"The old cars had a bug where they couldn't receive software updates over the air. So unfortunately they're rolling out the .0 update in stages by sending technicians around to cars to update them. But that's fixed with 2.0" Source: The Fisker employee in the parking lot while dropping off the car

_"Fisker had to send a technician out to each and every one of these cars to manually..."_ Wow. That must've taken the guy all week!

Hold on officer, let me reach under my seat to retrieve my paperwork because this vehicle doesn’t have a glovebox.

"Sell a broken product and fix it later ... maybe" Cars have reached videogame levels

It's a shame that this company died due to bad software. Hopefully other companies will take notice of how important the UI/UX is for _all_ modern technologies, and not just adopt the "We'll fix it later" mentality; the first impression is the *ONLY* impression.

Fisker took a risk and sent MK to review the car again. I applaud them for that

The day this video came out, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened a third investigation against Fisker’s Ocean SUV for doors that won’t open.

I'm a heartbroken Fisker Ocean Extreme owner and I agree with almost everything in this review. I also mostly agree with the previous one and I really don't want to. Also if Marques had spent more time with the car he would have found so many more UX issues. 1. My Ocean Extreme did receive its 2.0 Update over the air. It required me to manually accept it and consciously unplug and lock the vehicle while it updated. Note: A Fisker engineer did come to look at it after the update for other issues I'd reported. IIRC there was also conversation about updating the key fob... 2. You can manually push the button on the left side of the steering wheel to turn the parking brake off even if your seatbelt is not on ⚠ - If you are stopped at a light and you shift too much in your seat, the car shifts into P and unlocks the doors. ⚠ - If you open the driver side door it shifts into park and unlock the other doors. 3. Bluetooth/Audio still has reliability bugs. 4. I still lose 4G connection for multiple hours in a downtown area. When I do, both clocks on the vehicle's screen get out of sync and are both wrong (minutes are always accurate though.🤔) ⚠ - What happens to the 4G connection if Fisker goes out of business? 5. It now supports multiple profiles but the profiles in the car don't seem to store much besides A/C settings 😞 6. Spending engineering resources on a screen that only rotates when I'm in park and on fancy things like California mode was not the best move considering the state of the core experiences in the car's software. 7. I did get locked in the car multiple times as did my wife. Hasn't happened since 2.0 update I've said it before, the single most concerning thing for me was the promise of a "2.0" update to fix all the problems. Who even cares about version numbers today? How many folks know what version number of Chrome they are running? Nobody even notices when Chrome updates. IMHO celebrating numeric releases of software today is an anti-pattern. Continuous delivery, feature-flighting, A/B experimentation, these are not things you can easily build in after the fact. Shipping without all of them was a mistake and has impacted their engineering agility. I'm a software guy at heart so I'm biased but I think one of the best moves Fisker could make would be to create a non-profit foundation to own and drive forward their vehicle OS stack by making it open source and leveraging the community of enthusiasts. Take 24 vehicles and give 2 a month to community voted top contributors over the next year. This would also bolster confidence for new buyers in the event of dissolution. If the Ocean could become an autonomous vehicle dev kit for companies like Wayve and it's competitors perhaps they could even move more inventory.

'California Mode' has worked since day 1 on my 2006 Saab 9-3. This is not even a new feature. Since I'm still driving my 2006 Saab and have over 214k miles it feels like I now have this new California Mode feature. Yay!

Great review! Decided to gamble a little and bought 1500 shares of Fisker. Am now a proud owner of $30 worth of Fisker stocks!

I like the 10 second silence at the start. "Are we doing this? ... Yep , I guess we're doing this."

It's unfortunate that they couldn't get over the financial hurdle of a startup, b/c the car actually looks really friggin good.

I feel so bad for the employees of this company like the engineers who actually made a some good aspects of the car but cant see their work come to fruition

The company I work for makes hinges. When the owner started it, they messed up the design of a hinge, which made the cabinet door not close to the end. A disaster given that the company was selling pretty much internationally. The owner decided to own the mistake and sent out technicians to fix and replace all the hinges, almost bankrupting the company in the process. But it passed. And because of that experience, he vowed to focus on quality and design, aiming to be the best. Years later, the company is now the leading cabinet hardware and hinge manufacturer worldwide, known for its quality! Good for Fisker for owning it and trying. Hoping it works out for them.

