📉 Is This Europe's Biggest Fall From Grace?

15 днів тому

Forget Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord. The true pioneers of Dutch football are HVV Den Haag.
I visited their stadium in the Hague to learn more about the former Dutch champions.
#football #soccer #europe

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@DenUitvreter 14 днів тому

The Dutch couldn''t even make a celebratory photo of the championship winning team without bicycles in the background.

@ohjajohh 3 дні тому

I noticed that too :) Even in 1906 they already loved their bicycles

@DenUitvreter 3 дні тому

@@ohjajohh How else would they get to club?

@robbrown1790 13 днів тому

I'm a Scot living in the Netherlands for 40yrs and I've never heard of this team and its history 😮so thanks and I will visit them soon 😊

@martenkats6915 14 днів тому

Great video mate. Being Dutch and living in Scotland following non-league here (ST holder at Lochee United), I'm mainly subscribed to your channel for Scottish lower/non-league content. But having grown up not far from The Hague it was great to see this too.

@grahamstewart615 12 днів тому

@martenkars6915 tweet tweet fur the Lochee Fleet 😂

@boabm6522 11 днів тому

Good old Lochee Utd.

@f1sker999 2 дні тому

video hit me hard just because i live in the hague

@lucybartley5063 14 днів тому

The older chap (Frank) speaks remarkably good English, he puts many indigenous Brits to shame.

@CodyGissel 11 днів тому

I’m an Aussie who knows multiple Dutch people and I can say from my own experiences that they speak better English than many people do in the English speaking world

@normanpearson8753 10 днів тому

They all put us to shame , Dutch ,Germans , Scandis.....not so much Latin based languages . Tell us why , experts , please .

@emdiar6588 9 днів тому

The Netherlands holds the record for having the most English speakers per capita of any country that does not have English as the standard language. I've lived there for 33 years (English expat) and I can't remember ever meeting a Dutch person who doesn't speak it. I speak fluent Dutch, but many expats don't even bother learning it. In fact, it can be hard to learn Dutch because as soon as they hear a foreign accent, they automatically switch to English. ps. Hup AZ Alkmaar, hup!!

@emdiar6588 9 днів тому

@@normanpearson8753 I'll give it a go. Not saying I'm an "expert" but I did study languages and I'm a bit of a polyglot. Western popular culture, both in music and film, is predominantly in English. This is the direct result of the British Empire running the world for a couple of centuries, and especially being the founding source for American culture. Europeans are surrounded by English and hear it every day on TV, radio and cinema. In the UK, turn on the TV and you only ever hear English, so you don't become familiar with the sound of any other language. English is a Germanic language has more in common with languages spoken in Protestant Northern European countries. Also, UK culture is much more Germanic than it is Mediterranean. I'm English but live in the Netherlands and speak Dutch every day. In the Netherlands they have always broadcast British children's TV shows with Dutch subtitles. In Germany, they have the same shows, but dubbed into German. This is why Dutch kids learn English much quicker than German kids. The farther south you go in Europe, the less likely you are to come across English in your day-to-day life. The Romance languages (the actual name for "Latin based" languages) and people, are resistant to Anglicisation in a way that their Northern neighbours are not. The Dutch love putting English words in a sentence, whereas in France, they actually legislate AGAINST the use of English in the news, if there is an equivalent French word already. That hasn't stopped French people from looking forward to "Le weekend", and young French people hardly ever use "la fin de semaine" when planning a Friday night out. Oddly, in French speaking Canada, they do still prefer la fin de semaine, but that is probably because they are fighting to keep French alive in a country in which they are the minority. Hope that helped.

@normanpearson8753 9 днів тому

@@emdiar6588 Very well put , thanks from me,,,,and tout le monde else !

@bartdeleeuw1696 13 днів тому

I used to play for HVV’s local rivals (Graaf Willem VAC) but it’s so cool to see them here on this channel

@jeffrey1269 8 днів тому

Then you also know VUC? That's where i played. Also a great history.

@bartdeleeuw1696 6 днів тому

@@jeffrey1269 ja man, mooie oude tribune daar ook 👌🏻

@Cooooolin 2 години тому

Faka Bart, dat is lang geleden!

