From Holden to Gryphon (The Redemption of Holden Cross)

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Raven Knight

Raven Knight

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I've talked quite a lot about Astrea and Apollyon and the Horkos Order, but I haven't talked much about the other side...particularly one of my favorite characters in the For Honor story. I want to talk about Holden Cross, or Grpyhon as he's now known.
I think there's more to Gryphon than many assume. It's easy to hate on the guy because his move set in game and playstyle is so broken and he's caused many players a lot of grief...but I believe that this is tragic because Holden is honestly such a fascinating character. I really want to take some time to discuss WHO Holden is...What he stands for...What he fights for...Why he fights at all. Who is this lion who became a Gryphon?
I do hope ya'll enjoy. Please leave a comment and a like! Don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already. I always am happy to hear from ya'll.
I'll see ya'll, in my next video!
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 304
@LuckyRider-wh1wr
@LuckyRider-wh1wr 3 роки тому
Looking at this video made me realize, the story mode of for honor is the only time in recent media I've seen, in the end the villain wins
@LuckyRider-wh1wr
@LuckyRider-wh1wr 3 роки тому
Also congrats on 7k subs
@Callsign_Bear
@Callsign_Bear 3 роки тому
Apollyon might have died, but in the end, she was right: They would all fight. More would die. The cycle would repeat itself
@MeisterSchwabbo
@MeisterSchwabbo 3 роки тому
And ultron from Avengers... he also have won. Same with thanos in infinity war and baron zemo from civil war
@beserker559
@beserker559 2 роки тому
Ardyn and Kefka from final fantasy also won
@him1517
@him1517 2 роки тому
yep. The entire game is what happens after.
@GeistDrachen
@GeistDrachen 3 роки тому
Ironic how Astrea is trying to act more like Apollyon but Gryphon actually experiences what she went through and in the end is more like her than Astrea ever will be.
@MeisterSchwabbo
@MeisterSchwabbo 3 роки тому
Maybe thats the plan... but i don't think Elise the story writer knows how to make a good story, with twists
@Wayofswords
@Wayofswords 3 роки тому
@@MeisterSchwabbo the end is nieh thought Holden's character development is better than most and that cross is better man through it all
@mothman6380
@mothman6380 2 роки тому
Well Apollyon was like Holden she was a woman of honor of creed of chivalry but her trauma as a child the raid of her home the rape murder and plunder of her friends and family shaped her she found peace could not exist in world where what she experienced was possible then it would be unexplainable barbarism and have no place in the world she found honor and chivalry and peace to be false a blanket to comfort the weak that would sit idle as the strong died for them she believed in a black and white point of view that the strong were serving the weak she then in return subjugated and punished the weak to bring out the strong Among them asters rages war on the weak she believes that all who are not wolves must die Apollyon didn’t believe that she thought all the weak pretending to be strong must die she believed they had a proper place and was trimmed those that stepped out of line she saw the world through all factions not just knightly ideals and she used that for her purpose of showing the world her truth and now Holden has traveled the world once a man of honor creed and chivalry but instead of a soul haunted and twisted into a demon by trauma he’s now a man of redemption he was a lawbringer who broke his code and now searches to uphold peace and redeem himself of the demon he let himself become he changes his armor language beard to try and find who his is he’s not Holden he’s gryphon but he doesn’t know who gryphon is he wants no recognition he wants peace and atonement the difference between between him and Apollyon is instead of fighting to bring out the strong and show the world of his truths or ideals to justify atrocities that shouldn’t be allowed in a world of peace he fights to end such atrocities so peace may come one day he seeks his redemption not an explanation Astrea fights in the visage of Apollyon for her on corruption of Apollyons ideals and her betterment she has no excuse besides her gain she’s a sheep in wolves clothing nothing more nothing less she has no conviction only the goal of war for the sake of killing the weak not to give a point or show the world a ugly truth but to kill and spread corruption she’s not a devil like Apollyon was or Holden once was she’s a infestation of rats spreading a plague for their own gain
@marianomaza8941
@marianomaza8941 2 роки тому
Many people hate on astrea, you know, its hard to cover such a large shadow. Still she is a wolf herself after all she has defeted zanhu and other enemies exept for olden cross
@spookeg5812
@spookeg5812 2 роки тому
@@marianomaza8941 exactly people are more likely to chose what came before than whats present like old heads will always say old rap was better than current rap. Apollyon left some massive shows to fill but i feel there is some bias against Astrea
@merkavamkivm3373
@merkavamkivm3373 3 роки тому
"From Holden to Olden"
@tomjohnston4218
@tomjohnston4218 3 роки тому
Olden becomes balden
@nikkiray2515
@nikkiray2515 2 роки тому
I hate both of you
@merkavamkivm3373
@merkavamkivm3373 2 роки тому
@@nikkiray2515 same.
