This was an awesome breakdown

Who else thought arthur was just stomping on trash out of anger

He blew Murray’s mind with that joke

Honestly, I only hear people talk about the Murray scene. But the scene that got me the most was the reveal with Sophie. He breaks into her apartment, and you think "okay, they are together so maybe its not that creepy." and then she walks in and screams. She only knows him from the hallway earlier in the film. She doesn't even really know his name. IT then flashes to all the scenes we've seen her in, revealing that she wasn't there. Only Arthur.

"So how did the Joker get revenge?" "Super easy, barely an inconvenience." "Oh really?" "He just said 'You get what you f*cking deserve', did a back flip, snapped the bad guys neck and saved the day!"

When Arthur lost both his job and his mom, you could say he was "penniless"

"I used to think my life was a Cringe Compilation. But then I realized, it's a Try Not To Laugh"

I think the final scene was the biggest joke of all because earlier in the movie, the city had cut funding for the meds & social support he was receiving. He was playing by the rules, working, generally trying to do good but they cut him off. It wasn't until he snapped & started killing people & wreaking havoc on the city that they gave him back the meds and services again.

What I understood. Arthur apparently didn't have any history, his origin was a null. When his mental illness was spiralling down, he didn't have a family to look up to. He wanted to be a good, civilised person with reputation in the society. But the constant abuse broke his will power, pushed him towards a bipolar situation and ultimately made him choose the darker side. Like most serial killers, who find solace and pleasure by killing and mutilating humans. Arthur was also pushed into such a state. He lost all his empathy and felt good with killing. Awesome movie!

Remember Joker was so sad when he found out he wasn't really dating the girl because his mom did the same thing with Thomas Wayne

"Scene cuts to Arthur stomping on a body" I thought that was just him stomping on trash because he was angry.

Dang Ryan George is getting good at making it seem like there are two different people, almost seemed like Matpat was really there

I really want to see a batman movie set in this timeline, seeing how everything with the joker effects Bruce Wayne after he grows up would be amazing

*The Waynes walking out of a theater and turning down a dark alley* Me: Awww shit, here we go again

The most shocking information I learned while this movie: Joaquin Phoenix is younger than Jared Leto

I love how this movie kinda gave you the backstory of the joker while still keeping the question of "or is it?" The best answer is always a multiple choice

Mat is the only human being who can turn any video under 5 minutes into a 20 to 30 minute breakdown.

“Joker was an amazing film that I never want to see again” - My father

“So he had a pillow fight with his mother to thank her. Penny loses”

I kinda love the idea of pasting this concept onto the traditional portrayal of the joker. Like the one going toe to toe with batman. Thinking of him hallucinating a fantasy version of all of their interactions is so cool and disturbing. And Kinda explains his actions a little bit more then just, "he crazy". Like how he always treats batman like a friend hes just playing a game with, even though batman is so cold to him. If HE is hallucinating different reactions and words from batman, it kinda makes more sense.

Hands down, this joker movie is my favorite movie of all time. I have never seen such a masterpiece of a movie. The directing, the sounds, the lighting effects, the soundtracks and songs, the performance, the plot, the character development of arthur, how any person could relate to how arthur feels during the whole movie. It's just perfect movie with 0 flaws.

This movie felt like an entire season of a tv show

I don't think Arthur was stomping on a body. I think he was literally just stomping on a trash bag.

I have never seen any YT crossovers as friggin awesome as the two versions of Joker film theory/pitch meeting. You guys are the best. More please!

18:00 We don't know what the meds were. However, there are a number of anti-psychotics which lower your drive, ambition, etc. It's possible that being off the meds has deleted that filter and made him more assertive. It's also possible that 'standing up for himself' as he sees it when he kills the three Wayne Enterprise guys has made him far more confident.

I don’t think the scene with him laughing at the wrong beats of the standup comedians jokes was fake. I just think that scene was to show how different he is from everyone else

"I've never heard him cry, he was always such a happy boy." The haunting revelation that this is because his whole life, Arthur could only express his pain and sadness through laughter.

