F1 vs Super Formula - 2022 Suzuka Detailed Comparison

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@yelistener
@yelistener 6 місяців тому
Alonso loses 1 cylinder and runs on V5: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qJqffJp5inqel3U.html
@BeelzebulKlendathu
@BeelzebulKlendathu Рік тому
I already forgot how this track looks without advertisement panels on every barrier. Thank you, Super Formula for reminding me.
@BeelzebulKlendathu
@BeelzebulKlendathu Рік тому
@Atomfurz00 Yep, me too. Always liked this distinctive red, white and green checked pattern at Suzuka, but nowadays it's hardly visible.
@protalukoriginal4560
@protalukoriginal4560 Рік тому
@Atomfurz00 Ikr, F1 tracks look literally the same with the branding
@san-joshuabarrett
@san-joshuabarrett Рік тому
Pointless to hate when the sport wouldnt be posible without the ads.
@ecksoal
@ecksoal Рік тому
​@windfall Why? Trackside advertising has been a part of the sport since day one, if it ruins your enjoyment of the race just look at the cars instead, it's really not a huge deal.
@jameshoffa7085
@jameshoffa7085 11 місяців тому
@@ecksoal moron
@CatfishSprinkles
@CatfishSprinkles Рік тому
I'd love to see SF on board compared to a back marker F1 on board.
@overland1204
@overland1204 Рік тому
oooh nice, i would love SF and F2 Comparison tho
@atho5914
@atho5914 Рік тому
Agreed
@TheDatpussy
@TheDatpussy Рік тому
Don't you talk about lord latifi like that!
@luca_bagnoli
@luca_bagnoli Рік тому
@@overland1204 F2 is usually 10-12 seconds slower than F1. Super Formula is faster than F2
@thegreatafrican3367
@thegreatafrican3367 Рік тому
The F1 car would still completely destroy it because you know... it's an F1 car?
@paulmartom
@paulmartom Рік тому
The super formula has always been a very nice category
@midnightpurple18
@midnightpurple18 Рік тому
SF and Indy, yeah
@lorenzograndini2731
@lorenzograndini2731 Рік тому
@Atomfurz00 Well that's not true
@rejuzaman6365
@rejuzaman6365 Рік тому
@@lorenzograndini2731 i didn't know super formula until this video
@aygoaccount5251
@aygoaccount5251 Рік тому
Wait until you see their pitstops
@meltered441
@meltered441 Рік тому
@@aygoaccount5251 the "acrobatic" stops haven't been a thing since 2 years ago sadly
@mpa1931
@mpa1931 Рік тому
This actually shows how amazing the SF cars are despite the power disadvantage.
@SamuelC558
@SamuelC558 11 місяців тому
They don't even have drs
@syncmonism
@syncmonism 10 місяців тому
They are clearly one of the highest level open wheel racing competitions in the world.
@buzisions1423
@buzisions1423 8 місяців тому
they have less weight tho, but still they are pretty damn quick
@souldry
@souldry 6 місяців тому
I’m pretty sure they’re like the second fastest thing behind F1 cars.
@Jesko.
@Jesko. 5 місяців тому
@@souldry Depends on the track. Most tracks LMP1 would be faster due to way more power and downforce.
@xdgamerz101
@xdgamerz101 Рік тому
i like the onboard cam of the superformula more ngl its wayy more centered like ur playing a game
@dramaticallyepic
@dramaticallyepic Рік тому
i personally prefer the tv pod view tbh
@Cesp43
@Cesp43 Рік тому
It's like the indycar t-cam. It also makes the cars look faster
@CJ22930
@CJ22930 Рік тому
If F1 only removed stabilization like Indy.
@nicolaslabra2225
@nicolaslabra2225 Рік тому
@@CJ22930 F1 onboard cameras do not have stabilization, they are glued to the car, Indycar cameras are on a gymball and can rotate, they are stabilized.