@tomjohnston4218
@tomjohnston4218 2 роки тому
Ok
@PatrikPavic
@PatrikPavic 2 роки тому
From holden to monke
@redlightu
@redlightu 2 роки тому
Man, times like this make me wish Ubisoft expanded more on the story and characters of For Honor, instead of giving us short and vague descriptions through Events or tidbits.
@Kurt20051YT
@Kurt20051YT 2 роки тому
Ikr, just think how cool it could've been if the story was a lot longer and if we got story expansions with dlc heroes, imagine playing Shinobi or BP in thier own story.
@CamoFlash7_
@CamoFlash7_ 2 роки тому
@@Kurt20051YT My thoughts exactly.
@zereth2792
@zereth2792 2 роки тому
i actually didnt like the story at first but these new characters with their origins made me fucking love it. the whole thing with Apollyon seemed so stupid but when this guy made a video about her and astrea she easily became one of my favorite video game villains and stories of all time
@For_the-Emperor
@For_the-Emperor Рік тому
That would involve creativity which ubi is not about. They are about cutting corners and making unfinished projects but charge full price for them.
@zackerymathiad5075
@zackerymathiad5075 Рік тому
As a dark souls player I dont mind it to much
@frederickcrow9046
@frederickcrow9046 3 роки тому
With each season we see how right apollyon was.
@_mass_477
@_mass_477 3 роки тому
The redditors... SAVAGES!!!
@russian_knight
@russian_knight 2 роки тому
Realistically, there is no way that heathmoor could ever have true peace.
@TasBWyattay
@TasBWyattay 2 роки тому
Apollyon is the true protagonist
@nathankelly5976
@nathankelly5976 2 роки тому
Wait I just realized that she is correct but peace can be achieved via war if you conquer everyone then all you got to do is deal with inserection ists
@agentc7020
@agentc7020 Рік тому
Well, we only see how right she was because she worked real hard to be right.
@phoenixlord2454
@phoenixlord2454 3 роки тому
Holden is the whole reason I main Lawbringer, his ideals and actions resonate with me. Watching this has merely increased my resolve.
@rvxnge7491
@rvxnge7491 2 роки тому
Same
@droidattackonthewookies2277
@droidattackonthewookies2277 2 роки тому
same. after watching this it makes me even prouder to be a lawbringer Main
@v9tadpole2.02
@v9tadpole2.02 2 роки тому
Same two button for combo and fainted heavy is a pretty nice resolve
@e7dj29
@e7dj29 2 роки тому
what if i told you........ONE OF MY MAINS IS ASTREA
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR Рік тому
@@e7dj29 Well, we will just say "GUN KAI!" to you.
@rogue9898
@rogue9898 3 роки тому
“Are we the baddies?”
@wolfwalker4585
@wolfwalker4585 3 роки тому
Simply sick. This made it way easier to understand gryphs/Holdens origins. I can imagine Apo cheering Chimera on, and maybe even Holden himself, to gut the impostor Astrea.
@derriquethefreak1820
@derriquethefreak1820 2 роки тому
I don't think she would be cheering them on, but simply saying my true wolves will kill the sheep in wolves clothing
@logeyperogi1805
@logeyperogi1805 2 роки тому
Apollyon’s spirit returns from beyond the veil of death and battles Astrea That’d be a cool event
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR 2 роки тому
@@logeyperogi1805 Indeed
@deusvultcunt5786
@deusvultcunt5786 2 роки тому
I know why he was surprised by her sparing the viking but him saying “including davis” will never not make me shout out “NO NOT FUCKING DAVIS!!”
@thediamondcutter9185
@thediamondcutter9185 10 місяців тому
"Noo! Not Lenny!"
