Chara is really rolling the dice by putting this up days before a patch - but tbh we may not get stuff to fix it anyway but would be pretty funny if it is immediately fixed in some of the ways he talks about Also giving an extra shot for directs seems a bit extreme considering getting a direct is good already. Maybe a max cap of 1 extra shot because otherwise that could get out of hand?

I'm just imagining if they added this reworked Trizooka to Salmon Run and you could get shots back from splatting boss salmonids. That'd be so fun and satisfying

fans: _really creative idea on how to rework the special so its not completely impossible to play against_ nintendo, probably: i think we should just keep it how it is 😊

1:41 I like the fnaf jumpscare sound lol

I agree to all of the changes, but I would also reduce it's damage to 180 so it can't kill trough spawn armor anymore because I think nothing should ever be able to do that (we could also make the spawn armor work like ink armor from Splatoon 2 so you can only take 80 damage trough it, that also fixes the problem)

Special id love to see a video on is super chump personally, it feels like there is a idea there but is just a bit weak

1:41 - Nice Fnaf jumpscare lol, it does really feel like that when you're locking in and zooka kills you out of nowhere... 💀

Video 55 of commenting on Chara videos till brella is good

I remember you telling me about this concept and this came out amazing! Glad I was able to contribute a Zooka clip (the one with the smaller spiral)! :D

Doesn’t talk about trizooka one-shotting through respawn armor

I like how Chara's 7 Zooka problems are the same colors as the 7 chaos emeralds. 3:12 Also those clips were YIKES.

Splatoon 3's devs not nerfing Trizooka or Pencil yet makes way more sense after the Worlds promo video, seeing as they STILL somehow think BP is meta (they are working off of almost year-old footage for all of their buffs and nerfs)

glad someone talked about how flukey the special feels pressing the right stick and then either killing 2 people in .1 seconds or doing nothing does not feel satisfying imo and every "zooka changes" thing i've ever seen doesn't address that also the hex-zooka is terrifying

One idea I had for Trizooka is it's interaction with SpPU. Instead of increasing it's duration, it reduces the arc of the shots, trading the ability to fire over obstacles for more precision.

RITZNBLITZ MENTIONED!! 6:52

You know what was consistent had a skill based hitbox and thus fixes 2 if these issues? The original inkzooka

I honestly love the reworks and ideas, most of the time when I use trizooka, I feel like I’m aiming blindly. The guide and the impact shots just sound so much better and it gives the trizooka more counter play.

6:52 ayo? Ritznblitz mentioned??

I’m honestly excited to see how Chara fixes Ink Vac, it’s honestly my favorite special because of the counter attack potential. That and getting 2 triple kills (with one having a follow up Charger shot for a team wipe) is really satisfying.

Remember the times when Trizooka was considered weak due to being inconsistant?

i love that detail of it's direct dealing 220 dmg when the original zooka was a 220p special

I would love it if nintendo just hired some comp players to give advice for this kinda thing, chara out of anyone has some amazing ideas for how to fix these things

I really like the idea of tightening the bullets' total hitbox, and in general I think focusing the changes on making the special less spammy is a good take. I'm really unsure about giving it extra shots in any capacity though, that seems like it would bring as much feel-bad as it would feel-good. (for one it would be more taxing to count the shots if you have to pay attention to how your ally went down, getting sniped by a shot you didn't realize they had doesn't seem like it'd feel great. Another is getting a shot refresh just as the duration ends.) But overall, really inspiring video to watch, there's so much innovation that could be had.

Can’t wait for the devs to completely ignore this video (and everyone else’s complaints) and nerf Stamp while giving Zooka another buff lol

The extra shot on direct would be very fun. If it would happen I would love to hear a very satisfying sound effect like the Double Donk sound effect for the loose cannon in TF2.

