i wish we would do this stuff in kyokushin.

@@mnlbt me too, my master doesn't wants to include head striking and other stuff that aren't present in Kyokushin

@@user-ry1qn3wq1m update: i switched to kudo after training kyokushin my whole youth it gives me everything i need and: headstrikes, grappling, takedowns and its budo

@@mnlbt that's great, sadly there's no Kudo dojo's on my country lol

@@user-ry1qn3wq1m yeah its a pretty small sport.. where you from?

Agreed. In isshinryu karate back in the 1990's and early 2000s we worked on submissions just as much as we did striking. When we sparred in my old sensei's dojo, if it went to the ground, he let it go for several minutes to see what would happen. I eventually got so good at beating the other brown and black belts that he started handicapping me by giving my opponents weapons and I had to fight with no weapon vs them with an escrima stick or okinawan bo, and I was expected to disarm the other brown and black belt students. Real street defense requires you learn to full contact "as close to no rules as possible" sparring.

Yes, we also can do bunkai on there

This is how isshinryu and gojuryu used to train and spar every day. Sadly, most dojos no longer train and fight like this. I trained 5 days per week under a 4th degree black belt 3 hours per day. He was an 8 years veteran on the marine corps. Now people don't do real sparring, they do shitty points sparring and they get their ass kicked when they get in a real street self defense situation. In isshinryu dojos in the late 1990 and early 2000s era, we used to full contact spar and fight on the ground too, and I was one of the best at it.

I fully agree with you! If you're into Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend watching Karatemo's videos too! www.youtube.com/@karatemo

This type of sparring is classic in all karate derived from Naha-te.

This isn't evolution.....it's old school karate

This is Okinawa Karate

Bu TianHao that's because many people in UKposts comment section never even fought. In fact these two will murder those keyboard warriors.

They just watch MMA Fights but never in full contact or even street fight.

I'm looking for a karate discipline to practice, after 10 years of judo. I think I found it!

Looks way better than all the dancing and hopping in garbage WKF videos.

It is karate though!

@@thetoughguy7 I agree. As soon as I see the two karatekas start that ridiculous bouncing I'm out.

Y dime . Has peleado contra luchadores de judo o jiujitsu? Mamejan tecnicas similares a estos o mejores que el jiujitsu? Goju ryu puede ganarle a un rival de jiujitsu y judo?

I think so too! If you're interested in Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend Karatemo's videos: www.youtube.com/@karatemo

I practice Goju Ryu here in Brisbane and we do kumite with pads almost weekly.. light contact with control focusing on all the techniques we've been learning. Sometimes we go a little harder but that always comes down to you and your partner, if it's mutual, you go as hard as you like, it's good fun 😄 It's fundamental to really developing your skills. For the younger kids it's not needed as much but good to get them having a go and understanding what it's like to use what you've learned in a real setting. Great that your boy is into it, hope he really enjoys the Karate journey 🙏🏻

If you're thinking of most Goju-ryu, coming from mainland Japan and being more sport-oriented, then you're right to find this style of sparring unusual. The Okinawans did more of this type of continuous sparring, but what you see here is different, as it incorporates modern protective gear, non-Okinawan grappling influence, and the whole judging system. There are lots of ways to spar, and they all have their respective benefits. This is just one particular way of doing it. There's no official Goju kumite. Good luck with your own training!

I've seen Gojuryu schools that sparred full-contact but with Kyokushin-like rules with no head punching...

depends on the dojo i would think my shotokan dojo does touch contact up till 1st kyu then it starts to become brutal

Goju in Okinawa they are flexibel. They can fight full contact and wkf style. They join both tournament.

yong Un Mao you can train karate however you want. It’s not what you train, it’s how you train. These guys have dispensed with the WKF like rule base for karate kumite and adopted a more practical MMA set of rules.

👍👍

Your dojo sounds great.

@@Bloodletter8 thanks i'm going there now

Yep, i think that goju ryu and kudo are very similar in some aspects. Kudo is more sport oriented and borrows some techniques from other martial arts, but the pursue of effectiveness is the same. It depends on how you train it of course. I'm sure there are goju ryu dojos around where they only do kata and never spar, but in this case, it's great.

Kudo is basically Goju-Ryu without the kata anyway

The method is great, they have a ways to go in skill but if the schools adopted this as the default for sparring they’d get very good over the next few years

Thats mma to be honest punches look like boxing added muay thai checks added bjj grappling added ground and pound

Karate was mma bro, use everything you can to win a fight. It was called tode,it originated in okinawa, and every city had its style. Designed to defend yourself unarmed, since the Japanese empire forbade okinawans to carry a sword. Karate never was a unique entity and it was much different from what people see today. Shotokan popularized karate worldwide but that style is only 100 years old and it's not in any shape or form true karate. It took a lot of inspirations from boxing too.

@@kakuto435 oh I’m learning goju Ryu

@@fcbfreviews yeah goju ryu is the best

@@kakuto435 Specially the original Okinawa karate it has punches, kicks, elbows, knees, throws, grappling, and weapons training,

I also think Goju Ryu is effective and beautiful at the same time. I suggest watching Karatemo's videos too. He practices Goju Ryu: www.youtube.com/@karatemo

I like your karate school

IOGKF

@@SenseiEli Thank you.

Yeah is IOGKF, the best goju ryu organization

Come on. No techniqe, poor amateur street fight. Who gave them the black belts?

is mma really all that practical tho? pretty sure they dont train to deal with opponents biting or clawing at ur eyes lol

Tell me about it. As someone who's interested in training Goju-Ryu, the slap fighting doesn't make it look good.