@miimiibeschde4818
@miimiibeschde4818 9 місяців тому
"THEY KILLED DAVIS" "YOU BASTARDS"
@Ninjorsta
@Ninjorsta 3 роки тому
Gryphon is more apollyon than Astrea will ever be
@biffdakid
@biffdakid 2 роки тому
Astrea: cries in war mommy Holden: laughs in gryphon
@shopdu9116
@shopdu9116 2 роки тому
I actually really liked gryphon. Aside from the fact that he was broken at launch, I liked how he went on this journey and made friends and allies from all factions and possibly more. I love how he came back more like Apollyon then Astrea ever will be. How the only thing he wanted was to protect Ashfeld but grew a more open mind and decided to explore the other cultures.
@morte2504
@morte2504 2 роки тому
I like to think Apollyon wanted to teach Heathmoor to fight people like Astrea.
@derriquethefreak1820
@derriquethefreak1820 2 роки тому
Absolutely, astrea might not be weak physically, but she is by far one of the weakest characters mentally in the story. She didn't want 2 sides fighting,she wanted the factions to fight each other.
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
yeah an emo wannabe isnt a flex at all
@martintemplar3620
@martintemplar3620 3 роки тому
I just want you to admit, WHAT. YOU. ARE... my... wolves
@Nekomon.
@Nekomon. 2 роки тому
3:14 THIS! The for honor lore may sometimes have it's flaws in writing's but him originally thinking such a close minded point of view to becoming basically mr worldwide and incorporating many other cultures/factions into his repertoire of skills and language. I like this parallel cause it shows his growth as a character and made him interesting, even if he is annoying to play against in game.
@hanoli7933
@hanoli7933 2 роки тому
"ugh fine... I guess you are my little wolf, come here" Thats all i can think of now that i finished the story mode
@johanwilliamsvonrotesfeuer645
@johanwilliamsvonrotesfeuer645 Рік тому
Thank you
@WinterKlyfox
@WinterKlyfox 3 роки тому
Though I don't like Gryphon. You have to admit the idea for holden isn't a bad one.
@williamvalorious4403
@williamvalorious4403 2 роки тому
Holden as a character himself is neat, the actual gameplay of said class is well question in terms of balance
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR Рік тому
@@williamvalorious4403 He is far from strong.
@confusedravioli2556
@confusedravioli2556 Рік тому
@@FullAdDariusBR Now? Balanced. On release? Busted. Always remember to check when a comment was posted.
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR Рік тому
@@confusedravioli2556 Gryphon never was busted, his shove was ass weak and his moveset was decent, but far from OP, the only OP stuffs was the delayed dodge attack (but since back then his block recovery was dumb huge, meaning he cannot block hyper armored heavies), feat 2 AOE and heal and feat 3 speed, damage, heal and AOE. His shove was "strong" because of the Option select input, as opener the shove was bad. Gryphon need buffs, he cannot compete against the actual characters, he is too far behind.
@bluven508blaze3
@bluven508blaze3 3 роки тому
Now this....is what I wanted to know about Holden Cross and how he became the Gryphon
@juanpablocota9083
@juanpablocota9083 3 роки тому
This video made me like more the character of gryphon
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
you killed my tongue
@TheAvgCrusader
@TheAvgCrusader 3 роки тому
Holy Jesus - Amazing video Raven! I really hope this gains the traction that the Apollyon vs Astrea video did. It's a fantastic summary of Holden Cross and his continuing story as Olden Cru- I mean Monke- I mean... Gryphon... -that I still find so fascinating.
@carmid7199
@carmid7199 2 роки тому
What did you call me? Cause I think I heard monke
@c4ho0t53
@c4ho0t53 2 роки тому
@@carmid7199 lol
@-M_-
@-M_- 2 роки тому
@@carmid7199 you are now my man, you were cool, but now you want banana
@raw_ritz24
@raw_ritz24 3 роки тому
Yo this was great, I would like one about Daubeny but feel like there’s not enough information
@halfcarnage6259
@halfcarnage6259 3 роки тому
Mabey thru the comming seasons since hes now Chimeras leader
@raw_ritz24
@raw_ritz24 3 роки тому
@@halfcarnage6259 then I shall wait
@-M_-
@-M_- 2 роки тому
He made recently a video about him
@warlockengineer
@warlockengineer Рік тому
For honor deserves a fleshed out open world rpg
@powerpope9213
@powerpope9213 3 роки тому
Ok, i just gotta say this: I've searched for a long time now on the internet for a good quality yt channel with For Honor content and here we are. I must say raven, you are doing your job very nicely. I love this channel (even if i don`t know stuff about Warhammer 40k). I espacilly love those story vids where you in-depth describe For Honor characters, and i hope there are more to come. Anyways, keep up the good work and see ya in another video!