@LeJimster
@LeJimster Рік тому
I'm following Liam Lawson in SF this year. Funnily enough he said it feels like a F1 car in the corners, so this video is spot on.. I'm looking forward to the next race in Suzuka. Usually the very best drivers rise to the top at that track.
@nestroit5010
@nestroit5010 Рік тому
the higher weight is really showing in slow corners. SF is quite impressive
@mclarenf101
@mclarenf101 Рік тому
Ground effect really slowed down F1's slow corner speed this year as well.
@bukwok
@bukwok Рік тому
@@mclarenf101 new f1 car just too heavy , make the car looks very lazy in slow corner, but in this track not so bad, lighter car just feel and looks faster even slower lap time,hybrid era f1 keep adding weight year by year, but somehow still make the faster and faster, hope 2023 can make it faster in slow corner, i think 2020 got the faster f1 car in hybrid era.
@apophisstr6719
@apophisstr6719 8 місяців тому
@@bukwok 2020 is indeed the very peak in terms of outright lap times for F1, the new floor reg introduced in 2021 had lower the ceiling quite a bit, and with the ground effect car it was dropped off significantly, mostly just because of the weight, though.
@GiorGiiTV
@GiorGiiTV Рік тому
If only F1 made the cars lighter instead of making them boats, F1 would be even faster through those slow/medium speed corners
@piotrgornicki6533
@piotrgornicki6533 Рік тому
Boats? More like armored vehicles.
@anurag15271
@anurag15271 Рік тому
yup and bis chunky tyres also help a lot
@MarkiLiar
@MarkiLiar Рік тому
why would they do that? it's about safety too
@TheNamesArif
@TheNamesArif Рік тому
safety plays a big role
@needlessToo
@needlessToo Рік тому
That's the point. They don't want the cars to fly through the corners. There are people in those cars and protecting them is the priority.
@Jaytalise
@Jaytalise Рік тому
Super Formula although slower actually looks faster. F1 should use their camera setup because it would give us that sense of speed again
@HoutarouOrekiOsu
@HoutarouOrekiOsu Рік тому
No. You would just get used to it and then it wouldn't make a difference.
@juancruzporta1678
@juancruzporta1678 Рік тому
Exactly mate! much more exciting than F1 on boards
@Stance1988
@Stance1988 Рік тому
@@HoutarouOrekiOsu wrong
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius Рік тому
Honestly it's because of the framerate and stabilization of the camera they're using. From what I can tell is that F1 is having a 60fps stabilized footage, while SF is using 30fps with little to no stabilization CMIIW
@TimDaOne
@TimDaOne Рік тому
The Formula 1 camera is on top of the engine intake, on the Super Formula this is lower and the lower you are the faster you feel like you're going
@lw8249
@lw8249 Рік тому
They did 1.34.3 in 2020, Nick Cassidy, so just 5 sec behind with like 600hp. Incredible DF to weight ratio.
@filipfilip8293
@filipfilip8293 11 місяців тому
Well F1 in 2020 was also faster ;D
@c3gfboy7
@c3gfboy7 7 місяців тому
And…the engine is an in-line 4
@The_Pocisk
@The_Pocisk Рік тому
Great comparison. Just quick remind that lap record for SFormula at Suzuka is 1'34.442 from 2020 by Nick Cassidy (probably no telemetry data for this one)
@ElderWand777
@ElderWand777 6 місяців тому
Great video man, very interesting to watch
@user-ok7oh1pu1w
@user-ok7oh1pu1w Рік тому
素晴らしい比較映像です👍
@harryskinters.8742
@harryskinters.8742 Рік тому
Outstanding video. Thank you 🙏
@isuckatthisgame
@isuckatthisgame Рік тому
I love Super Formula. Onboards at Sugo look insane.
@worminator15
@worminator15 Рік тому
very good comparisan man, thanks a lot
@guanweihe7614
@guanweihe7614 Рік тому
Discovered and fell in love with Japanese SF because of the assetto corsa mod of the car Amazing what that car does with so little power, and they prove that slower cars do indeed lead to better racing I hope F1 takes a look at their approach on the cars and learn, as much as F1 is about pure speed, they’re unnecessarily fast and if by lowering the lap times 2-4s we can improve the show, then I’m all for it
@mattroyce
@mattroyce 4 місяці тому
idk about that one bro, slower is not better. the size of the the formula one car now is the main issue
@K3b1bisLtu
@K3b1bisLtu 14 днів тому
They're not at all slow.
