Game of Thrones: Battle of the Blackwater
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In the previous video in our animated series on the Game of Thrones and the World of Ice and Fire, we have covered the battles of the Green Fork and Whispering Wood (bit.ly/2H9F8mA), during which the armies of Robb Stark faced off against the Lannisters. Although the Lannisters managed to restore parity on this front, to the south their positions at the Kings Landing were attacked by Stannis Baratheon and that lead to the Battle of the Blackwater, one of the largest in the War of Five Kings
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@KingsandGenerals 5 років тому
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@franciscomm7675 5 років тому
Can you do the battle of sedan? I want to understand what happened
@DreamerFromBeyond 5 років тому
Please make more fictional battle at least once a month or once every two months
@siechamontillado 5 років тому
And consider yourself at home, consider yourself one of the family...! For reference: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mWCSZX6QkKOauYE.html
@arawn1061 5 років тому
It says at 2:50 that Loras was the heir of highgarden when it was His older brother Willas Tyrell. Is this video following the books or the show in this regard or is it simply a mistake?
@arawn1061 5 років тому
@James Adams ah ok it was just the Loras mistake then
@blackstar2458 5 років тому
"We are too far from the gates... The fire... Their archers... Hundreds will die!" "Thousands."
@blackstar2458 5 років тому
@Fabian Kirchgessner Yeah, I know. Stannis commanded his men from the rear, as Tywin Lannister did, if we wanted to talk referencing the books. But it's a cool line and I like it nonetheless.
@Longshanks1690 5 років тому
@Fabian Kirchgessner So Martin doesn't understand his own characters, because he wrote Blackwater? And yeah, that absolutely is Stannis. It doesn't matter how many had to die so long as he could take his rightful Throne.
@Longshanks1690 5 років тому
@Fabian Kirchgessner Yes, it was his duty to take the throne to save the realm (or vice versa.) And it was the duty of every one of his soldiers to die if necessary in order to put him there. Stannis accepted this. This is not a contradiction. Keep in mind this is the same man who sacrificed his stepfather, executed his brother, would have murdered his nephew and will murder his daughter. (And he will) Duty and sacrifice are part of the same coin to Stannis. Also, he only let the Wildlings become his subjects so long as they bent the knee. They refused, which made them his enemies, for Kings only have subjects and enemies, according to Stannis.
@Longshanks1690 5 років тому
@Fabian Kirchgessner I didn't condemn him for having Renly killed, merely pointed out that he did it. Stannis is the One True King, ruled by justice and duty. And he murdered his brother. A good act does not wash out the bad and all that. Ok, now you're just making excuses. In the books, Lord Florent didn't even get the chance to present his terms to either Stannis or the Lannisters. He had him executed for thought crime. And in the show, Stannis had him executed for refusing to tear down the sept under Stannis' orders. Moreover, you can tell from the scene that Stannis disliked having to do it, he simply regarded it as his duty. Either way, he had no right to burn him. The punishment for Treason in Westeros is beheading - NOT burning. So either way, he isn't acting as a traditional King would. As I said, he will burn her in the books. And Stannis in the books expresses disgust at the concept of harming Edric Storm in the same book that he orders that boy's execution. What's the point about him naming her his heir? He is capable of changing his mind, and does it often based on circumstance. They didn't attack "his" realm. They attacked the Night's Watch, outside the Iron Throne's jurisdiction. And he wasn't in any position to punish them. They're not his subjects. The point is moot. Also, can people please stop saying "Stannis would never..." in regards to something cruel? Yes, he absolutely would.
@justafaniv1097 5 років тому
@Fabian Kirchgessner I dont think it is particularly cruel, it's just realistic. Stannis knows that this is his one chance to take the city and crush the Lannister menace. Though thousands may die, they will win the war. Stannis sees that the Lannisters are prepared to mount a vigorous defense, but he knows the casualties here to end the war will be worth it if he wins. Unlike other kings *cough* Renly *cough*, he has no illusions about the cost of war, and wont delude himself or his men.
@wafl423 5 років тому
GODS THE WRITING WAS STRONG THEN
@alexandrub8786 5 років тому
Yes because it was made by Martin.
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 5 років тому
FINISH THIS DAMN SHOW BEFORE I PISS MESELF
@Mykil47 5 років тому
Lam Wing Fung here here!
@romelnegut2005 5 років тому
@@alexandrub8786 Are you from Romania?
@alexandrub8786 5 років тому
@@romelnegut2005 yes. Și sunt sigur ca și tu ești.
@jacksonglasscock8337 3 роки тому
Mellisandra: The fires have spoken, either you’ll win or lose. Stannis: WELL NO SHIT.
@adblue8955 2 роки тому
Hey at least she was straight up about it lol. None of that oracle at Delphi wordplay
@ARCtrooperblueleader 2 роки тому
🤣❤️
@__-yz1ob 2 роки тому
"Did your god whispered that into your ear"
@cassiusfelix2805 2 роки тому
I know right
@Liquidsback 5 років тому
This battle was at night but I remember seeing it.
@Historyfan476AD 5 років тому
You mean unlike a certain other battle.
@hamzanaveed4760 5 років тому
Honestly winterfell was such a disappointment. They should've watched a few kings and generals videos before writing that battle. Fools dug a trench and placed their army in front of it
@baky582 5 років тому
@Paul Johnson Of course it did, it was actually written by Martin.
@worsethanjoerogan8061 5 років тому
@Paul Johnson Yeah it was written by Martin.
@luisofsuburbia 5 років тому
@Paul Johnson Remember when both armies were actually composed of living humans and not undead zombies? I am sure it makes no difference I suppose.