I agree with your overall thesis. However, I tend to think that Thomas Wayne may actually be his father. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that a rich and powerful man lock up a woman he had a child with in an insane asylum. Penny alludes to it when she says that she was forced to sign papers that it wasn’t true, and also the picture she had signed by a TW, presumable Thomas Wayne. Of course, she may have written it herself, but the possibility still exists that Wayne is actually Arthur’s father. We have no way of knowing, just like we don’t know how much of the film is actually real, which in my opinion makes it a brilliant movie. We don’t know if we’re seeing hallucinations or reality, and we don’t know who is lying and telling the truth. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if Wayne is actually his father but the mere possibility opens up a potential rivalry with Bruce that may play out in a future film if DC decides to extend Arthur’s universe.

I like how they handled the fantasy elements instead of them going "And it was all a dream" as words coming up on screen.

Having an imaginary girlfriend is such a relatable gamer thing

This movie was so sad . There was literally no happy parts and the only part that was happy was fake

6:08 "Shockingly terrible security." Yeah, you will find that was true for pretty much everywhere before 9/11. A crazy man broke into Buckingham palace and entered the Queen's bedroom not just once, but twice - which fans of The Crown are aware of. Similar stories of atrocious security can be heard in interviews with criminals who lived back in the 60's through the 90's. Don't forget that John F Kennedy was killed because he was riding around in a convertible. While not identical to Franz Ferdinand, the lesson had yet to be learned after 50 years. I know that those stories don't have to do with the security of a building, but overall security was often a facade for anyone of ill intent.

Maybe it’s just me but as soon as I saw Arthur let Gary go after killing Randall, a lightbulb went off in my head…”We just met the Penguin!” Arthur’s only friend happens to be a short, bald man with hands that looked oddly like flippers, has a nose like a beak and waddles when he walks (no offense to the actor Leigh Gill) but that is just too spot on to be a coincidence in my world. I’m hoping this plays out in the sequel.

"All it takes is just.. one.. bad.. day." -Joker

So the entirety of Joker is just Arthur Fleck having an argument in the shower with his shampoo bottles?

That entire intro is by far my favourite you've ever done. Love it. The humour is fantastic

OMG YES RYAN GEORGE!! Getting him on the channel was probably super easy, barely an inconvenience.

I think the final joke when he says "you wouldn't get it" is over thought too deeply. I think it has a more simple meaning. In the early stages of the movie when the news broadcasts the three men dying, Arthur laughs and his mother says "that's not funny." In the bathroom Thomas Wayne says "you think that's funny?" One of the three guys he killed says "what's so funny." The entire movie his humor (or condition) isn't funny to the rest of the world, so at the end he just came into terms that no one else will laugh being "You wouldn't get it" his final conclusion.

At least Murray was more open minded after the interview

I don't think this is a Joker origin story. I think it's the fantasy a troubled man uses to cope with his life by being this important figurehead and taking control of his life. The real Joker believes that everyone is just like him underneath their masks and I think this movie is playing with that idea. Could also be a commentary on the fans of the joker character that almost idolize him.

You’re awesome Mat and so is everyone on your team! I’m very grateful to have the opportunity to watch your content!!

We know the riots were real because batmans parents actually die

Can we just agree that the little person scene was one of the greatest scenes of dark comedy in the last few years? My GOD I was howling.

Fun fact: since the death of Bruce Waynes parents is cemented on one specific date (I believe it's June 8th) no matter what version of the story it is means that we know what night the late night show is on canonically!

Much like everytime we have seen the origins of the Joker, it is all subjective to his narrative, which is ever changing due to his psychosis. Fantastic breakdown Matpat!

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"

Murray: "You think that killing those guys is funny?" Joker: "I do. And I'm tired of pretending it's not."