@Anonumoususer1111
@Anonumoususer1111 Рік тому
Your videos are very informative and insightful. Thank you
@Aeyir
@Aeyir 4 місяці тому
One notable thing I noticed is how the Super Formula driver does not seem to be on top of his race line so much and doesn't attempt to corner as hard as an F1 driver would. He basically does not attempt to use the track limits so much.
@ariefhf
@ariefhf Рік тому
Waw thanks for the good work. Great video
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 7 місяців тому
Super Formula has the perfect power x drag ratio. It only needs more downforce on high speed corners so they can reach those top speeds sooner and make more use of slipstream. Their push to pass put the cars side by side perfectly rather than giving a free pass.
@Deathblow85
@Deathblow85 Рік тому
tnx for the video!
@ryujiinahara
@ryujiinahara Рік тому
スーパーフォーミュラ 速いんだね。これくらいの差しかないのは 驚き。
@8888swatt
@8888swatt Рік тому
Excellently constructed comparison. With any of these comparisons we should remember that many of the TRs in F1 have the effect of limiting the vehicles' outright performance. That said, these comparisons are still fascinating to watch and taking any formula car to the limit lap after lap requires exceptional skill from the driver.
@Alan-ww8vi
@Alan-ww8vi Рік тому
TRs?
@8888swatt
@8888swatt Рік тому
@@Alan-ww8vi Technical Regulation. Things like the maximum instantaneous fuel flow rate or minimum weight of the car for example.
@Alan-ww8vi
@Alan-ww8vi Рік тому
@@8888swatt I thought that's you meant, but you said it like it's unique to F1, which it isn't. Literally every category will be many many times faster there were no TRs.
@8888swatt
@8888swatt Рік тому
@@Alan-ww8vi True but F1 does have the unique phenomena of hyper development and so sporadic rule changes aimed (wholly or partly) at slowing the cars down. But what you say was kinda my point; the cars will only go as quick as their formula regs will allow. I didn't mean performance limiting rules were unique to F1, I only meant it in the sense that the excellent video implied the F1 car was the performance bench mark for a formula car so I was just noting that even an F1car is performance limited by the regs. That all said it is still a cool video.
@epicshibexd5049
@epicshibexd5049 10 місяців тому
@@8888swatt Makes me wonder what a 919 Evo-style F1 car would be like. Considering the old regulations from 2017 - 2021 were the fastest ever in the history of the sport, maybe one of the teams should make an unrestricted car.
@constantinnescu1564
@constantinnescu1564 9 місяців тому
Very informativ video. Lots of thanks.
@KillRoy117
@KillRoy117 Рік тому
The Yokohama tires are so much better than the Pirellis. Vandoorne mentioned in an interview how they could go an entire race on one set of tires because they still carried performance. If F1 tires werent so bad they would be flying. This limiting factor is a damper on the sport. Deserves more attention.
@foxy126pl6
@foxy126pl6 Рік тому
F1 wants a fast degrading tires, F1 asked pirelli to make tires that degrade fast, so thats what they got. Im sure pirelli could make a tire that lasts all race if they wanted to...
@jraybay
@jraybay Рік тому
Not really... The Bridgestone tires of 2010 were capable of going the entire distance on some occasions, and pirelli stepped in from 2011 onwards with the request to make high degradation tires. This is what they want
@KramarV
@KramarV Рік тому
You are absolutely right!
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 7 місяців тому
@@foxy126pl6 degradation itself is not the issue, thermal degradation is. So comparison still stands. I doubt Pirelli would be able to do a tire that can go for the whole race pushing non stop without overheating given that even the harder compound can suffer from this.