@kanyekubrick5391 5 років тому
9:25 imagine having Trebuchet INSIDE your walls
@Cancoillotteman 5 років тому
What a great idea ! Also look at this innovation : they used cavalery AFTER footmen were engaged ! Real strategic geniuses here ! :O
@goldengonzogaming2664 5 років тому
I know this is besides the point you're trying to make (that they should of had the trebuchets inside the walls at Winterfell) but those trebuchets were WAY too far away to fire over the walls. The biggest trebuchets with the heaviest counterweights could fire 200-300lb (90-133kg) rocks maybe 1000 feet (333 yards). GRRM has stated that King's Landing was slightly bigger than Paris or London. Meaning a trebuchet as far back as it is claimed to be would be MILES away from the walls. For a trebuchet to be able to fire into the river they'd have to be pretty much directly behind the walls. Or on Aegon's High Hill between the Red Keep (outside of it) and the river.
@skizzlechizzle 5 років тому
Kanye Kubrick The trebuchets can’t fit inside Winterfell.
@princeparsival2038 5 років тому
@@goldengonzogaming2664 you know that London is so fucking much bigger than Paris right?
@joostgoedhart2005 5 років тому
@@princeparsival2038 Martin means MEDIEVAL London and Paris
@gameryazov8327 5 років тому
Stannis, the first one in the field and last one out of the field. The true Mannis.
@barbiquearea 5 років тому
In the books wasn't he commanding in the rearguard?
@gameryazov8327 5 років тому
@@barbiquearea Yeah he was leading from the rear in the books but he's still the Mannis
@gameryazov8327 5 років тому
@@user-yi4de4tb4i No thanks to Tywin Lannister but the real person that I should be thanking is Edmure Tully lel
@zac5572 4 роки тому
@@barbiquearea he was commanding from the rear like every good commander
@eyegaiminhd 4 роки тому
@@user-yi4de4tb4i Imagine thinking one of the best commanders in Westeros is at fault for the wildfire trap.
@ultron-5600 4 роки тому
“I should’ve let Stannis kill you all!”
@starhunter9085 3 роки тому
*Surprised Pikachu face when Daenerys kills them all.*
@johnnysilverhand-- 11 місяців тому
@@starhunter9085 LOL JUST REALIZED THAT
@generalcaesar3477 5 років тому
One King,One God,One Realm! Ours is the Fury! Stannis! Stannis! Stannis!
@fawwazn.1244 5 років тому
*STANNIS!! STANNIS!! STANNIS!!* *Kneel down to the ONE TRUE King*
@addickland5656 5 років тому
Stannis is indeed the rightfull heir, but he sadly never stood a chance of capturing king`s landing. To dispel some of the hopes and dreams of his fans: if edmure had allowed tywin to pass, the tyrell`s would have just marched on stannis` back on their own(at tywin`s request), since they CANNOT have him win due to his wife. if the vale joined robb, it would only have pulled robb east to link up with them, given the westerlands more time to recover and force tywin to retreat south, thereby linking up with mace, even earlier. thanks to the personalities of balon greyjoy, tyrion, baelish and doran martell, no-one else was rising against the lannisers. stannis and robb were doomed the moment renly declared himself king(curse you melisandre!). heck, scarp that, I think with all the people in power at that particular time, the lannisters were certain to win the second tywin beat roose bolton. tyrion and doran silenced dorne, baelish the vale, renly and melisandre wrecked stannis` chance to claim the throne and created the tyrell-lannister alliance, and balon, theon and roose made sure robb was doomed in the long run. some things just aren`t meant to be sadly. :(
@firefoystyle2000 5 років тому
You mean FURY BURNS
@dino6912 5 років тому
Ours is the Fewer!
@isq2242 5 років тому
They’ll bend the knee or Stannis will destroy them
@Ks-bz3cx 5 років тому
Tyrion is the skaven warlock engineer of westeros
@dimitrismar7348 5 років тому
Lmao
@Anetron1 5 років тому
A Lannister always pays-returns his debts-credits, yes-yes.
@razzyrazberries 3 роки тому
B-burn them with warpfire, yes yes?
@ericfang2355 4 роки тому
At 2:32, Melisandre made a mistake in thinking that she saw two futures. They were actually the same future but at different points in time. Stannis did kill Renly and take his army, but Ser Garlan, wearing Renly's armour, defeated him.
@thezeus3830 Рік тому
i think he means melisandre thought it was two futures
@RhaevanHeims Рік тому
Damn... That's a good thought.
@aramshakkour6704 Рік тому
its a returning theme in the books, for example the "possible futures" Daenerys sees is book 2 are all events which do happen one point or another, with usually a "monkeypawish" twist
@hamzamahmood9565 Рік тому
As House of the Dragon also showed us, prophecies/dreams are very tricky
@andrisrubins8022 5 років тому
Battle of blackwater was visually stunning... wildfire was like a cooler version of greek fire.
@worsethanjoerogan8061 5 років тому
Yeah seeing the wildfire go off was one of the few times the show surpassed the book
@Brandonhayhew 5 років тому
This battle was inspired in the 7th century where caliphate arabs launches invasion by seas and Constantinople uses Greek fire ships to burn down a large arab seas ships.
@andrisrubins8022 5 років тому
@not harambefan George R.R. Martin, said that he made wildfire by taking greek fire multiplying it by ten and adding magic.
@andrisrubins8022 5 років тому
@@Sam-eu9go First 5 seasons of the show didn't suck, ratings still are high. And even if it sucks, why you need to be mean? Everyone enjoys different things, it is very rude to judge people by shows they watch.
@Sam-eu9go 5 років тому
@@andrisrubins8022 if you enjoy garbage it's because you are garbage.
@Annatar_the_admirable 5 років тому
"I have felt from the beginning that Stannis was a greater danger than all the others combined." - Tywin Lannister Note that this was when Renly had 100 000 men, Robb 20 000 and reserves at home, and Stannis barely 5000 with mercenaries.
@hemanthkify 4 роки тому
When was it said??
@mrvulture8981 4 роки тому
@@hemanthkify in Feast for crows i think
@SRosenberg203 4 роки тому
@@mrvulture8981 Tywin was dead by Feast...
@mrvulture8981 4 роки тому
@@SRosenberg203 damn i dont know whats wrong with me. Probably in clash of kings when his marching towards Kings landing
@SRosenberg203 4 роки тому
@@mrvulture8981 Yeah that sounds about right
@brbingus9139 5 років тому
More effort went into writing this video than the writing for the entirety of season 8.
