Ukraine 'forced to withdraw US-supplied Abrams from frontline' as losses mount

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13 днів тому

Ukraine is reportedly withdrawing its American-supplied Abrams tanks from the frontline because so many are being lost to Russian drone attacks.
Around a sixth of all the Abrams tanks that have been supplied have already been destroyed, according to US media.
Forces News has taken a closer look at this reported withdrawal and what we know about the success of the vehicle.
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@Y_hass
@Y_hass 10 днів тому
These weapons looked mighty and invincible because they kept using them on Ahmed the farmer.
@ThePhantom712
@ThePhantom712 10 днів тому
They used them in Dessert storm with great success.
@JustSomeGuy8492
@JustSomeGuy8492 10 днів тому
@@ThePhantom712Against illiterate Iraqi conscripts.
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 10 днів тому
@@ThePhantom712 hilarious and delusional proves their point entirely, the usa has never fought even close to a near pear in its live time, even in ww2 japan was stretch on all fronts fighting with 21 other countries at the same time as the usa and the ija and the ijn were fighting a civil war too. so it was 30% of the japanese forces who were underfunded vs the entire us military and it still took so long to even do anything against a population 1/10th the size and no natural resources
@salahad-dinyusufibnayyub7754
@salahad-dinyusufibnayyub7754 9 днів тому
@@JustSomeGuy8492 and it was the Iraqi after long years of war with Iran, with outdated equipments, especially no great power like Soviet back them up. And most of Iraqi force were focused on Kuwait, they didnt prepare much to be flanked, if they got better defense preparation, thing gonna be quite different
@cmsworld5591
@cmsworld5591 9 днів тому
to be fair the iraqi t72s were downgraded versions of the russian t72s coupled to the fact that iraq was fighting a coalition of Nato Countries that have a pretty large military (US, UK,france etc.)
@XTSu-sl1bb
@XTSu-sl1bb 11 днів тому
They can’t use nato tactics without air dominance.
@fToo
@fToo 11 днів тому
i came here to say this too !
@fourthhorseman4531
@fourthhorseman4531 11 днів тому
Exactly!
@dexterplameras3249
@dexterplameras3249 11 днів тому
The Ukrainians can use NATO tactics if they can find a way to get through the minefields into open areas, and the way the west does that is by controlling the skies so ground forces can clear the mine field.
@copiumdealer1
@copiumdealer1 11 днів тому
Cope and seethe
@kgchinlumayna
@kgchinlumayna 11 днів тому
Even you have air dominance... it's useless if you fight a country who can pulverized you in a moment. It works in a country like Iraq, Afghanistan but in Russia if you punch him in the face he will punch you in the face too.
@thefriendlyapostate8290
@thefriendlyapostate8290 9 днів тому
Never bring a tank to a shovel fight.
@youjustreadthis897
@youjustreadthis897 7 днів тому
Slava Shovelii 🇷🇺
@mikejohn2999
@mikejohn2999 6 днів тому
😂😂😂
@elcormoran1
@elcormoran1 4 дні тому
Bahahahahaha
@phooogle
@phooogle 4 дні тому
Bum fight with shovels.
@Nihilus0017
@Nihilus0017 2 дні тому
DIGGY DIGGY HOLE
@MohammedFurqon
@MohammedFurqon 10 днів тому
'Game changer' left the game 😂😂😂😂😂
@ebiekem
@ebiekem 7 днів тому
😂😂😂😂😂
@undertamker9606
@undertamker9606 6 днів тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sameepinspires2669
@sameepinspires2669 6 днів тому
Hahahaha
@tigsik3128
@tigsik3128 6 днів тому
Haha remembered when they started sharing posters of the leopard hahaha now its in moscow for public viewing lol
@Herofromzer0
@Herofromzer0 6 днів тому
@zakauckram4987
@zakauckram4987 11 днів тому
Them tanks are good on paper when there is no airpower that has destroyed everything first
@diegoflores9237
@diegoflores9237 10 днів тому
Keep coping
@BleedingSnow
@BleedingSnow 10 днів тому
@@diegoflores9237 Ukraine sent in the Abrams to help secure the retreat from Avdiivka, within 2 days 5 were lost, of the 31, and Bradleys and more galore. There is to coping lol, they're dying....... if they weren't getting destroyed Ukraine wouldn't pull them from the front.
@daemon7225
@daemon7225 8 днів тому
@@diegoflores9237 Seethe. No air power = no win.
@AApnah13
@AApnah13 7 днів тому
​@@daemon7225 bro thinks air power is an automatic against a peer power..lmfao read a book lol
@daemon7225
@daemon7225 7 днів тому
@@AApnah13 I’m agreeing with you. But my point was nato/USA always enjoyed air supremacy in most of the conflicts
@cantgameright
@cantgameright 11 днів тому
So the term "cope cage" is official now. Wow lol
@thinkerly1
@thinkerly1 11 днів тому
Only ru trash say lol about mass murdet
@zama7902
@zama7902 11 днів тому
What do you think “cope” would stand for in terms of military speak/abbreviations?.😂
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j 11 днів тому
Yet when the Israelis use it, it's not called that 😂
@AmaterasuOjo
@AmaterasuOjo 10 днів тому
​@@user-op8fg3ny3jbecause its "aNti-SeMeTiC" whilst they are not even 1% semetic at all lol.
@mh-ht2fp
@mh-ht2fp 10 днів тому
@@zama7902 "customizable overhead protected enclosure"
@phooogle
@phooogle 11 днів тому
You can't use combined arms warfare without overwhelming air dominace
@strangelylookingperson
@strangelylookingperson 11 днів тому
In other words, NATO tactics is mainly effective against guerrilla forces.
@Keith-jp6jw
@Keith-jp6jw 11 днів тому
@strangelylookingperson Considering the U.S. Air Force is the worlds largest Air Force with the U.S. navy being the 2nd largest airforce in the world. It’s a safe bet to say that the U.S. would still rely on its air dominance, even over Russia.
@strangelylookingperson
@strangelylookingperson 11 днів тому
@@Keith-jp6jw Considering all of that, you fled like there is no tomorrow from a bunch of bare footed poor equipped, although very well motivated, Taliban warriors.
@Erwinelwormo
@Erwinelwormo 11 днів тому
​​@@strangelylookingpersonoccupied the country for 20 years the taliban only slithered out of their caves when the coast was clear you make out they won some historic battle 😂 on the otherhand the soviet union was destroyed and booted out of Afghanistan and this contributed to the soviet union collapsing entirely 😂😂😂
@EAMonstah
@EAMonstah 11 днів тому
​@Erwinelwormo That is correct
@TwitchyRoom
@TwitchyRoom 11 днів тому
New age of warfare 40 years ago we didn’t have drones we do now
@mauricetoussaint7283
@mauricetoussaint7283 9 днів тому
Drones have been around since 1918, the Kettering Bug mean anything? In the mid 1930's the US Navy were flying drones by remote for use as target practice. Loads of examples. Check your facts buddy.
@liamspencer4941
@liamspencer4941 8 днів тому
@@mauricetoussaint7283 They weren't really used for combat, their effectiveness was questionable.
@noone7692
@noone7692 8 днів тому
Didn't see this qoute when T-72 was fighting in ukraine
@Adriaticus
@Adriaticus 5 днів тому
​​@@mauricetoussaint7283You are taking advantage of the blurry definition of what a drone actually is. What he is referring to are the cheap to produce, live battlefield coverage, anti everything drones that can be created using civilian products. These are the drones that will change war.
@ReikerForge
@ReikerForge 3 дні тому
@@mauricetoussaint7283 In 2015 the most a drone could do was burn a flag down with a lighter and a spray can attached to it. Now they're dropping bombs and kamikaze striking ships and tanks.