@Wiseonebk
@Wiseonebk Рік тому
If we weren't so focused on multiplayer issues, we don't realize the gem of a game we have.
@deenajmeri9440
@deenajmeri9440 3 роки тому
This entire video about monkey brain is very fascinating, good stuff.
@rockwoodzapper
@rockwoodzapper 2 роки тому
Something I feel needs to be addressed is how much of an insult Astrea's entire person is to Holden. She idolizes, glorifies and mimicks Apollyon as an outside observer, not just in person but ideology. Apollyon still had honor of a sort, and the weak who were willing to accept that they were weak would be protected under her. Astrea simply kills, indiscriminately. Seeing this sick, twisted mockery of Apollyon - I couldn't imagine it doing anything other than pissing Holden off. And now he has the opportunity to do what he should have done against the real Apollyon.
@diegopasha5607
@diegopasha5607 3 роки тому
Holden Cross.... The man who seek a path to move forward
@superraijinsage746
@superraijinsage746 2 роки тому
The answer lies... In the heart of battle
@miimiibeschde4818
@miimiibeschde4818 9 місяців тому
The solution was becoming a monke
@mochathought
@mochathought 3 роки тому
Know if only his gameplay represented this
@Silly_The_Killer
@Silly_The_Killer 3 роки тому
maybe he is monke to the eye of many but in our hurts he will stay holden cross
@poyrazacar183
@poyrazacar183 2 роки тому
Great work as always Raven! But I'm still curious about The Warden. I know he disappeared but I want him to come back and save everyone from Astrea.... That would be a good ending for him.
@derriquethefreak1820
@derriquethefreak1820 2 роки тому
He just comes in and cuts off astreas hand right when she is about to gut holden like a fish.
@apollyon3331
@apollyon3331 2 роки тому
One day I want to make a film about for honor. And if I ever even get close I want to feature a part in the film where Holden cross or gryphon is on astreas doorstep. It's a reimagining of apollyon waiting for Holden once again, gryphon is ready and a bit cocky. He thinks he will wipe out what's left of horkos how he wiped out almost all the blackstones. But the twist isn't that the warden came back the save gryphon that's to predictable. I want them to reveal at some time in the fight that the warden died long ago while he/she was on there soul search. Some horkos enforcers and astrea jumped him and tried to convert him but he stood steadfast and died fighting. Any hope gryphon had of wardens return is shattered leaving him emotionally open and unguarded alowing astrea to strike back. I'm obsessed with this crap.
@MeisterSchwabbo
@MeisterSchwabbo 2 роки тому
@@apollyon3331 i fully agree, it sounds cringe but a friend of me loves to roleplay in fh and i play with him.
@apollyon3331
@apollyon3331 2 роки тому
@@MeisterSchwabbo naw it's awesome bro. The lore in this game is actually quite interesting once enough research is put in.
@MeisterSchwabbo
@MeisterSchwabbo 2 роки тому
@@apollyon3331 i agree, it is one of the last games where the lore actually interests me, i don't like Lord ramiel but the rest is great
@rocco1626
@rocco1626 3 роки тому
For law bringer I’m still waiting for his arm armour I like the shoulders. I believe shoalin thought him most because Monke
@theunknownadvocate7632
@theunknownadvocate7632 2 роки тому
Well done, you perfectly explain Apollyon's and Holden's philosophy. The lore behind For Honor is amazing.