@jimzimmer2048 5 років тому
Mr. Meatballs 2.0 there was 1 bad plan the rest of season was sick
@brbingus9139 5 років тому
@@jimzimmer2048 I disagree
@willbrown3694 5 років тому
@@jimzimmer2048 that's just not true.
@andreas956 5 років тому
@@jimzimmer2048 1 bad plan? Are you serious? Get out of here!
@jimzimmer2048 5 років тому
@@willbrown3694 eh i think best season on tv still
@OfficialRedTeamReview 5 років тому
Ah....Season 2.....not my favorite season but definitely one of the good ones.
@timstauffacher8663 3 роки тому
After the 7 and 8, 1-4 are pure gold
@doncorleole2356 3 роки тому
@@timstauffacher8663 They are and always have been pure gold
@professorlayton8712 3 роки тому
Not my favourite??? Stop speaking after Seasons 5 to 8.
@OfficialRedTeamReview 3 роки тому
@@professorlayton8712 k
@professorlayton8712 3 роки тому
@@OfficialRedTeamReview Cope for the fact that you posted a comment to advertise your channel and despite a pin noone liked it
@napolien1310 5 років тому
"My hirelings betray me, my friends are scourged and shamed, and I lie here rotting. I thought I won the bloody battle. Is this what triumph tastes like?" Tyrion lannister
@oliverschoneck7750 5 років тому
what was teh opinion of tyrion among the surviving soldiers and citizens after the battle?
@mike.n.n.7723 5 років тому
Like what Jaime said after breaking up with Cersei, realising that Tyrion will be executed and Tywin disowning him "I have lost a hand, a brother, a father and a lover; and they keep telling me House Lannister won this war"
@mike.n.n.7723 5 років тому
@@oliverschoneck7750 The nobles like the Lords from the Reach and even his father Tywin praised him for his idea about the chain and wildfire But Cersei gave herself most of the credit We don't really know how the commoners and regular soldiers thought of him since there is no POV character who interacted with them
@n.c.kupfermann1023 5 років тому
@@mike.n.n.7723 even in the show tywin acknowledges him by making him master of the coin.
@manishkumardivekar4836 3 роки тому
@@n.c.kupfermann1023 It was little credit...Tyrion deserved to be the lord of casterly rock. But tyrion never wanted to be master of coins nor lord of rock , it's his fathers praise and love of small folks he desired the most.
@yochaiwyss3843 5 років тому
STANNIS THE MANNIS, ONE TRUE KING!
@MP-on1xf 5 років тому
Stannis the Mannis with a Plannis!
@SlavicWolfPL 5 років тому
6:10 Damn it, Edmure, you had ONE JOB!
@adblue8955 2 роки тому
Well it might have been helpful to y'know tell him about it.
@Kalleosini 5 років тому
So you're telling me you have set your trebuchets inside the walls??? blasphemy!
@thornmug2791 5 років тому
Exactly! Put them into the first line in front of your trenches!
@Kalleosini 5 років тому
@@thornmug2791 hell yeah that's what I'm talking bout! r u a 4 star general sir?
@Saeronor 5 років тому
@@thornmug2791 Magnificent idea! Let the enemy see them - the knowledge we possess a true WMD of siege warfare will surely be enough to cause panic. Also, this shrewd tactic will convince Night King *we* are the ones sieging Winterfell. It will totally subvert his expectation and we all know this equals victory.
@OOUER 4 роки тому
The Winds of Winter will potentially have four major battles: 1 The battle of Fire in Meereen 2 The battle of Ice in the North 3 The battle of Steel in the Stormlands 4 The battle of Blood around Oldtown I really hope you will cover them in your channel.
@drphilsranch6782 2 роки тому
@@mysteryjunkie9808, that’s the battle of ice
@faisalabdulla9595 2 роки тому
The battle of steel I know young griff is fighting in it with the golden company but against who ?
@DozleZabi Рік тому
The winds of winter will have no battles because GRRM will die
@ironforged2329 Рік тому
@@DozleZabi just like your dad?
@drippinwet774 Рік тому
Oldtown will likely feature a Greyjoy threat. It rests along the Western coast to the South, far from any assistance from King's Landing which is situated next to Blackwater Bay to the East. One raid from Euron to access secrets from the Citadel of the Maesters...but I digress. Why attack now? Maybe to land forces? No that wouldn't work unless the Tyrells and Martells have been eliminated/severely weakened at this point.
@mp44christos 5 років тому
This is how you do sieges... D&D take notes!
@jhon-wm5ok 4 роки тому
D&D are the writers of this scene
@somegreekdude9225 4 роки тому
@@jhon-wm5ok but this scene is also present in the books the tactics were already there. for example the battle of winterfell was trash tactic wise sacrificing almost all of the dothraki for no reason et cetera....
@redblueproductions9739 4 роки тому
This episdoe is actually one of the episodes that are entirely written by George.
@Jacob-ge1py 4 роки тому
@@jhon-wm5ok No, the battle was drastically different in the show than the books, this video showcases the book version and while in the show it was still amazing, the book version made a little more sense
@alexbattaglia8297 3 роки тому
That's not a siege, that's an assault
@xthief1037 5 років тому
They should have watched your channel before planning the battle of winterfell. Awful formation.
@luisofsuburbia 5 років тому
Anyone have a blueprint or battle tactics on how to fight a massive zombie horde? Does the Citadel contain such information? I don't think so
@xthief1037 5 років тому
For a show that is inspired by real history, that battle was ridiculous. Also this isn’t a complaint, it was merely a remark.
@luisofsuburbia 5 років тому
ilias baddouch - Wasn’t it ridiculous enough that there was an undead army being controlled by a horned ice demon?
@xthief1037 5 років тому
luisofsuburbia you’re really missing my point. Yes you’re right :)
@ngengeku 5 років тому
@@luisofsuburbia Dude, are you seriously defending the show's recent incredibly shitty writing?