@Skabanis
@Skabanis 10 днів тому
Another news report where Russia is losing yet gained about 10 km in the last two weeks. What is this news report talking about 3000 tanks and Ukraine lost five tanks this is some serious cop.
@DanAth-il1uq
@DanAth-il1uq 8 днів тому
It’s just a way of the western media trying to make sense of their defeat. Russia has lost way more tanks than Ukraine (says who the same people that told us Russia would be defeated by Bradley’s then patriots missiles then leopard tanks). It’s a way of west coping with the defeat of their weapons. They are also now saying part of the problem is Ukraine not using Western tactics but then again the Ukrainians said their counteroffensive failed because they used Western tactics.
@sudfac
@sudfac 7 днів тому
Tonight Russians brought damaged M1 Abrams to exhibition in Moscow.
@anigmaYT
@anigmaYT 6 днів тому
​@@DanAth-il1uqwhat defeat the fact after 3 years still raising the flag and not going full vietcong proves how "powerful russia is"
@baileygregory9192
@baileygregory9192 6 днів тому
​@DanAth-il1uq I mean forces news isn't just western media, its basically the british mod news channel so it's going to be biased
@warlockwod
@warlockwod 6 днів тому
Yeah, Ukraine is winning! They keep advancing to the rear, while Russia retreats to the front
@strizhi6717
@strizhi6717 9 днів тому
Too late ... Several have been captured one confirmed on its way to Moscow
@jaydenmadden6986
@jaydenmadden6986 5 днів тому
all abrams that were sent are the old versions that arent in service in the us military anymore
@testsurname5679
@testsurname5679 5 днів тому
It doesn’t matter whether it’s old or new. Win is win
@shionuzuki5549
@shionuzuki5549 5 днів тому
@@testsurname5679 blah blah butt hurt Russian bot.
@alqash6749
@alqash6749 5 днів тому
​@jaydenmadden6986 hmmm sounds like cope to me
@Adriaticus
@Adriaticus 5 днів тому
​@@jaydenmadden6986Doesn't matter, if a captured American tank is paraded around Moscow it isn't a good look.
@jjsmallpiece9234
@jjsmallpiece9234 11 днів тому
Except the Ukrainians can't use true NATO combined arms tactics, they don't have control of the air. It was unrealistic of NATO to expect Ukraine to use NATO tactics with out the required air support. Its wise to withdraw the Abrams, there is no point in taking unnecessary loses.
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
Quite - or it was stupid to send the Abrams. Just as it is stupid to send European troops this week, Ukraine has been losing badly from the start. What is clear is that Russia have been learning about Drone warfare for 2 years (and therefore so have Iran and China). But US hasn't learnt and is still teaching Ukraine the tactics to fight Iraq 20 years ago with complete air control. Heaven help the Europeans if they fight in Ukraine or the Americans if they send carriers to fight over Taiwan..
@newguy954
@newguy954 11 днів тому
What makes you think nato will,we saw first hand in Vietnam,Afghanistan and currently in gaza how superior air power means nothing if the enemy can counter it with concealed positions and underground tunnels,in fact the Russians have already started tunnel tactics to literally undermine Ukrainian positions.
@thetruthhurts7675
@thetruthhurts7675 11 днів тому
@@antique-bs8bb Losing badly? They have recovered over 30% of the land Russia took, and are pushing back on all fronts, only Russian drone infantry are appearing to win. However even those loses are unsustainable for Russia in the long run. Mean while the Challenger continues to obliterate Russian armour unabated.
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
​@@thetruthhurts7675 But most of that land Russia didn't care about - much of it wasn't even occupied by Russian troops (ie anything between Kharkov and Russian border). And in doing that they didn't kill Russians - hence the laughter at Izium - look at how the Russians ran... which of course means they left before we got there. Meanwhile Ukrainians have died in large numbers every month of the war, Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in 2 years, and Russia hasn't chosen to withdraw from a town or city of over a year. The Spring/Summer/Autumn offensive crossed the first of 3 lines of defence only at Robotno and just ended up as a killing pit that Ukraine threw men into and they died. Challenger - watch the clip - another complete western failure. Withdrawn out of embarrassment. Russian losses are some 50k dead, while Russian volunteers are some 400k on top of the 300 K reservists called up in 2022. Ukrainian dead are some 500k. That after starting with 700k and calling up at least 1m (well dragging many off the streets). Probably 500k wounded (survival as an untrained Ukrainian is tough) and at least 100k AWOL and quite a lot of POWs. There ought to be 500K left but it is probably half that (more dead? More AWOL?) Unsustainable is a strange world where Ukraine does not have the troops to use the weapons it has now and European troops are appearing in W Ukraine in uniform).
@verdebusterAP
@verdebusterAP 11 днів тому
True but at the end of the day Ukraine needs aircraft more than tanks. Ukraine just got the ATACMS with 190 range able to carry 500lbs warhead Thats going to be a major bane for Russian forces Submunitions are good for materiel and light armor but a 500lbs warhead is excellent for pin point strike against high value targets The Kerch bridge for example
@Invicta_57
@Invicta_57 5 днів тому
Those tanks only help against third world countries. Not Russia
@mikeB-sg1zs
@mikeB-sg1zs 3 дні тому
Did you take a break from welding tool sheds to your superior tanks? I heard the Russian tanks did really well in Afghanistan too
@davidkavanagh189
@davidkavanagh189 3 дні тому
@@mikeB-sg1zs He didn't say Russian tanks are superior. Learn to read before typing. You'll looks less daft that way. His point was correct. American stuff only looks great when killing poor people in the sandpit.
@ReikerForge
@ReikerForge 3 дні тому
@@mikeB-sg1zs Murica #1 main battle tank gets smashed like every other superweapon NATO sends, and all you can do is cope about a war that happened 50 years ago that was also a proxy war between the US and the USSR. Speaking of, how well did the US do in afghanistan? 8 billion dollars of tanks, jets, helicopters and small arms left behind, aftyer spending trillions of dollars, twenty years of invasion got toppled in two weeks? Sounds like a massive win to me.
@nothere4089
@nothere4089 3 дні тому
@@mikeB-sg1zs cope yankee. your wonderweapons are on display in moscow.
@Melior_Traiano
@Melior_Traiano 2 дні тому
@@ReikerForge Russian combat deaths in Ukraine: 150000. NATO combat deaths in Ukraine: 0.
@piotrmontgomerytv7786
@piotrmontgomerytv7786 11 днів тому
R.I.P tanks, era of drones has come.
@FarmerSchinken
@FarmerSchinken 11 днів тому
I don't think so. Just add an AA gun like the German Gepard and/or cope cages and drones are pretty much back to being useless other than for reconnaissance.
@Blastoice
@Blastoice 10 днів тому
​@@FarmerSchinken I agree, why can't they have miniguns on tanks firing at drones as they come in. A , AA gun on a tank would work brilliant for a drone.
@user-pg4ux3cs3e
@user-pg4ux3cs3e 10 днів тому
​​​@@Blastoice Well clearly it is unnecessary for a tank to add anti air guns instead of heavy machine guns because of their main purposes of being an offensive force combined with Infantry, Aviations and now also be used as Self-Propelled Gun by Russia or Ukraine in the conflict. Besides a tank with an additional Chain gun or four 30mm cannons, a big ass radar and an AA missile launcher and is not really a "tank" anymore right? imagine the weights, the logistical problems, the budget of actually building one to do well for both roles. I can't tell you the practicalities and tactics of how a hybrid tank can possibly do, i am not a Military designer, but i can tell you that the tank will be the best and most reliable when it gets its designed jobs done. Tanks are like Vanguards, they are built to be in the front and support firepower for friendlies as well as being aided by them. They don't need an independent AA system, a ground Platoon or an SPAA can do the things for them more effectively.
