@@taralamlam1773 Why.....

hold up there's a fandom 😳

I wheezed a bit too hard at this

@@nelloed you have no Idea do you?

I say they should be responsible, they should be proud of showing people what a true disaster this film is

Yes

I've never seen them both in the same room. You recon they're the same person?

@@kaljackal9052 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@@kaljackal9052 DON'T! YOU'VE KILLED US ALL! NO ONE MAY LIVE TO TELL THE TALE

Godly Powers?🤔

Yeah same here

guess no one cares

Too bad no one cared a whole awful lot

My favourite quote is "you scared him off you dirty ho "

Mine is "Eat them in a box?"

Listen to Biggering

@@mannythemaniac1009 I already did

Of course it's the french

he's not french tho he wouldn't know?

DAWG ITS A FUN FACT WHY ARE PPL SO MAD 😰

overbearing moms are bad 👍

he just has mommy issues

Um idk about blaming his mother for everything he does when the Lorax was literally advising basically the entire movie that what he’s doing is bad, but otherwise yea.

he also commited charity fraud to get people to buy more!

"And the lawyers are denying" is a quote from hbcib, meaning that he def lied abt some things and got caught up in some law suits. But those voices were shut out with the help of his lawyers. In biggering, he said "who cares if some things are dying" meaning he knew the impact cutting down trees and releasing smog does. At the end of the day, the Once-ler knew what he was doing, and he could have put a stop to it, but he didn't.

@HypercarFest so does that means, that *WE* are the villains?

I don't see it as sad. Not everyone is willing to risk everything for just the greater good. They were comfortable with their lives and nobody was willing to lose that for something if it didn't affect their lives personally all that much. Not even Audrey took the risk. It's more sad nobody did anything, it took a young boy with a girl crush to finally do something about it. A boy who never seen a real tree like the previous generation who literally saw the destruction of the trees and it's wildlife. Just because a reason started off selfish doesn't matter. It's what it comes out at the end of it. I think Ted learned the importance and understood that it wasn't just about his crush on Audrey anymore. Yeah it's likely still a reason but nothing wrong with that. Even Oncler knew he was doing it for a girl because it's true, guys do crazy things for a girl but even still, it's not how it starts that matters but what it grows into and Oncler himself knew that himself. That's why he gave him the seed regardless him knowing he did it all for a girl. He needed to find someone and Ted was the only one to search for it. Despite the reasons that's all you really need so it can grow into more. (Which it does at the end). The last generation themselves created the destruction and up to that point did nothing to fix it because once O'Hare came they got comfortable again and forgot about trees and the world that was once really there. His focus at the end while planting the seed I took as he really found the importance. Even his speech he gave to the town told me he truly learned to care for the seed and trees and wanted to revive the world they destroyed. The seed in his heart wasn't the "purest" you could say but it grew into one. And that's definitely better than someone who might have pure reasons but is doing nothing about it. I did my best to not be so lengthy 😅

This movie is actually just about some simp who tries to get a plant for his girl

I think that’s cute tho he had motivation and learned about the benefits from it

@@joshuaoostenbrink1324 Yes lol-

the company or the area?

@@john.harrison both

Because of the fees i cant buy my cheese

I am the Lorax I speak for the trees. They say ouch.

@@LucyWest370 Wow

@@elt_rex1974 That isn't even related to this?

@@mrpayday7055 I think what theyre tryna say is by using Biggering that would make Onceler the actual bad guy which is bad for marketing since he is technically the storys main focus. How is it related to your comment is becuz you talked about how the song should have been Biggering to actually make Onceler look like a bad guy.

Wait wut-

@@taralamlam1961 Why have you been replying to everyone’s comments with a link to a video of how to convert PDF files to a Word document? What exactly does that have to do with the Lorax?

@@qwertyuio404 he's trying to get views by placing the link to his video into the comments. He most likely doesn't care about the video, but what do I know

I've seen worst.....

"This week", I've never heard a more apt way to describe the internet

My cousin was telling me about that song last night lol I had never heard of it before

YES YES YES I’ve been so obsessed with this song lately and dreaming about how cool the movie could have been if it had been darker

AW MAN I was sort of waiting for him to mention it.

