I’m pretty sure this is true of the USB-C retina MacBooks too…? Certainly my 2017 and 2020 13 inch, and my 2018 15 inch has it separate.

Lol after seeing this they would transfer few more chips onto the display just so no one would be able to do this with next macbooks. Mark my words.

@@datdudeinred insanely smart idea that you just gave them, thanks! Jokes aside tho I wouldn’t be surprised if they did that or made Macs basically not even turn on when a running main display is not connected :(

@@datdudeinred Despite what people think apple is not going out of thier way (spending money) to make things harder to repair they are just not considering third party repair at all. There is no way they would increase the cost of making each laptop for this.

@@hishnash well many parts are hardware locked, especially on iphones.

lol

Your computer does go out. The monitor will turn off. The benefit is might not lose data

​@@eomorani dont want to be mad, but did you kniw that portable monitors exist?

​@@eomoransame would happen with a mac mini except with the potential data loss. You made an irrelevant point.

@@kenshn22828it is a relevant point, the internal battery is not a fully functional UPS equivalent because you won’t be able to continue using the setup with the monitor powered off. _You_ made an irrelevant point.

@@whyamiwastingmytimeonthis The point isn't regarding whether or not the setup is functional without external power, the point is regarding WHAT HAPPENS when you lose power. The Macbook would remain on since it has a standalone battery whereas the mac mini would have no power and would immediately shut off. The mac mini could experience some data loss depending on what you were doing when it lost power. Neither of you made irrelevant points, you're arguing about two different things.

Yeah. Old laptops are great for servers. Take very little space, and you have the full keyboard access when required. Tug the machine under table on couple screwed metal brackets and you forget it existing. And then you just SSH in them as required. Or use VNC etc to have nice visual remote control.

I don't get why he didn't use a small usb dongle for WIFI and Bluetooth... Seems so much simpler to do.

@@nearcz533one downside is you lose a USB port. The way he did it has really no downsides aside from a bit of extra work

@@jarboerbut it’s never leaving your desk anyways. Not really a inconvenience to add a usb hub

You know me 😆

@@nearcz533I would probably go with a networking dongle too but if you only spend $60 on the machine, you might not want to spend another $20 for a dongle. That said, this machine has a/c wifi and Bluetooth 4 so you could get much more modern specs, especially BT, with a dongle.

another good thing is that you can upgrade the screen in a few years without needing to replace the entire machine, cool stuff

Shocker

You could just close the screen and connect 2nd monitor w/o ripping off the screen.

@@aleckravt3848 If the display was broken, there is almost no chance you could find a screen that isn't terrible for a reasonable price. At least macbooks have the advantage of having fewer SKUs so the displays are available, even at high prices. A random gaming laptop has no such luxury.

Like from 8 minutes to 16?

I have a wifi antenna I can just plug into usb

or just don't remove the screen and connect an external mouse and keyboard that's far better than the trackpad and keyboard on the macbook.

​@@Gertzerroz *Magic keyboard isn't backlit* and the magic mouse _suuucks._ MacBook keys and track pad is the far better-and less wasteful-solution.

This is good to know, as I'm trying to build a "dumb terminal" laptop.

Right.. But have you torn a mac down? Have fun ripping that cord apart for a USB. I personally get paid more than... Minimum. So.. to spend 2 hours on an extra USB, that is... what taped? floppy? Nah, ill spend 4.99 on the adapter at good will. (JUST bought a new apple keyboard and magic mouse for 10.99 at a good will, they still retail for over 100$ when the old mouse is now useless)

You're not LTT

why do people always get negative about some cheap trash turned into SOMETHING lol it's pathetic

​@@WhiteGuyWhoSwims dude it is four wires and you can even repurpose the connector. There is probably somewhere in Taipei or Shenzhen that'll sell you ready made cable. Repurposing commodity hardware is really worthwhile from an economic and environmental standpoint. Think of a plastic clamshell with a place and internally routed cable to hold the smartphone built into the hinge (see old olivetti typewriter keyboard covers for reference). I think I'll design one of these, actually. Might even investigate how to repurpose the screen bus, it must be something fairly standards based.

That sounds sweet. Would love to see a photo of that!

Photos or it didn’t happen

@@t20594 was going to say this

🎉 definitely would love to see pics!

Me too, id love to see a photo please😭

Good old Ivy Bridge days

@@lukemiani I miss those days dearly. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying the M.