@Dannyboy16434
@Dannyboy16434 9 днів тому
@@Blastoicethat would just slow the tank even more
@ezra5788
@ezra5788 9 днів тому
@@FarmerSchinken You have to detect it to shoot it down. Drones dive at a target at high speed, which means there is little time to shoot them down.
@jasoncallow860
@jasoncallow860 6 днів тому
This always happens. Once upon a time, the battleship was queen of the sea then air power rendered it obsolete. Tank armour was improved and tandem warheads were developed. One innovation leads to another. This is nothing new. Tanks will be fitted with anti-drone defences and then everyone will say drones are obsolete. Tanks were a solution to trench warfare and so it continues. The only thing you can guarantee is change.
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 2 дні тому
True, which is why russia had these “cope cages” to defend against drones and now the russians just welded on a massive steel shed onto a tank to protect against drones
@GlenCychosz
@GlenCychosz 11 днів тому
What a surprise. Nothing is invulnerable.
@paoloorate2265
@paoloorate2265 7 днів тому
Lol. $10 Million tank destroyed by $5K drone.
@ladamilitarizado327
@ladamilitarizado327 2 дні тому
Not even $5k drones. Russians and ukrainians are making home-made (trench-made actually) drones with ducktape
@Caroleonus
@Caroleonus 11 днів тому
I love how the term 'cope cage' has now become official parlance
@davidkavanagh189
@davidkavanagh189 3 дні тому
Only in the west and in English. Do you have some evidence the factory calls them that?
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 2 дні тому
Not when its israeli
@user-mn2mw1og8u
@user-mn2mw1og8u 5 днів тому
It's just in: tanks not invulnerable
@josephmshelia7591
@josephmshelia7591 9 днів тому
But they media told us that Russian Army was fighting with shovels and sticks
@mikeB-sg1zs
@mikeB-sg1zs 3 дні тому
Kyiv in 3 days. 450K Russians rotting in the ground. And you’re on UKposts lmaoo
@y.kazayaki3681
@y.kazayaki3681 3 дні тому
​@@mikeB-sg1zs meanwhile Ukraine is running out of troops and ammo while Russia is still spewing out troops. Never go to a prolonged war with Russia. Y'all never learned since the 1700's. They literally have more bodies than you have bullets. Napoleonic war , WW1 , WW2 has shown this very well. You can't change that fact. No matter how much copium you suck in. History has told this story so many times and I'm just mentioning 3 examples on the top of my head hahaha
@Bren.nto6971
@Bren.nto6971 3 дні тому
​@@mikeB-sg1zshahaha, moan harder
@OniiChan6161
@OniiChan6161 3 дні тому
​@@mikeB-sg1zsyup, i remembered it was gen Miley said that.... Wait... he's russian right?.... right?
@ladamilitarizado327
@ladamilitarizado327 2 дні тому
They are.... but Strong シャベル[Shovel] it's indeed, too strong
@MackMateCom
@MackMateCom 3 дні тому
I’m not a Russia supporter but where is the proof they lost 3k tanks
@GKOYG_and_KAAF_is_epic
@GKOYG_and_KAAF_is_epic 3 дні тому
3k killed tank is indeed propaganda but nonetheless russian got heavy tank casualties duo the overly aggresive tactics in the beginning and the use of improvised anti tank weapons ending up being threatening and dangerous yet cheap and widely avaiable like the drones droppinh anti armour rounds from the above.
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 2 дні тому
Probably not 3k but definitely significantly large amount have been lost
@LucasYoung-uc2ek
@LucasYoung-uc2ek День тому
From the oryx blog Russia has lost at least 1982 Tanks destroyed 155 damaged 318 abandoned 514 captured as of may 7.
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 День тому
@@LucasYoung-uc2ek right the pro ukrainian "osint" that totally not biased at all...
@maximtudor9490
@maximtudor9490 5 днів тому
I dont think there is any mass produced tank thats not vulnerable to drone attacks
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 2 дні тому
The cutting edge turtle tanks have been immune to drones
@CheersDits2979
@CheersDits2979 11 днів тому
NATO needs to start changing its whole doctrine and focus on the drone threat. Drones have made such a change to modern warfare as the machine gun did in WW1.
@EnglishScripter
@EnglishScripter 11 днів тому
No it does not, Ukraine just needs air defences. Drones have not changed warfare, they do the same thing as missiles, just alot lot, cheaper.
@stephengilmore2741
@stephengilmore2741 11 днів тому
It really doesn't, though. Drones can easily be defeated, whether by specific anti-drone or jamming weapons, or more SPAAG units - but we aren't supply Ukraine with anywhere near enough of them. The doctrine is not the issue - the equipment is.
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
It needs to change its whole doctrine full stop. It is losing big time, it needs to stick to fighting countries it can bully like Libya. More important Nato has to realise that the US is destroying Ukraine for its own purposes while economically destroying Germany and much of Europe by cutting it off from cheap gas and oil. This is as much a US war against Germany as a US slaughter of Ukrainians.
@BroadHobbyProjects
@BroadHobbyProjects 11 днів тому
​@@EnglishScripterYou literally have no idea what you're on about. Lol One drone now can avoid detection and spot troops many many miles away, even hidden in cover if it has a thermal. Able to call in precise artillery, airstrikes or drones with explosives. Then fly back to base. That alone removes the need for troops forward doing recon to try find targets and call in assets to knock out threats. But it's much more risky because of personnel, now drones are watching too. One cheap drone can become the eyes and ears of its owner or a deadly bomb. Drones have been the most important asset in this war. If they weren't so accessible say like 12-15 years ago Ukraine would of lost by now.
@EnglishScripter
@EnglishScripter 11 днів тому
@@BroadHobbyProjects Ground Based radar can easily detect these drones, he is talking about drones being the threat themselves, and not acting as scouts. We have had more expensive version of these scouts for the past 3 decades, They have been used in Iraq, Afghanistan etc. It is only going to take a few years, till drones will be made very venerable. Also, how dare you say drones have been the most important asset, when there are hundreds of thousands of men dying or suffering on the front, these drones have not replaced these warriors. That is very disrespectful to all the great veterans, and serving soldiers are great nations have. Ukraine lost by now? You really have no clue. Anti tank guided missiles, have destroyed the majority of Russian armour, not drones.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 8 днів тому
Ever since the Abrams was designed there have been doubts about the gas turbine hot exhaust being easily detectable. In the past their foes did not have the technology to exploit the weakness, now they do!
@anigmaYT
@anigmaYT 6 днів тому
You mean china because russias are worse than consumer grade
@darkmavrik2490
@darkmavrik2490 4 дні тому
all tanks are now useless in this war
@anigmaYT
@anigmaYT 4 дні тому
Yeah you can only do so much damage to infrastructure until the enemy dosent have any yeah drones are being made in a factory which in future wars is target 1 and what drones then same with mines
@syedhasan8181
@syedhasan8181 11 днів тому
In modern warfare, tanks can only be used with air cover. It simply won't do without it :)
@Scar626
@Scar626 11 днів тому
A drone can still fly in low and hit the engine deck or tracks, stopping it from moving. Then artillery has a stationary target. That is the issue they're talking about. Never mind the fact that Russia has remote minelayers (ie an artillery system that fires mines on mass over a wide area) and they seem to also hurt the tracks on a tank that will also immobilize it, so they don't even necessarily have to hit it with a drone to stop it from moving.