I'm SO glad that someone mentioned it. I was thinking about it the entire video, it's honestly so amazing.

Yes, I was hoping he'd bring that up. I saw a comment regarding the decision to scrap the song, 'What's wrong Illumination? Hit too close to home, and I couldn't agree more

That was very much the intent rather than just have him be accountable for his actions. Because CEOs can't be responsible for their own actions despite doing everything they can to gain power and avoid accountability.

@@lProN00bl Yes for whatever reason the CEO's aren't to blame. When companies get lawsuits it goes against the company not the CEO's. (Some lawsuits do go against CEO's but not usually) The point is the company either wins or settles, and the people in charge just keep doing their thing, uninterrupted.

Of course, Wesley doesn't seem to be having any tumors or symptoms of cancer.

@@casual_ice_consumer4148 : 1 Cancer ain't the only problem that glowing could be connected to, nor is it always obvious (actually in a lot of cases the best time to treat cancer is when you can't tell you have it, because it might be too late by the time anyone realizes it's there). 2 The family literally has a doctor following them around.

wait does that mean he is going to be the grand grand grandfather of all for one and one for all?

@Johnny Tran I think it's pretty clear the glowing is a reference to radiation poisoning, look up "the radium girls" they're real life women who glowed from handling radiactive paints that their employers told them were safe. The glowed and were beautiful for it but died in several months after working for the company. The negative effects of radiation poisoning aren't immediately apparent

@@casual_ice_consumer4148 looks like radiation poisoning, which can lead to cancer but you probably won't live that long for that to really get you especially with how coated Wesley seemed to be lol I give him two weeks

Its just so simple. And as someone who likes Hanlon's razor, I'm gonna roll with it.

Everybody watching Dr. Doofenshmirtz be like:

America in a nutshell

I'm starting to feel like this is a good explanation for 2020 as well.

"your oner I'm just stupid"

yeah, he didnt exactly create thneedville, but he kept it going and started providing the air and stuff, yk?? so it still kinda counts

@@shiny_crystal It's never stated anywhere in the movie where the air just in the area is coming from. Kinda just felt written that way to suggest even if we ruin the environment somehow we will be fine and dandy. The problem is this doesn't happen in real life. People don't buy water due to placebo they buy it because tap water isn't safe to drink in some places.

hi seesaw

@Leo Roman Mabiasen I feel like it's more about the fact he's using them to silence anyone trying to learn more about the history of the city or even just trying to leave.

@Aun Hathiari yes

@@historynerd205 the problem of leave the city is because you DIES, if you get out, you gonna go back immediataly, because of the bad air, so you willl NEED to go back

well they act as if they where the gestapo

@Aun Hathiari yes

I actually have a theory that Onceler could've just made a device to hoist his family HIGHER so they can harvest MORE tufts without needing to cut down the tree since it wasn't the WOOD they wanted to begin with

@@inugeek411 probably but they’re too greedy and impatient hhh

@@soupy55 yeah, true

@@panigbrowardcollege they weren't using the wood! It was a waste to cut down the trees if they just needed the tufts! Planting more does nothing to solve that problem! It might even cause overforestation!

@@panigbrowardcollege I would assume they'd use brick and mortar or plaster and cement to build factories instead of wood since that stuff is more hardy. As for overforestation, you're suggesting messing with the ecosystem. Onceler didn't need to do all that. If he'd just created something to mass harvest tufts, he could've left the ecosystem alone, still mass produce the thneeds, BY HAND, and STILL keep the consumers happy...ish

lore axe

Stay strapped or get clapped- George Washington or something

No lorax, not the children!

Merica

Guns rock

Such an underrated poem...

ikr? he is just defending capitalism

Same

Our trees

Bruh didn’t no one care about trees but now with climate change we all of a sudden care about em

@@hello90976h a few people have always been concerned about the environment, but the vast majority do not care because they have their brain washed by the monetary system now the vast majority are concerned with the fear of dying in climatic disasters such as earthquakes, volcanoes and floods, and not with the environment. great.