I like the new weaknesses this special has in this rework! It's so often that it feels really obnoxious to fight against this special, and any time I get to take advantage of its weaknesses, it feels very interesting. It's the kind of thing where just about every other special really makes you rethink how you approach an opponent, but Trizooka is like "well let's just hope this one goes ok"

one more buff we should totally give it is to use it like in splatoon 1 where we could super jump while using it, hitting clips like that is so satisfying

2:34 I think this is more of a problem with the Maps. A lot of those one ways drops and abysmal cover makes it hard to retreat .once you get hit by one outside hit you don’t really have a lot of options to move out of way. Many times I’ll see the second shot coming and I just can’t go anywhere bc there’s little cover or I can’t move away as easily. Personally I’d slow down the fire a tiny bit . So my idea is Nerf-Fire rate a tiny bit. Nerf -S1 start up time Nerf -Brief indicator of impact (Or louder activation sound) Buff- Land a direct hit on the first shot and ONLY the first shot you get an extra shot . Buff-Use sub weapons Buff -Use trizooka while super jumping

logi you absolutely cooked with the editing in this video!

I'm surprised that you didn't mention that the Trizooka with Object Shredder will break - and kill through - the respawn armor in a singular shot. I thought more people would find that problematic.

Tightening the shot spread should also mean that you manage to curve a bullet around cover it‘s more likely since the weapon was aimed at and edge or corner of the cover. Which at high level could be a nice little bit of skill expression and adds a little bit of a which side should I aim for mindgame

ok but the editing of this video goes fucking crazy

This is probably one of the most interesting but also insane reworks I've seen on this channel. Giving shots back on it's on to me just sounds absolutely bonkers to think about.

that would be a very fun change to zooka, reminds me of the 'one more' system in persona

I was today years old when I learned that each of the swirling blobs in a Trizooka shot was a separate projectile

I think this rework is remarkably elegant. It makes trizooka stronger in the way that it feels like the devs were trying to make it powerful Namely 1. Directs 2. Collateral directs The reason this is the way I think the devs intended it to be is because design wise this special’s primary strength is its ability to wipe teams from across the map. That is is integral to the special’s design, however with patches and with the current state it’s in it has become more about this generalist special that can wipe teams rather than it’s specialist capabilities to wipe teams without being very mobile or being very effective at managing closer targets. This rework makes that niche shine and it’s great.

I would love to see a video like this on Ink Vac

Oh my god wow i didnt expect my clip to actually be used in a prochara video :0

I think a change that could make it feel a lot more fair without being nearly as drastic as this is to simply make the shot one big hitbox instead of three smaller ones (without changing how the projectile visually looks). Thay way it would at least be more consistent feeling and wouldn't be able to get, or miss, kills for seemingly no reason. That plus more startup and either a radius or indirect damage nerf would put it in a good spot I think

Big fan of the idea of dual mechanics for specials. Too many splatoon specials feel one note and the direct shot refill is a great upgrade in that direction, Ink vac comes close with its protection and retaliation, but its one of the few to implement the idea in part. hopefully we see more diverse special usage in the future! (I know super chump could use something in this area for sure...)

The direct hits reloading ammo sounds great for a single player campaign, like a skill tree upgrade.

A neat buff i would give it is the ability to tighten the spread by holding the fire button this goes up to the point where it feels like your firing one large bullet of course your *really* vurnable if you go for this and you cant charge hold it

The swirling around opponents explanation explains a lot.

a nerf i would do is less of a actual nerf and more so a visual thing: reduce the screenshake when a a shot hits the ground near you. i get its meant to showcase its impact but it can be really disorienting sometimes and i think reducing it somehow would help alot!

I'm not a game designer or good player, but I think an interesting change could be making the shots weaker and have them start more spread out before converging over distance. making the weapon less effective as a panic button and weaker against enemies behind cover. and placing it more as tool for dealing with ranged enemies