@syedhasan8181
@syedhasan8181 11 днів тому
@@Scar626Mines can be cleared by using mine sweeper tanks sent ahead of other tanks. So, mines are an old issue that have a solution. But drones and attack helicopters are novel anti-tank platforms that can use anti-tank missiles more effectively than the ground forces can. And, this is the reason air cover is essential in modern warfare :)
@diegoflores9237
@diegoflores9237 10 днів тому
Keep coping
@Scar626
@Scar626 10 днів тому
@@syedhasan8181 yeah, normally minesweepers can cope with mines, but did you miss the "remote" of remote mine laying? An artillery launcher launching mines far behind the front lines. In other words, minesweeper advance and then the remote mine laying equipment lays more right behind and around those minesweepers, ie when infantry or supply trucks want to follow or the minesweeper wants to reverse it's "gg, well played". Did you miss the part that the counter offensive failed?
@gugulethuzangwa8358
@gugulethuzangwa8358 6 днів тому
No my guy it's just because the US has never fight an army but rebels
@JA-pn4ji
@JA-pn4ji 11 днів тому
The Abrams joins the Challenger in the rear.
@1chish
@1chish 11 днів тому
The Challenger is in the front line. Tovarish.
@gont183
@gont183 11 днів тому
With your dad?
@rogerjensen5277
@rogerjensen5277 11 днів тому
@@1chish In Poland!
@1chish
@1chish 11 днів тому
@@rogerjensen5277 Well not according to Ukraine videos and media. But the British Army has Challengers in Eastern Europe right now. Some may well be in Poland ....
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 11 днів тому
@@1chish yes the barbequed ones.
@xpact83
@xpact83 11 днів тому
Wtf guys here talking about control of the air? You dont just control the air if your enemy is a legit power. Do you think the allies control the air in world war 2? In the first major clashes? It was only controled when germany was about to lose.
@daniellee2343
@daniellee2343 11 днів тому
Allies had overwhelming air superiority in Europe from d day to the end.
@user-ee6nb9ec6v
@user-ee6nb9ec6v 10 днів тому
​@@daniellee2343but d day was in 1944, when Germany was destroyed by USSR basically
@daniellee2343
@daniellee2343 10 днів тому
@@user-ee6nb9ec6v is that why they kept going? Most of the luftwaffe was directed towards the west to protect against bombers. The allies weren't going to do ground force invasion until air superiority was achieved.
@user-ee6nb9ec6v
@user-ee6nb9ec6v 10 днів тому
@@daniellee2343 not make that big sense, cause all sources were for the east front.
@daniellee2343
@daniellee2343 10 днів тому
@@user-ee6nb9ec6v learn to speak. You are speaking gibberish. Only the western allies threatened German cities with bombers.
@newguy954
@newguy954 11 днів тому
Nlaws and javelins are far and few between,the real threat is from fpv drones which strangely enough russia was aware would be a problem from day 1 of the invasion which is why they pre-installed them.
@weldmaster1825
@weldmaster1825 6 днів тому
The shovels are sharp. Even Abrahams are scared of them
@mikeB-sg1zs
@mikeB-sg1zs 3 дні тому
Kyiv in 3 days!
@daveoc5770
@daveoc5770 4 години тому
​@@mikeB-sg1zsyou keep quoting general milley
@sabian8700
@sabian8700 11 днів тому
No need to watch the video, we've already seen the Russian FOV videos of them offing the Abrams among other western tanks.
@Theveganshift77
@Theveganshift77 11 днів тому
The same way Russian tanks and APV's get smoked all the time by Ukranian POV drones. Tanks on either side can't survive a battlefield swarmed with drones.
@sabian8700
@sabian8700 11 днів тому
@@Theveganshift77 duh
@JayJay-xy5ch
@JayJay-xy5ch 11 днів тому
​@@Theveganshift77​​@shinji1264 lol, really?. So Ukraine is winning? And now in Moscow? Are you serious?
@Theveganshift77
@Theveganshift77 11 днів тому
@@JayJay-xy5ch never said. Only stated the same as Ukraine is losing tanks to FVP drones Russia is also losing them and also IFVs
@SnakePliskin762
@SnakePliskin762 11 днів тому
Difference is the c2 and abrams crews are living to fight another day.
@Coloss92
@Coloss92 8 днів тому
The Abrams' non-admission to the front line is a violation of human rights. Russian soldiers have already issued a mortgage for these tanks. I demand that the tanks be returned to their place and that the violation of international law be stopped!
@travkin8842
@travkin8842 8 днів тому
За натовскую технику нашим солдатам хорошо платят.
@katimboallan4605
@katimboallan4605 10 днів тому
Us told them their Abrams were indestructible as the the 'game changers'
@ClarkGallendez
@ClarkGallendez 11 днів тому
Not just the abrams but all kinds of Tanks are vulnerable to drone attacks.
@slgamer7324
@slgamer7324 11 днів тому
i smell cope
@Nik-xi2ri
@Nik-xi2ri 11 днів тому
Would've helped if you told us 8 months ago
@joniantipolisi4039
@joniantipolisi4039 10 днів тому
now you said it mate. i barely cant hear that opinion last year
@ebiekem
@ebiekem 7 днів тому
Are they now? Oh I remember the hype prior to the counter offensive. "The M1A1, Leopard A2, Stryker, Bradley, etc were in town, so watch out Russia! Turrents will fly sky high!!" Then the counter-offensive offensive began...and Russians began to use their washing-machine-chip-powered shovels blessed in Vodka. First the world's "best" tanks (Leopard 2s) went up in flames, and Bradley Square was created by Russian shovellers. French Armoured vehicles basically ran away with a few now on display in Moscow along with CV-90s. The Challenger 2 then showed up only for 2 to get piped in the bum with Russian shovels; the rest were withdrawn. And now the famous M1A1 Abrahms....apparently they burn pretty well. You folks thought you were fighting a bunch of farmers in sandals. Well, too bad cos its the RUSSIAN FEDERATION. So here's a free advice: Never EVER underestimate the Russian Grizzly Bear armed with a shovel.
@anigmaYT
@anigmaYT 6 днів тому
​@@ebiekemyeah but all those losses are litteral pennies compared to russias
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 8 днів тому
Air dominance then ground dominance, first rule of war.
@righteousbyfaithinChrist
@righteousbyfaithinChrist 11 днів тому
Well, learn and adapt.
@carlbarrett9869
@carlbarrett9869 11 днів тому
Both sides are.
@vlhc4642
@vlhc4642 11 днів тому
Adaptation requires critical thinking and free will, but critical thinking and will will are the enemy of western democracy, hence the mindless rush into minefields and drones and losing half a million troops.
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 11 днів тому
I'm afraid it's too late.
@justatiger6268
@justatiger6268 3 дні тому
Supposedly "all of Russias pre-war inventory of tanks has been destroyed". And yet, they still keep coming with unrelenting ferocity. Perhaps this claim isn't entirely true, eh?
@braxxian
@braxxian 7 годин тому
Who told you that, the MSM? The same MSM that has been lying to you 100% of the time ever since this war started,
@benbo4394
@benbo4394 День тому
The Abram can’t add additional cope cage because it’s already overweight on the Slavic Mud field and is getting bogged down
@myrants5836
@myrants5836 11 днів тому
The problem is with Western tanks none of them have been really truly tested in the theatre of war until now. And now we are seeing their startling vulnerabilities.
@KungFuWizardOfJesus
@KungFuWizardOfJesus 11 днів тому
They have experience war. Problem is that they haven’t experienced modern watergate against a near peer adversary.
@myrants5836
@myrants5836 11 днів тому
@@KungFuWizardOfJesus They haven't experienced a modern war in reality. They've come up against some very old Russian and Iraqi equipment which were no match for them. They haven't experienced a modern army with high tech and drones etc. They are now and they are getting destroyed.