His just glowing tho he looks fine and before you say Radiation, dude think first if there was Radiation in that pool shouldn't he be dead by now or dead *in* the pool where his swimming at. Im not being a trashbag or a jerk just saying bro :3

@@TheRoomba. Even so, how can glowing ever be a good sign.

@@arandominternetuser4507 i never said it was a good sign

Then again, the kid doesn’t seem to complain about glowing lol

@@shrimpo1530 yep

No this is ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nIGoaK1wjp2JxIU.html In all seriousness, thank you

Yeah, I was waiting for that to be thrown in as a joke at the very least...

Ye i agree, but does he show signs of health problems besides becoming green.

@@centricthemedic1517 Nice try, but I recognize that link from a mile away.

Yeah 😂 as toxic as the Tumblr fandom

I am not the only one who thought of this! Edit: I am Vietnamese

Lmao I thought the same

Why are the trees speaking this language? This is a theory we should get MatPat to manage.

Very insightful 😂

I don’t get it

I blame The Onclers family, because they convinced him to cut down the trees. He might of thought of cutting them down himself but...If his parents didn't come i feel like he would listen to the Lorax

@@cleoismee Hi Elizabeth

The One-ler's family wouldn't have let him anyway

*gasp* HE'S RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

DONT BLAME THE LORAX

got em

He's kinda hypocritical somehow.

Remy is a rat and kidnapped the villain and health inspector

@NickTara also remy is a rat in a RESTAURANT

I'm gonna write this here since.. no one will see it in the 20k comments. This movie closely resembles real life. Humans think the government are bad and that they never give us freedom yet they are really giving us all we need and want.. the trouble is humans don't have a limit they want and want and want until there are no resources left.. like trees for products like in the movie.. Are we being contained maybe are we being treated with a slap on the wrist if we do something we shouldn't maybe.. but in the end we have food, happiness and thriving civilisation.. humans just don't have a limit or respect current or future generations of living live even if it's as simple as a flower or a leaf.

i- i dont think you should phrase it that way

👀

And that’s a fact

No

@@iamaepicpersonlol557 yes

Yes

Oh my

I SAID NO

@hazarda nomo heh let's hope not

@@isaaclee2084 someone will ship matpat and onceler

@@terragolemenjoyer8359 working on it

@@soyhugo390 can yOU NOT? KTHXBAI *Shoves off cliff*

I may have the pinned comment but this comment deserves way more likes

It was a anti vax kid

@@basiccarinfo8532 "our son kinda glows"

The kids were glowing but that was the only thing. There was no sign of other side effects that could hurt them so...

Are you kidding me if I glowed as a child I wouldve been ecstatic!!!!

There’s only one glowing child but can we get a theory on why he glows

“Look bad” are you serious they think that spreading the message “the person who made it is at fault even though were the ones asking for more” is a good message instead of “we need to stop promoting bad companies cause then we won’t have a home” is embarrassing?!!

@@monagoat1503 You know what? Maybe we should have left the Lorax as a children’s book. It had a simple message that does apply to today, but isn’t necessarily going into all the little details that cause problems for everyone involved.

@@monagoat1503 I don’t understand what you mean

@@monagoat1503 "...and the PR people are lying!" How are consumers more responsible when they are far more ignorant than the business owners, and are just trying to get innovative and cheap versions of things they genuinely need, and have depended on for generations? People need shirts and hats and blankets and pillow cases. These things aren't excesses. That's why the product is called "the need". The Onceler is entirely at fault for not planting trees. It's not like consumers told him to cause extinction.

@@okayokay422 ​ I get what you’re saying, but the point was he had a smart idea, and made a stupid oopsie when not thinking about the longevity of his source for making the thneeds. And the thneed wasn’t necessarily a necessity, it was more like a multi-use convenience that became trendy (which trends irl are often known for people having the “need” for that thing). And since people liked it and wanted more, he made more, yk?

Same

@Fidel RMZ ?

