Game Theory: Ellie Is NOT Immune! (The Last of Us Part 2)

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The Last of Us franchise is a story of humanity trying to survive in the face of a virus turning people into fungus creatures that are not quite zombies. We learn early on in the first game that Ellie is immune, perhaps even the only immune person there is. This makes her invaluable to those trying to find a cure. Except, I think she may not be immune. The second game shows a lot of evidence that something else may be going on with Ellie. Something that may tell us the future direction of this story and the future of Ellie.
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@tameronica 3 роки тому

Other people: _dies horrifically from zombie infections_ Ellie: "uh oh i got a cold" *_dies_*

@mrsmartypants1987 3 роки тому

Imagine if this was a ending

@capybaratherapy7970 3 роки тому

Roll credits

@jwdathefax377 3 роки тому

NeverLookBack - Nope...sorry I couldn’t resist no more than you could. Lol

@eyezz0 3 роки тому

No it's got to be something else, this theory could be close but probably not correct.

@om_point 3 роки тому

Just some Forest Ranger with Internet Access unless you’re a reincarnation of someone who died via flu in a past life, then I’m curious as to how you’d know which is more a pleasant way to die lol

@4567samsung 3 роки тому

the sad thing about this is that there would be more people actually immune for the same reason but resort to just killing themselves "before they turn" when they get bitten or accidentally breath spores so they would never know they could survive

@theknittingkat 3 роки тому

That’s such a good point! But now I’m sad lol

@dantedash 3 роки тому

this is why i would never kill myself if i was bitten by a zombie or infected by like the t-virus or something because just what if i was immune or just wasn't going to die? and if i do turn into a zombie i wouldn't even have the ability to care ab it lol

@PhoenixRising166 3 роки тому

@@dantedash infection is supposed to kick in little by little, so you'll be aware of it before you fully turn into an infected. That's when you have a shot at finishing it off for good or let nature run its course and become an aspiring rat king limb lol

@MementoMori7777 2 роки тому

When the alternative is turning into something like a clicker or bloater, I'd rather just be dead.

@claire9672 2 роки тому

they’d totally know if they were immune if they’d breath in spores bcs either you can or you can’t lmaoo

@Grebeny Рік тому

I was always thinking how Ellie was not alone, the others with her condition were just shot because of positive test. And when I started watching the series with my parents, my mother pointed out that they can't know if others are immune because they kill them if test is positive.

@Rothbourne Рік тому

Or died from a cold :P

@MrsDeeDee313 Рік тому

Your mother could be right that there were others who could have been so called immune too, but got killed immediately upon a positive test. Ellie herself could have/and would have been killed many times due to her positive test reading.

@kentrussel9221 Рік тому

the boy from the first episode could have been immune

@NatureFreak1127 Рік тому

That's both incredibly depressing and very likely.

@jaroldscottwilliams.3rd832 6 місяців тому

Which is just crazy considering how easy it is that you can get a false positive for real life viruses.

@Masonhill76 Рік тому

The one flaw in this, Ellie was bitten by someone with the “wrong” type. Meaning she must have ingested the “right” type before she got bit. That would be the only way she wouldn’t turn. Otherwise, she’s actually immune

@arlom5132 Рік тому

Exactly. Maybe we'll get a flashback to when she got the other kind in Part 3

@jonanik3091 Рік тому

I think Part 3 will be based around ellie’s infection. I watched a theory that Part 3 could be about Abby joining the fireflies and when she arrives she learns they have rebuilt a lab with scientists that were her fathers protege’s and the reason they rebuilt a lab is because they found another immune person. They eventually get attacked before the surgery is complete and the immune survivor gets burned, destroying their brain and therefore cannot be tested on. Abby knows where to find another immune survivor and searches for Ellie across the country with an old and mentally/physically damaged Tommy. The plot is then based around forgiveness and trust as Tommy gets injured on the journey and Lev decides to stay with him to protect him while Abby and Ellie clear a path from raiders or another faction of sorts. Abby and Ellie team up and survive together Ellie and Dina style and begin to talk to each other slowly, forming a bond and connection and the rest of the theory is up for just interpretation as the part 3 theory was. But man a Part 3 with ellie and abby forming a friendship to save whats left of mankind sounds awesome, and imagine the flash backs of Ellie and Joel and Tommy.

@rocketsbass3867 Рік тому

Ellies mom was bitten shortly before Ellie was born so

@agffans5725 10 місяців тому

@@rocketsbass3867 .. her mother did not turn, but was shot because they assumed that she would turn, so we do not know if she was also immune.

@Sickle2z2 5 місяців тому

Had the same idea while watching this

@stcxps526 3 роки тому

“She’s not immune because she’s already infected and can’t turn into a zombie “ Me: so she’s immune

@brittroobies274 3 роки тому

Immune to one type.

@LannasMissingLink 3 роки тому

@@brittroobies274 one type? Each zombie is just the spores growing over time

@brittroobies274 3 роки тому

@@LannasMissingLink What point are you trying to make because you haven't made one. I'll explain to save time: Using the theory in the video, the most we can say is she's either immune to one type of the virus or all other types of the virus. Those who emit spores are emitting spores from the same type (zombie) virus. Ellie is already infected with a different strain of the virus that combats against the zombie making strain or (in theory) all other strains that she doesn't have.

@LannasMissingLink 3 роки тому

@@brittroobies274 I'm just gonna ignore your entire essay there. I was still watching the essay when I responded to you so I made a mistake

@brittroobies274 3 роки тому

@@LannasMissingLink You clearly haven't seen what an actual essay looks like. But I accept the acknowledgement of your mistake. Next time watch the entire thing and think before you try to make a conflicting statment. Good day (or evening) to you.

@no_refunds4U 3 роки тому

Ellie: *Gets mad at Joel* Joel: *proceeds to talk for over 16 minutes about how she's not actually immune and killing her wouldn't do anything*

@thekidwhogotframed8868 3 роки тому

If the doctors weren't retarded and understood what was happening with ellie killing her would be useless since they can find the same cordyceps infectjng ellie and make it it immunizes them while making there immjne system still good

@Rageren 3 роки тому

Joel was right. Ellie's life was more important. If a cure wasn't created in the first decade of the apocalypse... Then it would be a waste of time in the following 20 years. Joel made the right choice.

@CosmicTheOtaku 3 роки тому

@@thekidwhogotframed8868 Um the doctors wrote all that down in the span of say an hour or two. They didnt have a lot of time to work with before Joel went on his killing spree....Amazing to call someone retarded while showing the same signs.