@KungFuWizardOfJesus
@KungFuWizardOfJesus 11 днів тому
@@myrants5836 Iraqi tanks in Desert storm were the best available for a foreign nation. Iraq was ranked 5th best Army at the time. The fact is you cannot use NATO tanks properly without NATO air support and air dominance. Just look at the Number of Russian tanks destroyed, literally hundreds because Russia doesn’t have air superiority.
@Amradar123
@Amradar123 11 днів тому
The issue is not the tanks as theybhave proven themselves to be very capable in Iraq etc.. The issue is drones. And both parties suffer the same issues.
@rogerjensen5277
@rogerjensen5277 11 днів тому
@@KungFuWizardOfJesus Air superiority or not, both sides will take casualties, lots of them! You can use tanks without air support but they are very large, vulnerable targets to air power and artillery!
@RamosSports0810
@RamosSports0810 11 днів тому
OH 💩 Col. McGregor predicted this would happen.
@user-yc4xf8cv5y
@user-yc4xf8cv5y 3 дні тому
The political system in UK is rotten 😂😂😂
@dexterplameras3249
@dexterplameras3249 11 днів тому
The main issue preventing NATO tactics is the minefield. One can't fight ground manoeuvre warfare unless they have punched through or cleared the minefield. The way NATO does that is by ensuring the enemies ability to Observer, Orient, Decide and Act has been destroyed or diminished enough so that ground forces can clear sections of the minefield undisturbed.
@Amradar123
@Amradar123 11 днів тому
Both parties have the same issue. In ww1 it was the machine gun, in this war the drones. Whoever solves that issue will gain the initiative.
@lacdirk
@lacdirk 11 днів тому
NATO's answer would be air dominance.
@MiguelJimenez-hc7ch
@MiguelJimenez-hc7ch 11 днів тому
The victorious , is the one who can sustatin the logistics on war times. Ukraine is losing bad.
@cyber8000
@cyber8000 11 днів тому
Russia seems to have already solved it with 'Turtle' Tanks
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 11 днів тому
MGCS does. If germany can make it quickly that is
@Amradar123
@Amradar123 11 днів тому
​​@@cyber8000"Shoigu's funnies" only work for now in some cases because ukraine is low on artillery shells.
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 11 днів тому
Abrams never in it's 40 year life faced a worthy opponent, feasting on poor farmers and tribesmen. Now, it meets a peer foe and it fails miserably within weeks of its combat debut
@koalabrownie
@koalabrownie 11 днів тому
Where was the tank battle?
@f50koenigg
@f50koenigg 11 днів тому
They are using the M1A1 abrams not the most advance m1a2 sepv3
@yuno1707
@yuno1707 11 днів тому
​@@f50koeniggThey're fighting old russian tanks as well
@photonicemitter9227
@photonicemitter9227 11 днів тому
​@@yuno1707 it is not about tanks fighting against tanks. Abrams is still better then russian scrap metal. But drones can wrek all of them
@aztlan23
@aztlan23 11 днів тому
😂😂😂​@@photonicemitter9227
@jc-xb8ve
@jc-xb8ve 9 днів тому
its not that they won't use combined arms tactics, they don't have the aircraft to do it
@norad6437
@norad6437 9 днів тому
1year ago Russia lost 5800 Tanks now Russia lost 3000 Tanks 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@user-wy9pb5ce2x
@user-wy9pb5ce2x 9 днів тому
😂😂😂😂
@ebiekem
@ebiekem 7 днів тому
The claimed number itself is incredible. Yes, Russia lost a number of tanks. But THREE THOUSAND TANKS??? Now that's grade A bullshyte
@user-hk3pj5xl3u
@user-hk3pj5xl3u 6 днів тому
​@@ebiekem3000 Destroyed Russian Tanks is confirmed, and why are you surprised? Ukraine frontline is like a road from Warsaw to Barcelona, it's huge territory, and Russia has a lot of Soviet tanks, and Ukraine received thousands of Javelins at the beginning, additionally Ukraine first used drones against tanks.
@dk1064
@dk1064 6 днів тому
Western propaganda
@that207guy7
@that207guy7 4 дні тому
​@@ebiekemthere's this thing called Google, use it sometime. It's well over 3 thousand tanks.
@leto2582
@leto2582 11 днів тому
Russia retreating forward Ukraine advancing Backwards 😂😂😂
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 10 днів тому
I guess you could call Meatwave attacks retreating forward
@nikolaibelyk6648
@nikolaibelyk6648 10 днів тому
@@anthonyhulse1248please Provide proof nato bot
@BleedingSnow
@BleedingSnow 10 днів тому
@@anthonyhulse1248 AH yes the Russian Washing machines with shovels using ww1 tactics ghosts, as we can only hear them in word but never see them in video :D
@ThePhantom712
@ThePhantom712 10 днів тому
Whats the count of Russian KIA? At this rate all China has to do to take eastern Russia is to walk over the border.
@kyekyeeminah8734
@kyekyeeminah8734 9 днів тому
​@anthonyhulse1248, well if you call precision bombing with FAB-500 bombs as meat wave attacks, then so be it! Ask yourself why the western media has stopped showing Frontline views? It's not pretty to watch for the NATO bullies!
@Mad2Wlad
@Mad2Wlad День тому
I was thinking abrams is indestructible 🤷‍♂️. Looks like the same with Leopard 2 or Challenger 2.
@546268
@546268 3 дні тому
You can’t fight a combined arms war when you haven’t been supplied with the necessary equipment, like aircraft!!
@wcm8909
@wcm8909 11 днів тому
First of all any tank can be knocked out secondly tanks are an offensive weapon that. The war now is at a stale mate so any tank hanging around the front is going to get picked off eventually.
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 11 днів тому
No stalemate there have been big advances by russia for weeks. A entire ukrainian brigade routed and was disbanded for that
@operator9858
@operator9858 11 днів тому
Stalemate? That would be hilarious if it wasnt so morbidly depressing that so many believe it...
@10.huynhphathuy8
@10.huynhphathuy8 11 днів тому
Stalemate? The Russian just went balls deep lol
@diegoflores9237
@diegoflores9237 10 днів тому
Keep coping
@sushimuncher282
@sushimuncher282 10 днів тому
Stalemate? Oh man, someone get this man a newspaper, ASAP!
@andrewhayes7055
@andrewhayes7055 11 днів тому
What about the rarely spotted Challenger 2?
@olly115
@olly115 11 днів тому
They are literally a drop in the ocean, insignificant in the overall scheme of things
@natacus1234
@natacus1234 11 днів тому
mmm 14 challengers aren't enough but neither is 31 Abrams. Ukrainian tankers are using the challengers to punch through Russian defenses behind tree lines. So far they have managed to escape the drones that the Abrams suffer from. Apart from that one tank I'm not sure what got that chally 2?
@RustyBear
@RustyBear 11 днів тому
they use the chally to snipe and the otherone more in the offense, or thats what it looks like to me
@EnglishScripter
@EnglishScripter 11 днів тому
The weapon the challenger uses is great for range, and the US has been criticizing for ages, but its the reason the challenger is still effective.
@10.huynhphathuy8
@10.huynhphathuy8 11 днів тому
Doubt any of them still working lol
@VCA72
@VCA72 5 днів тому
The tank was state of the art in 1945. It’s really been a relic ever since. If you can’t achieve air superiority and in short bursts air dominance (there is a difference), then you can’t win a protracted war.
@bobwoods1302
@bobwoods1302 2 дні тому
No tank is invincible
@HMSDaring1
@HMSDaring1 11 днів тому
The footage of their Defence Minister in the tank factory just shows how woefully under-armoured we are. Whilst Challenger 2 is excellent, and Ch3 will be even better, 148 units is simply NOWHERE near enough. Even though we're NATO. we must field a credible force to hold the line until reinforcements arrive. 148 CH3's (and all our combined arms assets is simply not enough).
