ForGG (T) vs Free (P) on Blitz Y. Want to support ArtosisCasts? / artosis I'm probably LIVE right now, check me out: →Twitch: / artosis
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@markrik1Місяць тому
I remember making ForGG laugh by calling him FroGG in his chat
@joaocaju3061Місяць тому
FroGGe
@christopherbennett117329 днів тому
I remember him for blowing up all his medevacs against stepahano. Good times
@-LocoBolon28 днів тому
I think we all thought he was called Frog-gg or something like that at some point
@noblehelium379426 днів тому
Free attacks his own nexus at 11:51, seemingly to prevent all the interceptors from going back into the carriers and taking longer to redeploy. He does it again at 13:23 to pre-deploy the interceptors before going to attack the tanks.
@sulik682Місяць тому
Feel like if he'd known JUST how low patches protoss had at the end he could have stuck around. But hard to say he should have known that somehow. Imagine if he'd picked off that 9:00 base just 30-60 seconds sooner.. that lost mining would have been that many less interceptors availble, likely gg earlier!
@nesssixteen6106Місяць тому
That + I feel like he over extended towards the end. Goliaths didn't trade as efficiently once they were getting surrounded by probes. They'd have been massively out scaled by the large number of SCVs.
@Redkasquirrel27 днів тому
I totally agree, if hed known that the carriers were actually unable to completely fill up a final time with interceptors he might have hung on and made just a few more goliaths with the long distance mining. But he would have needed probably two full rounds of goliaths to fight the remaining interceptors, and Free would have used his remaining ~10 probes or so to long distance mine from the 3rd on the highground most likely. Hard to know.
@seraphimconcordantМісяць тому
I think Forgg could have continued there. Free was completely out of money at his 3rd and would have had to long-distance mine. Forgg had I think 3-6 or so Goliaths at home and was producing more. That is enough to hold off the 15 or so interceptors that were left.
@NoSleepWibloМісяць тому
HAHAHA. Sure
@FlokiTech29 днів тому
Seems like if he had lifted his main base to the third base as soon as possible he would have won if he just kept producing a second army
@aniapersa345427 днів тому
no
@dampiereМісяць тому
Excellent game. Had me completely invested. GG ForGG! Thanks for bringing us this one RT!
@depot-lb8hlМісяць тому
Whenever I see these swarms of interceptors, I feel a bit mad that valkyrie splash doesn't hit them. Ah, well, good game.
@spltorky14 днів тому
I think it would balance things out very nicely. As it stands, once protoss gets carriers to a certain number, you have to be insanely good and lucky at the same time to win
@perfectman307711 днів тому
@@spltorky oh hell no. How would that be balanced?
@16caractereMax29 днів тому
Wow, I wasn't ready for so much suspense! GG !!
@meguemil8542Місяць тому
That game was so insane!!! Such a rollercoaster. I thought Free was gonna lose, then win, then lose. Thank you for the cast, Artosis!
@tatz3000Місяць тому
Wicked game. Carriers vs Goliaths always seems like such an uphill fight.
@TuEIiteМісяць тому
Great casting, RT!
@_Wai_Wai_Місяць тому
liking your posts and your game analyses.
@tonyc2909Місяць тому
No one else is like you . I like your commentary. Professional with enough of Gamer Fuckins bro. I will follow you for just that you are humble and oome from the 80 and higher i dig it.
@WestSeaSpiritМісяць тому
ForGG was always super nice to me whenever I went to his Twitch stream! Best wishes to him and great game!
@Shield_BatteryМісяць тому
danggggg that map so rough, only way to get carriers with only gols is through positioning to corral them rather than be led by. on blitz there's that huge space north and south of main platform so you have to make decision of staying on walkway, forcing them deeper into your base on top of your infrastructure, or walking around, opening up the walkway to escape. best take away is Free has a scary good poker career in the wings when he decides to hang it up. pulling probes to body block vision of his bottoming out mineral lines, bluffing strength by obscuring vision with his empty stacked among the handful of carriers with 1-2 interceptors, bluffing as if the carriers were making or waiting to make, even though we saw the carriers didn't make, and wouldn't make.
@RickJankowski9229 днів тому
This ForGG micro slipped a lot there at the end, i think it was winnable
@liveandjaphappyМісяць тому
Gotta scout for cheeky expansions!
@arturkaczan177629 днів тому
just wow, I enjoyed
@phoenixlichМісяць тому
I was subbed to Forgg for a long time on twitch, he was a very enjoyable streamer to watch and very friendly too.