We desperately also need a Video like this for Ink Vac. I like the Idea of a defensive Weapon that works on Range and allows Movement, but I feel like that almost never works effectively. Rarely I've had Success using it as a Way to destroy the Barrier in Rainmaker or to escort fellow Players in that Mode or Clam Blitz, but given how many Backliners and Long Range Weapons have that Sub (Jet Squelcher, 96 Gallon, Charger, Ballpoint) you hardly ever get in a Situation where you escort others in close Proximity while it doesn't really work to protect yourself either (you die before you equip the Special even after activating it, you die before you are able to shoot your Shot, you get killed by a frontal Attack despite the Special being activated because the Opponent in close Proximity shoots below the Cone in which the Ink is sucked in, you are easily outmaneuvered in open Terrain due to the Vac slowing you down, yet it is of little Use when you are cornered too and when you are facing more than one Opponent you are effed anyways etc. pp.). An Idea of mine I could see working is to abandon the Opinion of the long-range Shot in Favour of a close to mid Range Attack that activates automatically (maybe something akin to basicly a larger Blaster Explosion or multiple smaller explosive Shots being fired off in a Fan-Shape). The Idea is that Enemies could be sure that your Shot - if charged - will go off in any Case and quickly at that, making it more attraktive for them to run instead of lurking around to kill you when you'll have to fire and aim your Shot. It would basicly a Panic-Button Special that doesn't aim to kill, but still helps the Player by forcing Enemies into a certain Distance. But it could also kill if someone is foolish enough to stay in its Range or in Synergy with some other Specials like Killer Wail 5.1 or Tenta Missiles that could cause an Opponent to move into its Range or make him unable to flee.

I had an idea of making the meter work like how Tenta missiles work. A 6 second cool down before you can build another. You basically are locked out of recharging special for a few seconds after spaming shots, and Cooler no longer saves your special further reducing out put. A narrowing spiral for the shots was also a good idea I thought of a while back. Slightly nerf the start up too. And I feel like Zooka is a bit more fair to face and use. My balancing idea was to reduce random deaths, give more reaction time, and reduce the special out put which has been my three problems with it.

The Twitter example is silly. A charger would have killed him in the exact same way. The zooka user said that before that clip, the guy had tried rushing in that exact same way multiple times. Acting in a predictable manner can get you killed in any shooter. I'm not saying the special doesn't need changes, but I am saying that the argument of "there's no counterplay" is flawed.

I think showing th location where the sots are gonna land is a bit too much, however, when you activate your special, a special sound could be heard by the ennemy team informing them that a trizooka has been used

really good editing

I just want to yay that i love your videos, they're just so fun to watch 👍

For me some of this feels needlessly complicated. Instead of being forced to carry the zooka after all 3 shots, giving it swim glow and the ability to use subs I'd just make it unable to swim.

Ah, I was going to suggest the one shot detonating with a big AOE. Refunding ammo on one shot is a great idea.

How I understand trizooka is that the biggest problems it has is no startup and the damage being too high on the aoe. This seems to only need two changes in my mind - increased startup - a weaker outside hit box (like EVERY OTHER EXPLOSION IN THE GAME)

1:20 yo is that a Zorconic reference?

I think adding a start lag + a bit more lag between shots would solve a lot of issues. Also remove the ability of holding the button to fire the 3 shots would help a lot

I thought it was going to be reef slider ;-:

agree with a few of these. biggest change it looks like needed is fixing glitches. how many of those shots went through whatever cover instead of into them? understand the spiral shot but needs to be better on actual misses.

While I tend to agree with Chara most of thr time thisnis something I never really agree on. Specials are supposed to be these big and powerful weapons you pull out and so they should be generally really strong and potential tide turners if used right. It's why so many disliked platoon 2 a lot bc the specials were all so limp and niche in what they were capable of. Usually requiring multiple specials to be used at once unless it was one of the few that could be effective by itself. This being said I would like it to be more consistent snd maybe have the splash damage slightly reduced, although I feel explosions have really restrictive and at times ineffective hitboxs...zooka I would feel more fine with being a little more precision based even if thr explosion size and visuals suggests it shoukd do way more. Is quite strong already so I coukd live with that.

Omg imagine Chara talking about Reworks for stuff like Ink armor and Sting Ray, that would be interesting

The getting extra shots on direct seems scary to me, but if you can see where the shots are going beforehand then yeah I guess that'll be pretty fair

I feel like if the tri-zooka was replaced with the regular inkzooka from Splatoon 1, with some tweaks, and no one would have a problem with it. Chara's 7 issues (mostly) fixed with just having the inkzooka in S3: 1. The 3 spiraling shots doesn't exist with the regular inkzooka meaning there's no broken hitboxes 2. Again, no broken hitboxes, no problem (unless i'm missing something). 3. I'm not really sure about the start-up time of inkzooka in S1 so idk about this one. 4. Inkzooka (as far as i'm aware) doesn't have an explosion so, no explosion, no broken 2-shot hitbox 5. In S1, when you shoot the inkzooka, it just has creates a line from where it got shot from, and if you got hit, tough luck. 6. Inkzooka was made to spam so this issue isn't fixed sadly. 7. I don't think there was even a slowdown when swimming with inkzooka but Nintendo can tweak that.