@kirknay 3 роки тому

@@thekidwhogotframed8868 heck, just sample with a miniscule spinal tap, and put it in a petri dish.

@jonyprepperisrael60 3 роки тому

@@thekidwhogotframed8868 well give them a break,the medical school has been closed for at least 20 years

@41tinman41 Рік тому

Coming back here after the reveal on how Ellie was born might have the key to explaining why she isn't turning into a zombie. Anna (her mom) got bit right as she was being born, and before her umbilical cord was cut. That might be how Ellie's newborn self was inoculated with the cordyceps infection but at a much smaller amount so much so that as she grew up, her body got used to it and it didn't have the serious effects on her.

@kirstenjackson2172 Рік тому

yes bc babies develop extremely rapidly with stem cells in a way that adults don't

@bookofsean8793 10 місяців тому

I think you're right, maybe ellie was never been bitten but has cordyseps to her blood when anna cut the thing on her so it became like its normal to her condition

@mrx-od3ji 9 місяців тому

@@bookofsean8793 she was bitten but she never turned so she lmmune.

@kaitlynmorgan4613 9 місяців тому

@@mrx-od3jithey mean before she was bitten lol

@Stookinator 9 місяців тому

i think it DID have serious effects. a symbiotic relationship if i might add. she doesnt die instantly to bullets ingame, allowing the virus inside her not die instantly (lore for why she isnt that squishy ingame)

@irosquaredboku 7 місяців тому

Rewatching this episode after going through a medical lab tech program, I immediately paused at the CBC screenshot and read through. One thing, though, MatPat: Hematocrit is not a type of cell, it's the percentage of cells in your blood to the serum. Similarly, for the doctors note on the elevated level in her serum and CSF, he's talking about the levels in her *blood* serum and cerebral spinal fluid, not just her central nervous system.

@SlimeCrime121 3 роки тому

Ellie : Breathes in spores. Matt : “Just hold on a second”

@khangdo6822 3 роки тому

Ellie got bite many time but not once.

@AuveenGlynn 3 роки тому

She shoved her hand in to the mouth of a clicker xD

@2ttrashwagon582 3 роки тому

It’s more like, matpat: hold my Diet Coke

@culps96 3 роки тому

You beat me by 2 days

@dxhollow2520 3 роки тому

LMAO FAX 😂😂😂

@MrMauser33 3 роки тому

Now my medical degree comes in handy: Having a disease from one family of diseases sometimes makes you immune to others from the same family. That's how vaccination was discovered: People with cowpox didn't get normal pox. Cowpox isn't deadly though. People might just become immune to the Zombie-fungus after one infection but never survive long enough for that to happen. Ellie got infected by one version of that fungus and became immune. The fungus is a immunosupressant, yes, but not strong enough to stop the immune system from keeping zombiefication away. So she could infect other people, making them immune as well, essentially enabling the vaccination from Part 1 again.

@aurin_komak 3 роки тому

Lmao now I'm just imagining Ellie just biting everyone

@MrMauser33 3 роки тому

@@aurin_komak Didn't get that idea, but yes, might work :D

@akayefeagar6529 3 роки тому

This won't work. Ellie was bitten by a infected human ( or whatever you want call them ). This means she did NOT get the non-threatening version of the cordyceps. Meaning she is immune. I don't exactly remember, but in part 2 jerry ( abby's father ) says that the mutated infection remnants has intertwined with the brain. That means she has to be infected, but she's not.

@aarongalicia7621 3 роки тому

@@akayefeagar6529 Well Ellie could have gotten infected by the different strand before getting bitten by some cause. Ellie says in part 2 that she can't share her immunity tho

@akayefeagar6529 3 роки тому

Aaron Galicia Uhh I forgot about that. Thanks man.

@sleepie1035 Рік тому

Heres my theory, maybe ellies body doesnt fight the infection such as its said. where other peoples body for some reason do. and when the infection feels some pushback it goes into defensive mode and locksdown the entire body which causes the full infection. And since ellie's never fights the infection it feels no need to fight her and just continues to live within her body like a symbiotic relationship.

@loganmontgomery535 Рік тому

I was thinking that too! 😂

@raresradoi39 Рік тому

I mean, that's not really how any fungi/viruses/bacteria work and we finally got the explanation in the tv show

@luna-zw3rd Рік тому

I rlly wish he would do another theory now since the series is out and the explanation that they give us is basically: "her mother got bitten when she was born so shes used to it" even though I find Matts explanation better 😭

@luna-zw3rd Рік тому

I just wanna know if their explanation actually makes sense in some way

@oscarvc10 Рік тому

@@luna-zw3rd not for me persoanlly, Ellie got bit by a regular zombie as well as Riley, and she died. How could she be infected prior to that? By spores maybe? I don't buy it, even without the 'official' show explanation.

@rocketsbass3867 Рік тому

@@oscarvc10 Huh? Explain further, not sure what your point is.

@agffans5725 10 місяців тому

No reason for a new theory, because Ellie's mother did not turn, but was shot because they assumed that she would turn, so we do not know if she actually also was immune.

@kaitlynmorgan4613 9 місяців тому

tbh im gonna consider the tv series as its own universe. they changed a lot and probably added things that are incorrect or unnecessary (like why would marlene keep ellie chained in a room 💀💀)

@iphito7539 3 роки тому

So to save the world everyone has to get high on mushrooms.

@IggyTheLighskinWonder 3 роки тому

@PepperyPancake but actually yes

@joshagee8251 3 роки тому

Yep

@albedokreideprinz1012 3 роки тому

Basically

@pokest45-pz52 3 роки тому

Only to get killed by every other non-fungal disease

@elijahhernandez7033 3 роки тому

This is the way...

@chokoon21 3 роки тому

*plottwist:* It was actually the one zombie that bit Ellie that is immune to spreading infections

@DoctorNub 3 роки тому

Then Riley wouldn’t have turned or was she bitten by a different one? I can’t remember

@EditedAF987 3 роки тому

Scott they were bitten by different runners

@wajidlatif4666 3 роки тому

Ellie is bit twice

@capitanorejitas4459 3 роки тому

But Ellie can breath spores

@askaveng7911 3 роки тому

Why was that human who bit her turned into a zombie then? If they have also been "immune"

@n0zzaaxkx850 Рік тому

In the series that released this year, it showed that Ellie's mum was bit by a zombie just before giving birth, and since the umbilical cord is connected the cordyceps entered Ellie through the cord right before birth, therefore when she was bitten the cordyceps already thought she was infected so it didn't attack her.