I test drove an Ocean in the UK a couple of weeks ago, I really like the car and this was after your original review. I didn’t experience the issues highlighted, but whilst the sales guy was demonstrating the swivel screen, it crashed and got stuck in the super useful “diagonal blank screen” mode. They had to switch the car off then on again to reset, which it did. The main thing I didn’t like was the jittery ride which doesn’t expire confidence as the car doesn’t feel at all planted.

00:12 Fisker Ocean 2.0 improves software 01:57 Original Fisker Ocean had issues with software updates 03:47 Fisker Ocean 2.0 features improved design and functionality 05:32 Fisker Ocean 2.0 has boot-up delay and seatbelt dependency for driving 07:20 Solar roof energy generation and driving experience improvements 09:14 Issues with regen and drive modes need improvement. 11:00 Fisker Ocean 2.0 software issues need improvement 12:48 Real improvements seen in the Fisker Ocean 2.0 Thanks Markes. Just keep on doing what you do best than others: reviewing with objectivity not being subjective. Your honest are realistic approach on any product is our treasure.

Fisker might be going out of business? I guess that's fisker's karma

Maybe because I'm used to having older cars... the thought of buying a car and it not being fully correct and ready and waiting for an update to solve said shortcomings is an absurd thought. Even the worst automakers still at least finished their cars to a point where they were usable by the time the customer bought it? Weird times.

Thanks Marques for doing another review of the Ocean w/ OceanOS 2.0. It’s amazing that you re-reviewed a vehicle again and it’s not even long term. Thanks for doing that. BTW, always love your videos. I own an Ocean One and managed to get 2.0 OTA without any technician visit and I’d have to say I must be one of the lucky ones as mine has dramatically improved. Other than the random every three days getting the charger port door is open, I’m loving the ride. Very disappointed on the outcome of the company but I’d say there’s so much potential given that other car companies took years to get to a better place. With that said, I’d say you were very fair in your second assessment. Props.

It’s a shame because I actually love the way it looks and a lot of the features that are unique and make it stand out.

Unfortunately fisker seems to be another cautionary tale. They really did SO much right here. Solid looks, materials, and build quality. Unfortunately they really tried to over-deliver on the tech. If they had stopped at good looks and build quality, used android auto and CarPlay, and kept it affordable, they would have had a genuinely compelling product. But instead they messed with solar panels, custom software, and new safety features. It’s honestly such a shame and is a direct result of salespeople getting their way instead of engineers.

Fisker has got big balls for sending another review unit. Kudos to them. Continuous improvement is the soul of any organisation.

Marques with the ultimate "tell me without telling me" opening. 🤣

December 2011, Fisker Automotive recalled the first 239 Karmas delivered to the U.S. due to a risk of battery fire caused by coolant leak. Of the 239 cars, less than fifty had been delivered to customers, the rest were in dealerships. In the report filed by Fisker Automotive with the NHTSA, the carmaker said some hose clamps were not properly positioned, which could allow a coolant leak and an electrical short could possibly occur if coolant enters the battery compartment, causing a thermal event within the battery, including a possible fire. In May 2012 a Fisker Karma was involved in a home fire that also burnt two other cars in Fort Bend County, Texas. The chief fire investigator said the Karma was the origin of the fire that spread to the house, but the exact cause is still unknown

"Is it still the worst car I've ever reviewed? Yes." Finish him! Fatality!!

I've had my Ocean One since December. It came with software ver 1.10, which got updated to 1.11 a few weeks later and then 2.0 was pushed last week. Both updates were OTA and didn't require any tech to visit/install. Is the software complete? No. Is it better than the older version? Absolutely. The car drives and handles really well and it shows in the build quality. As a One owner, I am realistic about the murky future of this company and have mentally prepared myself for this car possibly turning into an expensive brick at some point in the future. All I can hope is that they are around long enough to push the next few set of updates to make this a more "complete" car. My biggest concern is with lack of support if the company goes under and there are no service or repair options in case of a fender-bender or a cracked windshield. So while I love my Ocean and think it could become a great car someday if the company survives long enough, I can't recommend anyone to buy this car until the company's future is clearer.