@petouser
@petouser 6 місяців тому
@@Willbrse Yeah, for some reason temperature windows always seem to be the most narrow at Pirelli, regardless of the category.
@israeljoao5532
@israeljoao5532 Рік тому
Simply the best comparison ever on this channel, A Japanese Formula Super car that is one of the fastest cars in the world, just below F1 in corners. And even more with telemetry. I loved this comparison, I'm totally happy after watching this very explanatory video, congratulations brother, it was an excellent video. Imagine these SF cars with a seventh gear, and a Drs, along with a Kers? with at least 700hp, I think these cars would match an F1 in pace
@zCxtalyst
@zCxtalyst Рік тому
Well you have to remember the aerodynamics of these cars are also built with the capabilities of its speed and acceleration in mind. A drastic increase in horsepower would likely decrease the aerodynamic efficiency to an extent. Don't forget an F1 car weighs much more than a SF car and part of that is defo the hulk engine/minimum weight regulation
@israeljoao5532
@israeljoao5532 9 місяців тому
​@@zCxtalystYes yes, you are absolutely right. More power could have aerodynamic implications on the SF, but I believe that if they added a DRS to these SF cars, they could be faster in the straights, without losing too much in the corners... The Japanese engineers are very good, They would create solutions to work around problems and maintain or even improve cornering performance.
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 7 місяців тому
If you did that these cars would race terrible. Their power x drag ratio is perfect, they are fun to watch. They don't need more power. They need more downforce to reach top speeds sooner and make more use of slipstream so they can race even better than they do now. They reduced downforce a bit but managed to reduce dirt air by a huge amount this year. They raced a bit better before tho. I wish they did the opposite and gave the cars more downforce instead. Dirt air is not much of a problem if you have enough drag to make slipstream more valuable.
@latelierpunk1348
@latelierpunk1348 Рік тому
Very interesting! I'd love to see more of these with other tracks and/or other racing series. What about Indycar VS F1 at COTA next time 🤓?
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 7 місяців тому
Seems like Superformula cars had few more kph than F1 cars in terms of cornering speed.
@GatorJT15
@GatorJT15 Рік тому
this channel is amazing!
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura Рік тому
Excellent comparison. That Super Formula car really punches above its weight.
@greedycobra1446
@greedycobra1446 Рік тому
These videos are great 👍🏻
@piotrgornicki6533
@piotrgornicki6533 Рік тому
Can't wait to see how fast the RB17 will be… maybe I will get to live until it goes on track.
@hirotaniguchi5594
@hirotaniguchi5594 9 місяців тому
Great comparison!
@maxxdx00
@maxxdx00 Рік тому
Yo nice video mate. May I ask where you get this telemetry from? I would like to get a better look during race weekends myself
@idk-eb7mb
@idk-eb7mb Рік тому
I don't know for SF, but for F1 you can get it in MultiViewer for f1, he isn't using it in this video, but he has used it in others (including the one before this one)
@theoausborn5682
@theoausborn5682 Рік тому
Check out F1tv can watch any pov of any session live or prerecorded
@ForzaPolska06
@ForzaPolska06 Рік тому
@@theoausborn5682 but there is no onboard telemetry on F1TV
@semihkaya9170
@semihkaya9170 Рік тому
great video useful info.. thanx
@DMS16
@DMS16 6 місяців тому
Think also about the weight. F1 now is super heavy. 798kg minimum weight against 660 of SF. That’s a lot in terms of middle/slow corners. Also the 2022 gen cars are slower in general than before due to lack of complex aerodynamics and the limited floor effect/diffuser Great video!
@TenthAvenue94
@TenthAvenue94 Рік тому
It's crazy just how quick SF cars are. They should give them some more HP!
@mikulitsi1819
@mikulitsi1819 Рік тому
Oh yesss finally we can have an updated comparison between these two cars
@theindubitable
@theindubitable Рік тому
Actually impressive downforce from the SF. Maybe a omparison had been between the a Williams and SF car would be even better because of lack of downforce, I think the straight-line speed is one thing but I think it would be close when it comes to downforce
@estebanmuth
@estebanmuth Рік тому
One thing that you have to note is tyres . Tyres in SF are whey better then f1 tyres which definitely helps for cornering , also f1 has more downforce tyres are still the biggest factor in terms of grip . For me superformula are doing a mega job !