@arisonaicedout4357Місяць тому
Always cheered on ForGG throughout the years, 2010s and 2020s. It would be a dream if he made it into ASL someday!
@violetrecluseМісяць тому
That was rad!!
@wrench24629 днів тому
That was nuts
@Fanelan053Місяць тому
Very good game love seeing the carriers come out and have that interaction between Tara and protoss we just don't know!
@John-hp2hgМісяць тому
1:30 From what I know, Koreans can have a twitch account, they just won't be monetized and payed by Twitch Korea, as they longer exist. I still see Korean streamers bypassing this by linking their donation accounts to Paypal.
@loveboatМісяць тому
I remember when internet was global.
@dylaninnes8541Місяць тому
That was awesome
@MattLyteМісяць тому
ForGG fought so well against the carriers but that base at 9 just kept Free ahead, painful but interesting to watch. Thanks Arty!
@rye2Місяць тому
I have never seen someone sac a carrier like that. unheard of until now
@CoolEtCeteraМісяць тому
fOrGG is a Legend for the game down here "MSL Semifinals Flash vs fOrGG 1Set" - July 17, 2008
@linkinpork752129 днів тому
That whole run was insane. Beat a very strong Protoss in Kal, then 3-1 Flash in the semis and then swept Jaedong in the finals.
@CoolEtCetera28 днів тому
@@linkinpork7521 Thank you I had forgotten the context, of that specific game
@beaustebbings6968Місяць тому
I love when SC2 players come back to Brood War. I remember watching ForGG back in the day.
@513polloМісяць тому
Damn good game. Forgg will be one to watch if he keeps it up.
@cooleosis1Місяць тому
fucking nice. i was watching forgg wreck everyone in sc2 right up to the korean twitch ban. his multi tasking and multiple simultaneous attacks were so ridiculously good, hope that'll translate back to sc1
@joelarcher2691Місяць тому
Nailbiter! What an awesome game
@UCfjZmDYoZY3laj2mfiinm7gc29 днів тому
Nice game with sad ending
@GASHPANМісяць тому
So close. GG for the For
@VoxAcies17 днів тому
Back in Kespa days ForGG wasn't the most exciting player, but he's unique that's for sure.
@joebazooksМісяць тому
soooo close
@AkhilJariwala29 днів тому
Epic
@stefanc4520Місяць тому
Oh snap that's a name I haven't heard in a LONG time. What was the other nickname he played under I forgot! Also I thought Twitch just shut down due to operational cost not making it worth it to host servers there, I don't know anything about an actual government ban...
@tdring10681Місяць тому
I don't remember what ForGG played as before but I think the issue for Twitch in Korea was that they were getting charged more for bandwidth then AfreecaTV or something like that.
@@tdring10681 South Korea has a "sending party network pays" (SPNP) system, where ISPs get paid both by the customers they deliver traffic to and by the company sending the data (e.g. Twitch). This is in addition to the money the sender pays their own ISP to get an uplink to the internet. As a result, Korean ISPs have also begun forcing foreign content providers that same fee, or an even higher fee, which makes it unprofitable for them to operate in Korea. And it gets even worse. In South Korea, it is the responsibility of content providers to ensure durable access to their content, not the responsibility of the ISP. Apparently, even after Twitch reduced bandwidth in Korea (max 720p resolution), it was still losing money hand-over-fist. This was somehow supposed to reduce costs on the consumer, but the opposite has happened. South Koreans now pay much more than they did in 2016 for similar data, and their mobile data is among the most expensive in the world. Honestly just a terrible policy, and unfortunately Twitch is hardly the only service that's going to leave Korea or seriously degrade its quality there.
@mettataurrМісяць тому
nice game. wb forgg
@linkinpork7521Місяць тому
Twitch voluntarily exited the Korean market due to low profits. Don't think they ever faced a ban there. Do you have a source?
@ArtosisCastsМісяць тому
they weren't banned. the ISP's increased their fees to ridiculous levels.
@claykorth7244Місяць тому
wow
@PvP-iw6dv27 днів тому
does anyone know where I can find Forgg's stream now that twitch is down in korea?
@-raist25 днів тому
Afreeca forgg1
@SamBElevenCМісяць тому
Is there ever any world in which you add valk vs carrier?
@gippygames29 днів тому
No, because carriers have 4 base armor, and interceptors are immune to valk splash damage. Pros have tried every theoretical counter, and mass gols is the best answer.