@tyrionlannister6608 5 років тому
Loooooll, Joffrey was so ineffective in the battle, he was not even mentioned🤣🤣
@JcLazy1 5 років тому
Tyrion Lannister My real name is Joffrey, this show ruin my damn name. Lol. I am still a king though.
@JcLazy1 5 років тому
@Abserd O Those that don't know, need to know. 🤴🏾
@JcLazy1 5 років тому
@Abserd O No more so like Jon Snow.
@johnvazakas970 5 років тому
Truth...the only thing he really says is that his ships are burning after the wildfire explodes. He really didn't do anything in the book version either 😂
@tyrionlannister6608 4 роки тому
@@johnvazakas970 atleast he commanded the trebuchets in the books. Until he shitted his pants and left
@princeprocrastinate6485 5 років тому
As much as I like the Blackwater episode we got in the show, I do wish they had been able to do it as it happened in the books. Think it would've been even more epic. But I understand we were lucky to even get what we got, back then they didn't have as much of a budget per season.
@princeprocrastinate6485 5 років тому
@Lics Norgi Oh yeah, because we all really, REALLY needed that.
@austinford1530 4 роки тому
@Lics Norgi that fight was pretty awful
@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies Рік тому
Tyrion fighting on the burning bridge of ships would have been epic
@abhishekpawar5126 5 років тому
I was supporting Stannis the whole time
@bogdangabrielonete3467 5 років тому
I didnt have beef with Stannis until he burned Shereen alive, like wtf is wrong with you? I can understand keeping her locked due to her illness, but still he was a shitty father.
@golayath137 5 років тому
@@bogdangabrielonete3467 westeros would still be better off if stannis was the king even if he burned her
@bogdangabrielonete3467 5 років тому
@@golayath137 I heard a lot of people just love Stannis from the books, so I imagine things were different back then. And the current Stannis was a military genius and a good swordsman. But how he approached the North, and faced Bolton, and burning his daughter, he was pretty delusional at the end. Also, his brother's assassination was underhanded, and that didn't really help him in the end
@juniornisthal2216 4 роки тому
Bogdan Gabriel Onete also it’s very unlikely that he will kill shireen seeing that she’s at castle black and not with him. (In the book series of course) also he “hasn’t” actually fought Ramsay yet. I mean Ramsay says he won the fight but no one actually knows seeing that there were suppose to be some northern houses who are going to betray Ramsay.
@MrRenix1990 4 роки тому
Bogdan Gabriel Onete Shereen is still alive in the books, as well as Stannis and his men
@Fatihturk0071 5 років тому
Stannis is the one true king ;)
@brianc1812 5 років тому
Not in the books. He did not burn his daughter either as she I believe is at Castle Black
@Longshanks1690 5 років тому
@Brian C Not yet, but he will.
@lolmr2 5 років тому
For the show is bad and full of bad writers!
@King_Stannis_Baratheon 5 років тому
Ours is the fury!
@n.c.kupfermann1023 5 років тому
@@Longshanks1690 no he will not.1. He already did burn 3 man alive who did cannibalism due to starvation. 2. He loves is daughter more then himself. All he does is for her. it is more than obvious if you read the chapters of his perspective. 3. the showrunners did not like stannis nor knew what to do with him. They say it themself. thats why they let him burn is daughter alive. to cut lose ends.
@diegonatan6301 5 років тому
In the books Tyrion used a chain to block the channel and keep Stannis' boats from escaping, which in turn was the reason why the ships ended up forming a bridge, in the show that bridge didn't form. Book version is much superior to the show version.
@ozeppeo 5 років тому
Back when GOT battles were logical
@lukasj1980 5 років тому
but this is the book version of the battle ;) much better but you cant compare this to the series
@NeroIML 5 років тому
This battle is a complete clusterfuck.
@joevenespineli6389 5 років тому
@@NeroIML Lots of battles are clusterfucks
@NeroIML 5 років тому
@@joevenespineli6389 Absolutely, and I'm sure this was a well written clusterfuck, but not a logical one.
@joevenespineli6389 5 років тому
@@NeroIML Aye
@callumhook9903 5 років тому
Am I the only one who's been enjoying these videos from Kings and Generals more then season 8?? Please keep up the good work kings and Generals. Lift you game, directors of Game of Thrones season 8
@loganlebeau6185 5 років тому
Callum Hook “lift your game” lol they’re on to heavily edit Star Wars next 😂
@SRosenberg203 4 роки тому
That's a low bar though. Real fans would enjoy syphilis more than they enjoyed Season 8.
@szbszig 5 років тому
Edmure's name could have been mentioned. He was the leader of the Tully army, that inadvertently prevented the retreat of Tywin's host into Westerlands with openly engaging and defeating him in the Battle of the Fords. Robb and Brynden were furious, when they heared of this upon returning to Riverrun.
@BIastwave. 5 місяців тому
One of my least favorite parts of the books. As the Lord Paramount of the Riverlands, Edmure is one of Robb’s most important bannermen. There was ZERO reason for Robb to keep him in the dark about the full extent of his plans. Robb told him to “hold riverrun” but how can he reasonably expect Edmure not to at least defend the Riverlands, especially after all the fire and slaughter they had suffered up to this point. It was one of Robb’s most costly strategic blunders.
@ajprop99 5 років тому
Minor correction: Loras was not the heir to highgarden
@ahtinen4004 3 роки тому
yes, it's Willas. I don't know why they removed Willas and Garlan in the show
@tancreddehauteville9983 3 роки тому
Ahti Köxi reduce expenses, make more money formula I guess
@AC4ace 3 роки тому
@@tancreddehauteville9983 BS. Given that both Willas and Garlan had excuses built-in to their storylines for why they wouldn't appear (Willas has a bad leg and doesn't travel, while Garlan was sent to lay siege to House Florent over 1000 miles from King's Landing), all they had to do was throw in a few lines explaining this, thus justifying why they didn't appear through at least Season 5 while leaving open the possibility of introducing them later if needed.