When I started playing this game, I thought the marker for where you could shoot your trizooka was very inconsistent. I don’t mind it too much, but it could definitely change.

In addition to the changes suggested, what if instead of 3 spiraling bullets, you have 1 larger one? The larger bullet would paint the same amount and have the same hitbox size, but then you eliminate the randomness of directs not hitting and the ability of bullets to curve around cover. Plus, one larger bullet is thematically more accurate for a bazooka

I think it should have a start up sound effect. Something letting others know it was just popped out. Can't tell you how many times I was blind sided by multiple users

Bro that REALLLLLY long startup is absolutely broken, there's no way this guy infront of me can just pop zooka right away and obliterate m-

the old inkzooka was better, ngl tornado's make everything better

I think it would be funny if instead of there being a light you were a big lump of ink while swimming because the trizooka is huge.

I love your reworks for the special!! However, there are a few super specific things relating to brellas that I would have loved to see- -If any of the trizooka shots hit a brella shield, all of the shots will be destroyed and no damage will be dealt to the user. Sometimes when fighting against the special, especially when using a splat brella can feel dumb because you lose your brella AND you get hit for 53 damage :/ -Trizooka shot indirects will only slightly damage splat brella and tenta brella shields To the best of my knowledge, you can hit an indirect on the brella shield with a trizooka and still break the entire thing which feels super silly and I think it shouldn’t be that way -It will take two direct shots from a trizooka to break a tenta brella’s shield I don’t know it kind of feels wrong to me that a single shot will break the entire shield when it’s supposed to be the beefiest one in the game Anyways those are some of my hopes, (can you tell I play brellas?) I just hope Nintendo changes the special at all 😭

Prob still be nice to add some additional lag between shots (aka fire rate nerf) for additional counterplay

I would also give Zooka the ability to superjump, it could do it in s1, might as well add it to s3.

I agree with pretty much every except the reloading mechanic, I feel that it might be really unhealthy but I’m unsure

I just need it to not come out frame 1, literally every other special has a window on startup where you're vulnerable, but a zooka can just panic pop it and shoot you before you can even register it's been activated

I really like these ideas

Maybe put a limit on extra shots because in some positions that could be pretty hard orherwise Maybe a max. of 2 extra shots if you get a direct kill

Just in case, I'd add a cap to the amount of shots it can get from hitting directs. Like, maybe at 5 or 6. Otherwise zooka spam could get a hit ridiculous.

the movement penalty hardly feels like a drawback considering you can’t hold onto it for very long anyways

Maybe some sort of vague indicator but not a full on laser I don’t think. Other than that the rework seems lovely.

Trizooka is just the sharingan special, fuckin broken 😭💀

I dunno how I feel about the idea of extra shots. I find the idea of rewarding for direct hits great but for those with exceptional aim this can lead to new problems. If the player has to have the Zooka in it's hand until after cooldown and all you mentioned I would rather have it like this: A splat grants you an additional projectile for your 4th shot. Depending if you are splatting 1 to 3 enemies your 4th shot will either have 1, 2 or 3 of a normal Trizooka shot projectiles. So in the end you either get nothing if you don't splat, or a weakened 4th shot or a normal one.

If Tri-Zooker get a shot for a direct, then I want a some ink back for Chargers and Stringer hitting with a 100+ damage shot.

I think a cool gimmick to add would be recoil damage from the heavy shots, and then having more startup lag ofc i think that would fix the biggest issue with it while Also giving it a silly waekness

This sounds like it would be great and not extremely broken

The additional shot adds more problems. Youd need to add it for all the specials too then. Something similar. Everything else was pretty giod though.