Same

💀

@@abdullahemek2488 💀

Well, he never said the villains were right, just that they were unopposed by the masses

*God of Villain is right theories*

He may be the king of making ‘the villain is right’ theories, but he’s not wrong

@@PJOZeus you’re missing the word “be”

@@HoodiewearingOpp you saw nothing, I blame the heat (but thanks)

Same here lol

Me and my friend at school after the teacher said she was pregnant: (in private ofc)

@@Dumbaxxi wtaf…

@@haleyhershey7398 Lmafo

We did the dance too, we were in the bathroom when nobody was in there

You're right but If only they went with Biggering a better story would have been had.

That's the biggest issue. Illumination copped out, they made the Onceler as likeable and innocent seeming as possible as he commits atrocities. He never once truly looks around him at the damage he havocs and we can just blame his mother. It shows that he is unconscious of his actions to the most part except that he's killing a few trees. The movie doesn't hold him accountable of his actions as being self aware and propagates the idea that these Big Businesses are all innocent and when something goes wrong that they found out years ago but decided not to do anything to save money they have "plausible deniability " . It's not their fault, they had no idea that what they were doing was wrong.

Idk everyone has a will and the unwillingness to express that will is also what is wrong. They both are at fault or how the theory puts it everyone in the movie is at fault.

Consider checking out my reaction vid

@@frost9731 and here you are missing the point of the video, who's buying what they're selling? who's telling them to keep going, to keep cutting down trees and keep charging for air? blaming it all on the businesses does nothing. letting the businesses off the hook does nothing. how many people talking about climate change and big business do you think will call out China for their massive hand in it, heck Bernie, Mr "big business is bad" himself won't call them out because they're communist

Simple solution: blame everyone. Everyone is the problem. Companies for bad ethical practices and consumers for encouraging the companies. Everyone played a part in getting to this point, and it'll take everyone to get us out.

ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sGCUn6ymaZBmo4k.html

@@victoriae725 this is the most nuanced take on the video that I have seen. Plenty of people are trapped in loop due to cost and poverty, but plenty aren’t. Plenty just don’t know better or who choose not to know better. This far deep into pollution and environmental harm can only be undone by as many consumers and big companies as possible. We can’t just blame the company but also back and say “well it’s not the consumers fault because they were poor.” Of course some people can’t afford to do so at the moment, but there’s plenty you could do with spending a dollar like sharing the video and ideas behind it, use the influence you have in your community to boost environmentalism, etc. But if you want things to get better you need to change and BE better.

Imagine being so capitalistic that you claim global warming is just a communist hoax

@DUDAH based

oh minecraft

I always get 2...

I always get at least 4 apples

Bruh one time I got extremely lucky and got like 5 sapling from one tree but sadly that’s never happened again and it probably won’t

@@evilash5108 I think you will

Yeah it's a shame I found out that treasure of a song just yesterday. It would have been very impactful in the movie and showed that the corporates in real life aren't naïve (Hbcib) but are very much aware of the damage they cause to the environment but just doesn't care. but I guess they removed it because they wanted to not hurt the feelings of the higher ups. I get chills with the line "...who cares if some things are dying".

THE BIGGERINNNGGGGGG IS TRIGGERINGGGGGG MORE BIGGERIIINNGGGGG

Imma look this up now, thanks ❤️

And the end of the book has no good ending

Yea, it has a more impactfull meaning but I don't want to replace how bad can I be.

And he’s racing against other big names to get there, including William Hanna and Joseph Barbera, Walt Disney, and many more I don’t have the time to mention.

@@MovieFan1912 Tom Clancy too.

you should be more respectful i think

@@Ryan-pg1tw oh my god anyone from the future who sees my comment have a look at Ryan (the chap I’m replying to here - just in the case he changes his name). I’ve taken screenshots for my own recorded proof. All he does is reply to people on this channel telling them - in different ways so it’s not just copy and paste - to be more respectful. It’s so really fucking weird!