@rl-762 Рік тому

It could be also like how ebola works. Using the body’s immune system to “activate” the virus. Perhaps the zombification requires the acidic environment of immune cells and since she’s immunocompromised she doesn’t get infected because the fungus never “activated”

@EonServoXA 2 роки тому

What's interesting is that in the farm, if you go in Ellie's journal, she was complaining about her eyes hurting a lot and that's typically the first area where the fungus attacks

@michelleb6569 2 роки тому

ptsd causes eye pain.

@MariaEduarda-fp4xz 2 роки тому

she was hallucinating and not sleeping???

@saul6160 Рік тому

@@michelleb6569 didn’t she get bitten again tho?

@saul6160 Рік тому

@@MariaEduarda-fp4xz v sure she got bitten again

@drytoaster Рік тому

@@saul6160 she did

@am3thysts 3 роки тому

Fireflies: “How can we cure ourselves and protect ourselves?” Ellie: “Get infected.”

@41tinman41 3 роки тому

So if Ellie starts biting people, they'd be saved. Kinda like that cannibal dude. Heh, too bad he died with a serious case of machete to the face.

@dethmaul 3 роки тому

@@41tinman41 When i played, i thought she DID infect him. That's why he was so creepy and aggressive during the final fight. He was slowly turning. I guess he wasn't, and he was just pissed off at her lol

@kakashi6957 3 роки тому

Ben Anasarias didn’t she say with Dina “I can’t get you infected if that’s what your wondering I can’t get you immune ether” so how would that work would her sailva be her strain of the virus? And get Dina immune

@phoenixdarkmoon8040 Рік тому

I think the showwriters watched your videos matpat cause they changed up the explanation for Ellie's immunity in the show

@kylergonzales6677 Рік тому

Wait they did?

@Kiwissz Рік тому

They changed it because its hard to show emotions through a gas mask because of spores. They wanted it to be more realistic.

@herobrines8thbrother886 Рік тому

in the "Left Behind" dlc to the first game, Ellie gets bit by an infected. She mentions in the main game that her friend Riley also got bit and turned into an infected. Since the cordyceps originated in flour, (as theorized in a theory from much later than this video) she couldn't have been given the strain of cordyceps you claim she has because there would be too much risk in making flour, or let alone farm the wheat necessary... But don't quote me on that...

@Mo-vr1ep 3 роки тому

So Ellie should running around biting people to spread her "version" of cordyceps.

@wantedinnit69420 3 роки тому

yes

@momom9916 3 роки тому

No need for a vaccine. End of story. Haha

@DeepakKumar-ud9by 3 роки тому

@@momom9916 yeah . Easy work.

@rage.kitten 3 роки тому

Or... ya know... they could just find a source of the cordyceps that she has.

@BertoxolusThePuzzled 3 роки тому

I want TLOU 3 to just be Ellie running around saving and then biting people before disappearing, almost like a zombie apocalypse Batman (bonus points if she comes with a jaw or tooth-based costume, like maybe she throws jawarangs she spat on XD). Can't be worse than part 2... lol...

@yoyoyoaliman 3 роки тому

*in Thanos' voice* "I used the Cordyceps to destroy the Cordyceps."

@Ksanthecat 3 роки тому

That almost killed me...

@yoyoyoaliman 3 роки тому

@@Ksanthecat oops 😬

@braylonshambry9680 3 роки тому

I almost died laughing

@Galaxverse 3 роки тому

Lmao dude

@philyfighter4 3 роки тому

Lmao but isn't that what a vaccine is?

@escher4401 Рік тому

It would also be interesting if she were in a symbiotic relationship with the fungus. They could use this to give her special fugi powers.

@janlordkennethiran5256 Рік тому

lmao

@JOEYZ-nq2gn Рік тому

Thank god you had nothing to do with writing the story

@lemonsink7869 7 місяців тому

Yeah like turn into your long gone father since she is Miranda from RE8

@sirenwantsbodilyautonomy Рік тому

If Ellie is infected with a different fungus, doesn't that mean whichever zombie bit her, would also have go be infected with the same type of fungus? Which then in turn should mean that it wouldn't have bitten her?

@MarkMetEenC Рік тому

No she got the 'harmless' cordyceps somewhere before she got bitten by the zombie. The zombie-cordyceps couldn't take a hold because of the anti-fungal chemical.

@KillerOfTheShadow Рік тому

@@MarkMetEenC why aren't there more like her?

@randomerjr3182 Рік тому

@@KillerOfTheShadow Maybe it was a very rare case that she got the "harmless" cordyceps, therefore she is the only one whose gotten it yet

@krio1267 Рік тому

she ate cordyceps before it decided to infect humans, thats how

@Persephone3.14 10 місяців тому

@@KillerOfTheShadow It's possible that others have got it, they just got shot or killed themselves because they tested positive.

@evergreen9850 3 роки тому

Game: 18+ Mothers: i gave this to my 5 year old son to play and this is so unacceptable

@vunknownvictory 3 роки тому

Wait what

@pentadominis481 3 роки тому

Im 9 my dad told my mom to get the last of us 2 and now my mom is telling me to hide from the wlf and zombies in the game.

@zecarrinho4940 3 роки тому

@@pentadominis481 now that's hilarious 😂

@nightmarekingprimalaspid6133 3 роки тому

@@zecarrinho4940 indeed

@buyjuanget1free 3 роки тому

I’m 12 and it’s sick, bruh.

@glitch____2323 3 роки тому

Ellie: I'm immune Mattpat: Well no but actually yes

@explodezluvsu7872 3 роки тому

You mean: Well yes but actually no

@toastguy210 3 роки тому

You mean: That’s completely correct

@explodezluvsu7872 3 роки тому

Toast Toast no it’s not.

@goofygoober622 3 роки тому

how the zombie, that bit ellie, turned into a zombie if they have a good cordyceps in their body?

@LineOfThy Рік тому

@@toastguy210 no, it's convoluted

@TopAsHats 5 місяців тому

Pretty sure that her mother got infected before ellie was born leading to immunity since she has been exposed as a kid with a little bit of it so she learned how to live with it/he body learned

@TopAsHats 5 місяців тому

But meh idk

@0lixia698 Рік тому

i actually find how funny it is that this entire video proves how she immune.

