight to the tutors if you are serious about learning a language and are not an Olympic style super self motivated person. Beware of more and more expensive self study programs from language learning "gurus/masters." The missing ingredient is usually hardcore self discipline/motivation in all of their programs and they will often tell you this. For example, ask yourself if you are really going to consistently long term review an Anki deck/flash cards in your free time? I reckon maybe 1/1,000 people will do this. Is it possible, yes! But, it's also possible to win 10,000 dollars on a 10 dollar scratch off ticket. Always think about what possible means here.

Hi there In your first sentence you have an practically Amazing insight no one talks about anywhere: Muscle memory: In French and latin and greek based languages ,there is no word for language , it's called tongue as in english mother tongue. Maybe ,just maybe , they understood that oral language is a muscular activity ( the tongue contains 17 muscles What about the inside ear : it' s full of physical tools like eardrum anvil , cochlea (snails shell ) , outside ear looks like a loudspeaker , vibrating hairs. Just imagine how powefull your insight of 'musculary memory ' really is . Thank's for that nugget , I'll bé grratefull to pass it on. Christian

Yes It has changed my Life and nobody days that on youtube

Agreed. This professor is by far giving the best insights about language learning. I've watched and into it for a long time. You'd have to ask this question and he presented the answer right in front of you, that nobody else has ever able to. Impressive.

Does your son go to a French speaking school and play with French speaking friends? Children learn their native language by being exposed to about 10 to 20 million words by the time they are aged 5. Have you even got as far as being exposed to 1 million words of French yet? ' He's learning through acquisition....' The video makes clear that you only learn by acquisition when you already understand 90% to 95% of the words you get. Then it is 'comprehensible input'. Did your son already understand 90% to 95% of the French he was hearing? If he didn't, then he is not learning through acquisition, at least according to the ex-Professor.

I've been using rosetta stone for Chinese. It's great. People say it's horrible, but they're wrong. Just pay attention and be patient

For me, this has also been a matter of lowering expectations. I have learned to switch my brain off and allow myself to be entertained by material that I would never consume in my native language. For example: kids cartoons, crappy sitcoms, video game commentary, whatever.

if you look up "comprehensible Input (insert language)" or "natural" or "TPRS" and insert language you can find channels for the largest 10-15 languages. Not as fun as a show but more fun than an app

A good TPRS video will make itself engaging no matter how boring the underlying concept is. They time themselves perfectly, repeat themselves so it feels like you're figuring something out every few seconds, and ask questions such that you can respond in complete sentences in minutes. Run a search to see if your language has that kind of thing

@@andrewrobinson2985 first time I'm hearing the term "tprs" most people talk about broad concepts like "immersion" and "graded readers" without saying much substance. I even expected this video was going to be like that but its not. Looking TPRS up it looks really useful, thanks.

It's incredible to me how we have gotten so many things wrong in society, and how long it takes for these collective assumptions to be corrected. Language learning is just one of them. I think you hit the nail on the head...there is no money to be made from comprehensible input but there is boatloads of money in traditional education. So most of language academia and industry will resist comprehensible input since they (correctly) perceive it as an existential threat.

I’m a Chinese immigrant myself living in Canada. I’ve seen a lot of my fellow Chinese who came here and continued to immerse in Chinese (thanks to the internet) instead of English. As a result, their English won’t improve much after years living here. In the meantime, government is throwing money into all kinds of English classes, LINC (Language Instruction for Newcomers to Canada), ESL (English As a Second Language), you name it, to no avail.

@@mydadletsmeshootatcats6754 yup! There’s less money to be made in CI (Dreaming Spanish might be one of the few good examples). At the same time, we see guys like Ikenna raising (scamming) $1.2 million to build yet another gamified app for language learning.

@@SimplyChinese I've seen exactly that myself with some Chinese friends here in Ireland. My friend looks after some school kids from Shanghai here and some have terrible English despite living here for several years - its easy to see why when you hang out with them - they have their heads all the time in Chinese social media. The ones who just engage with local media (tv/internet) are far more confident in English. Its a pity, because they will suffer socially and academically in the longer term.

@@mydadletsmeshootatcats6754 I think the problem with being able to make money from producing CI is because the content has to have broad interest, otherwise it's become boring and tedious pretty quickly. This is the problem that I have with most content for young children -- it simply isn't interesting to me as an adult. Adults have so much variance in their interests that it's hard to appeal to enough people to justify the production investment. "Traditional education" only pays because almost all of its consumers are a captive audience. If it's the required price of admission to something else, then you're stuck.

You must have learnt for sure but how accurate and fluent can you speak the languages you wrote I learn. Learning and using what you get as a skill is different from each other.

💯I knew people in an anime club who learned Japanese watching anime on TV.