@theindubitable
@theindubitable Рік тому
@@estebanmuth Are they (SF) also going to come with new cars soon or they already did?
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius Рік тому
​@@theindubitable The SF19 as the name suggests, debuted on 2019, so it's still a pretty young chassis for a "spec" series. (I know it's not a true spec series much like IndyCar but you get the gist of it).
@theindubitable
@theindubitable Рік тому
@@AbrahamArthemius Ok thanks for your clarification!
@epicshibexd5049
@epicshibexd5049 Рік тому
@@AbrahamArthemius How is it not a true spec series? I don't know much about either IndyCar or SF but I always hear them referred to as spec series.
@TundeEszlari
@TundeEszlari Рік тому
The video was amazing.🙂
@kjteam8008
@kjteam8008 Рік тому
そう思ったらスーパーフォーミュラのドライバーもマシンもほんとすげえんだな……
@user-jv9df1bj5u
@user-jv9df1bj5u Рік тому
遅いっちゃ遅いけどパッと見F1と速さ変わらんしなぁ
@cyclopszn8895
@cyclopszn8895 Рік тому
Nice work bro
@raymondo43
@raymondo43 Рік тому
Always nice to watch Super Formula onboards.
@ThomasFilbert
@ThomasFilbert Рік тому
This is such a more useful comparison format
@user-lc9dx7sn8b
@user-lc9dx7sn8b Рік тому
比較動画おもしろかったです。 最高速度が裏ストレートではなくてホームストレートだったのが意外。
@ahmetkemalkeskin5445
@ahmetkemalkeskin5445 Рік тому
Excellent comparison mate. Thank you for this video. I have a request for you. Is there any way we can properly compare F2 and Super Formula cars? Since the chassis are almost the same and the power deficit between them is much lower (AFAIK F2 cars have around 650HP as opposed to SF cars' 550HP), I feel like a comparison between the two would be interesting.
@jansonb482
@jansonb482 Рік тому
SF would smash the F2 by quite a lot
@ahmetkemalkeskin5445
@ahmetkemalkeskin5445 Рік тому
@@jansonb482 Idk man I think it would be much closer like around 2-2.5 seconds
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius Рік тому
SF will probably edge out F2 by a couple seconds since even though they have a deficit in horsepower the SF19 has more complex aero to produce more downforce which resulting to higher cornering speed. Keep in mind SF19 also has OTS system similar to IndyCar's system which give the car a few more horsepower which the drivers can use at any part of the track compared to F2's "limited" DRS zone.
@SwingAxleLover
@SwingAxleLover 6 місяців тому
@@AbrahamArthemius This is true, but I don't believe SF allows use of the OTS in qualifying. I'm not certain though
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 6 місяців тому
@@SwingAxleLover No, i don't think they do if it's quali
@AmbientMike
@AmbientMike Рік тому
Fantastic comparisons. I've seen a handful of your vids but you got a subscriber with this one.
@conejero00
@conejero00 Рік тому
F1, PLEASE, GIVE US THE BRAKE TELEMETRY IN 0 - 100%, NOT ON/OFF Do it like SF I beg you!!
@mariop8101
@mariop8101 11 місяців тому
What we need is a Super Formula World Championship in the same cars and some more engines, racing in Suzuka, Fuji, Monza, Imola, Spa, Silverstone, Portimão, Austin, Austria, Interlagos, Nürburgring, Sepang, Istanbul, Hockenheim, Paul Ricard old track layout, Le Mans Le Sartre, Monterrey Laguna Seca etc. With some drivers from FE like Vergne, Felix da Costa, Wehrlein, Nick Cassidy, Jack Dennis, Vandoorne, Mitch Evans, Sam Bird. Som Indycar drivers like Palou, Pato O'ward, Colton Herta, Alex Rossi, Josef Newgarden, Lundgard, Illot, Grosjean, Scott Dixon, Scott McLaughlin etc. Some young drivers from F2 like Iwasa, Jack Doohan, Enzo Fittipaldi, Teo Pourchaire, Victor Martins. Some forgotten F1 drivers, like Daniel Ricciardo, Filipe Druguvich. SF Liam Lawson.