@randomlittleidot 3 роки тому

intro : has glitch people who watched latest film Theroy : this is strangely familiar

@waluigi7331 3 роки тому

Eat your cereal

@enderduckster 3 роки тому

Yeah thats what i was wondering

@WireWhiz 3 роки тому

I'm sensing another ARG

@clarkbaty1356 3 роки тому

Ngl maybe a new channel???

@beepbeeplettuce4892 3 роки тому

S u s p i c i o u s

@TonyHimbo 3 роки тому

I’ve never felt more called out when he talked about just listening to UKposts videos XD

@lubnakhan1547 3 роки тому

Sorry but what is ADHD?

@tangyonions 3 роки тому

@@lubnakhan1547 google it

@godofkarma1260 3 роки тому

I just use these videos for background noise

@skystormy2485 3 роки тому

@@lubnakhan1547 attention deficit hyperactive disorder

@cameronjadewallace 3 роки тому

I had to look up from my Skyrim playing to be guilty

@EggoWaffles682 Рік тому

Something *serious* Serious black: “you called?”

@Theultrabean 7 місяців тому

I thought he was going to say ‘Ellie couldn’t have ben infected by the zombie type of cordyceps because she has plot armor’

@jakeells66 3 роки тому

Matt: "Ellie's not immune, she's immune!"

@mtwdew 3 роки тому

What

@annasilvestre2984 3 роки тому

Essentially, but it’s because of the cordyceps, not her dna

@jcgabon7593 3 роки тому

She just have a different kind of cordysept that will not let other cordysept in her body

@Shadowslayer-ty9sl 3 роки тому

It’s more like Matt: Ellie’s not immune, she’s infected

@NoHandle44 3 роки тому

It's like if she was infected with the venom symbiote, and the symbiote fought off all kinds of infections.

@haileymiller4122 Рік тому

I thought of something else. Somebody talks about that Ellies mom got infected while she was pregnant with Ellie. So I was thinking that the fungus got into Ellie system before she was born, making her immune.

@YN-vw1jz Рік тому

:o *big brainzzz*

@bottledwater3557 Рік тому

@@YN-vw1jz cringe!!!

@YN-vw1jz Рік тому

@@bottledwater3557 cringe doesnt exist yall are just toxic

@bottledwater3557 Рік тому

@@YN-vw1jz nah cause ive only seen band kids say "big brain" after 2018

@YN-vw1jz Рік тому

@@bottledwater3557 oop. I said big brains a lot tbh

@LiMete Рік тому

HE WAS RIGHT (kind of)

@radubogdan100 Рік тому

You just explained how imunity works. One root of a virus can give you imunity for other roots. Of course, I don't think that any of that applies to fungal dissease, but the plot can go on even with your story.

@dog8438 Рік тому

I feel like this theory just proves _how_ Ellie is immune, not that she's not immune.

@GingerCatGaming Рік тому

I mean, technically she *isn't* immune, immunity would mean her own body wouldn't be affected by it - like, if she somehow gets rid of her current infection, the other strain can and would turn her into a zombie. She just happens to have built-in armor, which isn't really the same thing.

@p.icolo1319 Рік тому

EXACTLY

@Puuuurrrr Рік тому

She isn't immune though she did contract the fungal infection it's just that she conveniently contracted the strain that also acts as a fungal repellent by virtue of being stronger by being able to displace any of the other more dangerous strains.

@the_sky_is_blue1239 Рік тому

Exactly. Like this is how the first small pox vaccine was created. Because the antibodies for both cow pox and small pox are the same so when we were exposed to cow pox our bodies create the anti bodies. Same thing goes for this fungus. Her body has created antibodies due to exposure of a similar but harmless fungus that can fight off this fungus

@johnpettiford6547 Рік тому

According to immunology, as the video explained, what Ellie has does not define as “immune“

@melimelon5368 3 роки тому

Ellie: You can’t defeat me! Zombie Cordyceps: I know, but he can! *Common Cold has entered the chat*

@overlord267 3 роки тому

That's what makes MatPat's theory BS. With a weakened immune system and if a common cold is present, she would definitely get it. So, he's telling me that she avoided the common cold for 5 years in a cowboy type setting? That's pure BS

@vorinz 3 роки тому

Not only common cold, but with the amount of injuries she must have had, it should have been impossible for her to survive its infections.

@yeeter201lol8 3 роки тому

@@overlord267 its not if its a theory

@animebio5497 3 роки тому

@@yeeter201lol8 Logic 100

@sanhakim1335 3 роки тому

@@overlord267 Her having a weakened immune system isn't the conclusion of the theory. It's the evidence given to us by the game 8:10. if you have a problem with Ellie surviving so long without getting a cold, it's the game developers you should be mad at, not matpat

@AmbershadeParanormalDepartment Рік тому

He said "she MOST LIKELY isn't immune", so you can't hate because this is another not-so-sure-theory.

@raresradoi39 Рік тому

With the explanation given to us in the last episode of the tv show, I'm guessing maybe they didn't pay too much attention to the numbers on that blood test. Still, I'm curious why the cordyceps she got from her mother didn't affect her.

@huuhwhat 3 роки тому

so basically theres a good fungi inside of ellie saying "no u" to every other bad fungi :/

@2Trulyy 3 роки тому

That’s literally what was established in the first game

@locman03 3 роки тому

@@2Trulyy No, they say she is inmune. No one consider that she is a normal girl that have the luck to be infected by another kind of fungus, they think that she is special and according to this theory, she is not

@mrsplashman8308 3 роки тому

Germán Pablo Helfenberger at the end of the game they clearly state that it was the fungus in her brain that had mutated that made her “immune”

@2lucky53 3 роки тому

@@locman03 They established that the Fungi in her brain has mutated thus making her immune

@devan6696 3 роки тому

Probably had a yeast infection 😂

@sandiseferp352 3 роки тому

* Someone gets bit by zombie * but im the main character the virus: understandable have a great day

@whisperz1893 3 роки тому

Lmao

@julia-qj1dq 3 роки тому

Underrated comment lol

@Dudae_ 3 роки тому

Good thing it's not a virus then 😕

@vincentmorgan1767 3 роки тому

Sucks Crane didn’t have that plot armor in Dying Light

@fishtaco5735 3 роки тому

sandisefer p comedi

@jorgesandoval7401 11 місяців тому

She literally got bit 2 times and went thru spores,she’s inmune

@ivanbituin9023 Рік тому

You were riiiiiiight!!! As far as the show goes anyway. Called it 2 years early lol. Nice job.

