All of the Olympic bronze and silver medals for wrestling should be scattered in the Pacific Ocean by now.

@@etagged haha underrated comment here

deeper then that, having all those beasts floating between the 3 weight classes means they all had to be that much better. They all have world, and olympics medals, and from a fan stand points its been great to watch them leave college and compete at freestyle internationally.

Well said, Id say from an outsider they are all just incredible at what they do and thats what drives the competition. Iron sharpens iron brotha

@@shad3128 for sure. especially since Dake is at 74 now haha. I still like him at 79 though. just not an Olympic class.

That's why a world title doesn't mean crap compared to an Olympic gold. These guys tet weight classes and techniques at the worlds but always bering their A game to the Olympics!

@@quincyspielberger4366 Oh my goodness. Whatever dude. I can tell you have not competed at a high level. With that argument, you could argue that weight classes don't matter at all, and the only title that really counts is heavyweight then🙄

Mine was named Jeff Reese. 1995 New York state champion at 132 lbs our senior year. He went on a full scholarship to wrestle for the university of Michigan. He died from cutting too much weight his sophomore year in 1997. That is when the weights changed after his death because his parents lobbied across the country and had meetings with the NCAA. He was the third wrestler to die that year from weight cuts.

Coupled with the NCAA title rivalry.

Dakes a 3x world champ now

@@joshuaroun14 updated it

Don’t compare anime to wrestling

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The more work you put into your wrestling the better it will make you. Gets overlooked alot In grappling.

Dake had talked about something happening behind the scenes. He clearly didn't look like himself. Let's not forget he is a 2x World Champion and since that loss to the Belarusian in the quarters, he went to tech his next opponent and beat Chamizo 5-0 who lost a 9-7 match to the Belarusian. Dake will bounce back for that top spot on the podium in a month at the World Championships

@Alex Torres right! In fact didn’t dake lose 7 straight to Burroughs to?

@@arn6376 5 straight and took 2 more straight loses. But Dake beat Burroughs two straight at the Olympic Trials. They have wrestled each other 10 times, Burroughs winning 7 and Dake winning 3

It was always so weird to see Taylor wrestle so much better than Dake and then lose to him. Anyone that ever wrestled struggled to figure out how it kept happening.

@@jesvinmathew5103 something was def up with Dake at the Olympics. The second he was on tv for his first match his face looked all clammy and eyes looked glazed. I literally remarked to my wife that something looks wrong. Kind of the way a drug addict looks when they're going through withdrawal. I say that not to imply that's what was happening to Kyle, but it was extremely obvious that something bad was going on behind the scenes with him. I hope we find out someday.

Taken him out? He got confident for sure. Probably didn’t train enough. Looked out of shape. I’m curious how world championships will look

@@glossjunkies6026 yeah, they both beat burroughs this year. Taylor is to big and is more technical than in years past and Dake has evolved his training to beat Burroughs.

@@glossjunkies6026 Burroughs has to move up now, so I imagine he will easily beat derringer and whatever contender to take the US spot.

@@Tdinh79 you’re not wrong. But I don’t think he’s out. He’s only 3 years older. But he does make great commentary

@@glossjunkies6026 no, I dont think he is "out" as far as wrestling. He is the 2nd best relative to his weight class next to Dake. As far as the worlds, I think it's a 50/50 at this point. He has the athleticism and skill still, but his hunger isnt there, imo. This hunger is a whole another level of determination that he and all of the wrestlers have when they start out. Its difficult to maintain in wrestling or any sport for a long period of time when you sit on the top.

I’d switch Cael with DT. He’s accomplished more internationally

@@PRAISEdaLloyd That thought crossed my mind. But I tried to stick with who I think would actually be the best and not just those who have the best credentials. I almost put Steveson because I think if he stuck with it he would keep winning and dominating over Bruce Baumgartner, but then I thought Nah I think Bruce could beat him still. I think Cael definitely would have kept winning if he wouldn't have stopped early, but he just got burned out.