@raavanhitech
@raavanhitech Рік тому
Maybe you could compare the worst f1 car of a season with the best f2 car of that season? I think it would be fun
@RyosukeTakahashi.
@RyosukeTakahashi. 9 місяців тому
F1の下位チームとなら互角かそれ以上の戦いができそう。
@matteocecconi7560
@matteocecconi7560 Рік тому
Interesting, we need to see f2 vs SF now pls 🙏
@F1unit
@F1unit Рік тому
How do you get that speedometer? Crazy explanation, that speed metre helps it a lot
@mariankucera5178
@mariankucera5178 Рік тому
Hi mate. Thanks for this comparison and analysis. Very interesting. I have a request. It would be possible to compare Super Formula with Formula 2. That would be almost on the same level. Thank you.
@guitarsimon1
@guitarsimon1 Рік тому
Really nice illustration of what the aero is doing vs the engine/drag on high speed sections.
@erikgaede5572
@erikgaede5572 Рік тому
What is the name of the song? Also, nice edit and cool to see the difference between F1 and other competitions
@rickygrenadier6303
@rickygrenadier6303 Рік тому
did you find out?
@-212-
@-212- Рік тому
Merci !
@Flociety
@Flociety Рік тому
Syncing the two cars sector by sector was a smarter move than just showing the full laps. It's able to show the differences in the two cars that way. Though, adding the lap times of each car during the video would also help visualize the time differences better than just stating it in the captions
@rybackracing8075
@rybackracing8075 Рік тому
Didn’t realise SF cars were that quick compared to F1, despite the lesser power. Got to question spending so much to develop cars that actually aren’t that much faster, and with more power the SF car would be way closer.
@chanchaniceman
@chanchaniceman Рік тому
The lap time of that Nojiri set 2022 Super Formula car is only 3-4 tenths off Michael Schumacher’s pole position lap time in the Ferrari which was a “1:35.825” during qualifying in the 2000 Japanese Grand Prix.
@perspii2808
@perspii2808 Рік тому
Super Formula cars are surprisingly quick. Really impressive that it’s only 7 seconds given the engine deficit F1 desperately needs to go back to smaller, lighter cars tbh
@Little_Alesi
@Little_Alesi Рік тому
Very good video
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 Рік тому
I think the first comment kinda sums it up: F1 cars have more HP hence they're faster hence it takes less time for them to cover all parts of the track. The effect being less pronounced in the corners.
@rileyberkowitz
@rileyberkowitz Рік тому
Could you do this type of comparison for indycar at Cota after f1 qualifying there next race?
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168 Рік тому
F1 cars have been massively slowed down in the low speed corners for the last decade. Current cars are over 150KG heavier and much longer than the 2010 cars ( which had the most amount of downforce in the V8 era ). Obviously in the high speed corners they're unreal, but a lighter car is always much more fun to drive.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm Рік тому
they need to bring these cars back to at least the 750 kg mark. still relatively heavy, but much better than 800 kg
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Рік тому
I wished that the double diffuser/blown diffuser era overlapped in the V8 era the downforce would have been insane I remember the 2010 Red Bull car taking Campsa flat at like 260kph my mind was blown incredible machine
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168 Рік тому
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 where's campsa? I know Seb took copse corner of silverstone flat out with 290 kph
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Рік тому
@@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168 turn 9 Barcelona the high speed right hand corner
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168 Рік тому
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 ahh yeah. Even faster than 2022 cars through that corner.
@user-gg8hq8fh8b
@user-gg8hq8fh8b Рік тому
Super Formula = F1.5 ?