@@lukemiani Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge was released in 2012

@@lukemiani Did you get the inspiration for this from the Gameboy Macro? People have been taking a Nintendo DS Lite, ripping off the top screen, to have something slim and tiny to shove into their pockets that can be hacked and play games from the DS, GBA, GBC, Turbografx, Sega Master, NES, and Atari. It's pretty cool.

Do you still recommend doing this? I'm thinking of buying a laptop for programming work and yeah it'd be great to swap between devices on my monitor

@@emberavenge7162 It depends on the macbook model, and the price you could get it for. I would really recommend m1 air or pro macbooks with damaged screens. Because they are really powerfull and dont have any issues with keyboards.

Thanks! Do you know if a headless mbp 2021 16 M1 Pro would work?

@@rainerzufall9627 yes they work perfectly and screens are easy to remove.

what about A1502's wifi antennas?

Built-in UPS as well

hopefully, the prices don't get inflated because of this headless idea.

And MacBook speakers are pretty great too! And you'll still have ports available.

Agreed 👍 🎉😂😅 If we can run these computers for a while longer. That’s a bonus for all of us. ❤ Now to find a used broken MacBook 💻 Pro. 😂

But the thing is a lot of these headless units have their board repaired and probably will not last long. Given M2 Mac mini is so cheap, there isn't much reason to still buy these units.

Would be epic, Apple IV (we had the Apple III already). They should have done that rather than the macPro just to troll people. ...

@@hishnash Steve Wozniak would love that... jony, notsomuch

I thought this looked familiar!

Looks like ZX spectrum (Sinclair Z80 computer) from 90-s, very popular in low price segment😹

@@hrissan 80s

Lack of a fan could be a factor for people using high performance programs like for video editing

no, video editing does not need high performance at all, just time, which is not the case with any apple silicon machine because of dedicated chips for that purpose, no issue@@42cosmonauts

@@42cosmonautsif you need a fan than you could use the 13 inch m1 pro

@@jacksonkuzmicheadless M1 Pro 13. Great idea!

My 13' M1 Pro had a flex gate problem, I did the same mod last year and I didn't even know that it was a thing. Coolest thing ever! @@scottphardin

Especially with a custom/purposeful case like those people who rip apart chromebooks and use their guts like raspberry pi's. Definitely would be a fun productive experiment with a sensible endgoal, unlike removing a screen and then plugging in a monitor to an input that was there the whole time & calling it a build lol

Glad you enjoyed! These older machines sure have a lot of potential even today!

That's. Not. Normal.

​@@PurpleSucks.but its smart and keeps ewaste out of out of landfills plus cheap

@@connerlucas8277true

@@PurpleSucks.yup, it’s better than normal

I hate this class system. Why cant your family member get the new macbook air and you keep using your old shit. Its like that lord from Braveheart who gets to sleep with your wife before you do

Yes, I did this with a 2020 MBP with a blown LED fuse.

Yes, and it's actually easier on those models because the antenna bar is located in the top-case as a separate part.

@@jcw1569m soc or intel?

@@cosettapessa6417 apple silicon

I’ve done with an m1 air

This is why everyone should consider Framework Laptops if they are purchasing a new laptop, IMO. Will it beat out a new macbook in efficiency? No. But it has the benefit of having sanely priced replacement parts and tutorials for everything. You can even upgrade the entire system board to a new generation. Oh, and what do you do with the old board?.. Well, you can buy.. Or 3D print a case for it and stick it behind a TV as a small media device. OEMs, Apple included need incentive to change their practices which just creates e-waste.

You can do it! Luke's videos and iFixit or others make it accessible, if not easy.

Yeah, I was thinking he should have kept it to be a nostril-cam too! Oh well

with that spirit I'm surprised you're not already an apple user

scarcity breeds more profit.

Providing parts for 10 year old Macs is not as easy as you might think. The production lines that produced those screens have long since moved on, so if you wanted to fire them back up there would be a large overhead in cost making the per screen cost much much higher than would be acceptable (as the number of displays they would produce would be low). For this situation of old devices what would be better would be to provide the schematics and CAD files etc with a license to that third party vendors could go out and make alternative parts (not OEM). With the specs having a license that others could target (legally) im sure some companies would figure out how to make little adaptors to that you could attache more commodity display panels without needed to fire up a dedicated production line again.