@robindaleman6389 14 днів тому

Nice video Sam! Great to see you going to my city Den Haag! I am an ADO Den Haag supporter and there is a lot of football history in The Hague but sadly all the succes is more than 40 years ago. There are also 3 more amateur clubs in The Hague with big history. Those are HBS(3 league titles, 2 cups and 5 lost cup finals), their neighbours Quick(1 league title and 4 cups) and VUC(1 cup and 1 lost final).

@willbee6785 14 днів тому

Brilliant. The committee gentleman (name?) since 1963; wow! Respect to him. Phil came across really well and all the best to the club’s future.

@jimbobjamber9276 14 днів тому

Hi Sam, I was lucky enough to work in the Netherlands in the mid 00s. What a place! Your brilliant vlog was so Dutch, it brought back loads of great Duch memories!! Cheers!

@Thegreatmightypoo699 14 днів тому

Hvv Den haag truly have had a fall from grace 😢

@malcolmjcullen 14 днів тому

Den Haag is the name of the city, HVV Den Haag is only one of the teams from there. The current "top" team in the city is ADO Den Haag.

@Thegreatmightypoo699 14 днів тому

@@malcolmjcullen sorry I change it

@DenUitvreter 14 днів тому

Professional footbal was outlawed by the KNVB (FA) until 1954. The Netherlands might sometimes look pretty similar to England, we have a huge tradition and history of associations and clubs run by volunteers just for fun or the general bettering of things, including sports clubs. "Paid footbal" as would be the direct translation was long seen as corrupting the beautiful game (in hindsight, were they wrong?) and players who went to play in Italy or Spain for money have been suspended by the KNVB for the national team. It was actually a charity game organized by Dutch professionals playing in other countries to raise money for the victims of the North Sea Flood of 1935 that triggered the change. People recognized that the level of the pro's was much higher and to keep up internationally it had to change. Clubs were already paying players secretely and even doing transfers though. Great video, seems like a really lovely club and I didn't know the story at all. So just an addition because you seemed to assume that still being amateurs was an open matter to market forces and entreprise, it wasn't at all.

@kylecorman7859 14 днів тому

Great to see your presentation on such a historic team. Lots of folks seem to think of sports only in terms of the here and now. Forgetting the history takes a lot away from the game. Great work.

@Fontanelletje 14 днів тому

Great video man. This is what I look for in football channels. Only missing why they are where the are now

@rudibakker2102 13 днів тому

Love vids like this! I am from the Netherlands and I didn’t even know that HVV won so many league titles in the past! Amazing vid mate!

@johnbshannon 14 днів тому

yet another fascinating video Sam, well done

@billalexander2971 11 днів тому

Well done! A great video. I do enjoy your club interviews and the histories of these wonderful clubs..

@user-be4fb5nz5y 14 днів тому

What a fantastic video Sam , was very interesting as I had never heard of them keep up the great work

@WhiteHartDane 13 днів тому

Great video as always, and yet another source of footballing insight. I had never heard of HVV before.

@RandomHuman91 14 днів тому

I love Dutch football so to see you make a video of Den Haag is amazing :)

@malcolmjcullen 14 днів тому

Den Haag is not the name of the football team, it's HVV. Den Haag is the city.

@sirkennydalglishstand 14 днів тому

How's it going, Sam? Great to see another visit to the Netherlands, a country with great history in the sport. This video Intrigued me learning of the 'true pioneers'.

@FootyAdventures 14 днів тому

Thanks mate yeah I'm all good thanks. Hope you are too. HVV are a Dutch queen's park!

@jamesirvine9493 14 днів тому

before the 70s holland was famous for clogs and windmills only then suddenly famous for unbelievable football teams

@RNSHKSHN 12 днів тому

Yessss finally! You came to my city and we have more in our history 😊

@casualsuspect9878 14 днів тому

I heard of this before but never seen a reportage like this about the topic. Thank you, very interesting.

@davidfairhurst4074 14 днів тому

Always good to hear that Steve McLaren clip.

@keesvogelzang4588 10 днів тому

It breaths history. Love this stuff. Keep it up.

@philipkefford5644 14 днів тому

Great video, great channel. Up there with Stunt Peg for football. This clip is fabulous, detail, history and passionate.