@randompalmtopgaming7541
@randompalmtopgaming7541 Рік тому
Very surprising downforce levels of Super Formula!
@Cereslash
@Cereslash Рік тому
in the last chicane, Super Formula actually gained something at Formula 1
@EfficientTrout
@EfficientTrout Рік тому
SF car is only 4 cylinders too which makes it even more impressive
@shouryaparampill6697
@shouryaparampill6697 Рік тому
4 cylinder?!?! Still sounds better than the F1 V6 engine 😅
@TheJokerit19
@TheJokerit19 Рік тому
I'd rather have a non-stop comparison than a sector-specific one, though. All F1-SF Suzuka pole lap comparisons I've seen thus far have only been interrupted by sector timing points, so uninterrupted would be nice for a change. Furthermore, uninterrupted gives a full l idea of relative outright single-lap performance, even if the difference is massive.
@chimchim2_
@chimchim2_ Рік тому
Max's lap is really smooth
@patrickr4762
@patrickr4762 Рік тому
Sebs’ as well. His steering input in his quali was so smooth.
@TeddyOn
@TeddyOn Рік тому
Very nice comparison. I liked SF cars. One question: why is the -7 gap against Max's name in a yellow color?) I guess it should be green if it's a gap in favor of Max Verstappen
@davemieze9021
@davemieze9021 Рік тому
God I love this. I’m a race nerd.
@overland1204
@overland1204 Рік тому
i would love to see an SF vs F2 comparison
@dit2256
@dit2256 Рік тому
Up
@blazi2293
@blazi2293 Рік тому
They don't race on the same tracks so we can't have a direct real life comparison. But SF cars would surely smash the F2 cars
@idk-eb7mb
@idk-eb7mb Рік тому
This basically says that SF and F1 have similar mechanical grip right?
@randomdude8877
@randomdude8877 Рік тому
I wonder how much weight difference there is
@GiorGiiTV
@GiorGiiTV Рік тому
@@randomdude8877 I believe SF are around 650kg & F1 is around 790/800kg+(no driver) even reaching 900kg with full fuel tank + driver & car
@UncleRJ
@UncleRJ Рік тому
Super Formula -has 2 less cylinders -makes 400 less horsepowers -has 2 less gears -lower downforce *Is only 7 seconds off from F1*
@ollelarsson995
@ollelarsson995 Рік тому
7 secs is an eternity in racing, SF will be lapped in a race
@ollelarsson995
@ollelarsson995 Рік тому
Lapped like two times or more
@secretsquirrel6257
@secretsquirrel6257 Рік тому
Impressive!
@talktalkalot6196
@talktalkalot6196 Рік тому
need to compare SF with F2! Once the F2 cars are much slower than F1 and F2 is considered a preparation for F1 tough, but yeah, it's a nice video
@victornag5230
@victornag5230 Рік тому
Can u pls do a lap comparison from 2014 or 2015 to modern SF please?
@sannyassi73
@sannyassi73 Рік тому
Going off of just this video SF looks like it would be more interesting to watch. On a different note- I wish F1 could experiment more like they used to, there's way too many regulations =\
@Fijidummo
@Fijidummo Рік тому
I think they should give the superformulas a bit more power, like 750ish would be dope to see
@gameofflife
@gameofflife 9 місяців тому
The weight plays a key role, SF is 670Kg, F1 is 798Kg (both including driver)
@theunknown21329
@theunknown21329 Рік тому
Comparison in the Merc era would be insane
@RB26N
@RB26N Рік тому
amazing video, Super formula is not bad at all. bit more downforce and get a high revving high power honda V10 in there it would be just as fast as 2022 F1.
@patrickr4762
@patrickr4762 Рік тому
Was about to say. A bit more power it would be as fast as a Haas.
@Until_It_Is_Done
@Until_It_Is_Done Рік тому
@@patrickr4762 it would need more than "a bit". Like 400hp more. And even then, with that extra power would come extra weight. It would take more than power to make them equal..