@lockdown969Місяць тому
I’ve still never seen goliaths beat carriers. Ever. In the hundreds of pro games I’ve watched. Maybe someday 😅
@ManCubuSSCМісяць тому
I don't understand why he left BW couple years ago when he got qualified for ASL once and couple times for KSL. If he continued practicing he could reach deeper runs, he really needed to ditch SC2, I mean you can't switch from SC2 to BW and then back to SC2, that never works and some players are "made" for BW. Just like FanTaSy who never accomplished something in SC2, but cameback, practiced a few games and took out Bisu and JD on Saudi tournament and then vanished again...
@cl880429 днів тому
PROOOOOTOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@LappmogelМісяць тому
Damn what a game. I think terran gg'd to soon. Float his main cc to minerals he was long distance mining and build a vulture or two to kill of long distance mining or force the toss to split his forces.
@tonyc2909Місяць тому
Dont you ever cough in the microphone in my face , i cannot take it man! Enjoy your solo review fuck Artosis lol jik I love you man keep it up!!
@skyvipersМісяць тому
Goliath's need another upgrade called: "Valkyrie AOE Missiles" to deal with Interceptor swarms lol
@derekbutts2660Місяць тому
Or just build valks?
@Fabinos93Місяць тому
Interceptors are immune to aoe...
@skyvipersМісяць тому
@@Fabinos93 Valkyrie Air-to-Air Missile Splash (3x3) doesn't affect? You're saying that using Valks against Interceptors only damages one at a time per volley? Never seen it happen so I honestly don't know.
@skyvipersМісяць тому
@@derekbutts2660 Probably can't pump out enough with Double Star Port to counter carriers, but multiple Factories can mass Gols
@D3Z3R7Місяць тому
It's true, yes. So even after the remaster made valks usable at all, they're really only viable as a (supplemental) counter to zerg air mass.
@513polloМісяць тому
Spoiler alert Baffling. Protoss wins because the probes needed to back up the carriers. …The freaking PROBES
@AVioletMelodyМісяць тому
did audio cut out for anyone else?
@n00b1n8R29 днів тому
5muGG
@ObeliskMМісяць тому
Protoss sees a lot of goliaths, only 2 tanks... then keeps building carriers instead of gateway units and reavers to crush terran army. Why?
@bartonfangМісяць тому
b/c 2 tanks can literally hold forever.
@Virtua..Місяць тому
Dunno why he didn't push in earlier. Playing scared vs cars is stupid,
@pivorscМісяць тому
ForGG said he gona starve when twitch will leave Korea, is he ok now?
@loveboatМісяць тому
He ded
@kbformeМісяць тому
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@kbformeМісяць тому
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@undeniablyfunk5497Місяць тому
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@kbformeМісяць тому
@@undeniablyfunk5497Understood.
@bobjackson4287Місяць тому
Stop building gols and tech switch. It's never cost effective to try and win Carrier vs Gol. At the very least get EMP + Matrix
@attention_shoppingМісяць тому
xd
@karpai5427Місяць тому
Terran could win if he didn't surrender.
@FlymanMSМісяць тому
Moral victory for Terran.
@tastethejace21 день тому
No such thing. Moral victories are losses. Defeats. You win nothing.
@phamnhat2925Місяць тому
ForGG is an interesting case because he went absolutely bonkers for one tournament, beating both Flash and Jaedong, who were already Starleague winners back then, and then became mediocre for the rest of his career.
@hitler69Місяць тому
20 years later terrans still trying to use goliaths against carriers
@henrikasmasian8226Місяць тому
Starcraft 1 is soo hardcore that i dont even play starcraft 1. I play sc2 as its more fun better and not hardcored
@arturkaczan177629 днів тому
please replace IIIIIIIIII name with real names
@yangpaan453Місяць тому
i see 2nd comment wasnt taken, so i will take it now 2nd
@Plasmax-jp6pmМісяць тому
3rd not gay
@hellotheremyolfriendМісяць тому
lol
@swampybwoyМісяць тому
4th gay
@undeniablyfunk5497Місяць тому
Are you my long lost son Ronaldo fink?
@albertsanmiguel8922Місяць тому
first to comment!
@zeheeroМісяць тому
This was a stupid game, the protoss ape just makes carriers and wins...
@thoughtpolease7183Місяць тому
I agree that it is more manly to just make siege tanks and win
@zeheeroМісяць тому
@@thoughtpolease7183 I guess you didn't watch the game. Typical Ape.
@RyanJ14115Місяць тому
ARTOSIS PLEASE RESPOND AT END OF GAME WHAT IS CORRECT RESPONSE FORGG TARGET CARRIER OR INTERCEPTORS ?