@lascm5237
@lascm5237 11 днів тому
Except as this video demonstrates, tanks are fast becoming redundant on the battlefield, so we need to develop drone technology asap as they are fast becoming more efficient? 🫡🇬🇧🇸🇪🇺🇦
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
@@lascm5237 Western tanks are becoming redundant. Just because the video claims (well repeats Oryx claims) that Russia has lost all its tanks does not mean anyone takes it seriously.
@lascm5237
@lascm5237 11 днів тому
@@antique-bs8bb nope, ALL tanks are becoming obsolete. They are vulnerable, slow, expensive, logistically challenging to actually get to theatre, difficult to maintain particularly in the field and need a supremely well trained and drilled crew. In a word, they are fast becoming obsolete and a relic from both World Wars. They have a limited future if any.
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
@@lascm5237 Top Peer to peer warfare I agree. It is all stand off weapons. But much of the Ukraine war is not peer to peer. Ukraine are very much the weaker side. And the idea that Nato can fight in E Ukraine while supplying itself from 1000km away in Poland is not realistic, so tanks will serve a purpose for Russia (and unfortunately probably for Israel too till they face Iran).
@mr.metallic5310
@mr.metallic5310 11 днів тому
So if photographic evidence is unacceptable to you where do you get your information?​@@antique-bs8bb
@Fkdl12
@Fkdl12 9 днів тому
The US is a paper tiger.
@rizkijunir23
@rizkijunir23 7 днів тому
You mean Russia also?
@sudfac
@sudfac 7 днів тому
Tonight Russians brought damaged M1 Abrams to exhibition in Moscow.
@badguy838
@badguy838 6 днів тому
USA 🏳️‍🌈🤕
@Yourbasicinfo
@Yourbasicinfo 5 днів тому
How about the thousands of tanks Russia lost? Who's the paper lol
@that207guy7
@that207guy7 4 дні тому
​@@sudfacWOW you guys captured a 40 year old tank. Congratulations.
@braxxian
@braxxian 2 дні тому
Abrams have never had to fight in a real war.
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 3 дні тому
Any tank is vulnerable to drone attacks when you have no coordinated air superiority or anti drone measures in place. It aint an Abrams thing, its a tank vs drone thing.
@slippinjimmy2569
@slippinjimmy2569 11 днів тому
What!? According the msm Ukraine are winning 10:1
@Amradar123
@Amradar123 11 днів тому
They do but not by using Abrahms.
@EnglishScripter
@EnglishScripter 11 днів тому
Abrahams is unsurprisingly to most not as effective as the Americans hype it up to be,.
@JayJay-xy5ch
@JayJay-xy5ch 11 днів тому
​@@Amradar123​​@shinji1264 lol, really?. So Ukraine is winning? And now in Moscow? Are you serious?
@koalabrownie
@koalabrownie 11 днів тому
What msm are you watching because they're all saying Ukraine is in danger of losing and desperately needs ammunition.
@codfusilli5879
@codfusilli5879 11 днів тому
In the Vietnam War the North Vietnamese Army never committed their T-55 and PT-76 tanks to the frontline because they knew it was suicide and had no chance vs an American M48A3 tank and Air power! Only on the final days of the war when the US was pulling out of South Vietnam then the tanks came rolling in.
@AlexanderTch
@AlexanderTch 10 днів тому
In Vientnam war Vietnamese always used T-55 , PT-76 and even T-34-85 at front line. T-55 was comletly superior against American tanks of those times. Saigon was taken by T-55 columns attack. T-55 was superior against M48 in all aspects. and Usually americans just ran away. Same as Abrams tanks in this conflict.
@codfusilli5879
@codfusilli5879 10 днів тому
@@AlexanderTch Technically speaking the T-55 has a slight advantage over the M48A3 but American crews were better trained and with superior air support the T-55 can't win. The same with an Abrams Tank crewed by Americans with massive air support no enemy can defeat an Abrams! Any tank or armoured vehicle are sitting ducks without air cover. NVA T-55 and PT-76 appeared in numbers when the US decided to pull out and the Air Force were ordered to stand down.
@AlexanderTch
@AlexanderTch 10 днів тому
@@codfusilli5879 Yes, American tankmen in Vietnam was better trained for sure than Vietnamese tankmen. But Vietnamese were not cowards at all. They didn't run and were always ready sacrifice their lives. So, you statement, about "they ran away when saw M48" is complete fake and your fantasty. And numbers of T-55s in Vietname were much less than American types. Vietnamese even used decent amout of WW2 machines like T-34, Su-100, and IS-2 /IS-3. And they still won. Statement about PT-76 is comletely silly. PT-76 is not actually tank. it's boat with trucks. In areas with lots rivers, swamps, lakes it can be very useful. but it's not suitable for confronation agaist real tank. Americans didn't have total air superirity in Vietnam. You lie. Americans lost 40% of their aviation there. You can visit central park in Khanoi and see remnants of B-52 lying in swamp there. RUssia delivered there all kinds of SAMs. Besides, there were some amount of Mig-21, Mig-19s, Mig-15s. Mig-21 had total superiority against all american types. To destroy Abrams even in case of total air superiorty of the enemy is not very hard once you have at least good ATGMS, drones, artillery. Tank is huge, not maneuverable, easy to detect with hot engine. It's not big deal for a guy with ATGM to burn it. Plenty number of them was burnt in Iraq that even didn't have good ATGMs. So, anyone who wants can burn Abrams. It's not undefeatable and unbreakable whatever you fantasize.
@salahad-dinyusufibnayyub7754
@salahad-dinyusufibnayyub7754 9 днів тому
They didnt deployed it to fight US, because NVA werent supported with tanks to deployed until the end stage of the war. The nature of the war in each stages were different. The early and mid stage were to build up the force and war infrastructure, they relied heavily on infantry to wage guerilla warfare. Only when the time was right, which their enemy severely weaken and their force grow stronger enough to fight conventional warfare, tanks and armor could be effective. There's no point for guerilla force to deploy tanks if you not going to fight conventional battle, and the supply line was still in developing in early and mid stage too so heavy equipments can rarely be transfered south VN. But in the end stage, they did deploy in 1971/1972, at that time ARVN still have US equipment and US air support, so T-55 did have fight with US equipments and air firepower
@manasjena949
@manasjena949 8 днів тому
US Industrial complex will be ruined if losses mount.
@thetryleague7978
@thetryleague7978 7 днів тому
russia - visually confirmed tank losses ~3,000 America - loses 5 donated tanks, of which it has 3,700 in storage This guy: "US Industrial complex will be ruined if losses mount." !!!1!1
@kieffer9705
@kieffer9705 2 дні тому
Even in the rear, Abrams still got spotted and destroyed with one drone.
@mikewingert5521
@mikewingert5521 11 днів тому
Remember Vietnam? America…..All the gear and no idea….
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 10 днів тому
That’s Ruzzia in Ukraine
@Britishempirewillneverdie
@Britishempirewillneverdie 10 днів тому
Literally. Glad someone else realises. They haven't got a clue and their kit isnt as good as they think. Loser paper tiger 'merica.
@maemilev
@maemilev 10 днів тому
Just look at Afghanistan. Clearly the enemy is not afraid.
@Y_hass
@Y_hass 10 днів тому
And remember Afghanistan you commie? That war collapsed the whole soviet union lmao
@thezombiepotato1
@thezombiepotato1 10 днів тому
Lol what? They hid in the hills and gave up the main cities in the firet few weeks. They survived the united states by just giving up meaningful territory for 17 years until policy change brought us home. Oh, and the over 10 to 1 kill ratio in favour of americans does not mirror russia's losses at all lol. We took the "kiev" of afgahnistan and all the other major cities succesfully within a few weeks, russia had to give up most of the terrirtoy it gained in the first 6 months. ​@maemilev
@robertpatrick3350
@robertpatrick3350 11 днів тому
Misleading those are not new tanks…. Those are reconditioned T80’s from reserve stocks.