@caio7946 3 роки тому
Another: it is not certain that Cersei sent Mandon to kill Tyrion. It's actually more likely that it was littlefinger, but nobody knows, except Martin.
@toshitajoshi3851 2 роки тому
@@AC4ace yes, but in the books, the characters are atleast mentioned, also Garlan appears in ASoS and has actual lines
@tancreddehauteville9983 5 років тому
With all the got hype, this is all we ever wanted. Valar Morghulis
@KingsandGenerals 5 років тому
Valar Dohaeris
@gfilmer7150 3 роки тому
@@tancreddehauteville9983 Don't forget about FAegon.
@Bryce911 3 роки тому
Valar Dohaeris
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2 5 років тому
A sad point in history. All hail the one true king! All hail the Mannis!
@teddyroth1514 5 років тому
HEAR HEAR
@maximumeffort7096 4 роки тому
Stannis couldn't win no matter what he did XD
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2 4 роки тому
@@maximumeffort7096 He would have won if not for Tywin and Renly's armour.
@gfilmer7150 4 роки тому
The actor who played Stannis played King Edward of England in Outlaw King. In a way, the openning scene is like if Robb bent the knee to Stannis
@revanius2213 5 років тому
They only sent one of the Redwyne twins to the Tyrells and kept the others as a hostage. Also in the books Loras has two older brothers. Otherwise great video.
@allancg1022 5 років тому
they left out some details, unfortunately, for example, Mandon Moore was not the only real guard in the battle
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 5 років тому
@@allancg1022 Boros Blount was the other right?
@allancg1022 5 років тому
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 he and Balon Swann I believe
@SRosenberg203 4 роки тому
@@allancg1022 I think this was before Balon Swann became a KG; it was his heroics in this battle fighting alongside Renly's former men who joined Tywin that earned him his white cloak. - - CORRECTION: he's picked after the riot, but before the Blackwater. So I'm wrong here, sorry about that. The Kingsguard in this Battle were Mandon Moore, Balon Swann, and Sandor. Meryn Trant and Osmund Kettleblack are inside the Red Keep with Joffrey, when he's trebucheting antler men over the walls, and Arys Oakheart is already in Dorne with Myrcella. damn, and I just spent a good 5 minutes trying to remember the 7th and where he was, only to realize it was Jamie (duh) sitting in a dungeon at Riverrun.
@nemanjalukic1964 5 років тому
Is anyone else disappointed at season 8?
@MaskofPoesy 5 років тому
I was expecting mindless fanservice and was still disappointed. But above all else fuck Euron and his deus ex machina bullshit.
@Torgo1969 5 років тому
@@MaskofPoesy Euron? Urine!
@KeithShuler 5 років тому
I am a little.
@luisofsuburbia 5 років тому
Nah
@KeithShuler 5 років тому
@@raphaelostrowski6336 imagine that...
@kiritugeorge4684 4 роки тому
I have read and re-read ASOIAF but never have i ever grasped the full picture that was the blackwater like this. Infact, without youtube videos from people like you and more storyline centred videos like The Order of the Greenhand, Preston Jacobs, Gray Area etc, i think it would never have mattered how many times i reread ASOIAF LOL. This brilliance is awesome.
@siechamontillado 5 років тому
"I built me a raft and she's ready for floatin', Ol' Mississippi, she's callin' my na - OH GOD I'M ON FIRE!
@spartacist101 5 років тому
Didn’t the Tyrell-Lannister forces arrive on the south bank of the Blackwater to attack Stannis’ army?? Most of Stannis troops hadn’t made it across the Blackwater as his naval troops seemed to be doing the heavy lifting during the battle.
@Jaabra 5 років тому
In the tv series - Yes. But this was made after how the book told it.
@Sireas93 5 років тому
@@Jaabra So it's based on the books? I had problem with Loras - heir of House Tyrell. If it's based on books Willas is the heir and Loras is just some 3rd son.
@Jaabra 5 років тому
@@Sireas93 well, I ment the battle. If there is a fault in Loras not being the heir. Ask Kings and generals if they have made a mistake. Only he can awnser that.
@henrimourant9855 5 років тому
@@Sireas93 I think they made a mistake because later they say that Garlan Tyrell led the vangaurd in Renly's armor which that means that they are using book cannon (because Garlan doesn't exist in the show). But if that's the case than Loras can't be the heir as Garlan and Willas are his older brothers. So... It was probably a mistake.
@spartacist101 5 років тому
@@JaabraYeah i've read a detailed description of what happened on Wars and Politics of Ice and Ice and apparently the Tyrells and Lannister arrive on the north bank on the river and defeat Stannis' troops yet this video suggests all of Stannis' army is on the north bank when a fair amount was on the south bank allowing him to evacuate. In the tv series im pretty sure the whole fighting is on the north bank as Stannis' army just land next to the walls of the city (impossible in the book) and don't use the south side of the Blackwater Rush at all
@Divine_Chareka 3 роки тому
The music at the end of this video though 15:02 Feels like another Tywin's theme 😂
@rodrigolucena6166 2 роки тому
Do you know the name?
@Judicial78 5 років тому
Let's all be honest, Stannis would have been the most just, righteous King (besides the whole burning of his daughter thing >.> )
@starcusmcr3964 5 років тому
Burning His daughter was d&d bullshit. He would never do that.
@brettd2308 5 років тому
@@starcusmcr3964 It's confirmed that the burning came directly from George, so we can expect to see it happen in the books as well. The circumstances that lead to it will probably be different, but Stannis is already in an increasingly desperate situation in the Winds previews chapters, so he'll likely be talked into doing it to save his army much like in the show.
@telltellyn 5 років тому
In the books he insists Shireen be crowned if he ever dies, cos she's the future of the house. If he does end up burning her in the books, it's going to require a massive change for his character. It won't just be to clear up somehow winter weather (that's somehow not been a problem at all in season 6, 7 or 8).