@mrmachineguy6972 5 місяців тому

the show doesnt really confirm what he says at all...

@SirGary 3 роки тому

So, at the end of the day... she IS immune lol

@Nighto 3 роки тому

I mean... Well... Yeah.

@Bluestar75291 3 роки тому

Yes and no. Is inmune in the sense that a different cordyceps keeps her body safe while hosting it from other cordyceps... But it is not in the sense that she is already infected by a cordyceps

@khatunamezvrishvili6211 3 роки тому

If the other cordyceps just disappears then not really idk

@Bluestar75291 3 роки тому

It is like saying that you had not seen the glory of lord of the rings because you saw the movie and not the books... Or something like that, I guess... Or maybe nor

@SirGary 3 роки тому

@@bartudundar3193 Soooo... she is immune.

@zacksilverstone7642 3 роки тому

Ellie: got infected with a fungal strain that helps fight off the fungal zombie strain. Me, a hopeless romantic: "... Now THAT'S a keeper."

@bloodyknees1630 3 роки тому

That's brilliant.

@zuwert9743 3 роки тому

mat pat please do petscop therer are 2 more episodes

@ehsanali6352 3 роки тому

zuwert why are u telling this dude lol

@zuwert9743 3 роки тому

@@ehsanali6352 he might see it

@vonpyra Рік тому

So TV Show confirms that.

@Stookinator 9 місяців тому

im tellin yall, symbiotic relationship she doesnt get immediatly killed by normal human things, and the virus strain she has doesnt die

@Azzrenoza 3 роки тому

wow, the last of us took the "if you can t beat them join them" at whole other level

@marcellebestbrathwaite8588 3 роки тому

Lol

@uwatrkoda9131 3 роки тому

I’m laughing so much xD

@chickenfingers4281 Рік тому

I always felt like Ellie’s infection just evolved to a different form of symbiosis. Cordyceps is an ascomycota fungi, also known as a sac fungi. Cordyceps has a parasitic relationship with its host. However, I believe Ellie’s fungus functions in a mutualistic way. Fungus is less parasitic than one might think. Fungi actually evolved alongside plants. A lot of fungi actually has a mutualistic relationship with plants; this relationship is SO prominent it was given a name: mycorrhizae. I believe the cordyceps mutation is a valid explanation to why her chart was so weird. However, I also believe the mutated cordyceps is improving her physical condition, much like some fungi do with plants. This could be a result of the fungus evolving to NOT kill its host, because it is more beneficial to the fungus. Now, what I don’t understand is WHY THEY HAD TO REMOVE HER BRAIN TO MAKE THE VACCINE! They were literally growing fungal cultures with her blood. If this theory was correct, they would’ve been able to differentiate the fungus through the brown cultures. Why did they have to remove the WHOLE fungus to get results? It just doesn’t make sense. Anyway, thx for the vid.

@wulfheort8021 Рік тому

Didn't fungi evolve separate from plants? I always hear they are more animal-like than plant-like.

@pengpengu5551 Рік тому

@@wulfheort8021 I think when Chicken said ".. evolving alongside plant" is.. the symbiosis itself evolves? Likeee Plant A and Fungi B turned into organism C and the organism C evolves or maybe it's referring to how the symbiosis relationship itself evolves.. #CMIIW tho, that's just what I understand, might be wrong XDD cheers!

@wulfheort8021 Рік тому

@@pengpengu5551 Mate I have no clue myself to be honest

@pengpengu5551 Рік тому

@@wulfheort8021 ehh cool, pls share!

@wulfheort8021 Рік тому

@@pengpengu5551 oops, the "no" was left out

@asdadd6304 10 місяців тому

From the future, in the Last of Us tv series, it’s explained that Ellie was born while her mother was in the process of being infected, and had her umbilical cord cut before the cordiceps could fully take root in her. They then say that it gave her “messenger cells” that convince the cordiceps that she’s already infected and so to not zombify her.

@brandonboss6868 Рік тому

I always thought the way Ellie reacted to her bite may have something to do with it. Maybe her blood pressure or w.e science words, when she was going on a rampage, it may have overwhelmed the fungus infection. So I always thought, well hey, if you get bit, go on a rampage.

@TwilightAndCherry 3 роки тому

The latest last of us episode: Ellie can save the world Now: Fungi can save the world

@NuggetOG 3 роки тому

Next: Nukes can save the world

@sixloki1232 3 роки тому

Next: nuggets can save the world

@coletrainhetrick 3 роки тому

These videos are stupid though, they demonstrate why the games would never have happened, thus demonstrating how is real world science had no application to the laws of science in this world. Hes basically proving why the apocalypse cant happen to begin with so it's just clearly not applicable to the actual game

@mrright4519 3 роки тому

@@coletrainhetrick I agree hahaha

@niftylittlename3929 3 роки тому

@@coletrainhetrick you clearly dont get the point of this video "remember, its just a theory, A GAME THEORY" the point of this video is to pick a fictional scenario and apply it to the real world, thus making an interesting video AND making us learn more about the game and the real world, this just makes the game more interesting, thinking of the devs thought everything through, and how. accurate it actually is!

@maysondae2904 3 роки тому

1: Ellie bit Abby in a fight, does that mean she's immune too? 2: How did the zombie that bit her get her infected with the wrong Cordyceps when the zombie had the right type? (if that makes any sense)

@DailyDotaTV 3 роки тому

We've seen that breathing in some spores can infect you. She might have inhaled some good spores in her past making her already infected before the bite

@hlogilehlogonolo5438 3 роки тому

Almost Evil, good spores????

@shalomsilvestre9085 3 роки тому

@@hlogilehlogonolo5438 watch the vid

@ramiere1412 3 роки тому

She cant infect people she said that in both games

@DailyDotaTV 3 роки тому

@@hlogilehlogonolo5438 did you see the video man? 😅 yes the good fungus ones which are keeping her human.

@Danny_der_wahre Рік тому

Seeing that the TV show actually took that theory and put it into the main story just makes me happy

@Danny_der_wahre Рік тому

Me too

@dingdong7997 Рік тому

@@Danny_der_wahre you forgot to switch accounts bud

@miaomeow69 Рік тому

Me too.

@finnlarkin1757 Рік тому

If you think about it elis fungus IS a vacine for the zombie one it just doesnt act or behave in the same way

@ragekid2423 3 роки тому

So basically. Ellie has a different version of the fungi infection. Which also prevents her from becoming a crazy fungal zombie.

