I honestly was looking at an M3/M4 car for a bit but the sound was a deal breaker for me. I couldn't live with it day to day.

8000rpm is nuts

Ford needs better launch, seems like 1st gear is kicking his butt

@@anthonytorres7959 he just needs to manage his rpm better. Sounded like he was trying to launch at 4000 or above

Driver is scared bro with an N/A high rpm engine you must dig deep

IMO it's annoyingly and unnecessarily loud

Agreed. Sounds like a Ferrari on steroids.

Sounds like an elephant taking a big shit

@@beardedforlife3740 but a lambo sound good doesn't it? Hypocrite.

@@kidodakid8861 that makes zero sense

Exactly right, love my Shelby, on a 2nd gear 40 roll it's a monster

Is the Shelby a manual too?

@@Nebo600 that’s the only way you can get them, with a MANtran.

@@joelopez5018 please don’t ever say that again

@@Odin851 judging by that response, your parents haven’t showed you how drive a manual transmission. 😏.

Get a great set of tires and bring the Rev's up she'll hook up amazing!

I agree, I own a 350 as well. You have to be obnoxious to get a good start in a GT350. I don't use drag mode much.

For a certified "Track vehicle", "Life begins at 4,000 - everything else is merely 'prelude'. (warmup).

Yet another ‘19 GT350 owner here. It’s a pussycat around town and very manageable. Pump up the revs and hold on!

thats irrelevant since your not launching below that.

I am in the same boat!

Easy choice after testing the M4! Ultimate driving machine is a better driver's car when compared to a Ford mustang imo!

@@nikolayk.3670 THIS ☝🏻 Just do it.

You want to make pony racers cry go with the beemers

@@germanengineering204 Next year's M4 will top the previous year by a lot, making the BMW sorta obsolete each year.

Both cars sound amazing? I only heard the Mustang grrrrrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

@@goochigoochs3836 more like the mustang went BrbrbrbrbrbrbbrrbaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Mustang bogged both drag starts.

The New X Drive competition blows away even the 500 but sadly no manual

@@blackice214 Can you post out of curiosity. The 500 not good out of the hole but the top end is prob. good. What I like on the GT350 is the relatively smooth and BULLETPROOF manual tranny which might be one of the best out there - as opposed to the 5.0 manual, and really all others.

It’s funny because German engineering is so far ahead even the engineers at mustang are some of them are German and worked at bmw

@@alexk3469 lol yeah the launch in the BMW off the line proves it if the mustang didn't bogg down it would be a clean race

BMW had to make a choice based on power range vs TQ, when they sized those twin turbos. Large turbos will make big power -only after they spool up OR they could use smaller to bring in available TQ down lower in the rev range. The usual compromise is twin / smaller, but duel turbos, 6 cylinders have strong tQ by design (that's why 6 cylinders are so often used in trucks)....which is what they probably combined them 6cyl and turbos... made a perfect combination). Ford did the same...to make the power plant to power the explorer police vehicles.... V6 / twin turbos... Ford engineers are pretty good too.

@@JustinAEgan yea and maybe a gt350 with the dct 7 speed and launch control would probably help a little bit now I'm v8 mustang all day and night but I do wonder how the 3.5 high output Ecoboost hasn't been added as an option for this car with that raptor tq. and new exhaust I'd actually like to see one and I wouldn't mind a Barra option either lol

@@JustinAEgan yeah exactly v6 because there not skilled enough to make a inline six

That's just normal, I've only seen one person know how to launch a mustang in general. It's sad but it's "cheaper power" so people buy it without having any actual skill driving. Still sounds good so even if u suck at driving the experience is 🔥

Be interesting to match up Sam with Mat from CarWow...to see who jumps the earliest!

Ur lucky this was a 6 speed m4 non competition non xdrive. Just be happy this channel chose not to embarass mustang owners😂

@user-my4xu4gf1z also not a 350R

@@user-my4xu4gf1z Whats embarrassing is how plain looking that M4 is for what you pay. Its a great car and fast for sure but looks just like a regular 4 series.

Exactly what I was thinking, in a roll the rpm redline is so important!

@@trow5oh239 In a roll it's matching the gear to the sweet spot in the torque curve at the start of the roll.

Hahaha took him to gaplebee’s 😂

Thank you

Yah, was excruciating for me to watch that 5 second bog from a dig each time.

Funny he didn’t give you a like!😂

Even if the driver is a pro, it is still hard to to wing a race with the gt350 from a dig. I have one and the power kicks off around 4k rpm.

@@universalwraps8071 all v8 stangs are hard to launch from a dig. Ford really needs to work on this. It's bloody annoying

@@davothegreat9990 it’s cause he was trying to use launch control. You just launch it unassisted.

BMW consistently underrates their engines, and the Supra.

Let pUt y’all on. Bmw crank number are there actually WheeL horsepower number meaning the crank horsepower is higher

You must also consider the torque curve of the turbocharged engine in the m4.

It's a turbo vs n/a plus you need to be up in the rpm for the Shelby to really go to work

Y'all know there's more to it than just horsepower right?

8,450 REDLINE🤯

@@arf-ko9do no

I own one 2016 white with blue stripes but I feel like jaguar f type r sounds a bit better

@@mma4rum736 it doesn't.

@@ameltjr9802 just my opinion! I no longer have gt350 and now have c7 z06

It smoked the m4 where it really matters,from a roll and it would absolutely destroy it around the track.The m4 isnt a bad car,just not on the level of the 350 and this comes from a guy who usually hate ford product but the 350 is just a masterpiece.