THANK YOU. As customers we shouldn’t accept the “we will fix it later” argument. You took my money now. Give me a complete working product NOW.

Nice review! Thank you for your transparency and not caving to conform to criticism

The auto e-brake not disengaging when the seatbelt isn't connected is a feature. You can still manually disengage the e-brake, but it doesn't do it automatically if you're not wearing your seltbelt. It's a thing in my Toyota as well

In fairness to Fisker, the parking brake feature is more common than you'd think. From personal experience, Toyotas and Hyundais with automatic parking brakes will not disengage them automatically without your seat belt being on, as is the case with other cars I would imagine. On those models, you can override it by manually pushing the parking brake button. I do not know if Fisker included such a button.

This makes me so happy I still have my 2012 Scion. Such a simple car, almost no bells and whistles, and it just works.

There are a lot of cars out there that won't let you drive without the seat belt on. Some unwise people buy fake buckles for that matter. This car looks nice, would love to drive it sometime, but I don't think there will be many in my city.

I work in an automotive company, and work with people that are testing the car's software. The issues you are experiencing are issues that are present on the earliest softwares of the system, and in my company we don't release the car or deploy the software until the issues are corrected or are harmless enough for the custom not to be bothered. What Fisker has done would be absolutely unacceptable for my company's standard, and should be unacceptable in general for the automotive industry

For those who are willing to roll the dice, Fisker cut the price on all models of the Ocean as of March 29 Model - Old MSRP - New MSRP - Difference Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000 Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000 Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000

In all genuinity, i would love to own this car with all its flaws. lovely color, plush soft interior, looks so good. Software issues sure can be sorted out in coming months.

I'm glad to see you are alive and not in any casts after hearing the call from the Senior Manager regarding you last review.

Ive had my Fisker Ocean One since Oct 2023. White on white like the one in this video. I love mine! I've never had issues with California mode or windows not working. The only issues ive had are the key fob not working on the 1st try and my vent clicks which is getting replaced soon. Yeah, software is a bit laggy sometimes, but i prefer driving this over my Lexus RX 450h FSport or either of my GT/Roush Mustangs. Btw, you can take the parking brake off by pushing the ((P)) button on the dash without your seatbelt on. It just beeps like any other car without your seatbelt.

I received my 2.0 OS via an OTA (over the air) update. I even asked a service tech before if they were planning to send someone over but they mentioned there was no need since it was being rolled out OTA. There’s a new setting to toggle through for the boot up 24hr, 10 minutes, etc. to get around the seatbelt issue, you’ll have to press on the Parking button on the left near the light switches.

Once, back in the 80’s, my dad (a black man) opted to go to jail during a traffic stop rather than reach under his seat where he’d temporarily stashed his wallet/ID…of all the decisions he’d made that night, it was prolly the best one. I pray nobody decides to use the under-seat storage for standard glove-compartment fare…hopefully that half-visor is stronger than it looks and can pick up some of the slack for handling routine traffic stops 🤷🏻‍♀️

I can relate to the long bootup -- I put a wireless carplay adapter in my B9 A4 -- and it sometimes takes about a minute to connect. But there's also an occasional Audi MMI bug where the car gets confused after ignition and that sometimes means the rear view camera doesn't come on when you put it in reverse. And a pre-existing carplay bug where it just won't play a track/station/song -- across all apps -- I think it's related to Apple's "now playing" feature, but I've put up with it for years. However, sometimes the "fix" is just to change channel or track -- but sometimes you have to do an MMI full reset -- so it takes a minute too.

Crazy times we live in, I thought I escaped day 1 updates when I stopped gaming. But now we have the automotive industry using the "it'll be in an update" excuse.