If you're into Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend watching Karatemo's videos too! www.youtube.com/@karatemo

Não, não é verdade. Essas técnicas já existiam no karate original. Não é jiujitsu e judo

@@viktor7208 o kung fu e o karate originais já tinham armlock e outras técnicas bem antes mas a sportização da arte marcial acabou com a luta.

This may be called Goju-ryu..but they are definitely fighting under Kudo ruleset. I love it though! - Kyokushin and Daidojuku blackbelt here. OSU!

Whats Syoei Juku Karate? Never heard off?

Thanks Eli! Check out the most recent fight we posted with my son. It's better than this one. :)

You're used to watch sports karate.

Out of curiosity, why if one is still on ones feet and one's opponent is on the ground would one go for a mount rather than circling around and going for either kicks or stamps to the grounded opponents head or ribs?

Thank you Ahmad! A salaam alaikum.

They were permitted; just didn't happen. :)

It was 2015. The guy starting with his back to the camera is me, and the other is a guy named Jeremy from CT. Not big shots in the IOGKF - just a couple of guys who like karate.

JKMannsr 😎 thank you for the post and reply. I was just wondering. I am with Sensei Higaonna and Sensei Rodney Hu Sr

It's mostly tegumi and some judo

Fair enough! But both of us have beautiful faces and smiles we want to keep looking good for many years to come. :)

I agree. If you aint making money no reason to bust up the face. Its just a hobby

As a matter of fact, there is not true martial arts of any type in any tournament... Even boxing, get rid of the gloves and it becomes a totally different animal... As soon as it is a "tournament", then it becomes a sport.

They think MMA is real, Silat in its old forms are the arts of kill. Some Silat Style dont have hand to hand combat, they rely everything with weapon only. They only need one slice and the fight is over.

Yes. In Goju ryu it's called Iri Kumi :)

Thanks. I just posted a new video yesterday of my son fighting this past weekend. Same rules. Check it out.

i get what your saying but lets face it most people do martial arts because they enjoy it the moment they start getting smacked in the face and risk getting a broken nose or something there going to leave i think the face plates are a nice compromise as you can take a body punch without risking disfigurement ive seen clubs that wear foot, shin, groin and helmet protection along with huge boxing gloves you feel like the michelin man and you learn nothing but this i actualy like personaly

@@kevlarchicken i mean there's a balance between realism and safety always, but there is no, or at least shouldn't be a risk of disfigurement from a face punch in sparring. either practice in the dojo, or competition. the face protectors create a false sense of security about taking a face punch (if anyone actually bothers to throw them) and it shifts the 'meta' of the fight so to speak away from face punches since they won't cause pain they provide no deterrence, and very little advantage of any sort. why punch the face when you can hit them in the solar plexus and knock the wind out of them for example?

@@johnpjones1775 again i agree they do create a false sense of security if i were to introduce them it would probably only be for the lower grades were you dont have nearly as much control as a dan grade should

Yes, submissions were permitted. (Chokes are hard to get, though, with the helmets.)

What association were you with? Bogu kumite or irikumi go kumite as a rule set was created in 1927 by The Karate Study Group of Tokyo Imperial University, which devised its own armoured karate system and began to practice sport Karate. Then was brought to Okinawa's school system by Kentsū Yabu who adopted armour in Karate while teaching it at Okinawa Prefectural Normal School. Also in Okinawa, for a while, sparring while wearing armor was also used in Shigeru Nakamura's "Okinawan Kenpo". Remember the Pinan kata were developed for the Okinawan school system by Anko Itosu between 1905 & 1907. Before the development of Pinan the Naihanchi were taught. Then in 1940 Gekisai Dai Ichi by Shōshin Nagamine and Gekisai Dai Ni by Chōjun Miyagi in 1940. The semi-contact form of karate was developed as a kyōgi during the USA miliatary occupation, so that Karate could become a legal sporting game post 1950 when Kendo became legal.

@@kevionrogers2605 it was simply called Canada Goju Ryu, based in Toronto. Light contact point sparring was the method

Why not? Karate should be flexible and evolve. Karate always including throws and grappling, it just got lost in the McDojofication in the US. These guys are taking karate back to its roots

My question? Is it happening today and common. Or is this just a local event

@@richx5064 Depends on school and its leaders. I believe it does and should become more common.

This form is more like the original karate form, karate has always been a complete art, what we see in the WKF is not 10% of what is taught.

Basically: Full contact striking, with elbows, knees, headbutts. Throws and up to 30 seconds grappling before being stood up again.

These helmets are the Daido Juku ones. I used Shorinji Kempo helmets once in Japan; those were different. Either way, lots of fun. :)

​@@JKMannsr consulta master. Karate goju ryu puede ganarle o tambien darle pelea a un luchador de judo y/o jiujitsu?

These are Goju-ryu practitioners doing a type of sparring quite similar to Daido Juku rules.

Its "you".

It's an official event of the IOGKF-USA, so it's really Goju in that respect. If this looks different than what you're used to, see the reply below to Draconic Ryuken. :)

No is not

Grappling was always part of karate.

@Aumima Mimadino E aiiii, siiim meu sonho treinar... acho lindo demais e muito mais foda

@Aumima Mimadino muito booom, devia voltar a treinar.. aproveita que você tem e eu não, ai fico so na vontade 😓😓😓😓

Consulta goju ryu tiene tecnicas de luxaciones agarres y derribos. Puede ganarle a luchadores de jiujitsu o judo?