You have to start somewhere though. I have studied languages throught both intuitive methods like assimil and more old fashioned ways of studying vocabulary + grammar and then reading. I end up preferring the old fashioned methods, especially for synthetic languages like ancient greek. It's just frustrating to practice something you haven't first learned to understand. When you learn words and grammar.first and then practice, it is just easier. What people get wrong, is they mistake knowledge acquisition for learning to use the language, so they think: How am I getting this wrong if I know the rule? Vocabulary and grammar are an essential, but not sufficient part of learning a language. And taking time apart just to focus on grammar and words without context is just more efficient, is my experience

@@olaf2627 I agree with you. Just listening or watching/listening to a new language (e.g., Pimsleur - just oral, no reading/grammar) seems like a very slow way to learn a language. Especially in the beginning, everything is incomprehensible. There is no ‘comprehensible input.’ Eventually, you might get the patterns, but some grammar/vocabulary just smooths the way. This is especially true if you’re learning a language with a different alphabet and grammar than your native language - or some other language you know well.

@@olaf2627 You're implying that one has to "start somewhere" and by "starting somewhere" that means through grammar and study. And the answer is conclusively: No, you do not need to start with learning grammar just because you're new to a language. There does exist input for absolute beginners to understand even without knowing any words. Comprehensible Input is to understand what a word means _before_ you know it. By the way, Assimil isn't that "intuitive". Yeah, it's good that it gives you a lot of native input, but that's about it. It relies on translation to make the input comprehensible, and the listening itself isn't that comprehensible for a beginner without accompanying videos.

@@HoraryHellfire The original commenter made a comparison with crutches. But if you break your legs as an adult and have to learn how to walk again, you will use crutches. Learning languages is just not the same for adults as it is for children. So yes, I do think adult language learning is made easier with grammar. I have enough personal experience to be able to say that it works for me. You still need a ton of practice anyway, but yes the first steps are easier with the crutches of grammar. I have used pimsleur as well, not just assimil, and it went super slow, I invested for more time for a smaller effect than I got by simply learning words

If you can have language lessons, that's great. In most of Europe and USA, they are quite cheap. You still do most of the learning by yourself, but the lessons give you a nice sense of improvement, you get to talk to your classmates on a variety of topics, you do some homework, which you might not do on your own, you learn with the mistakes of others, they learn with yours, and so on, it's good as a starting point, an ice breaker, and your beginning in the new language is not alone. With time, as you improve more and more, only purely conversational lessons would make sense, and they'd help you to keep your speaking abilities.

I've come across that with Mandarin Chinese. The video claims to be comprehensible input, but whilst the person is talking they are often giving only vague clues as to what they are talking about, or no clue at all. And when they do give a clue, it can often be interpreted a couple of different ways. It's not comprehensible input to those that need it to be.

💯Yes, and that is a good way to use the language in everyday life situations.

I agree. Comparing the efficacy of rolling vs hours of kata it does speak for itself

It is amazing how well you can acquire a language by the simple technique of always being already able to comprehend 95% to 98% of a text before you start reading it.

Can you share what you did to learn or acquire it? Thanks

@@EnglishCassettes of course! watching movies and series with my native language translation and learning song lyrics. songs build up a hunch for grammar, movies let you use the visuals like the professor have mentioned, making you learn expressions and picking up repeated patterns. you wouldn’t even know from where you learned the word, it just gets acquired and becomes part of your brain.

Distant script is whatever, mostly. eg. Korean hangeul is distant, sure, but it's also pretty easy. Some scripts ( *cough* Chinese characters *cough* ) are just fucked up, period. With languages themselves, it's distance from a language you already know that matters most. But I think scripts are much more directly just a matter of easy or hard in an objective sense.

The four strands theory makes little to no sense for me. Why equal amounts? What purpose does that serve other than an arbitrary need for balance? What data indicates they are of equal important to language ability? Even if we assume 4-strands exist and are true for language development, it can't be assumed they're all equally important. So either they have data, or it was pure conjecture. Granted, I do know Paul Nation is a researcher so they might have data on it. If there is data on why the equal balance, would you mind sharing? I think the "four strands" theory valuing equal balance isn't correct. I think input-heavy is the way to go. 50%-75% of the time spent improving in the language comes from Comprehensible Input/input-based approach. For one reason alone. Input does in fact improve output. A person who has said zero words, but does have 4000 hours of Spanish input, will speak far beyond that of an absolute beginner if you get them to. There's no question about input improving output. Output is just improved at a significantly lower rate than listening/reading comprehension is through input.

@@HoraryHellfire 4000 hours.... So 2 hours a day 6 days a week for 6 years and you will speak far beyond that of an absolute beginner.....

@@stevencarr4002 Shoo troll. The phrasing "far beyond that of an absolute beginner" was used because: 1. People learn at different rates. 2. Output improves at the fraction of listening/reading do when receiving comprehensible input. I'm not going to lie and say 4000 hours WILL make someone an advanced language speaker in that language, especially for Level 5 languages from English. Like those bullshit polyglots going "I learned Spanish in 1 WEEK" or some stupid ass shit.

Ultimately it's all about daily exposure to the language. Be it reading, listening, doing execises...whatever.