Saying he’d take the Vinfast VF8 over the Ocean is a HUGE blow to Fisker OOOPH

Yes, I have received software update over the air. No drama, just done what they said they would. The software update has made numerous improvements, and I look forward to more software update. Fair play to you for taking another look and correcting the things you missed first time around👏👏

Best part of the solar roof - IMO - is that if it beats self-discharge of batteries, it's a good thing.

I saw a blue one of these on a flatbed driving down the freeway the other day. It was gorgeous!

Honey stop what you are doing. Mkbhd dropped 2.0 fisker video

The Ioniq 5 does the same thing with the seatbelt and not being able to drive the car, though it's seemingly at random. Also, my 2011 Toyota Prius disengaged the regenerative braking whenever you went over a bump when braking.

My 2010 VW Polo has "California Mode"... Most cars open all windows when you hold down the unlock button on the fob.

i really want this car to be good, I genuinely think the design is sick

I got the 2.0 software update over the air without any issues. I got it yesterday and feels so much better.

The Fisker Ocean 1.0 was the first video of yours I viewed. I'm happy to see a 2.0 video.

GM also makes you buckle up before it lets you enter drive but I believe it is a feature that can be disabled.

Glad you at least gave it another shot. Glad to see they fixed a bunch of stuff. Hope they survive and make it better.

Seatbelt safety seems like a feature that should be called out . The software is holding it back. Hardware the car does look pretty good. I think the follow up was a good idea. They should have maybe waited a little longer to release the car. Remember Top Gear and the original Tesla Roadster.

I work in Software (ERP systems, CRM, Finance and Supply Chain Management) for mid to enterprise-sized companies, and the most IMPORTANT thing for every one is this: Trust. 1. Trust that you know what you're doing, 2. Trust that you'll be working side by side with that company during discover, implementation and 3. Trust that you'll be around to stave off problems, and solve them as they occur, down the line, for the years to come. This uncertainty is a death knoll for the brand Fisker, and as it's happend before, I was not surprised that it is recurring.

The Mercedes Sprinter and Ram Promaster I have driven will not automatically disengage the parking brake if the seatbelt is unbuckled. It’s a safety feature.

It was the same story with Henrik Fiskers last car project, the Fisker Karma. The car was beautiful, but unreliable. And the company closed down within a year. When i saw the news about the Fisker Ocean I was very tempted to order one, because the price here in Denmark was really attractive. But knowing that Henrik Fisker was the man behind it, I didnt do it. The Ocean was delayed again and again, but then they proudly annonced that they had delivered it to their first customer. It turned out that their first "customer" was actually a co-founder of Fisker. And regular customers had to wait a few months further... Even though Henrik is from Denmark, just like me, and he has designed nice cars for BMW, Ford, and Aston Martin. I will never trust a thing that man is behind

I should mention that the 2.0 software does not require a technician to go out to you unless you're in a car that has specific issues related to OTA. Successful updates with 2.0 happen OTA. My car updated over the air. Key fob works every time for me, which it did not use to. I guess Fisker's work needs to focus on the experience differences between their cars. Overall a good car.

Seatbelt and handbrake work together on Mazda CX-30 also. So it`s a feature. Handbrake will automatically disengage only if you have seatbelt on. Without seatbelt you need to manually disengage.

The best Tech reviewer, ver transparent, straightforward.

The thing you said in the end is the most important. If the company is going to cease to exist, nothing else matters. Who in their right mind would spend $50K+ on a car from a company that won’t be around to support it?

Okay, firstly. I'm very happy they were willing to work with you again to show the issues were mostly resolved via an update. But as I sat here watching, it dawned on me; how far off in the future would the AF channel becomes a patch notes review channel for these EVs? Because thats what they're basically making you do here. Isn't that what beta testing teams are for? Why must a well known car enthusiast on YT be subjected to public scrutiny regarding stock prices and other bogus claims(ugh, that got me so crossed). Why are they having these issues in the first place? Hey we fixed the walking up to the door bug... ready to review patch notes 2.1? You get my point, right?

FWIW, our Jeep Grand Cherokee also won’t take the parking brake off automatically without seatbelt on. Granted it works if we manually disengage. But I found that very annoying, too.