@tondematongo32
@tondematongo32 3 дні тому
Wonder weapon runs away from the fight....I wonder what those countries buying this very expensive piece of 💩 think now
@douglarse
@douglarse 3 дні тому
All tanks are vulnerable to drone strikes, doesnt matter where they are made.
@10.huynhphathuy8
@10.huynhphathuy8 11 днів тому
NOOOOO, this will affect the sales of abrams
@user-tt6il2up4o
@user-tt6il2up4o 11 днів тому
Turtle tanks are a real game changer compared to M1
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
Desperate 2nd half of video to pretend Ukraine is not losing big time. Do they think we don't know a lot better?
@verdebusterAP
@verdebusterAP 11 днів тому
Abrams isnt as effective as ATACMS
@operator9858
@operator9858 11 днів тому
Can atacms hold the line?
@TheIvanMilky
@TheIvanMilky 11 днів тому
@@operator9858 apparently Abrams can't
@operator9858
@operator9858 11 днів тому
@@TheIvanMilky touche.
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 11 днів тому
yes the russians have better
@verdebusterAP
@verdebusterAP 10 днів тому
@@operator9858 No ATACMS would wipe out that line Ukraine is not going to win this fighting tactically they have to fight strategically Abrams holding the line does nothing In two ATACMS strikes, Ukrainian shredded two Russia airfields. The first strike destroyed 18 helos which cost Russia 10 KA-52s The damage from the second is still unknown but that also was home to Russian gunships That is the kinda of fighting Ukraine needs to do massive asset denial
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 3 дні тому
First, Ukraine denies withdrawing any armor. Second, all tanks are vulnerable to drones. It’s a shift in warfare that welding sheetmetal over the tanks won’t stop
@TyronSmith-yo5tt
@TyronSmith-yo5tt День тому
Air power was only a massive advantage in ww2 when aircraft and even land systems were built in a few hours or a day. Today aircraft take hundreds and thousands of hours to build and an aircraft carrier takes 5 years to fabricate and construct.
@user-tt6il2up4o
@user-tt6il2up4o 11 днів тому
SO THE GAME CHANGER WAS UTTERLY USELESS and a glass cannon.
@spartan7119
@spartan7119 7 днів тому
Well the abrams got the same treatment as those Ts. So you can't really say much, we didn't really even see a tank to tank battle, these attacks against the abrams were drone and missile based attacks. These tanks are dependent on air support, which is something that ukraine lacks. Like every tank they are extremely vulnerable to the enemy if not properly protected, also ofc these tanks got targeted first, it was done to purposely humiliate NATO. All of a sudden you destroy 5 tanks from your most hated enemy and that makes you superior to the enemy. Abrams vs the Ts is like AR vs AK. Though we are yet to see true fair fight between the two.
@UgandanWarriorofHell
@UgandanWarriorofHell 10 днів тому
OOOOOH THE NAFO COPE!
@ICMFX
@ICMFX 10 днів тому
ikr. fools
@lingth
@lingth 2 дні тому
I think the Abrams tank would do well in the Museums, look majestic sitting inside..
@chocolat-kun8689
@chocolat-kun8689 11 днів тому
There goes the record of destroyed by enemy units.
@liamcore7203
@liamcore7203 11 днів тому
Very clumsy and impartial reporting. Ukraine has no possibility of using "combined arms warfare" and has NOT had that option at all. This means, among other things, you have to have an airforce, or at least not be facing 10+ to 1 odds. The other thing you are missing is that the world and warfare is now firmly into the drone age. Until rapid firing radar directed laser weapons are fielded in large numbers, combined with other arms (see how that works?), all vehicles are just going to get pulverized on both sides. If any nation were in Ukraines spot right now, the story would be the same, drones killing expensive tanks.
@JasonHarvey-tt2bi
@JasonHarvey-tt2bi 11 днів тому
American soldiers and weapons are bad ass, Until they face Caucasians 😂
@dmitryrus4184
@dmitryrus4184 8 днів тому
There is no Caucasians in the front line🤷Russkies only.
@paulsteven4551
@paulsteven4551 10 днів тому
based solely on losses basically every piece of equipment can be considered obsolete.
@anigmaYT
@anigmaYT 6 днів тому
F15 104 and 0
@Tee-Ess
@Tee-Ess 10 днів тому
Tanks are not designed to take ATGM hits on the sides, top or rear. That is what some of these drones are. ATGMs that can fly around and strike vulnerable areas.
@newguy954
@newguy954 11 днів тому
If everyone is using "cope cages" despite everyone saying "cope cages" don't work then they do work.
@bushmasterflash
@bushmasterflash 11 днів тому
No tank with a cope cage has ever been knocked out right? "Land is where you are, and so you will carry it around with you." "Dirt. This is a jar of dirt." "Yes." "Is the jar of dirt going to help?" "If you don't want it give it back." "No". "Then it helps."
@JamieS12345
@JamieS12345 11 днів тому
How on Earth do you expect Ukraine to use combined arms tactics when they don't have any NATO-standard aircraft?! If they had F-16s for the counter-offensive last year, they would at the very least have liberated Tokmak, and at most would have cut the land bridge to Crimea. But our leaders dithered. And now all humanity will pay dearly for the long war to follow.
@andrewhayes7055
@andrewhayes7055 11 днів тому
No they wouldn't F16 will be the next "game changer" that fails to deliver.
@rogerjensen5277
@rogerjensen5277 11 днів тому
'All humanity will pay', really? If they had F16s and the necessary infrastructure to maintain them, they would still have been destroyed by the Russians! And no doubt, a few of them would have been delivered to Russia by Ukrainian pilots who realize that their corrupt government uses them as cannon fodder and of course, the Russians will offer a reward for their surrender with NATO equipment intact! Fighting with a gun pointed at the back of your head isn't courage!
@Starstreak170
@Starstreak170 3 дні тому
This is the strip downed version without any of the latest tech. Also, no tank is invincible. Without good training and air support, they're vulnerable.
@tariqramadan1521
@tariqramadan1521 5 днів тому
It’s like fighting an army of orcs and your knights gets slaughtered
@jac9176
@jac9176 10 днів тому
Atleast withdrawal of American Abrams is a news unlike the withdrawal of British tincans called challengers😅😅
@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476
@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476 2 дні тому
5 vs1 lose
@nebitno6955
@nebitno6955 10 днів тому
Every country that ordered them should reject the deal lol
@Ryan_Revier
@Ryan_Revier 3 дні тому
They never beat the Russian like that way if they need to regain back their territories..🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
@gringoamigo8146
@gringoamigo8146 4 дні тому
This has already been denied. They aren't removing the tanks from the fronts.
@truetranny
@truetranny 4 дні тому
Denied by who?
@avex3903
@avex3903 11 днів тому
the amount of braindead nato bots in these comments 💀
@peterstubbs5934
@peterstubbs5934 11 днів тому
LOL, are the Russians suffering MASSIVE armour losses or not IVAN?
@UgandanWarriorofHell
@UgandanWarriorofHell 10 днів тому
@@peterstubbs5934lol the amount of coping you’re going through must be tough. unfortunately, your precious ukraine wont last until 2026 so why dont you go there and fight some orcs, banderite fanboy?
@prenti1205
@prenti1205 10 днів тому
@@UgandanWarriorofHell russia is literally falling apart and they are dying en masse. It will only get worse for them as more aid arrives and aid will keep coming and only incraese. B9 countries are preparing a MASSIVE tank/ifv package for next year.