@tannerfinney8211
@tannerfinney8211 2 роки тому
I have to say, although the dialogue was bad and some Of the cutscenes being a bit janky - This was a very interesting and new take on story telling for Ubisoft
@tekenaamamina273
@tekenaamamina273 7 місяців тому
This video is amazing. I wish you'd do more of this type of videos
@tekenaamamina273
@tekenaamamina273 7 місяців тому
This video is amazing. I wish you'd do more of this type of video
@the_smittuation
@the_smittuation 3 роки тому
This is the story I’ve been waiting for raven! Thank you!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@mrhammer2711
@mrhammer2711 2 роки тому
Thanks to you dude I now know the multiplayer plot cause I've been playing for 2 years and still didn't know what was happening. thanks dude and keep up the good work and love your for honor content really helps
@MemesArentDead
@MemesArentDead 2 роки тому
For Honor deserves more credit than it gets The story and it’s meaning The characters The end goal Marvelous
@meowmeowloverr
@meowmeowloverr 3 роки тому
Great vid raven keep up the great work and wish you well
@AshenRean
@AshenRean Рік тому
These videos make me wish instead of little events we got a new story chapter each season which expands on stuff. I never realized how deep the for honor story was till watching these videos
@dirtyd4cdeeds935
@dirtyd4cdeeds935 2 роки тому
It’s crazy how nobody cares for the story and complain about his gameplay. It’s mind boggling.
@thatgoodolpisscrab
@thatgoodolpisscrab 2 роки тому
it's a multiplayer game and he was broken from release, it's mind boggling how good lore can make u forget he's a broken character.
@dirtyd4cdeeds935
@dirtyd4cdeeds935 2 роки тому
@@thatgoodolpisscrab 1. He’s not that bad anymore so people are bitching about nothing 2. Ok it’s a multiplayer game. So? What does that have to do with a Lore video about the character. Talking about his story, not his gameplay. It’s mind boggling how some people can’t differentiate
@thatgoodolpisscrab
@thatgoodolpisscrab 2 роки тому
@@dirtyd4cdeeds935 he's still bad man, he's definitely top 3 broken heros, and it's a multiplayer game so it's ya know smart to talk abt the game play not the fancy made up story to a fake character
@abdullahwira9773
@abdullahwira9773 2 роки тому
maann... your vids is really good.... keep up man
@MrJohnthegamerHD
@MrJohnthegamerHD Рік тому
Man, these videos make Ubisoft's game look better than it actually is. That's a sub from me, on behalf of how well you tell the lore of the game.
@hirotheog8467
@hirotheog8467 3 роки тому
Amazing video, great job
@Hadras7094
@Hadras7094 3 роки тому
I was looking forward to this
@thewhitewolf7909
@thewhitewolf7909 3 роки тому
My favorite channel I have ever come a cross
@pedromsampaio647
@pedromsampaio647 2 роки тому
"he does not belive in killing the weak" Holden killing the most fragile thing in the game: 1:36
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
astrea objects
@Toatekaha
@Toatekaha 3 роки тому
Congrats on 7k my man 👍🏾👏🏾
@davidellis6656
@davidellis6656 3 роки тому
some pretty deep lore in the background of multiplayer heavy game and honest i love it.
@jaguarwarrior7627
@jaguarwarrior7627 3 роки тому
From lion to monke, also good video
@baconmangaming7002
@baconmangaming7002 3 роки тому
This proves that humanity is not ready return to Monke
@TheScriptor6753
@TheScriptor6753 3 роки тому
Congrats Raven for reaching 7k
@papabear4941
@papabear4941 2 роки тому
Hey man. Love the content. Glad to see there is someone who’s invested in the lore like me. I was just wondering (if at all possible) you would do a video like this for ayu and stigandr. From my pov, during the secret meet-up 8 years after Apollyon’s death, judging by the vibes of the final moments of the cutscene, assassins who were loyal to Apollyon’s ideas were to kill all three. It’s obvious that Holden survived the attempt(s), but I just kept wondering what happened to the empress and the jarl. Perhaps during year 5 they’ll bring back one of them like they did Holden last year.
@cuppedcup5048
@cuppedcup5048 2 роки тому
This was so good
@Max2ds
@Max2ds 2 роки тому
Lore: A tragic warrior, now disillusioned to his core values. Forced to reshape himself. Gameplay: “Gryphon main, monkey brain”
@xeox4280
@xeox4280 2 роки тому
Get good
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR 2 роки тому
I'm main Holden Cross, Lawbringer and Gryphon with pride. My favorite and the best character from For Honor.