My personal theory about this movie is that when we saw Arthur create the Joker persona, he created something bigger than himself. With the whole clown movement, it inspired mentally insane people in the future to take on the Joker identity later on when Bruce Wayne (shown as a kid in the movie) grows up and becomes Batman. Maybe he's the reason behind the 3 jokers

It has been a while since this video came out so this will probably be a mute point, but it’s fully possible that Arthur realizes he doesn’t know if any of it was real. The joke could be between the real him and the imagined him. If he really is Joker, it’s a funny idea that it was all in his head. If he is actually Arthur, it’s funny that he put himself, a relative nobody, as this famous person. The cut to Bruce with his killed parents is likely to say “How would he know this happened?”

“Joker is way too violent for younger viewers. May seem disturbing to watch if you are a child” Me: ....yeah... that what rated R means...

“What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a system that treats him like trash? You get what you deserve! “ Favorite line

The fact that he was no longer "medicated", is what allowed his behavior of the ending, the extreme manic episodes were the result of not being hampered by meds.

7:06 So, this explains why Joker's backstory is so complex. It's *literally* multiple choice.

Also I loved how even in a Joker orgin story Bruce's parents had to die again.

Joker movie wasn't the Joker's imagination. Well let me explain to ya'll. In the last scene of the movie, we saw the Joker laughing over a joke and then when the therapist asked him if he's gonna talk to her, the Joker replied "You wouldn't get it". The Joker was simply thinking about his past. Yep ladies and gentlemen, the Joker movie was real but it already happened and the Joker was simply thinking about his past all the time while sitting in the asylum in front of the therapist. This also explains why all the clocks were set at the same time. The clocks were set as if they were smiling. Actually Joker was laughing through those clocks while remembering his past. So the Joker movie was real and all the events of that movie actually happened. But we were watching the movie through the Joker's head as the Joker was simply remembering his past. This explains why "that's life" was playing in the background in that scene. Because everything that happened before that scene was simply the Joker's life. Also notice that Joker looked slightly more grizzled and older in that scene than in all the previous scenes. Indicating that all the previous scenes of the movie happened a long time ago. This theory also explains why there was a scene showing Thomas Wayne and his Wife dead. The Joker was simply laughing at Thomas because of how stupid Thomas was. Now this theory of mine has to be true, otherwise the whole plot of the movie doesn't make any sense. C'mon now, it's a movie about the Joker's life and not about the Joker's imagination. So I hope that I've finally given a perfect explanation to the ending of the movie.

Ryan George and MatPat do stuff so well together

“It takes a village to raise a child, a child that is not embraced by the village will burn it to the ground to feel its warmth”

"He becomes the leader of this public rebellion" "Good for him"

20:40 the perfect duo

Omg i love the collaboration!!! Honestly couldn't stop giggling at the beginning 😍perfect - barely an inconvenience, really👍

His delivery of the line "you get what you F*cking deserve!" Still gives me chills. The way he delivers most of his lines is fantastic.

**The Whole video** “Yes But actually no”

The visual storytelling in this film is fantastic. Arthur’s maladaptive day dreams can be picked out by the way the camera and lighting change. It’s warmer and clearer than reality. Limitless (the TV show) used similar cinematography to show when Brian was on NZT vs off NZT

This was such a great breakdown, almost seems super easy, and made with barely an inconvenience.

Ending explained: Arthur has a split personality and throughout the movie we are watching him "die" and Joker come to the forefront. Evidence in brief: Arthur is right handed, Joker is left handed. Arthur's notebook has two different writing styles. Arthur's body language is hunched and defeated, Joker's is flamboyant and makes full use of his body's motion. If you watch closely you can see the moments he shifts from one to the other. Most clearly in the scene after his delusion at the Pogo club. He's writing jokes at the table and shifts from Arthur -right-handed, frustrated, and light writing - to Joker - flamboyant, left-handed, and bold large writing. By the ending Joker is at the forefront and Arthur is gone. Thus the end scene in Arkham which is a delusion. Arkham looks different in this scene and Arthur shifts from laughing painfully to laughing because it's funny. His bloody footprints signify Arthur's death and Joker's "birth."

"Mind telling me your theory?" " *You wouldn't get it* "

I love this movie, and I've been putting this video off because I thought you'd ruin my own theories, but they're actually really similar. Thanks for the content.