@brettd2308 5 років тому
Judicial78 I think that's the big point of Stannis's character. He's someone who would actually be a good ruler, but fails to actually become ruler in the first place because of fatal personality flaws that keep his number of supporters relatively low.
@hamzanaveed4760 5 років тому
Book stannis is a just character. He'd never burn his daughter
@BPond7 4 роки тому
The usurper David Benioff... The usurper DB Weiss...
@menwithven8114 3 роки тому
Regardless of the final season(s) this is still one of the best shows in television history! They rode the coattails of phenomenal riding but still mostly succeeded at converting to film.
@Armorius2199 5 років тому
The battles from the books are way better!
@Armorius2199 5 років тому
RR Martin has read about some real battles!
@hitrapperandartistdababy 5 років тому
Argyrus 47 its very evidently especially with the Chain blockade! Nice touch that not alot of people knew where used by some in real life
@Armorius2199 5 років тому
@@hitrapperandartistdababy The Byzantines used one at Constantinople!
@hitrapperandartistdababy 5 років тому
Argyrus 47 exactly
@loganlebeau6185 5 років тому
We’re lucky we got any battles in the show. They skipped a bunch of them for budget I can only imagine. Shame though stuff like this makes the people behind the battles seem like they fought a few before.
@ragingsage3973 5 років тому
Siege of Constantinople(717) Asoiaf version
@damianmares5338 5 років тому
pretty much:)) although, the number of defenders(~7000) and their composition leans more towards the 1453 siege, as also does the wounding of a very important commander in a sally ( Giovanni Giustiniani in case of the 1453 siege), Tyrion in the books and series of course in real life the defenders lost that siege, whereas in Asoiaf they won
@ssa3101 5 років тому
@@damianmares5338 I think he is talking about the first seige of Constantinople. The one by the arabs.
@damianmares5338 5 років тому
@@ssa3101 I know what he's talking about:))))) I just pointed out that even if the 717 one was probably more similar to this, others have some similarities too. G.R.R.Marin does this a lot, taking inspiration from events in history , so I bet there are other details in the siege of Kings Landing that resemble events in real life.
@ssa3101 5 років тому
@@damianmares5338 ok
@Cancoillotteman 5 років тому
@@damianmares5338 For the defenders yes but the numbers of attackers are much closer to the 717 siege than the 1453. Same goes for the efficiency of the wildfire, and for the arrival of reinforcements.
@ThePhantomTomo Рік тому
It's crazy how just a little bit of better diplomacy could easily have assured victory for Stannis, Renly, and Robb. Robb's father died defending Stannis's claim to the throne. If Robb realized this, he could have been content being Warden in the North under Stannis as King, just like his father was for Robert. Renly is the next in line the throne after Stannis because Stannis has no sons, not for lack of trying. If Renly realized this and was patient, he could have helped his older brother and just become king later in life. And then both Barratheon armies working together with the Starks and Tullies could easily have overwhelmed the Lannisters. It seems like it's Stannis's fate to get perpetually screwed over by people who should be allies not being satisfied with arrangements that are still very much in their favor. It happens again later with Jon. Jon has the chance to make a beautiful wildling princess his wife and get turned into Jon Stark, Warden of of the North if he helped Stannis, but the dumb vows to weirwood trees mattered to him more.
@UFOSasquatch 5 років тому
COME WITH ME AND TAKE THIS CITY! -The One True King of Westeros
@kevanlannister3672 5 років тому
2:53 isnt the heir of Highgarden Willas Tyrell?
@aleksandersokal5279 5 років тому
They mixed up the book and the show, in the show Loras is the heir and he has no brothers, while in the books he is the younger brother of Willas and Garlan.
@generalgrievous5483 Рік тому
Damn Robb's failure to tell edmure of the real plan cost stannis the blackwater
@sakshampandey7342 5 років тому
I'm desperately waiting for a video on The Battle of Winterfell. The fact that the whole cavalry was used to charge at an enemy which was not going to lose morale or break ranks, because it was the undead, was just abysmally stupid. They were better suited for harassment, reconnaissance, logistics and communications. The Dothraki and the Unsullied were sacrificed for convenience and saving money and time. Then, the position of the infantry outside the walls, the absence of any trenches, a poor use of two dragons, no use of missile infantry, little to no force stationed on the walls and a pathetic line of stakes that was apparently mean to be a barrier, these factors prove that the battle or defence if you can call it that was planned by idiots. If their objective was to draw out the Night King, why not use Bran as the centre of communications and command, as well as for reconnaissance? The fact that they killed the Night King was due to sheer luck and poor writing, it was not an outcome of good planning or strategy. And I can write an essay about the show's pathetic writing.
@Geo35z 5 років тому
I agree it was definitely a poorly thought out battle and a bit disappointing. One thing I’m not as bothered about as other people are is the Dothraki charging though, in the show and book lore Dothraki are famous for being unbeaten on open ground, also Dothraki don’t fight skirmish tactics they are only loosely based around the huns and tribes of the steppe but don’t fight like them. One example in the books is when they charged something like 3k unsullied spears head on over and over again and totalled up something like 20k losses, because they valued strength above all else and would rather die than lose in an even contest. So I think it’s very reasonable that these people who have the strongest cavalry in the known world, weapons tipped with dragon glass and also ablaze that they would think they would make a sizeable dent on to the dead army, no ones ever fought the dead before they didn’t know. My problem is that they didn’t make a dent ! They should have ploughed straight through the dead. Rest of their tactics I agree with you were dog shit
@christianyepez1016 3 роки тому
I'm really glad you used the book lore instead of the show, it made this video age really well.
@danielsilvadesouza3060 2 місяці тому
You say book lore and Loras as heir to Highgarden?
@PrehistoricLEGO 5 років тому
The green flames They’re so beautiful
@TheGodTell 5 років тому
Stannis the Mannis, the one true king!!
@kunalm15 3 роки тому
Season 2 Episode 9 Blackwater still the best episode imo. Absolutely pulsating. A battle with proper strategies.