@ThePanthiestPanther
@ThePanthiestPanther 3 роки тому
Well done!
@chupchupman5859
@chupchupman5859 3 роки тому
Great video!
@sircarlos3707
@sircarlos3707 3 роки тому
12:26 Beautiful quote
@Baldeagle-tw2nv
@Baldeagle-tw2nv 2 роки тому
Apollyon's philosophy was essentially to create a forced deterrence between all three factions after prolonged fighting. If all three factions had stayed in their peak with small scale skirmishes and engagements, Astrea and her factions would've never come into power. All three armies would've responded quickly with battle hardened warriors and troops and crushed her before anything could've happened. Sometimes being in a perpetual state of warfare on a small scale is the best way to maintain peace, because your forces are already experienced in combat and can quickly react to any threat.
@comrademoshi1028
@comrademoshi1028 2 роки тому
with all this lore in for honor they should make a movie or a tv series/animation…. i’m sure everyone would appreciate it
@turtleusa353
@turtleusa353 Рік тому
you make the lore actually sound cool and interesting, something ubisoft has never done at least in my opinion
@khoseftadros2775
@khoseftadros2775 3 роки тому
So I'm curious, what happened to the lord Warden, did he/she just disappear or die? that'd be a shame tbh
@aminbarray8634
@aminbarray8634 3 роки тому
They went on a soul search according to the previous writer.
@gabrielwilson7050
@gabrielwilson7050 3 роки тому
Lore Orders say they disappeared. Nobody in lore knows where they went.
@khoseftadros2775
@khoseftadros2775 3 роки тому
@@gabrielwilson7050 Well I want my warden back dammit, she's (since I played with female) the only one where we saw a full character arc out of in the entire story on screen.
@gabrielwilson7050
@gabrielwilson7050 3 роки тому
@@khoseftadros2775 Dude for real! I miss them so...
@tomthestone1470
@tomthestone1470 2 роки тому
@@khoseftadros2775 Never gonna happen. Too broad in terms of appearance, not to mention the lack of individual design.
@yeet_kid_7170
@yeet_kid_7170 2 роки тому
This was epic
@Daubeny-pm8vk
@Daubeny-pm8vk 2 роки тому
Very good video ! I wonder if we gonna get a story with Daubeny
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
time traveler
@darkwolf6879
@darkwolf6879 3 роки тому
So we play as holdan again as gryphon?! O.o
@zero_assistance4326
@zero_assistance4326 2 роки тому
Man after reading someone's comment I really wanna play through vortigors story.
@zutsume5375
@zutsume5375 2 роки тому
I love Gryphon's lore and gameplay (Don't start arguing about how i'm a low human being because you don't like Gryphon's gameplay, i'm not here for that), and this video was absolutely amazing, you might say i'm taking this a bit too seriously, but this is the shit that hyped me when i saw the trailer for the first time. Love the character, hands down my favorite hero lore wise. Great vid anyway !
@cujo8212
@cujo8212 2 роки тому
Yk you're a piece of shit for playing gryphon cuz u had to give a disclaimer 😂😂😂
@zutsume5375
@zutsume5375 2 роки тому
@@cujo8212 You had to point that out... I don't feel like a piece of shit and Gryphon doesn't make me one, but fair point i guess
@cujo8212
@cujo8212 2 роки тому
@@zutsume5375 It was just jokes brother
@zutsume5375
@zutsume5375 2 роки тому
@@cujo8212 That's why i said that it's a fair point and that you had to point my disclaimer out x)
@thelouster5815
@thelouster5815 2 роки тому
I have to commend you for making For Honor's atrocious writing sound good. That takes some serious skill!
@fabianwafler9869
@fabianwafler9869 2 роки тому
Did you realize that the viking who wasn’t executed by Holden is Ragnar from the viking Story?
@fabianwafler9869
@fabianwafler9869 2 роки тому
And Ragnar did what appollyon wanted the vikings to do, to fight, to weep out the weak and destroy the freedom in valkenheim.
@RavenKnightYT
@RavenKnightYT 2 роки тому
Yes. I remember that.
@fabianwafler9869
@fabianwafler9869 2 роки тому
@@RavenKnightYT I love these details.