@@bossbaddiegames That is really weird -

Rat

I eat rats

Disgusting rats

I would like this comment but it has 69 likes

🤣🤣

correction: no

@@powerbankcinema9731 Correction: no One asked

@@Reactiontime6000 LOLL

@@Reactiontime6000 LOL

Mhm!

@@sekoseko2165 I am genuinely confused.

Lmao🤣

Well if you think about he's JUST glowing he's not in any pain or anything

Not this year at least

No it isnt

@@taralamlam1825 silence bot

@@plate_fox u know he ain't a bot cuz he said a fuding thing in the comment plus he just copy paste he ain't a bot

And he's entirely unharmed

nah thats his quirk, in 200 yrs society will have superheroes as far as the eye can go

The Unholy Smirk EVERYONE THE WEEBS ARE COMING PREPAREEEEEE!!!

Oh god, the oncelings are returning, MATPAT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

@@el9703 MATPAT WHY

@@el9703 XD

I can't belive there are onceler stans

Umm... guys? Is horizon dust meant to smell like daddy issues, teenage angst and burnt pens?

i watched the lorax 13 times its 69

Am i a joke to you*

Sorry, but the truth is, Matt gets things partly mind-numbingly wrong here. For once, he assumes that all Consumers naturally know what's best for them, which is just objectively wrong. Totally, totally wrong. And: Of course the consumers are solid part of the problem, but talking like the producers of these problems are by no means at fault, is laughably bad. He makes it clear he thinks they are no Villains, which is just again wrong. Matt obviously knows not much about Capitalism and gets a lot wrong. Logic-wise and story-wise. ...On a side note, he also overlooked a certain green-glowing boy, but whatever... But mostly his logic is just wrong.

@@slevinchannel7589 Yeah, my exact thoughts! You have a lot of guts to comment this on his channel. Sooner or later someone will attempt to prove you wrong.

@@slevinchannel7589 you’ve just been copying and pasting your comment into every new one. I don’t see you working hard to create videos explaining the science beneath games, movies, and more. Don’t be a critic without having any experience

@@proudmultistan5944 yeah

Anything that creates the monster that is the Oncelor fandom has something wrong with it

They were close to getting the point across, but they cut some songs that were better at getting the point across. Specifically this song: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/m6CqqaWjgqWWoo0.html

Technically the fans created the fandom

@@JiannaSandoval lol

@@CocatGaming I don't think using the song would stop the shippers though...

You=Cynical MattPat=Rad

This comment should have more likes and be liked by the creator.

@Ognen Mihajlovski That or a typo.

yes

@@linkmaster253 he's right tho

Glowing? Yes Harmed? Nope

@@kingdamazo7266 the kid is glowing- what do you mean he's not harmed? That has to have some sort of effect on him that we don't see in the movie

@@unholierthanthou7748 If they didn't animate it or mention it, it didn't happen

Toxic water

@@kingdamazo7266 True

All I can picture is Danny Devito saying "I'M THE T R A A A S H MAN" XD

@@we_never_met_never_will sorry about that

NOT IF I TAKE YOUR KNEECAPS FIRST! * Takes Kneecaps and runs *

@@wolfieedits539 Oh, now you've done it! Now you get to live through the horror of watching a tiny Eldrich being who speaks in Tree Tongues crawl after you in the dead of night like some kind of horror movie!

@@xChibiAstralxX YOU DONT HAVE KNEECAPS YOU CAN'T CATCH UP TO ME MWUAHAHAHA

True

Blame the suits at Illumination. They don't appreciate thoughtful art. They're too afraid to make themselves look bad! They're the ones who agreed to use THIS movie in distasteful ads.

what's biggering?

FOR REAL

@@shaansingh6048 biggering is an alternative song version of how bad can I be but someone thought it was too complicated or whatever for children so they switched it up with how bad can I be and I don't know if I should be happy or mad because I love both songs

Well with as much use as they were getting, being the tool for ANY TASK EVER, they probably just got old and wore out. And since all the trees were gone they couldn't replace them. And its been probably about 60 years since they were invented, 40 since they stopped being manufactured so thats plenty of time for them to just be used up

And where did all the money go?