Why? The GT350 can barely hold off a lowly Camaro SS. 8000+ RPM and no VVL in a 3,800 lb car is a bit of a dog. Ford should have put Voodoo $$$ into the Coyote (i.e., VVL, etc.), which would have paid dividends across all of Ford.

@@pope9349 It barely beat the m4 in the roll by not even half a car length and that's without tune. Also, m4 comp does Nürburgring in 7:30 vs GT350R in 7:32, so don't always assume without real data.

@@nikolayk.3670 lmao number based keyboard warriors 😂 bruh I’m just stating the facts on paper. Obviously the gt350 is more of an experience with the tremec 6 speed and the screaming high rev voodoo.

@@MikeyG003 gt350 is 5-year old design car. Comparison with g82 isn't "fair", it was made to be on par with f82, which gt350 eating easily. Moreover, times on nurburgring without all context (tires,drivers,etc.) isn't good comparison as well. And GT350R doesn't have official record of a lap time, it's not legit, though I think 7.32 isn't hard task for it. G82 is incredible car by no means (except the looks, this is just horrendous cheap looking fat crap).

Agreed. He does look a little psychotic with the intensity of that stare but I dig it!

Are you kidding me? Sam is literally the worst manual driver i've ever seen. Have you seen his M4 vs supra video? God awful.

😂🤣 when you grow up! I have an 550i and it's awesome 💯💪

The flat plane crank v8 in the Ford doesn't have the low end torque that the TT I6 in the BMW has. Most mustangs of the S550 platform can't launch for shit unless it's on a prepped surface with the right tire whereas this new G80/G82 M3/M4 has a better ability to put that power down from a standstill.

@@jeron8066 Respect.

@@jeron8066 also bogged down at launch its hard to launch perfectly every time esp if you’re not tryna burn your clutch

@@audiwankenobi361 love the username

He was bogging down first gear in that mustang need a driver mod

it’s refreshing to see someone appreciate a car for it being just what it is and not have a bias

Mustang driver from the dig, needs practice.

Well said man!

It don’t have a higher redline the m4 revs to 8000rpn

@@alexk3469 the g8x tach goes to 8k but the redline is like 7200, gt350 tach goes to 9k but redline is 8250rpm. voodoo has a whole thousand more rpm more than the s58

Comp is auto, not a fair race

Thank you!

Agree! Love the content and the variation. I am beyond tired of seeing the new BMW racing the new Porsche. No one even buys those cars... Sam gets it.

It’s a rwd

The M4's front end is hideous!

​@@davemillan5082 so is mine

Won’t lie, it was

What's wrong with yall americans only caring about sound sound doesn't help the car win😑

@@nicolasmigabo well the gt350 is faster in a straight and track race so why not pick shelby?

@@nicolasmigabo mustang won plus sounds good plus not gay like BMW

@@mimioize1634 Ford is step-down from bmw

@@valeriysyutkin4940 BMW is for people who dont like aka rich kweers

From what I've seen every review where they race them the m4 beats them lol

The 350 has no tq down low. That’s the issue.

@@TheCdM1981 unfortunately not many people understand nuance.

That’s what I thought he either missed a shift or just didn’t know how to properly launch I know that 350 Would’ve stayed even or a bit in front , but the M4 still a cool car

@@ericknava9627 Definitely not a driver issue. 350 is not a 1/4 mile car and no driver is going to make it one. 1/4 is the only place the BMW can keep up, though.

i love mine and wouldn't change it for anything

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​@Adonis D thanks so much for your email so far and sorry I didn't work on the west side or the day after that you were going out with the family

What book do u have huh?

@@anthonycraig2079 One that's above your level of comprehension!

Currently I do not own a vehicle. Still shopping. Last car I owned as a Focus RS

@@SamCarLegion oh I see. Well you get to drive so many of them so this is great. Love your channel! My son and daughters watch your channel together and they all love it too.

07 TL Type-S is slow....it's a 101 mph trap car.

I second this comment I love the 3rd gen tl

Cap

@@NATURALGAMING 2018 GT350 / 2021 M4 - stop hating...

@@csouthwell9180 cap

I heard it too need launch that thing like 5,500 rpm ain’t nobody home below 4k

Haha that's true

In German AUTO BILD Sportscar magazine the dynoed a M4 Performance (510 hp stated) with 522 hp. So this one should have nearly 500hp I think.

So does Ford on the Mustangs

Just bmw has a better take off

@@SamCarLegion imagine if mustang gets better launch. Probably orbits into space

Mustang runs Michelin pilot super sports from factory, they suck for drag racing it needs better tires to put down all that power how do I know, I have a 760 HP Camaro and have ran multiple tires

By the sound of the exhaust the mustang definitely bogged way down... very low rpms.

The bmw turbo low end torque push the bmw from start the mustang is n/@ means he got the torque and power on high thats why on roll the n/a engine have much better reaction because he already in the powerband.

Coming

Can you do race between TLX Type-S vs Kia K5 GT

2.0t Fusion would get smoked. Now the 2.7t Fusion on the other hand.... That's a much different story.

@@jefff6884 probably the 2.7t would be very close with the accord 2.0t

@@SamCarLegion and is it possible to do race between Kia Optima SX-Limited 2.0t and Ford Fusion 2.0 ecoboost?

A 10 speed Mach 1 would beat the M4 easily

@@davemillan5082 M4 manual, maybe. M4 with a DCT, I doubt it.

And all the drag racers say that real races are from a dig.

True. But starting from 0 is like when ur at a red light. Side by side . Few other scenarios but for me I drive on a open highway for 25 minutes to get to work and I usually beat the comp

BMW front end........ugly!