@legendarykoreanbbq5116 5 років тому
The Battle of the blackwater in the show was great. But in the books it is absolutely fantastic and truly shows just how smart and capable Tyrion is with how he rallies troops and his overall strategy. Keep in mind he isn't a military general either so this is some impressive shit. Good one Tyrion.
@SandeProHiQu 5 років тому
You should do the Battle of the Long Night with the brilliantly planned out suicide charge of the Dothraki and the genius "trebuchets on the frontline" strategy.
@4flx17 5 років тому
The battle between Stannis' forces and Lannister-Tyrell's forces took place at the other side of the Blackwater river...
@DamnedHistory 5 років тому
4flx17 If this is true, then nice work pointing it out!
@DeltaSergeant 3 роки тому
Dang. This was awesome! The battle makes so much sense now as to what happened! Because the show only portrayed one tiny aspect of it, even though it was an epic battle scene it didn't really make much sense. Kudos!
@nanookdiwi4543 4 роки тому
Stannis had the most underwhelming battle speech ever. "Come with me and take this city" Woo. Really inspiring.
@Jacob-ge1py 4 роки тому
He looked like he was going to say something epic too
@martino5742 2 роки тому
7:20 Qyburn not only mastered teleportation/jetpacks in later seasons, he also discovered time travel so as to plant scorpions on the walls before he even reached kings landing invented them!
@enjoythestruggle 8 місяців тому
A true evil genius Qyburn is.
@Xandergre 5 років тому
Your quality on your videos is always higher and higher.. Sky is the limit, keep it up lads!!
@AndieeeX 4 роки тому
Thank you for doing these videos :) I'm doing my first read through the series and I have a hard time digesting all of the action sequences, so I love watching your videos once I'm done reading the battle to help me visualize everything.
@mwangielijah 5 місяців тому
What I'm doing as well, after am done reading... I check the explanation to get the full view of the action
@josephicha9150 4 роки тому
"Hound, form a welcome party for any Baratheon troop that manages to touch our soil"
@Liberater4589 5 років тому
Are you basing the events on the books or show because in the books Loras isn't the heir to the reach
@Runningfromtheredqueen 5 років тому
It's even weirder since Garlan Tyrell is mentioned near the end. So it is based at least somewhat on the books since Garlan (and Willas) do not exist in the TV series.
@romaboo2293 5 років тому
pretty sure hes basing it off the books because of the chain and whatnot
@sharadowasdr 5 років тому
Considering the numbers involved it certainly seems closer to the books than the show. Then again the show did keep up with the books to a great extent with this battle, but they couldn't get the scale right.
@hitrapperandartistdababy 5 років тому
This is definteively based on the books, in the show there is no fighting between the Kings landing fleet and Stannis’s.
@UMPiCK24 5 років тому
Man the art is absolutely stunning, thanks for the hard work.
@MichaelWilliams-bw6he 3 роки тому
I long for the day when this glorious channel makes a video on how Stannis conquers the north. Wow needs to come out soon.
@voxer3060 5 років тому
I saw the battle of Blackwater 3 time on television, i read it on the books, but still, was great to see again on your video, very well made and written , great job.
@KingsandGenerals 5 років тому
Thanks for watching!
@ThatZommy 5 років тому
The art really took this to a new level. I don't know if yall made it yourself, or had it commissioned, or just collected it from other sources, but it really is great and makes the video even more enjoyable.
@KingsandGenerals 5 років тому
Made it ourselves. Thanks!
@otgunz 5 років тому
Thanks alot I draw them just for our channel! 👍
@TaSiNify 5 років тому
GOOD LORD!MY FAVORITE UKposts CHANNEL DOING VIDEOS ABOUT MY FAV BOOK SERIES...GOOD TYM TO BE ALIVE..:-)
@simonhagsten6799 5 років тому
MORE OF THIS!!! I also would love some battles of the Tolkien Universe. 2nd age, and 3rd age are full of epic battles
@petterlinden6105 5 років тому
We don't know for sure that Cersie was behind the atempt on Tyrions life, both Joffrey and Littlefinger are prime suspects.
@asasas9146 5 років тому
I even heard someone that it was Varys who wanted to force Tyrion to join him in Essos
@Saeronor 5 років тому
@@asasas9146 That hardly makes any sense, unless the assassin "purposefully almost killed" Tyrion, while Podrick knew where to stand at the right moment.
@n.c.kupfermann1023 5 років тому
@@asasas9146 but this is before the purple wedding.
@redblueproductions9739 4 роки тому
@@asasas9146 But Varys didn't go to Essos.
@jonVNTG 4 роки тому
I think Cercei admited in a Tyrion chapter, didn't her?
@drewfisher1619 5 років тому
In the first book, Eddard and his sons found an omen in the form of direwolf choked by a buck's antler. The more appropiate omen should have been direwolf choked to death eating fish.
@GomezSuper11 4 роки тому
Drew Fisher I don’t get it
@tuonglukim8973 3 роки тому
@@GomezSuper11 Because is was Catelyn Tully's bad decisions that led to Ned's death. She almost pushed Ned into the position of hand of the king, she didn't listen to Ned when he told her to go back to Winterfell and have Rob raise the banners, she took Tyrion when that was the worst thing she could do. Etc etc etc. Cat was one of the worst characters in GOT
@gfilmer7150 3 роки тому
@@tuonglukim8973 If Robb rose the banners then, Stannis would be King and there'd be no more corruption.
@tuonglukim8973 3 роки тому
@@gfilmer7150 Fewer.....
@gfilmer7150 3 роки тому
@@tuonglukim8973 There’d be fewer. Then there’d be none.
@talhasiam1573 5 років тому
The amount of thought process that went onto early battles was incredible and now it's just cavalry charging in blindly and dracarys
@notHere8801 4 роки тому
Thank you for this! I got very confused while reading the book and this visual really helps
@allenyork3239 5 років тому
Awesome simply Awesome now I'm looking forward to the Battle of the Wall with Knights Watch vs. Wildlings.