@LordCrow__ 3 роки тому

Yeah. But I still think about how did she get infected with the wrong Fungi? She got bitten by a Zombie. Did the Zombie have both , the good and the bad Fungi? That wouldn't make any sense tho when the good Fungi fights off others.

@andreasioannides5780 3 роки тому

@@LordCrow__ maybe she got it before the 1st bite

@LordCrow__ 3 роки тому

@@andreasioannides5780 ye but how tho?

@TheICEgirl6100 3 роки тому

@@LordCrow__ inhaling its spores?

@ozll9297 3 роки тому

This was already known lot of videos already cover this

@meisterk1058 3 роки тому

Me, who didn't played the second game, : interesting

@SnrubSource 3 роки тому

i wish i could unplay it

@SkyFullOfCosplay 3 роки тому

Snrub can y’all just say you hate it and move tf on. Not everyone agrees that it wasn’t good. Just move on with your life if you wish you could unplay it

@SnrubSource 3 роки тому

@@SkyFullOfCosplay no

@SnrubSource 3 роки тому

@0o0Lucky_Cat0o0 ok

@SnrubSource 3 роки тому

@0o0Lucky_Cat0o0 no, i meant i don't care.

@RanposPowderedDonuts Рік тому

I was listening to this while drawing. Nice theory man,

@JackLeininger-dm2id 7 місяців тому

In the game it says that she has a mutated version of the fungus that makes her immune

@leggomyeggo5773 3 роки тому

the other last of us episode: ellie is immune now: yeah no

@eltypical1337 3 роки тому

Are you still alive

@AlexG32777 3 роки тому

The first theory still makes sense though

@charlottehughes7378 3 роки тому

Well she is to the bad fungi mutating people, just infected by another that results in her immunity to said fungi.

@viktorvaughn8192 3 роки тому

@MF GTM agreed lmao

@anonymoususer6526 3 роки тому

@MF GTM *science

@theshiniestgoldenegg160 3 роки тому

"Ellie is not immune" Everyone: *Stares with great confusion*

@viktorvaughn8192 3 роки тому

But at the end she is still immune cuz her cordyceps protects the zombie zeps.... so still immune in a sense

@robertagren9360 3 роки тому

Ellie is the disease

@felipeandrade9408 3 роки тому

*Stares motherfuckerly*

@ethannewland3109 3 роки тому

@@backwardslash You have transcended human intelligence

@robertagren9360 3 роки тому

@@backwardslash They'll be infected and get sick. The body think It's an invader of the body. Maybe die like mentioned, Ellie should be dead by now.

@ttvbetboster4316 7 місяців тому

He did not just find the cure to zombie apocalypse.

@manbrodude6986 Рік тому

This was confirmed in the show now

@ExcieXC 3 роки тому

Question: if Ellie bites someone, does she infect someone else with her immunosuppressed cordyceps?

@aliyahbadillo 3 роки тому

nah she bit david and he didn't turn and in her journal in part II she wrote about kissing a girl and was scared about whether or not she could get her infected, but she didn't

@watyhu99 3 роки тому

@@aliyahbadillo I don't see how that contradicts their point in any way....the statement was implying that if Ellie could spread her "immunity"... Which none of the characters would even know if they were...

@atomic_wink813 3 роки тому

She bit Abby in the game and she didn’t turn so yea

@mort2034 3 роки тому

These "didnt turn, so..." comments are pissing me off -.- Learn to read. Ellie didn't turn when she got bit either. OP is talking about the immunity fungi, not the zombie fungi.

@watyhu99 3 роки тому

@@mort2034 I know right....these people got smooth brains.

@carl1592 3 роки тому

that "doctor" was probably young enough and not been able to finish his medical studies because of outbreak, plus 20 years into the future without knowing new knowledge, and some knowledge lost during that 20 year span, its probably that the best doctors are dead and we're left with freshly graduated students/not-able-to-finish--medical-school-students.

@mackeye. 3 роки тому

damm thats smart thinking right there

@EgotisticalAltruist 3 роки тому

Plus he was a dentist

@nsl_black8053 3 роки тому

I just finished yr 1 of med school and can tell that the Vaccine approach doesn’t make sense. I don’t think he is a real doctor...

@Retrogaming450 3 роки тому

Exactly what I thought in fact doctors could’ve been the first to go since stupid people probably took the zombies to hospitals cuz they thought they could cure em

@factpremiershow546 3 роки тому

here some facts about last of us 2 you need to know ukposts.info/have/v-deo/p3Kok4ufqHun1mg.html

@user-np4ll6qj3v 5 місяців тому

I'm sorry I might sound dumb here, but why did the zombie that gave it to her infected and like I'm pretty sure we saw it sitting their like sleeping infected so it was just growing more and more and why did her friend get infected as well? Wouldn't she be the same as ellie in this case?

@MrHocotateFreight Рік тому

You know I just wondered this: do zombies pass the mirror test like animals? If not, I'd imagine hanging mirror with voice recordings over pitfall Traps could attract large groups to their own doom

@lordzoltan8903 Рік тому

Considering they can't see I'd imagine not

@mrmachineguy6972 5 місяців тому

they can see, runners, shamblers and stalkers can@@lordzoltan8903

@Flowreya 3 роки тому

Title: Ellie is NOT immune! *proceeds to explain why and how she is, indeed, immune* Ok

@Gravedigger432 3 роки тому

No she isn't immune she is infected. It just doesn't affect her the same. Its like catch COVID but not exhibiting symptoms.

@Flowreya 3 роки тому

Dillon Wigmore she is infected with a different strain making her immune to the deadly strain

@AnUnfortunatePotato 3 роки тому

She’s technically not immune, just well defended against it. Think of it like a shield, and the version she has just accidentally gave that shield spikes. It just makes her more defended against the other fungi.

@gamedevprod6276 3 роки тому

Dillon Wigmore talking bout covid and TLOU, check this out ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hZt5jmOWcK50pXU.html

@mcblizard5783 3 роки тому

Then explain the zombie that bit her how could it carry both when the other one that she "supposedly" has stop other fungi from infecting

@briannadiaz9305 2 роки тому

I would never expect her to be magically immune haha. This sounds like a good theory. The big question is… would the doctors REALLY have needed to kill her in order to find out this information.