@peterdekoning3452 10 днів тому

Thanks for the video and so nice to see football history. I checked the internet: oldest football pitch in the world is at Sandygate (1860!, Hallam FC in Sheffield). Wow. Some of the first clubs in The Netherlands: HFC 1879 rugby, football since 1883 (Haarlem), Hercules 1882 cricket, football since 1889 (Utrecht), HVV 1883 (The Hague), Concordia 1885 (Delft), Go Ahead 1886 (Wageningen) fused with Victoria (1889) to become Victoria in1903, Sparta 1888 (Rotterdam), and Vitesse 1892 (Arnhem). I played for Hercules (amateur) as a child and loved the history of the club. My kid recently played against HVV and I pointed out the buildings and history to him. So nice to see how they try to maintain their history.

@alanprior7650 11 днів тому

How amazing that HVV were a true sporting club,not just football but other sport including cricket 🏏

@ivo76 10 днів тому

The first footballclubs in the Netherlands were combinations of football and cricketteams

@Rowley_Birkin_QC 10 днів тому

@@ivo76this is true of a lot of English clubs too. Football in winter, cricket in summer. My club Tottenham Hotspur started as a cricket club. I am surprised to learn that cricket was played back then in Netherlands as I thought England just exported the game to our colonies!

@jamesmacleod671 10 днів тому

What i find quite sad is you dont see the likes of Ajax, psv, Feyenoord contesting European cup finals anymore. It seems like the big money clubs have a monopoly on those competitions.

@canaryinthemiddle 13 днів тому

I live in The Hague and didn't know about this...thank you! I will take a wee bike ride to check it out. Any other Dutch videos planned???? I am going to Sparta Rotterdam V Volendam in 10 days at The Castle. Can't wait! Thanks for great content always. Come to OCaseys if you're ever in Den Haag again and I'll pour you a pint. Any plans on Carrow Road/The Nest video in Norwich??? Would love to see you do talk Canary video

@fritskempeneers1686 9 днів тому

this is where i used to play when i was younger! crazy to see a video about it, great job!

@FootyAdventures 9 днів тому

Thank you! 🙏🏼

@roberteveleigh642 13 днів тому

I spend a lot of time in the Netherlands and I am always impressed with the standard of the facilities that lower league and youth teams enjoy. Such a contrast to grassroots in England. A little further up our pyramid, I follow my local semi professional team in the Southern Premier League. Some of the grounds and pitches at this level are an absolute disgrace..

@DavidozGames 12 днів тому

Very good video! Fun fact; although it is the oldest pitch currently still in use, the first game was played in Enschede, about 10 years before HVV started.

@HibernianFV1903 13 днів тому

I watch you everyday your videos literally make me sleep 😂

@romanmedina3543 11 днів тому

I love your videos and you always do a great job. I wish you would go back to Portugal and do a video on Casa Pia AC . They are the third Lisbon team atm in the top flight and have a very interesting history that goes back to 1890's. The club is named after a children's charity and was in the 5th division of Portuguese footy in 2007 returning to the first division in 2022 some 80 years since their last appearance in it. Crazy story, also current Sporting and potential Liverpool coach Ruben Amorim has a connection and short tenure with that club, technically.

@amc5966 14 днів тому

What a fabulous and interesting vlog.

@GroundhopperFC 14 днів тому

Awesome story Sam! Love u seeing in the most beautiful country in the world 😉🇳🇱

@benitolazio8193 12 днів тому

Brilliant... i learnt a lot!

@kris.markas8375 14 днів тому

Last season I played for a different team SV Die Haghe against them and I am an international student here I didn't know much about teams I played against and my teammates told about HVV and their significance in Dutch football. It was really amazing playing against teams like this. Sadly, I do not live in the Hague anymore, hopefully in the future I will visit my old team as well as HVV 😃

@TheWully09 10 днів тому

Nice to see clubs that still play for enjoyment rather than the greedy ,win at all costs and fans are seen as ATM s attitude ,we see from premier league clubs these days These are the kind of clubs that more money should come down the football pyramid to help out .

@depekthegreat359 14 днів тому

I have not really heard about HVV Den Haag but I am extremely so sad to see this fallen giant to be struggling like when their rivals ADO Den Haag are doing alright in this season's Dutch second division but of course,the former are have won even titles and the latter with four titles,good friends!!!This is the most shocking ever in the footballing world for them to be the amateur league but I am fully hoping to see them bouncing back slowly but will take years to be in the Dutch top four divisions but still,just hope,good friends!!!LONG LIVE HVV DEN HAAG!!!🙏🏻

@niallfoody97 14 днів тому

they need to introduce promotion into the second teir then.