Apple gives not a shit about making their crap fixable

@@bb5242 Not true apple care a lot about this, but only when it is themselves doing the fixing. When you get a warranty replacement you are not getting a new product you are getting a refurbished product (in a new case) that fixability saves apple a LOT of money compared to taking a new product of the production line and giving it to you. This is why apple prefure skews (lots of them) over glue, it saves them money in the long term.

@@hishnash exactly

You are absolutely right. I have been selling new Apple computers and repairing Macs as a certified technician for over 14 years. I hear time and time again from my customers that they have been told at the Apple Store that their Mac is obsolete at 5 years or more of use. This is how Apple sells new computers, but it is simply a lie and anything but honest or in the interest of the environment. In my consultations with customers, I communicate quite differently because judging a Mac by age is wrong. I judge a Mac by its compatibility with the current operating system. And even that doesn't matter if the customer still gets on well with an older macOS version and can do everything with it. So I repair Macs much more often than I sell new ones because that is more economical for the customers, as long as the performance of their Mac is still sufficient. In fact, most users only use Safari, Mail, Photos, Pages/Word, and a few other apps. Nothing that would require enormous performance. And very few people need an M2 for that if the CPU was hardly used to capacity with an i5/i7.

@@level16gmbh83 It baffles me that customers shell out 1500+ dollars for a macbook while they could perfectly live with a 250 dollar chromebook...

What's really most important to Apple is the price of their stock. They have to extract as much money from customers as possible, every quarter, to protect shareholder value.

All while they scream at public for hurting the world while claiming they are the pure ones saving it... Like electric cars not being repaired and keeping silent about needing new battery packs all the time for extreme prices.. They could use Hydrogen with a normal engine but that would mean people could fix their cars and fill them as they want for travel over any distance... They instead want to make new cars into current phones.. No repair, your every bit of info monitored and your controlled by the product creator..

@@level16gmbh83 i think its funny how "fast" Macs get obsolete (officially). I mean I still could use a 2010 laptop normally for these tasks you mentioned, if it came with an i5 (maybe even higher-tier C2D) when upgraded to an SSD and more RAM, as long as it runs Linux or Windows. 2010 MacBook Pros didn't get a new macOS since 2017 and the last security update was 2020. Atleast with Intel Macs you have the option possibility to install Windows/Linux, but I don't wanna know how this will work out with Apple Silicon Macs

Apple needs to become customer friendly to begin with.

That's the factory location of that clutch cover so it's not blocking any more that it would with the screen still on.

@@Thomas_Bannon With the screen on it's not actually touching, it's a round thing that lets air through above and below. Not ideal but it's the only vent on the device...

Except the 2017 Air and 12-inch MacBook =)

@@HeTake123 The 2017 air is in every way the 2015 one so it does not count as being 2016 amd later. The 12 inch MacBook uses the housing of the speakers as its antennas and are not connected to the display in any way. The in-display antennas died with the 2015 macbook pro and air. I rest my case.

@@mirceamihai94 You're right about the 12 inch MacBook, but wrong about 2017 Air ;)

Sent a message to you

No it wouldn't, and no they don't. It's a fashion accessory and therefore any logic and reason surrounding it goes right out the window. Any other laptop is plastic and can bounce around loose in the trunk of a car for a decade and be just fine, a macbook blows the screen out if you set a coffee mug on top of it and everyone knows it. People with less brains and more money will still buy them, they make them less repairable every generation and they still sell. Or do you actually think it's some big secret that they make them intentionally fragile and also hard to repair?

Was thinking of that too, But as he said around the 7:11: mark "Because ugly" lol.

It shouldn’t cover the vents any more then the original display did

The _best_ Linus. Hopefully the Linus that _doesn’t_ become the villain.

@@_..-.._..-.._ let’s hope he doesn’t ask for donations one day for something he could cover himself like a different UKpostsr in the Apple tech space.

It's like gamblers, man. They never tell you about all the times they lost. Only the wins.

I’ve gotten plenty of similar deals working on my collection! I’m up to a beautiful 1 GHz TiBook, my M1 MBA, M1 Max MBP, two Late 2013 rMBPs, a 2011 17” quad-core MBP, and a 2008 17” Core 2 Duo MBP. All have been exactly what I’ve ordered.

Oh and I forgot my 2015 and 2017 MacBook Airs, which I use as headless servers due to their builtin UPS (battery woot!) and ability to internally use super cheap, super big, super fast, super available mass-market nvme SSDs using a cheap little adapter.

People have been doing this with laptops for over 20 years. I guess apple users have just discovered this now 😅