@highlander5521
@highlander5521 Рік тому
if you look at it that way, it's pure power so the super formula is more efficient.
@KevinAbillGaming
@KevinAbillGaming 11 місяців тому
Oh damn, I remembered Tomoki Nojiri collided with Toshiki Oyu in this year's Suzuka GP of Super Formula, Oyu was looking at his sights for a pole-to-win, but Nojiri ruined it.
@Knaecketoast
@Knaecketoast Рік тому
imagine these two compared in monaco ^^
@tiutubanana7506
@tiutubanana7506 Рік тому
A como mistake here, SF19 car has 640hp not 550hp, the 550 value comes from the older SF14 chasis and I dont wikipedia still hasnt uploaded that value.
@kbk239
@kbk239 Рік тому
No video for Ocon's defense against Hamilton in Japan?
@kpcart
@kpcart Рік тому
Both are insanly fast.
@Jesus1096GD
@Jesus1096GD Рік тому
SF did amazing tbh
@RaaniBR
@RaaniBR Рік тому
Super Formula is very fast, loved it
@logans3313
@logans3313 Рік тому
What is the meter on the SF side next to the throttle meter that says engine? Is that like SF's version of ERS? Im not familiar with SF at all
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius Рік тому
SF has an OTS system (similar to IndyCar's Push to Pass) where they use a bit more fuel to get more power rather than using DRS. (SF still do refueling) All driver has the same allocated number of times they can use that system (they have around 100s of use in total) and they can use that system freely on any part of the track. The system itself can be used for both attacking or defending so it brings another layer for strategy.
@menanistkg6722
@menanistkg6722 Рік тому
Just a tachometer
@TomMY-dA-K1nG
@TomMY-dA-K1nG Рік тому
With the ground effect, f1 got slower especially in the low speed corners. I think the diffrence will be alot bigger if compared to the 2021 cars
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm Рік тому
2022 cars are on average around 1-1.5 seconds slower than 2021 cars. it won’t surprise me if 2023 cars are around as fast as 2021.
@nicolaslabra2225
@nicolaslabra2225 Рік тому
Still the fastest F1 car ever is the mercedes w11, corners were a joke to that car, a true F1 legend
@reynaldiwidjaja277
@reynaldiwidjaja277 Рік тому
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm i dont think so unless the regs change to allow lower kerb weight.
@kioco_ab
@kioco_ab Рік тому
Such an interesant car the SuperFormula, clearly behind in terms of power only.
@TheAlixSH
@TheAlixSH Рік тому
What's the science in the SF tires? They look so stylish with the angular sides
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius Рік тому
Yokohama is the tire supplier for SF and they just use two sets of compound which are Soft & Hard alongside a Full Wet tire for obvious wet conditions.
@conrad9race1
@conrad9race1 Рік тому
imagine that lighter, smaller SF layout brought to F1 then added 1000hp f1 engine (idealy simpler and lighter than current ones), DRS, get free hand on aero development, pirelly slicks and best drivers. Probably would be as fast if not faster than current ones. We would got smaller nimbler cars and better racing
@jeffreylawler
@jeffreylawler Рік тому
it’s crazy how much slower f1 cars are this year due to weight and tires
@JotaV2502
@JotaV2502 Рік тому
Not that much. Only 1 second in fast tracks
@jeffreylawler
@jeffreylawler Рік тому
@@JotaV2502 you’re wrong. belgium 2020 was a 41.2. 2022 was a 44.7. huge difference
@JotaV2502
@JotaV2502 Рік тому
@@jeffreylawler I'm saying compared to 2021, and about Monza and Jeddah, I'm not wrong. The difference was around 1 second. Actually less than 1 second in Jeddah. 2022 cars can be faster than 2021 in high speed corners
@jeffreylawler
@jeffreylawler Рік тому
@@JotaV2502 it’s true for a few tracks that only have high speed corners. but for a majority of tracks this season they are much slower than the years before
@derriethelm1524
@derriethelm1524 Рік тому
@@jeffreylawler 43.7
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