One problem I have is that this is the classic ALG type of method. Radical comprehensible input. When I entered the refold path years ago I learned that specific vocab and sentence study accelerates acquisition, not by memorization but by priming your noticing function, so you are more apt to notice new words and grammar structures in context, then they become preconscious memory. If one does intensive study in the service of immersion, it's priming noticing, not memorizing. Learning in a vacuum without consuming the real language does not work. They're correct on that point but they take it to far in a contrarian place against study.

@@Shibby27ify The ALG school of thought actually intentionally avoids this for a reason, because when they were forming their methods, they found that students who were told to "notice" the language and try to decode it and figure out the pieces like a puzzle did significantly worse than those who were told to focus only on figuring out the message. Priming for noticing is actually harmful if noticing a word distracts you from consuming the message (or if the material is too hard that you can only notice words and not confidently take in the overall meaning, then that is wasteful because it's just not comprehensible input).

@@andrewrobinson2985 What is the best way to check if input really is I+1 input for yourself without ever noticing if the input does or does not contain new things?

@@Shibby27ify Good response, the ALG method failed people because every aspect has to be controlled meaning even with the best conditions it's likely not to work as advertised. Immersion and listening are not enough, and acquisition is immeasurable. People love to act like there's just only one way to learn languages and comprehensible input/immersion is the only true way. Nonsense it's just something to play with time to time in your learning as well as learning studying vocab and grammar. You mix lengths of time and percentages with each thing and use moderation as well. As well as deviating from moderation sometimes.

@@orlandocarrasquillo4481 Although I respect the ALG and radical CI methods, I've always wanted to try a pure ALG method some day as an experiment, and I'm totally in CI and immersion learning camps and skeptical of standard learning, of which completely failed my langauage learning dreams in the past, some people purporting these methods take a contrarian point to the point of dogma. Lamont from "Days and Words" said this how counter culture or counter ways can become their own dogma. For example, I'm into weight training and as a contrarian myself, I used to practice something called HIT or high intensity training. And although I generally use a lot if it's ideas it's a camp of telling anyone that doesn't workout with only one set to absolute failure is wrong and dumb and cherry pick science to support their dogma. When maybe there's still some truth to the standard ways of weight training by your way does bring something new and innovative to the table. This is why I love Refold. It's mostly a CI/ALG/immersion method but does allow for study for the purposes of immersion.

books work better

As I understand it, there are multiple intellectual camps in this line of research and both have bodies of papers that support their own position. I don’t know if one faction has conclusively “won” over the other. It seems that the vocab/grammar camp is still dominant in schools and the immersion camp is dominant on the internet.

Paul Nation is great. He doesn’t disagree with the approach taught here, but he shows that comprehensible input isn’t the whole story. Ultimately he advocates an approach called the 4 strands, which offers a balance of opportunities to practice meaning-focused (ie compressible) input, meaning-focused output (ie communicative events, without regard to correctness), language focused learning (ie deliberate study of vocab and grammar), and fluency

@@admasnd Just because there's an alternative to traditional language doesn't mean it's some infallible method. It's what I like to call the DeFacto well-wishing program of what you want to hear vs the real give and take of true learning. Everything can't be fun, even fun can turn into boring and repetitive, you can and will plateau with just about every avenue you take. You learn the most in the beginning and it takes more brain power to compile the information as you go up in levels. There's' too assumptions of memorizing vocab and grammar being bad, and acquisition, ci and immersion being the only way. Just like this loaded statement, "learn with context," yeah sometimes, because you can't always have the right answer even with context. The acquisition, ci and immersion camps have turned everything into just as dogmatic practice as traditional school-based methods. Melding things and knowing you can delve into a lot of things to keep learning is better than holding everything to steadfast rules. Everything in moderation even moderation. Playing the drinking game of learn like a child, natural way, context, ci, acquisition and immersion and whatever else tends to leave as many gaping holes as everything else. Do everything sometimes, sometimes on a large scale sometimes on a small scale.

Paul nation has previously stated his own failure in learning languages. I know what this video is saying is true because it's how I've learnt languages.

@@jasonjames6870 Unfortunately that's not how scientific research works. You've fallen into the same trap that Stephen Krashen has.

💯Using the language in everyday life situations like the ones you mentioned above is best! You will remember more and learn much faster!

Try to find content that you understand the majority of. Via "Comprehensible Input" (CI). I know a Japanese channel called "Comprehensible Japanese" that posts plenty of CI. The point of this video is based on CI, which is the understanding of messages results in acquisition.

💯full life immersion!

Krashen recommends vocabulary work. 'Both Evelyn Hatch and I have stated the argument for increased vocabulary work in recent years , and our argumentation is, I think, similar. While knowledge of vocabulary may not be sufficient for understanding all messages, there is little doubt that an increased vocabulary helps the acquirer understand more of what is heard or read Thus, more vocabulary should mean more comprehension of input, and more acquisition of grammar.' So Krashen recommends memorising vocabulary so you can better understand what you are reading or listening to.

Keep in mind that one's active knowledge will always surpass their passive knowledge. With comprehensible input, you will have far more passive knowledge than active knowledge. Additionally, the rate at which one learns to speak with comprehensible input is slower than improving listening/reading with comprehensible input. But your speaking will still improve! Just don't expect it to be super fast.