@gfilmer7150 4 роки тому
Same but the one from the books
@alexanderpavlovichromanov3065 5 років тому
First man onto the walls, last man to leave. COME WITH ME AND TAKE THIS CITY! The one true king Stannis!
@ruigerd 4 роки тому
Never seen your videos before but this was truly awesome. Hours of watching your UKposts videos are coming
@JaredKaiser24 4 роки тому
4:05 born amidst salt and smoke, is he a ham ? -Renly Baratheon
@harisahmed8009 5 років тому
Stannis the true king
@sam_culper7223 5 років тому
You really need to do a series on the Dance of tge Dragons! So many good battles
@liamdeane4836 5 років тому
This is amazing, exactly how i remember reading it! If only the show could match such brilliance instead of the bad fan-fic we have now
@jirisekanina4954 5 років тому
I read the books, and watched this series. But i dont remember or i totally forgot how detailed this battle was described. I guess i missed a lot if this was in the books and tv series. GJ
@NYCfrankie 5 років тому
This made my day
@KingsandGenerals 5 років тому
Glad to hear that!
@NYCfrankie 5 років тому
Only one mistake in the video loras isn't heir to highgarden its willas tyrell
@YaBoiFetz 5 років тому
GRRM seems to love the history of Constantinople
@siljapeters2836 4 роки тому
These video are so good. It really gives you a good picture of the battles♥️
@tibayeitamoses3211 3 роки тому
I wonder when these guys will release more videos on this series,i just love it
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 5 років тому
The One True King is coming for them all and will not stop until the land is scoured clean of abomination. The Baratheon words are "Ours is the Fury" Stannis will show the pretenders Fury Burns
@gfilmer7150 3 роки тому
As the smoke cleared, more Baratheon men emerged on top of the hill. In the front line, was Ser Clayton Suggs, holding a pike. On the blade of the pike, was the head of The Bastard of Bolton. The vanguard of the Baratheon Army was led by The Bastard of Eddard Stark, who drew Longclaw. He led a fierce charge down the hill, ripping through the Frey van. As intense fighting ensued, Ser Godry Farring and Richard Horpe both led two halves and crashed into the Lannister flanks. On the hilltop, was King Stannis Baratheon at the head of 500 cavalry. As Jon's center started to open up, Stannis' knights charged through the Frey lines and straight through the Lannister center. Within 5 minutes, the whole army collapsed. Every Frey and Lannister man captured was drowned in the river as retaliation for the massacre of Northmen at The Battle of The Green Fork two years prior. The Twins were burned and the food was added to Stannis' baggage train.
@barkley8285 5 років тому
Stannis casualties: -1500 survive -2500 left behind -5000 leave Stannis -3000 abandon -8000 killed
@golden_smaug 5 років тому
It looks so much better here than in the series
@shehansenanayaka3046 9 місяців тому
This is one of the best episodes in the book in this channel as well as in tv series. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. Brilliant video. Love and appreciation from Sri Lanka fan. ❤️🇱🇰🤝🏴
@dashiellgillingham4579 5 років тому
Tywin is the perpetual perfect choice for the second-in-command of an empire, as the way the man schemes almost always improves the stability and health of the seven kingdoms at large, even if it may be worse for his enemies on an individual level. Additionally he can be trusted to always support that which benefits his house the most in the long-term, and this consistency makes him easy to work with and around. Tywin does not rebel until he can be certain that the emperor has lost. Tyrion takes after his father, and will likely prove an equally skilled player once he achieves the level of experience his father managed before his irrational hatred of his son brought him down.
@LukeIsBig05 3 роки тому
I feel like in the show Stannis shouldn’t have died how he did, he’s was way to smart to charge winterfell like that.
@enjoythestruggle 8 місяців тому
One weird thing in the books is that Stannis is a good commander, Davos is sensible too, and then nearly everyone else in his army in high positions of command appears to be foolish. Imry Florent to name one, but a couple of others as well. It's weird because realistically the Baratheons would have to have had the most experienced commanders and soldiers, since they did the most work during Robert's Rebellion and Balon's Rebellion. It's somewhat unconvincing that Stannis wouldn't have better lieutenants surrounding him.
@abdelrahmanwael2551 3 роки тому
This was my favourite episode along with the defence of castle black
@JacquesOF 5 років тому
The best night battle on GOT. This time i can see the real battle.
@rakaman27 5 років тому
The map is wrong. Stannis' army had not finished crossing the river before they got caught by Tywin and the Reach's army.
@loganlebeau6185 5 років тому
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed. Thought I was misremembering for awhile. Also strange the ship bridge floating up river when everything should be moving toward the chain.
@executor5588 5 років тому
Map accuracy is not their thing, this is not the first time.
@HamsterInMyHead 5 років тому
Oh boy! Can't wait for the military analysis of the genius season 8 engagements!
@jona.scholt4362 3 роки тому
I cannot say how happy I was they mentioned it was Garlan and not Loras.
@PiscatorLager 3 роки тому
"Fuck the King!" - some Clegane dog
@killamonjaromon 5 років тому
Compare the level of writing in this battle with how High Garden was captured by the Lannisters in Season 7 with no explanation besides some excuse about their soldiers not being fighters and their sigil being a flower.
@aleksandersokal5279 5 років тому
Reachmen are actually far better Knights than westerlanders and can gather twice as big of an army.
@redblueproductions9739 4 роки тому
@@aleksandersokal5279 More than twice.
@serbanandreimarin5988 3 роки тому
I always thought the Reach was caught by complete surprise and that there was no army formed to oppose the Lannisters
@gfilmer7150 3 роки тому
@@serbanandreimarin5988 Some of the lords of The Reach joined The Lannisters but still, House Tyrell has 50,000 soldiers. That was half of Renly's army.
@hectortroy8671 3 роки тому
@@aleksandersokal5279 Feudalism doesn't even exist in the TV show. It's 7 absolute monarchies with standing armies and matching uniforms.
@dlr_rosa254 4 роки тому
This was so fun and beautifully made!!!
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