Maybe ohare got rid of the thneeds to make sure no one cared about trees

@Nightcrawler bruh

I mean it’s called theedville

"The point got on a plane to Venice but you've somehow ended up in Alaska."

The point is that you tried asking a person out but that person became your worst enemy

oof

Gabriella Yaksich I thought they were hilarious!

Finally! Someone addresses "Biggering"!

@@nayellirodarte1065 wait wut I thought someone else by now would've mentioned it ONCE

agreed. I listened to it too and it makes us see a different Once-ler and it would keep the story AT the point. rn the songs are just vibes keeping the movie up

@@dumbledoratheexplorer1252 yeah I agree the songs makes him like a true villian and he actually wanting to cut down the trees

I wouldn’t exactly say it makes him a demon. I feel like the purpose of biggering was to show how someone with good intentions can become blinded by greed.

Picture? You mean thumbnail?

Yes

... Oh boy.. I honestly think the entire movie is different to that song..

Oof

Kaedead

Its wayyy better but I still love how bad can I be

same

Originally, Onceler made his family do this, plucking individual tufts out and leaving the rest of the tree alive. His family pressured him into cutting them down because otherwise they wouldn't approve of him.

This is just smart from a business perspective as well. You make things out of this resource that's limited and that can't be made otherwise? You preserve that resource as best you can. Sure, the Onceler made a lot of money all at once, but then couldn't make more or anything and became a recluse/hermit because he could do it for a good time, but not a long time. And heck, with all the time and money invested into the tree chopping machine, he could've spent that time designing and building a tree plucking machine that would only remove the top of the tree, allowing it to regrow and him to continue selling and manufacturing product. Basic stonks and kapitalism people.

You would think so, but I will point you toward a real life industry: fishing. It's incredibly easier for fishing boats to just catch everything and anything, and then throw out what doesn't interest them (usualy killing it in the process), than to carefuly taylor their nets to only catch the type of fish they want. That's exactly the same here. It's easier and cheaper to mow down the trees and filter the leaves, than to take a ladder and pick them up a few at a time.

Big corporate company Need I say more?

'Tis true though. If we taught our children to appreciate more well-made things we wouldn't be dragged into watching things like the Minions and handing over money to a company that never cares to make things of better quality.

DreamWorks stopped make faith based movies despite their resounding success. "The Prince of Egypt" for example. I don't know the numbers. What I DO know is the movie's legacy lives on despite the film being 20 years old. So is it the cinsumers fault or DreamWork's?

@@sunshinepurple1043 The Prince of Egypt is INCREDIBLE

@Kei Leng Maximus Jacob DONG stinky

@Kei Leng Maximus Jacob DONG its cool to serve those who r evil as minions do

I only recently found out about that song. It is an amazing song. If the Onceler actually acknowledged the damage he was doing, but got to carried away with his biggering, I feel like the film would have ended up much better than what was actually made, while adding much more to the Onceler’s character, but Illumination wouldn’t allow it because they claimed it was too dark for children.

@@qwertyuio404 no, they wont allow it because it paints them in a bad light. HBCIB paints the Onceler as someone who got carried awat through peer pressure not realizing the damage he does. Biggering has him being completelyxaware of it and just ignoring the damag

@@SLKibara I know that. That’s why I said that they “claimed” that was the case

@@SLKibara , _Illumination is already painting themselves in a bad light even without the song there. They just show how they are there for the money and to teach kids that big corporations are good because they used to be The Onceler and that things are perfectly fine in the world they are destroying._

Yes.

That's Exactly What He just needed but Since He Want's To Be More Powerful He cutted them down extra Resource

I love it when stuff like that happens

I got an add for smart water right after he compared the bottled air to bottled water

To be fair, depending on where you live an Air Purifier actually can be good for you. A heavily industrialized area would benefit from it.

忍者 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jplqaK2niItix6c.html

SAME!

@ apple releasing those $550 headphones

Uhm i buy this for my friend and we watch it then we loose money to that dumb movie

LMAOO

@@gucciroseii3517 or the magnetic iPhone 11

A brick with a logo on it