@SGz_Eliminated 2 роки тому

No, with the proper equipment they could have figured out it was a different strain of the fungus, I just don't think they'd thought of the possibility. They had resolved themselves to thinking if they can get at the Fungus in her brain then they can create a 'vaccine' from it. Which wasn't wrong either since infecting others with the same Fungus would have infact made them immune to the zombie variant.

@yeemawheaver1387 2 роки тому

This is why im not mad that Joel killed that doctor

@samanthagerbrandt7543 Рік тому

@@SGz_Eliminated okay, but in a post apocalyptic world 20-30 years later, would they even have the equipment to do that?

@ianluk6385 Рік тому

@@samanthagerbrandt7543 I don't think the technology to do so is that advanced. It's just analyzing some samples. They could probably take some blood samples and it would be valid, and they clearly have the ability to analyze blood samples.

@BarioIDL Рік тому

no one in their right mind would kill the only possibility of a cure after a day of meeting them. the doctor is an idiot

@Yaziiir Рік тому

GODDAMN! After watching the series finale... bravo! you were spot on!

@ninoabreu6158 Рік тому

But when he was infected she wasn't alone she was with Riley and they were bite by the same zombie so it's weird they both didn't have the same "immunity"

@simplylemonade9056 Рік тому

yeah maybe in the show, and they explained that in the finale. But in the game they weren’t bitten by the same zombie.

@simplylemonade9056 Рік тому

Also, Ellie shot Riley and then was gonna shoot herself, but she didn’t. So even if Riley was immune she wouldn’t have known.

@jxmz367 Рік тому

@@simplylemonade9056 this actually isn’t true, at the end of the first game Ellie explains how “Riley was the first to turn, and I waited for me but it didn’t happen” so Riley probably turned before Ellie shot her.

@simplylemonade9056 Рік тому

@@jxmz367 you right

@CoconutButt 3 роки тому

Ellie: *is immune* Matt: that ain’t gonna fly

@DarkMoon-hf7rw 3 роки тому

Other people: gets infected and dies a horrific death Ellie: catches a cold Ellie: *Guess I'll die now*

@sixloki1232 3 роки тому

What a anticlimactic way to die

@taawesome2949 3 роки тому

I think you forget the fact that they live in a apocalyptic world where modern medicine is no longer around

@V1CT0R1A_PL4YZ Рік тому

MapPat: okay let’s cut to the chase. Me: okay, this is gonna be normal, right? The intro: SIKE- Me: AAAAAAAAAA MY EYES AND EARS!!!!!

@bellavita4457 Рік тому

i just finished watching last episode of TLOU and well in the end this theory turned out to be true

@cognitiveTrifurcation 3 роки тому

So basically what you're saying is that Ellie is infected with possessive yandere fungus. Sounds about right.

@Lokifemlover 3 роки тому

😂when they give a anime adaptation just so we can meet the fungi

@teo-wz5pu 3 роки тому

...

@equient2025 2 роки тому

“I’ll kill every other fungus that tries to take my Senpai AHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA”

@jacquelinelucia2327 2 роки тому

We need a story on this.

@char4980 Рік тому

bruh

@KAR401 3 роки тому

Ellie took her gummy vitamins so that’s why she’s immune

@DoubleBoost23 3 роки тому

Rat King: _I'm the strongest Cordyceps creation._ Ellie, having eaten several dozen Vitamin Gummies: *A r e y o u s u r e a b o u t t h a t ?*

@yamidom9134 3 роки тому

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Blumkerzoink 3 роки тому

Wait am i mega immune because i took 3 when I’m supposed to only take two

@abandoned2596 3 роки тому

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@dayzofblue8794 3 роки тому

As she should. The Karen's are thrivin

@kaydenduarte934 Рік тому

I wonder if the fungus evolved to leave Ellie feeling fine only for the cordyceps to use her as a host. Making her feel normal, however the fungus would still lurking to figure out a way to mass infect the remaining population since humans had been seen being able to fight back by creating strong communities like WLF and others shown in the game. One way to infect another majority of humanity is for the fungus to lay low and find its way somehow into a fake "immunity" that would end up infecting all that would take it. This might mean that Joel's decision to kill the doctors and stop the procedure from happening might've saved all of the remaining humans. Which would be brilliant since Ellie resented Joel for the fact that it could've "saved everyone". But Joel's loving nature built from the first game is what ended up saving the remaining lives from taking this "cure".

@mrmachineguy6972 5 місяців тому

fungus isnt that intelligent

@basantadarios6899 5 місяців тому

fungus isnt that intelligent and it is already quite successful, sooner or later it could swarm/sneak in the outposts if it had this type of intelligence. If a species is already the most succesfull be it from any kingdom, it doesn't try to fully erradicate the other species because it doesnt care/think about it. Species that try to completely erradicate other groups have higher consciousness aka humans. The cordyceps just goes by primal instinct; procreate/infect, and eat.

@knightmare32 Рік тому

If you watch this video after watching the series you can find the creators adding cyclosporine hints in the series,also explains why she couldn’t save the deaf kid in the series after he was infected

@abrahamlincoln8748 3 роки тому

The more salient title is: She’s immune, but not for the reason you think.

@TheArsenalMan125 3 роки тому

so why didnt abbie get infected after she bit her?

@MrJcdelete18 3 роки тому

TheArsenalMan125 Because Ellie has no traces of the “bad” infection within her

@lowbird7947 3 роки тому

@@MrJcdelete18 Early in the first game a soldier scans her with the infection detector thingie

@MrJcdelete18 3 роки тому

LowBird It was only positive because it was reading the “good” infection within her and without the “bad” kind, Abby wasn’t infected

@BatFan_Attic 3 роки тому

Shes a carrier. Of a strain.

@grillledpickle5329 3 роки тому

Ellie: *breathes in spores* Matt: “Well yes but actually no”

@jadeamelia22 3 роки тому

seriously though

@LineOfThy Рік тому

what is your point?

@user-xi8hw5xh9d 11 місяців тому

Then why didn’t Riley become immune? They were bitten by the same zombie

@victoriavvc Рік тому

This is actually a great theory and I think you're right about the devs knowing what they're doing here

@xv_nitro_6878 3 роки тому

Ellie gets bitten. Ellie: but I'm the main character Zombie: understandable have a great day

@LiamFordCr395ash 3 роки тому

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@epicsomethin1635 3 роки тому

Niice

@mrtuffguy2769 3 роки тому

😆😆

@davidnjihia6781 3 роки тому

Very nice

@lesuperbooper4622 3 роки тому

Plot armour says no to your bite.