4:44 I saw that Omega clip

Honestly the kill streak type idea is really cool if not….ambitious to say the least.

tbh, i would have made the zooka shots similar to the rm shots because those are able ro be reacted to

You sure came up with a lot of ideas on fixing specials. In fact, Nintendo could you hire you to help make Splatoon 4.

What about charging it like the rainmaker? I really like the laser idea, but if you also had to hold it to charge for full-range+damage, it would limit its effectiveness in close combat while increasing its duration between across the map shots. It makes you more vulnerable while you’re charging it making rushing the user a risk/reward play. Sure, they could spam to go back to their main weapon, but then the shots would barely travel and be weaker. Or they could spend more of their duration charging to full power and trying to hit around cover.

I would love to see these changes for Trizooka. It would make the special much more fun to use and less annoying to play against.

Hiya. Although I haven't played Splatoon 3, I can commentate about Trizooka because if its velocity isn't already slow by Splatoon 3's own standards, I feel that that would be a more inventive weakness to add to it. Low projectile velocity damages the projectile's effective range as a result of being easier to react to and everything. It shows in Kid Icarus Uprising with both the Club and Cannon families where that's a common (if not 100% consistent) drawback to make up for the key points of their Shots. Cannons are still longer range because of explosions, but lower velocity allows reaction time. I have more experience with Club Shots being more utility-based to actually make use of the lower velocity, but the Cannons can use some of the key points I've come up with to help push on their own strengths, and Cannons aren't shut out of using the Spin Shot technique to working effectiveness with the Dash Shots' velocity fixing effort. I bring this up because you call out about Trizooka having needlessly short windup. Getting back into comparison with KIU, Cannons have their Neutral and Side Shots come out on frame 14, their Forward Shot on frame 12, and their Back Shot on frame 6. These are actually late Shot releases, except for the Back Shot being the earliest of any family's. What I'm wanting to bring up at any rate is that balancing involving windup lengthening VS velocity decreasing. I'm obviously on the side of the latter. If I'm judging that Twitter example correctly, that out-of-nowhere hit wouldn't necessarily care about windup lengthening, because the shooter doesn't have to be close to begin with, which windup lengthening would be less effective against than it would be with close range capability, and more importantly, their location would still likely be masked. A projectile velocity nerf would encourage the shooter to be closer to guarantee a hit, at which point they'd be easier to find, dodge around, AND hit all at once. Of course, this wouldn't necessarily fix every issue, since you do bring up busted hitboxes for one, but I feel that velocity nerfing would invite innovation in this case at the very least.

I think a nerf to a lot of specials is that there should be a hard duration nerf similar to missles and rain where even if you die the special still drains so we dont have people abusing cooler to get 2 shots off, die and have half a meter left for more shots.

honestly, okay firstly ik I don't comment a lot on these but this video really highlighted some problems that I didn't even notice are with zooka, and the changes I think are honestly fair! I really like the decreased in spacing for the shots so they can reward actually hitting the one shot, something I personally like to go for anyway so having THAT be more consistent. Which is what I've BEEN wanting, would be nice cause holy fuck the amount of times I see ppl either phase or just miss by the shots, causes me actual agony.

Big bubbler needs a rework next

Really love the ideas but i think i would cap the amount of times u can gain an extra shot so in total you caan only have 5-6 because zooka can go through spawn armor Edit: nevermind i noticed that time the special is active caps it naturally already if you don't give binus time for a direct

Yo chara, I've got a question. So I'm doing my senior project on how pencil is a huge problem right now, and I'm wondering if I can use your sendouQ usage rates chart in my project. Just trying to do the right thing and get permission first

nintendo needs to straight up hire you to do reworks, this is tremendously better than what we have

I like everything except for being stuck in trizooka even if you fire all the shots, and the shots reloading on hit. Those two things feel like they'd just wind up more annoying than anything else.

I actually really like the Trizooka. Yeah it can be annoying when an opponent splats you when you don’t see it coming soon enough, but when you do it to them, it’s really satisfying!

Duration buff- I think the current duration is fine, but going along with your direct-reload buff, give it an additional 2 seconds for every direct you hit.