Company woes aside, how would you review this strictly as a product? Personally, I find it quite nice looking. Even the interior. That color changing dial is an interesting touch, but is it really distracting? My eyes are mostly on the road when driving...

I love my Fisker Ocean Ultra, I’ve had minimal issues (small minor annoyances and alerts) in almost 3 months of ownership. I’ve been on full 2.0 over a month. I really hope fisker stays in business or a large manufacturer buys the company after BK and continues to rollout the software and service and warranty these beautiful vehicles. Thx for the video review redo MK, but u continue to get details wrong tho. I received 1.11 and 2.0 via OTA. So OTA is possible but there were about 500 oceans that needed to have 2.0 manually installed by a tech.

I just sold mine last Thursday. I really liked driving it and it was well built, but didn’t want to stick around with the uncertainty. And by uncertainty i mean Fisker throwing a Hail Mary trying to get investors despite not being able to provide trustworthy financials because they literally lost $ 150M of customer payments. THAT uncertainty. I was never able to get updates but I had a hardware issue that caused other oddities. Those issues seemed unique from other owners. It was eventually fixed in late Feb (I got it in Oct) What pissed me off was the complete runaround. Everyone said it was escalated in my weekly calls to the company, trying hard not to sound scripted. Not once was I able to talk to anyone at a higher level. The ones who provided a number kept leaving. Maybe a coincidence, but it wasn’t until I started speaking up on socials did they come out. So that’s similar to what was said about coming out to update. I signed up knowing there were risks and growing pains, but didn’t sign up for hospice care. Hoping the best for all those who stuck it out, some good people in the FB groups.

At least Fisker don't say that they're selling fully self-driving cars. Credit where credit's due. ;-) As to OTA (over the air software updates), I'm getting mine OTG (on the ground) in a couple of weeks, even though it was supposed to update OTA, and I have a VW ID5.

@autofocus our EV (MG ZS EV) does the seat belt thing and is totally a feature, many don't like i think its good and stops people driving without their seat belt on, yeah for moving car on driveway or carparks its a bit annoying but really not an issue in the long term. Great channel BTW love the content, thanks

I hope Fisker can pull out of this! quality comp is what this industry needs! It looks decent! As far as MKBHD concern, could be a software toggle. Such a half baked review and I hate it for Fisker..

The newer Suburbans will also not engage Drive unless you buckle up, so I would say, yes, it is a "feature"

It be like this sometimes, even my 2024 Model X as 'perfect' as it is, isn't perfect :) as a dev i do still appreciate how far we've come when it comes to tech. Nothing is perfect, thanks for the review!

Hi Marques, is there any possibility of seeing xiomi SU7 review on autofocus channel in near future?😅

I guess I was one of the lucky ones who got the 2.0 update via OTC and without a Tech visit. I had my Ocean for 3 months now and I can agree with most of the reviews specifically about the key fob and lack of support and service. My car was delivered dirty and scratched and I am still waiting for them to fix the scratches. It is a fun, solid car to drive now that many of the software bugs are fixed but not all. If (big if) they survive, I also would not recommend it until they develop a solid service and support system for car owners.

The Ultra version doesn't have the taco tray - so more room in the console - and doesn't have the roof solar panels. I like the glass roof better. Thanks for getting Fisker's attention - I hope they are able to fix everything even if in Chapter 11.

We have four Ocean's on Munich plates sitting for weeks seemingly abandoned on one spot in the forest, in the outskirts of Berlin. Every time I drive by, I wonder what happened to them.

Regarding the "feature" of not being able to drive away without the seat belt, my new Chevy Silverado has something similar. It will not allow you to shift into Drive until the seat belt is fastened. However, this applies only after the vehicle is first started. For example, if you've been driving, stop, put the truck into park, get out leaving the truck running, you can then get back in and drive away without fastening the seat belt. Luckily this feature can be disabled in the options.

I had never a problem or a feeling like described by Marques while breaking in almost 2.000 km

Great update for sure. Thanks for covering it

Thanks for the updated video! What kind of microphone do you use for these videos?