@InfinitySquared1 3 роки тому

Title: Ellie isn't immune Theory: Ellie is immune but not for the reason you think Yeah that makes more sense

@aurin_komak 3 роки тому

Gotta have the clickbaits, baby!

@breakinggreens 3 роки тому

It's immune in the same way that a bullet proof vest makes you immune to bullets. It's not Ellie being immune, just being unable to get infected to begin with.

@kaimonarch2321 3 роки тому

Chris Ray bad analogy bulletproof vests aren’t bulletproof, but bullet resistant

@duddude321 3 роки тому

Ellie isn't immune, she's protected.

@InfinitySquared1 3 роки тому

@@duddude321 Yes, but the protection is inside of her and can't be removed so that's a distinction without a difference. She's not immune in the was a person normally becomes immune to a disease, but she is, seemingly permanently, immune to its effects.

@trashvan 11 місяців тому

would make sense except for the fact she got bit by the same runner riley got bit by, but riley turned. Also that ellie got bit again.... and the chances of both runners containing the same strain is low.

@charles2893 Рік тому

But what i don’t understand is why the zombie who bit ellie would transmit a different kind of cordyceps

@bigali2783 3 роки тому

So, she’s not immune. But she is immune.

@fenndog89 3 роки тому

She’s not immune. Her fungus mutated. They mention it at the end of the first game

@sahandghorbani7351 3 роки тому

what he is saying is that her immunity is not because of something that her body naturally does or produces (her white blood cells are in fact lower than normal). so its more like she has got the antidote to the fungus rather than being immune.

@fenndog89 3 роки тому

@@sahandghorbani7351 right and Im saying this isn't some groundbreaking revelation. They never said her body was immune to the fungus. Her strain mutated and she is basically a non-symptomatic carrier. I think the confusion comes from the people in the game throwing around "she's immune" to describe her condition but honestly how else do you describe it without going into detail.

@pineapplesplash9166 3 роки тому

Basically yeah. But the writers could make the story go either way. She could become a new form of infection.

@baileebee3708 3 роки тому

@@fenndog89 at the end of the first game Marlene literally says “the growth has somehow mutated, it’s why she’s immune”........she’s definitely immune.

@oliviertremblay8546 3 роки тому

Who would realize the real reason Ellie is immune (or how to be immune): A group of licensed scientists and doctors working for years or A group of theoretician boya

@zarki-games 3 роки тому

The scientists in the 1st game literally said she was immune because of a mutation in the fungus. Go to ukposts.info/have/v-deo/kJ-WjoCDf6STr58.html and look at 1:24:15, it's the scene in the last of us where Marlene tells Joel that Ellie has to die. She literally says that the fungus inside her has somehow mutated. The doctors knew exactly what they were doing, Matpat just reworded what the game said and acted like the game never said it.

@kbrennan3836 3 роки тому

@@zarki-games The scientists are constantly contradicting themselves, though. Jerry tells Marlene that Ellie's fungus has mutated and the only way to get it is brain surgery. But, in that same game, his own recording reveals that he has no idea how her immunity works but that he already has a sample of the fungus in her body, which he grew from her cerebrospinal fluid. Either the scientists didn't know what they were doing or Naughty Dog didn't.

@coolrobinxx22r88 3 роки тому

@zarki-games 3 роки тому

@@kbrennan3836 Maybe that recording was made prior to when they figured it out. Maybe they couldn't cultivate that sample. Maybe that sample couldn't infect people. I know that there are a lot of maybes but a lot of them are explanations that at least make some sense. Worst case scenario is that Naughty Dog, a game developer, didn't fully understand the science. Which isn't too hard to imagine.

@sharilshahed6106 3 роки тому

Doubt real life scientists can bother with one of the many zombie game that combines real life and fictional science. But if we're talking in-universe, lets do the math. Obviously the experts (before things collapsed) were busy trying to figure it out and thus most were infected before learning what it is. The other few were either lucky, missed some close calls or were second rate. Then the number dwindles given the post apocalypse nature of this world, to the days of TLOU 1. Even then the remaining few, doubt the majority are with the Firefly to be aware, or even Firefly is aware of other doctors that can tackle this problem. Thus leaving us with the accounts of the only people that we see, and even they are sometimes contradicting.

@C0PPERVR Місяць тому

Tess: “That still doesn’t stop you from being torn apart.”

@yohlosqualo6489 Рік тому

but Ellie was bitten by a zombie infected with the right mushroom, her friend in fact transformed

@LineOfThy Рік тому

She could have gotten it beforehand

@yohlosqualo6489 Рік тому

@@LineOfThy true....... i think is just a theory, there is nothing confirmed

@Wraith8082 3 роки тому

This was basically confirmed near the conclusion of the first game, as Marlene tells Joel that the cordyceps in Ellie’s brain have “somehow mutated and is why she’s immune”

@therealmalik1119 3 роки тому

And he made that one sentence a 16 minute video.

@emperorthylord 3 роки тому

@@therealmalik1119 This video is pretty stupid but we like it because of how excited he sounds

@gustavomendoza5751 3 роки тому

Lol so can this help the coronavirus 🤔 lmfao

@marcellebestbrathwaite8588 3 роки тому

@@emperorthylord never in my life have i agree or disagree with a person on the internet you my friend have unlocked that achievement

@BL3H- 3 роки тому

@@emperorthylord never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with.

@watsyurdeal 3 роки тому

All I'm hearing is Abby's dad was wrong and Joel was right. GG

@iluvfour 3 роки тому

honestly.

@ornitorrincoc1borgue767 3 роки тому

That's kinda sad then, because... [Spoilers]. Everyone, even Joel or the doctors, died in vain. They were not even right about the cure in the first game, that means Abby killed Joel in vain such as he killed her father and the fireflies...

@twigs3410 3 роки тому

i mean it’s better to try than nothing. nothing in the world can be done without trying and attempt

@comradekenobi8146 3 роки тому

WELL... Maybe they needed to collect a significant sample of the cordyceps from her in order to synthesize that specific vaccine?

@jrkularatne2900 3 роки тому

Joel was always right and he did the right thing

@hyperdawn2524 Рік тому

Matt:”she’s not immune it’s just the cordycepts” Me:“So she’s immune”

@Airin_azz27 2 місяці тому

When Matt said Ellie was infected by a different strain of fungi, he was literally describing most vaccines known. Vaccines are usually made with different strains of the same virus or bacteria, so in Ellis case she may had contact with the different strain of Cordyceps and developed immunity to all types of it.