@choosinkien268
@choosinkien268 3 роки тому
I used to thnk the lore of gryphon was stupid and also wm but now that ive watched this video i have finnally appreciate that the lore hasnt changed at all. Although i still dont get how holden is still alive now but hey meme characters dont die i guess
@choosinkien268
@choosinkien268 3 роки тому
Also i now hate Wm even more cuz she is disrespecting or misunderstandong Appolyon's moral by twisting it to her own needs
@theshadow5200
@theshadow5200 2 роки тому
I feel like I know why I like Holden/gryphon cause after he left Apollyon and became a mercenary fighting with other faction leaving there moves there culture and how they work me I’ve been to three different schools knew how they work the code there rights and wrongs and so I learned more just like gryphon
@roogoculus2885
@roogoculus2885 2 роки тому
He went from shob to dodge heavy Fucking character development
@doccock2115
@doccock2115 3 роки тому
I still dont get why we cant have those lion shoulder plates for the multiplayer.
@topc5091
@topc5091 3 роки тому
You can but you need to buy the gryphon bundle
@doccock2115
@doccock2115 3 роки тому
@@topc5091 but fit lb
@booooooosh9511
@booooooosh9511 3 роки тому
Ubi are tards there's your answer, if they weren't we'd have accurate armour for the vast majority of characters and those lion shoulder plates
@Skyzaros
@Skyzaros 3 роки тому
Very well writen
@hawsehogan4453
@hawsehogan4453 2 роки тому
Rip Davis
@bobjoe4414
@bobjoe4414 2 роки тому
Hey what’s the awesome calm music you used towards the end of the video? I love the sound of it
@Jye-cf4oh
@Jye-cf4oh 2 місяці тому
RIP Davis you will be miss.
@halbarand2806
@halbarand2806 Рік тому
So at the beginning of the video since I didn’t click on it, shows the captions and the way daubeny was spelt was funny
@leoestellar5232
@leoestellar5232 2 роки тому
We desperately need an update on the story mode
@GameJack
@GameJack 2 роки тому
I use to think Holden’s journey to Gryphon was a bit stupid and nonsensical but this video has made me really reconsider it and Holden as a character in general. Great work! That said, there is still something about his story that doesn’t quite sit with me and I can’t pinpoint what it is exactly. Might be because I think they went a bit too far with his literal journey across the world, or that the Lord Warden was somehow the ONLY person who took his betrayal of Apollyon seriously (and then straight-up disappeared out of nowhere when Holden would have needed his support - what a guy), or it might just be some reinforcement of the fact that the original factions seemingly mean squat to the writers now, which is saddening. Although that might just all be a byproduct of my hate for the current story and what it introduced and retconned. I do not like it, at all. That being said, I’ll stick with this game until it dies (or pisses me off too much).
@Jahim-zu6wk
@Jahim-zu6wk 2 роки тому
That classic for honor soundtrack though
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
everyone gangsta till they start speaking enchantment table
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR 2 роки тому
17:03 EXACTLY!!!!!
@Resident_Nightlord
@Resident_Nightlord 2 роки тому
oh my god...
@ghostlyswat12
@ghostlyswat12 2 роки тому
Man for honor devs should hire you to tell us the lore 😅
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
🗿
@IronWarrior_69
@IronWarrior_69 3 роки тому
happy day
@thaipankatima658
@thaipankatima658 8 місяців тому
I trust Daubeny far more than i would trust Holden Cross. Daubeny might've been a coward, but at least he was honest about it. Holden Cross on the other hand, has little loyalty to anyone but his own interests. He betrayed the Iron Legion along with his master when it suited him. Then he betrayed the Black Stone Legion when their goals no longer aligned. And he would turn against the Lord Warden when the time comes. The man is a traitor twice over, no matter what anyone says. The word trust, loyalty, honor, are meaningless coming from his mouth.
@mr.0474
@mr.0474 Рік тому
Damn for honor has a good story
@McDankleStank
@McDankleStank 2 роки тому
I just noticed that was Ragnar that Apollyon spared only for him to be killed by the Player's Raider after refusing to share food and resources amongst the other clsns and work with them rather than against them.