@peterchaloner2877
@peterchaloner2877 11 днів тому
$10M tank, 50 cent drone-- BOOOM!
@jollyroger8671
@jollyroger8671 6 днів тому
"Never bring your Abrams to a shovel fight." Tsung xu.
@CommanderD1204
@CommanderD1204 6 днів тому
I think the best to use tanks is with the help of air support
@jjsmallpiece9234
@jjsmallpiece9234 11 днів тому
Putin troll comments flooding in
@unreal4010
@unreal4010 11 днів тому
Not really
@jububoobaroo67
@jububoobaroo67 11 днів тому
Well Google has Russian executives in moscow and was started by a USSR born man is it really a surprise criticism of Russia is banned and FSB shills post unmolested?
@nawnaw4709
@nawnaw4709 11 днів тому
Nahh its Just your feeling getting hurt 😅
@krunchie101
@krunchie101 11 днів тому
True😂
@ReichLife
@ReichLife 11 днів тому
Simple minded shills already coping that theirs' beloved Ukraine is doomed.
@nimal18586
@nimal18586 11 днів тому
Challenger now Abraham wonder weapons 😀😀
@EnglishScripter
@EnglishScripter 11 днів тому
Challenger is still effective, too take out the 1 challenger tank, it got hit my a mine, then drones, then artillery strikes. The abrahms are being destroyed by just drones.
@DerMothership
@DerMothership 5 днів тому
So the legendary m1 Abrams is vulnerable to "meat wave-attacks"?
@BladeRunner2021_
@BladeRunner2021_ 4 дні тому
Abrams, invincible.. only in videogames..or against flip flop desert rebels..
@johnnytyler5685
@johnnytyler5685 11 днів тому
Have you seen how Ukraine is using Western armor? This has literally nothing to do with the tanks themselves. When Western countries agreed to send tanks to Ukraine, I GUARANTEE YOU they sent them believing that Ukraine was going to mass ALL OF THEM (Abrams, Challengers, Leopards AND their IFVs like Bradleys, Marders, CV90s, etc) in one spot...likely in the south of the country...and use them all together as a sledgehammer to smash through Russian defenses in one massive offensive push. Instead, Ukraine spread all of them out randomly along a 1,000 km+ front line and is using them exactly like they use their junk Soviet equipment. The footage is available online for anyone to see. You NEVER see multiple Western tanks or IFVs fighting together in a combined force. Instead, you see footage of ONE tank or ONE Bradley out in the middle of a field all by itself shooting at a random target and then retreating. Western countries have never, and would never, use ANY armor like that. Ukraine is just wasting this equipment. They are making good use of Western artillery, HIMARS, Patriots, etc...but they are straight-up wasting Western armor. ESPECIALLY the tanks. Sometime around January of 2023, two Green Berets who went to Ukraine voluntarily to train Ukrainian troops after Russia invaded came back home to the US and wrote an article about the biggest problems the Ukrainians were facing. This was BEFORE Western armor was sent to Ukraine. In their article, they perfectly predicted how Western armored vehicles were going to be wasted by the Ukrainians. They said that NATO countries were doing a fantastic job training Ukrainian troops. The problem? NATO countries WERE NOT TRAINING UKRAINIAN COMMANDERS! So we were training Ukrainian troops in Western military tactics on Western military equipment, then we were shipping these troops and this equipment back to Ukraine where the Ukrainian COMMANDERS were just throwing Ukrainian troops into unorganized mass attacks on Russian positions EXACTLY LIKE the Russians have been doing from day one. Just sending a small group of Ukrainian troops in Western armor straight into a mined Russian area with no air cover, no artillery cover, no backup, no plan, no nothing. Remember early on when the Russians posted video footage of like six or seven Bradleys and three or four Leopard tanks all massed in a pile and abandoned? The Ukrainians did LITERALLY EXACTLY what I just mentioned. Their commander just Leroy Jenkins'd these Western IFVs and tanks straight into a Russian minefield with no plan other than "attack this tree line". As soon as they hit mines and disabled their IFVs, they had no choice but to abandon everything and run away or else they were going to get smoked by Russian artillery. The Ukrainians inside those Bradleys and Leopards survived, and they eventually recovered those abandoned tanks and IFVs, but those pieces of equipment were completely wasted. They did NOTHING. They drove straight into a minefield, got disabled and damaged and then got shipped back to Poland to be repaired. These Green Berets predicted EXACTLY what was going to happen with all of this Western armor, but nobody listened. And apparently nobody bothered to train Ukrainian commanders in Western tactics. People got up-in-arms when Zelensky fired Valerii Zaluzhnyi as the C-i-C of the Ukrainian armed forces back in February because Zaluzhnyi was so well-liked by his troops. But I will bet you anything that firing him was 100% the correct move and it was 100% because he and his commanders were just wasting these Western-trained troops and this Western armor in Soviet-style failed attacks without EVER changing tactics. So the reality is that Ukraine should've kept ALL of these Western tanks parked in a Soviet-era nuclear bunker somewhere safe from day one. They never should've used them to begin with because they were always just going to waste them. This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the tanks themselves. Not Abrams or Leopards or Challengers. Those tanks are GENERATIONS BETTER than ANY tank Russia has. But if you are just going to use them as big armored targets, and the only good they do is keeping the Ukrainians inside of them alive when they are hit by Russian drones or mines or artillery, then what is even the point of having them?
@NoaVanSnick
@NoaVanSnick 11 днів тому
Russian chat gpt?
@doriamvell5386
@doriamvell5386 11 днів тому
Combined strike will face huge counter offensive from russians, because they will knew where it will be. Currently all along the frontline there is separate small fights with followed holding ground, small piece by piece. It's worked in 2022, but not in 2023, and in 2024 it begin fail badly because of lack of equipment.
@antique-bs8bb
@antique-bs8bb 11 днів тому
Sticking them in one spot without air control would have been just a different recipe for disaster from the one that has been cooked. Of course the curious thing that no one wants to recall is how come Russia lined up so much equipment in a row just waiting to be attacked by air in the first few weeks and did not get punished for it? Because a) there was never a real attempt to conquer Ukraine, just to get enough artillery between the Ukraine forces and Donbas to defeat the attack on Donbas; and b) any air attack would have been welcomed and destroyed immediately.
@JJ03330
@JJ03330 11 днів тому
I just saw what you said abou5 concentration of tanks in one direction and I can tell that you must be a mastermind tactician.
@user-mu9ke9ex9f
@user-mu9ke9ex9f 11 днів тому
Wow!!! What an expert! I must have plenty of combat experience. Ukraine must hire you
@julmdamaslefttoe3559
@julmdamaslefttoe3559 11 днів тому
Who could of guessed? Thought they where invincible? Nafo adornists told me it would turn the tide!
@dominique4700
@dominique4700 10 днів тому
That’s a change from Afghan farmers. many weapons were left in Afganistan, he should have also left the Abrahams which would have been used to plow the fields.
@Joel-ew1zm
@Joel-ew1zm 7 днів тому
Any piece of military hardware is only as good as the soldiers using it, as well as the larger picture of support and sustainment. The abrams is a cog in the US military machine, on its own it is just a tank.
@romainvicta3076
@romainvicta3076 3 дні тому
Oh dear it’s almost like all western media was laughing at Russia at the start of the war saying there was no way Ukraine could lose essentially
@TyronSmith-yo5tt
@TyronSmith-yo5tt День тому
Time to bring back fortresses and bulwarks.
@FFL3001
@FFL3001 8 днів тому
wut??? a jet engine easy to see in infrared??? I would have never guessed...
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