@georgeedmiston5280 13 днів тому

Another great video again buddie.

@baspauw4958 14 днів тому

Awesome video!

@no_one_of_that_name_here 11 днів тому

Watched, liked, subscribed!

@FootyAdventures 11 днів тому

Cheers, thank you, thanks!

@GenialHarryGrout 14 днів тому

This is a fascinating story

@alex-E7WHU 11 днів тому

Wonderful film, i used to live in the Netherlands and got to see fc Utrecht occasionally. 👍⚒️

@ryanoconnor5612 11 днів тому

Great video from another country 👏

@caltblake6112 14 днів тому

Always a great film

@robertmoore393 11 днів тому

Nice to see Dunfermline local Andrew Carnegie make an appearance at 11:34 👍

@lkrnpk 10 днів тому

It would be interesting if ten Hag was coaching Den Haag :D

@peter51171 14 днів тому

Great video. Never realised they have 10 league titles and are just behind the three big clubs.

@Justancfcfan 14 днів тому

Where is the Stadium?

@Min14100 11 днів тому

Wow, this club would be a fun club to play in football manager

@thomaskoopman3776 14 днів тому

There's a bunch of these clubs like DWS in Europe in the late 60's and now they are like 8th tier, de Volewijckers who were champions and the phoenix club started in like the 11th tier and are still nothing

@labr7414 13 днів тому

There's one of these in most leagues - Aston Villa in England 6 of their 7 tiles came before 1910. They won 6 of the first 21 then 1 in the last 115 years. - Genoa in Italy The most titles barring the big 3 but none for literally 100 years. As well as Pro Vercelli.

@T.W.K.1993 2 дні тому

Great video, you should visit the cambuur stadium before it gets demolished!

@FootyAdventures 2 дні тому

I'll definitely try!

@T.W.K.1993 2 дні тому

@@FootyAdventures thank you for trying, you would love the oldskool feel the ground has. With a lot of history! The last match on the 10th of May will be insane, I will be there, but it is sold out already...

@tammo100 14 днів тому

HVV plays at 7th level nowadays. Dutch league system is a bit weird because there is no promotion/relegation between 2nd and 3rd level

@chrischarman8707 11 днів тому

Love the story reveal in the toilet of an easyJet plane. Classy.

@FootyAdventures 11 днів тому

🤣🤣

@martijn_yt 12 днів тому

Nice history ! (one correction, i think you meant to write the flood disaster of 1956, where 1600 people died in the province of Zeeland, not 1935)

@knorrie63 9 днів тому

Dat was in 1953 trouwens….😉

@StormScout130 14 днів тому

I saw you at airdrie tns game I told my dad there is the goat😊

@FootyAdventures 14 днів тому

Haha cheers

@raymundo632 6 днів тому

Top notch

@Tpay6789 13 днів тому

Not sure if you have been but have you ever gone to the last piece of the old Wembley stadium

@GorgeDawes 8 днів тому

Brit in NL here. I’ve played cricket there. I didn’t realise the famous footballing history they have. It’s not widely appreciated in the UK just how late Dutch football became professional. Pro contracts only started to become a feature in the 1950’s and didn’t become the norm until the 1960’s.

@kevinrobb86 14 днів тому

Nice little stadium

@williamthompson2941 9 днів тому

nice one, but pity you didnt check weather first 😆

@ju.ice-der-boi 9 днів тому

There‘s FC Nuremberg. They‘ve relegated just 1 season after winning the league in the 60s. They‘ve since been the only ones ever being able to bottle a league win so hard. In 2007 they did the same thing again, and relegated after winning the german DFB cup. They still have the 2nd most league wins in Germany, and currently face the 5th consecutive season in league 2, while being on the lower end of the table. As I‘m a fan myself I just pray that we don‘t fall down like many other old successors did. I wanna be able to watch games even when I‘m 80.

@gordon1545 6 днів тому

The International Peace Palace that you featured, home of the International Court of Justice, was paid for by Scottish philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, which is why there was an information board about him. The little visitor centre there is well worth a browse.