@miimiibeschde4818
@miimiibeschde4818 9 місяців тому
*Share a small Box of bread and vegetables and three barrels of potatoes
@logeyperogi1805
@logeyperogi1805 2 роки тому
Holden doesn’t want peace, but he also doesn’t want war So, how can you have peace and strength? You can’t It’s quite upsetting, but also just how the world works, only those strong enough to survive will be able to, but the difference between Gryphon and Astrea is that Astrea thinks she needs to get rid of the weak, she needs to remove them all so that only the strongest thrive, but Gryphon understands that there’s strength in everyone, and that’s what the Order of Chimera uses Whereas Astrea extinguishes the dying flames of the people she hates, Gryphon fuels the flames, he brings out their strength, so that in the end they realize who they are, and what they stand for Holden didn’t just DECIDE to become Gryphon, he needed to grow, to learn, to become stronger, and he wants everyone else, those who Astrea would kill just for the hell of it, he wants those people to fight, to prove that they’re not just some weak creatures, that they’re strong and all they needed was PROPER motivation to draw out that strength The Order of Chimera uses a deer as their symbol, and Horkos uses a wolf What do wolves do? When they hunt, they go after the weakest in the herd, but what would happen if that supposedly weak deer drew out its inner strength? What if that deer fought back? They’d show their strength THIS is what Gryphon wants, he wants his herd to draw out their true strength so that if a bloodthirsty wolf comes to prove their strength, they don’t walk away easily Chimera or Horkos? I’m Chimera, I believe that true strength isn’t something you just have, TRUE strength must be built upon, and drawn out with proper motivation Gryphon’s herd of deer, and Astrea’s pack of wolves, THIS is the war, and Apollyon would cheer on Gryphon, because not only did Gryphon use her ideals and follow them, but he’d also use them for the people, he used her ideals to rally people and remove a tyrant, and Apollyon would definitely be proud
@Astrololo1
@Astrololo1 Рік тому
at last indeed
@SnakeLion123
@SnakeLion123 2 роки тому
Can I ask what soundtrack or did you use and what name. I’ve tried looking but came up nothing. 10:00 12:35
@nathanieljernigan1147
@nathanieljernigan1147 2 роки тому
Did you see me lay down the law? I am the lawbringer!
@Mario-ll4sb
@Mario-ll4sb 2 роки тому
From Lion to Monkey how interesting of an outcome.
@xeox4280
@xeox4280 2 роки тому
Get good
@Mario-ll4sb
@Mario-ll4sb 2 роки тому
@@xeox4280 ah how smart of you let me get this straight you arent good if you spam dodge havies with your gryphon aka monkey. If you play like that u kind of shouldnt pkay the game
@xeox4280
@xeox4280 2 роки тому
@@Mario-ll4sb you can block them i think. Or parry them. Its not that hard, and i dont spam anything.
@Mario-ll4sb
@Mario-ll4sb 2 роки тому
@@xeox4280 Whatever but your argument cant be just get good. U can go with you get good to hell for all i care. Yes its true u can parry them but with input delay its harder thant oh i can press heavy button to parry nope you cant cause half the time parries arent read
@The_Shadow80
@The_Shadow80 Рік тому
The only thing that Apollyon wanted to do is to prepare everyone if there was another caticlisim Even if it meant to kill the weak and bring in the strong EVEN IF IT MEANT WAR
@theslayer1652
@theslayer1652 2 роки тому
I just realized the guy she spared is Ragnar the guy raider kills
@conorcrosbie1668
@conorcrosbie1668 2 роки тому
Remember when people said the campaign in this game was 'rushed'
@paladinofthelostdays7392
@paladinofthelostdays7392 2 роки тому
I need Warden lore
@bejeko923
@bejeko923 2 роки тому
"What ?? Fight you ?? That's not a trial, that an execution..."
@dag_will2615
@dag_will2615 2 роки тому
The Horkos/Chimera thing must be accidentally smart, there's absolutely zero wat they meant for the pieces to line up like this
@SolarCasanova
@SolarCasanova Рік тому
He knows what he is.. apollyon2.0
@TheScriptor6753
@TheScriptor6753 3 роки тому
Early
@seanslaysean7097
@seanslaysean7097 Рік тому
Apollyon was right about war as a constant, but not why people fight; there will always be wolves, but those wolves contend with shepherds now
@Vortex1yt
@Vortex1yt 2 роки тому
Was that kyoshin at the end?
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