Where do you get your info from? I’ve had my Ocean since Oct 4 and it’s been updated to 1.10, 1.11, and 2.0 all were OTA. THERE WAS NEVER A TIME WHEN A TECH NEEDED TO COME AND INSTALL SOFTWARE…NEVER!

The fact that Henrik Fisker added a "taco tray" as an actual feature, I should have known that this car was doomed from the start.

I still hope Fisker can make it. The Ocean seems like a good starting point.

Great video! I think the brake hold thing is overblown, my car has the feature but I never have it on. I don't think it's good to train people to just tap the brake and expect it stay stopped. It's one of those features that once your car has it you get muscle memory and expect it in every car you drive. Like if I drive our old Accord, I put it reverse and stare at the dash waiting for the backup camera. Or I was visiting family and drove their car and it didn't have adaptive cruise so I was like "why isn't this car slowing down". Backup cameras and adaptive cruise serve a safety purpose, auto hold is just encouraging lazy drivers that don't want to hold the brake pedal down. Also: most GMs have 'Buckle to Start'

The seatbelt + starting situation is also present on my old passat. The car will not disengage the hand brake automatically if the seat belt is off. I have to manually disable hand brake then go in case i just want to move the car without using the seat belt, for ex i want to move my car in my garage. Looks like a safety feature to me.

I wonder if they could/would open course the software before going out of business. If they did, one could imagine a storied second life where the community, giddy at the prospect, quickly fixes all the issues and then some and the car becomes a rare, first of it's kind hit. One can dream. I'm sure Fisker owners looking at resale value can dream as well.

I'm not sure about the hangup with the seatbelt feature. There are so many people who drive or ride without seatbelts, which increases the fatality rate not for just you but for other passengers. Is it annoying? probably, but for me, literally every time I sit in a car I'd have to stop myself from putting on the seatbelt since it's so automatic.

Officer: You changed lanes without indicating. Me: Well no officer I was not disobeying the rules of the road, you see my blinkers are only coming in the next DLC.

The regen turning off after a bump also happened in my BMW i3. Very scary coming up to other cars.

Mr. Fisker, a 2.0 Ocean review has hit the MKBHD channel

I received my 2.0 software OTA on Easter Sunday (part I) and Tuesday overnight (part II). Both installed without incident. End result: My key fob is much improved, but not perfect. I now have Hill hold and it works awesome. I'm very happy. I hope they survive....

Marcus, do you have on your schedule to review the Electric MINI SE? (The Mini Cooper company) Frank

What an awesome follow up to the original review of this vehicle. Absolutely here for the shade MKBHD is throwing right back at this company.

I’m a Fisker Ocean One owner and have had a phenomenal car. Yes the key fob was an issue but there’s been an update to that too that your test vehicle must not have had. I also have already gotten 2.0 over the air with zero problems.

If Fisker declares bankruptcy, it does not mean it will not exist. This is an important distinction.

The flip of the screen is actually pretty cool

I'm not sure I want a car to block driving if the seatbelt is not being used not because I don't want to use it but what if some sensor breaks and the car stops detecting the belt being plugged thus preventing the user from moving?

Received 2.0 about a month ago, thank you very much. Only very early models needed a tech for software updates (majority of Oceans receive OTA updates just fine). I really don’t think you gave the good attributes enough credit (best in class range, experiencing California mode on a nice day, driving quality/ performance). From strictly a product perspective, it’s above average

Ocean One owner here, and received my 2.0 update OTA, not sure what the "send someone to every car" comment was about. All in all its treated me VERY well. I am aware of the wild inconstancies of experience so far and they def need to tighten that up before its too late (if not already). This 2.0 doesnt fix all, but it proves that things are fixable if the company can hang around long enough to do so.

there have been some great price cuts on the car stock thats avaialble. I guess it cant be like pebble with opensource software to continue to support the project but what a cool idea, there must be alot of safety concerns, but if we can think it, we can do it!

Where is that technician now who called you a "mouthpiece". Informative update review and shows you and the channel are above others.