That had me with the screen rant ending Card

Let’s face it, Joker is not a movie...it’s a piece of art. Genuinely loved every minute of it.

I need more villain movies - their characters are so much more interesting than heroes.

Ah the good ole, “it was all a dream” story. Classic

This was the crossover I didn’t know I needed. Bravo!! Both great channels crossing over.

I think the ending joke meaning was, Who’s the orphan now? Bruce loses his family, while the Joker finds his. Bruce loses everything, while Arthur gains everything he wants, admiration, mental clarity (well in his mind), and purpose.

Me: Walks out of cinema Matt: JOKER ENDING EXPLAINED

That whole intro is literally this channel. As long as yoy add in that one quote I will hold on to for the rest of my life 'How much time do you go?' Gold. Pure Gold

that line penny loses always gets me

I believe when he imitates killing himself before the show, he killed Arthur, so that what remains is Joker

Spoiler Warning* In the final scene, when he is getting ready to enter the stage, we can see that the guy in the left is clearly noticing how weird the Joker is acting. Maybe this part is real.

Awesome collab, it was very tight and the theory - super easy, barely an inconvenience

Im a bit late, maybe I watched and forgot. But I gotta say the first two minutes of this is the best thing I’ve ever seen on UKposts. Thank you Matt and Ryan!! You guys are the best. Please do more collabs 🙏

He didn't imagine being on the talk show as Joker and killing the host. That really happened for a couple of reasons: 1. When he took a seat, he said that it was exactly like he had imagined it. 2. During the dialogue itself the host was making fun of him and telling him that what he did was wrong. Up until that point all the other delusions / daydreams had him be at the top of the world. Everyone loved him. If that was just a delusion, the host would have praised him for killing all the people he killed. But that hadn't happen. Also, when he kissed the lady, she didn't look like she was all too much into it and was kinda flabbergasted, where where he kissed his imaginary love interest, she was totally into him.

He wasn’t fantasizing about killing his boss. He was just taking his anger out on the trash. You can hear the sound of it when he stomps.

Screen rant and game theory doing a collab is just my childhood wrapped in a youtube video

The Byronic hero element of Joker that I loved most was that he ultimately got what he had always wanted: love, acceptance and even adoration. When he’s just Arthur Fleck, the world is happening to him. But ultimately he becomes Joker, the character that is adored by the other clown mask wearing masses. He becomes the hero.

This whole movie can be summed up by Heath Ledger's Joker "Do I really look like a guy with a plan".

The reason he seems so confident later on the murray show is because hes no longer arthur fleck hes JOKER hes the person hes always wanted to be. Its not too hard to see.

I wasn't sure about seeing this movie when it came out. When I saw that it had the attention of the Academy Awards people, I was curious since they don't seem to like anything that normal people heard of. I freaking love this movie and think that Arthur was right when he wrote in his notebook: "The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't."

Matpat you had me rolling on the floor with "you will watch the whole video." That was great keep going man I think you are doing amazing things

"I'm waiting for a punchline" "There is no punchline"

Far as I’m concerned, everything after Sophie being revealed as fake is completely real.

This is the video that made me turn on the bell for notifications!! Loveee this breakdown completely.

Seeing a crossover between Film Theory and Pitch Meetings wasn’t something I knew I needed

At least Arthur accomplished his goal... he opened Murray's mind.

"Stomping on a body"? He was stomping a trash bag as far as I could tell.

I like both these channels and I’m glad they did a video together

A collab with Matpat and Producer Guy is tight!

"very aggressive pillow fight, penny loses" got me laughing like the joker

After watching the movie a second time, I noticed that when Sophie knocked on Arthur's door to ask him if he was stalking her, she says she thought he was gonna rob her apartment. Arthur responds by jokingly saying that he has a gun so he can drop by later. Sophie tells him "You're so funny Arthur". Notice that it was their second interaction, and on their first one Arthur didn't mention his name... That gives us a very subtle clue that it's all in Arthur's head...

Great collaboration!! I love both of you! ♥️

I absolutely love your collabs with Ryan George pls make more if possible