@garyweir8587 12 днів тому

Do Corinthian-Casuals when you're next in Surrey, Sam. They once made up the entire England squad back in the day but back to back relegations now sees them in Step 7 of the English non-league football pyramid. Their story is right up your street. Shirt sales to Brazil is a signifantly sized and much valued revenue stream.

@user-zh7et7ze6k 11 днів тому

this is incorrect, because the eredivie was from the beginning of professional football onwards....

@alexanderbreston9918 12 днів тому

Hvv denhaag was founded in 1883. Between 1891 and 1914 they won 10 championships. In 1932 they fell from highest division. Now they play 1e class (under 4th division)

@jamesbenstead1006 14 днів тому

Not a fall from grace. A great story though.

@frisianprideworldwide 14 днів тому

I see you read my comment on the pro vercelli video

@randolacle 9 днів тому

The Hague had a lot of great football clubs in the "only amateur" era. And some of these clubs were more for the upper echalon in the community and they considered it inferior to be paid to play football. So when Professional football was introduced in 1953, they opted to stay amateur clubs, 3 of these clubs in The Hague are HVV, HBS and Quick. Still very well known clubs in The Hague.

@kaihiggins725 9 днів тому

We can see this a lot in English football. Not on this scale of course, all league winners since 1888 in England are in the top 2 divisions however when you look at the FA Cup we have Bury who had their golden period in the Edwardian period, The Wanderers who have 6 FA Cup titles the same as Newcastle more than Everton. It’s why I love that period of football across Europe

@TheAnfieldLark 11 днів тому

Great to hear Dutch legend Schteeve Meeklaren at the start

@martijnkosters9024 11 днів тому

Well you certainly surprised this Dutchman. I thought you were going to HFC Haarlem, HVV didn't cross my mind.

@FootyAdventures 11 днів тому

I’ve since heard about Haarlem. Will need to visit them next time I come!

@tdtm82 14 днів тому

Zuid Holland. Noord Holland is Amsterdam and beyond...love The Netherlands.

@robindaleman6389 14 днів тому

Noord Holland is Haarlem

@tdtm82 14 днів тому

@@robindaleman6389 I have been..yup

@user-dc2ww4of2b 8 днів тому

Interesting enjoyed that from Wolves fan

@steveburnham8755 14 днів тому

❤

@ohjajohh 3 дні тому

I'm Dutch and I even didn't know all this

@ZakkWyldeman 10 днів тому

Go to Csepel SC, at Budapest Hungary. 4 first tier title, currently in non league (Budapest first div.) oooooh and to make it more funny: no its 2 teams enteres with the same Csepel name and Csepel logo.

@erikthehalfabee6234 12 днів тому

I saw the thumbnail and the date posted and thought it might be Vitesse, even if they weren't 10 times champion. Haha

@KanJonathan 9 днів тому

AFC DWS next? (Sorry, didn't realize you had done this already.)

@michaelmadden3016 11 днів тому

reminds me a little of queens park

@niksyakhina6311 3 дні тому

Bidor Botani in Malaysia...also non leaguers ...to stay a float each year is like a nightmare...kids who suffers....

@Joefusz 2 дні тому

Nver order a Amstel beer again, order hertog jan XD

@labr7414 13 днів тому

Go to Genoa too.

@beasttheboy 11 днів тому

I have played there before i had no idea 💀

@user-hf3lj8jh8x 10 днів тому

Wow, that lads spoken English is really good.

@ccityplanner1217 11 днів тому

I'm going to not count it if it's because they didn't go professional, like Queens Park.

@rankobarensic 14 днів тому

6:15 Ballotagecommissie 😊

@kaspernielsen9149 13 днів тому

You will find AB in Denmark if you wanna see another team falling from grace :D

@terrywhite7190 14 днів тому

Why did it take you until the last few minutes to tell us who you were talking about?

@maxgamingyt3175 12 днів тому

if im not mistaken only the eredivisie is a payed league,some clubs in the 2nd division who used to play in the eredivisie do ofc pay their players,but there are still certain club even in the 2nd division where the footballers either arn't payed or little to none

@maxgamingyt3175 12 днів тому

my mistake i meant the 3rd division,not the 2nd