It's not healthy to compare different people of different generations. It's imaginary. Each generation have their own struggles. To me, Dave Shultz although has less medals than Burroughs, is a better wrestler relative to his generation. Budgets are different. Information. Coaching level, etc. It's like comparing a flower that gets all the sunshine and water vs one that had little.

@@fahadkelantan haha It's not healthy if you take it seriously. That is basically the same with anything. Never take yourself too seriously.

@@7mikepd We see it in all sports. Now after the GOAT acronym became mainstream, people are always comparing people of various generations and various weight classes to each other. And typically there is almost always a recency bias. If we wanna talk about all time wrestlers with a telephone booth time machine: Abe Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt both did Catch Wrestling. I wanna see Lincoln & Roosevelt both Skuraba style jump over Hitler and Stalin then neck-cranking them in a tag team battle.

I mean in highschool and youth it was all Taylor

True and Taylor and Steveson won Gold literally at the end of time but Petriavishili and Yazdanacharati still lost. It doesnt matter whether you get pinned in 5 seconds or los 4-3 as time expires, you lost. Im just saying. Its a different story of who is better, but rivalry no.

Semantic debate about the meaning of the word “rivalry”. Their careers run parallel and have at intervals rivaled each other in quality. Dake was the slightly better college wrestler and that was the primary point of convergence. If two doctors have a career rivalry it doesn’t mean they have to compete directly for everything. Who’s doing better.

@@Michael-ii9fs Owned what young wrestling. Im not talking about whether or not he is a great wrestler of course he is. 4x state champ, 2x ncaa champ, cadet junior champ, 2017 world champ, 2021 olympic gold medal. I am saying there is not a rivalry between him and kyle dake because kyle has not lost to him since 2013. A rivalry cannot be one sided. Plus they dont wrestle in the same weight class anymore and probably never will unless its a catch weight like 80kg.

74kg is by far more talented. 86kg has 2 guys

@@martinezjames83 Gold is gold. Dake doesn't have a gold medal and might never have one. The magic man has one and will possibly get another. No one will remember the level of competition, just if you win or not.

@@wildman7902 idk bout that. Internet keeps a record of all matches. So its easier to disect the talent. 86kg is weak without jden. Who would maul DT

@@martinezjames83 don't be mad. It's just facts. It burns badly in Dake's soul knowing that David has a gold medal and he doesn't. I think it's hilarious. Him and Snyder both choked at Tokyo. Burroughs would have been better but Dake wrestled "better" at the trials.

Something happened to Dake at the Olympics that was non wrestling related. He dominated at the world's a few months ago. It'll come out eventually, but I think it was something with his weight cut

"Peaked in college..." What in the actual fck are you talking about?🤣 Try keeping up with the sport. He's literally a three-time World Champion and Olympic Bronze Medalist for God sake. One year he didn't let up a point the entire World Championships🤣. Didn't lose a match for 3.5 years😂. Was behind maybe the best wrestler in US history for years or who knows how many more titles he would have. He lost a match to a better wrestler on that day, it happens. Get a grip, buddy🤡🤣

@@jjmarcos just as long as it isn't foul play(i.e. Xlax slipped into his McDouble, etc) I am fine with it.

@@mattf9076 He gave an interview a few months back where he hinted about what was wrong but didnt give all the details because he said they're being saved for his documentary or something. The gist I got is that Kyle relied on a lot of weird 'health supplements" and stuff like that to aid in his weight cuts. Nothing crazy or illegal, just really weird shit (which if you're a dake fan you already knew this lol). During covid they instituted very intense restrictions about what was able to be brought across the border, and it sounds like he was without all that stuff for the first time in a while, so it mentally/physically threw him off. He said something like "looking back with what I know now, I would have fought those restrictions from day one hard, rather than wait and hope it was all going to work out"

Lebron james could pin him