GoPro Hero 10 Overheating: 40 Tests Later

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In this case, after nearly a month of testing the GoPro Hero 10 Black in daily use (actually, two cameras), I posted my full in-depth review. In any event, after launch, I had seen some reports of overheating on the Hero 10. Of course, overheating of cameras and action cameras is nothing new. Be it past GoPro’s, or even my phone - in the right hot conditions a camera will overheat. Generally speaking, such overheating usually comes from lack of airflow over a device - something that didn’t really impact my previous GoPro Hero 10 testing.
What I thought would be a simple video ended up turning into a rabbit hole of astronomical proportions. Some 40 tests in all, including dive cases to the bottom of the lake, superheating my bathroom to 104*F, and a never-ending bout of cycling in circles to try and figure out when and where it’ll overheat. There’s some pretty interesting surprises in there too!
0:00 Overview of methods/testing
2:06 1080p/2.7K Resolutions
3:27 Timelapse & Timewarp
4:21 4K Testing
5:30 5K Outdoor Testing
7:58 5K Indoor Testing
9:30 5K Hot Weather Testing
11:24 GoPro's Response
13:59 Wrap-Up Recommendations
Here's the PDF from the video, that consolidates all of my test data: www.dcrainmaker.com/images/20... - Note this is as of October 1st, 2021 with the latest production firmware from Hero 10 launch day till Oct 1st, 2021. This does not account for any changes made in GoPro's planned November 2021 Hero 10 Black firmware update (be it good or bad).
Settings for all tests were: GPS on, Bluetooth On (WiFi on standby, but not on - WiFi on a Hero 10 is only leveraged when fully streaming to phone app, or uploading to GoPro cloud), normal bitrate unless stated otherwise (some tests were high, didn't matter), Image Stabilization to Boost on all tests, picture file at Natural. All other ProTune settings reset to defaults. Voice control off (as I didn't want tests accidentally turning off due to random talking).
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@GoPro
@GoPro 2 роки тому
Hey Ray - we have an update for you! Thanks to customer feedback, we’ve learned many HERO10 users want the ability to record longer video clips in static situations without motion or airflow to cool the camera. Many have also had questions about how to get the longest possible recording times while maximizing battery life. We’re excited to share that we’re releasing a HER010 firmware update to deliver on these requests by end of October. This update will introduce three new “Video Performance Modes” to help maximize HERO10’s performance depending on your use case: 1. Maximum Video Performance - Maximum video resolution and frame rates for the very best image quality and ultra slow motion. 2. Extended Battery - Optimal video resolutions and frame rates for maximizing recording times and extending battery life. 3. Tripod / Stationary Video - Optimized for recording long video clips at the highest resolutions and frame rates when the camera is stationary without motion or airflow to cool the camera. GPS and HyperSmooth video stabilization are turned OFF in this mode. The following is what users can expect to achieve, on average, in Tripod / Stationary Video mode recording a single continuous clip at a temperature of 77F / 25C in static situations without movement or airflow to cool the camera: 5.3K60 - 47% more runtime than previous for an average of 29 minute-long clips 5.3K30 - 11% more runtime than previous for an average of 44 minute-long clips 4K120 - 52% more runtime than previous for an average of 26 minute-long clips 4K60 - 154% more runtime than previous for an average of 63 minute-long clips 4K30 - 35% more runtime than previous for an average of 50 minute-long clips A future firmware update will enable even longer clip lengths in 5.3K30 and 4K30. And if important for your use case, 2.7K and 1080p will enable significantly longer single clip recording times in either Extended Battery or Maximum Video Performance modes. We’re also excited to share that in late November we’re releasing a new battery, named Enduro, for HERO10 and HERO9 cameras. Enduro will be available as a $24.99 spare battery upgrade and features revolutionary technology that dramatically improves your GoPro’s performance in cold temperatures (snow sports, for example) while also significantly extending recording times in moderate temperatures. At a battery temperature of 14F / -10C (note: this is the battery’s temperature, it can be even colder outside), with HERO10 Black the Enduro battery enables, on average, 56 minutes of 5.3K60 video, 50 minutes of 4K120 video, 76 minutes of 4K60 video and 115 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Enduro also significantly increases video recording time in moderate temperatures. For example, with HERO10 Black during typical outdoor activities at a temperature of 77F / 25C, the Enduro battery enables, on average, 60 minutes of 5.3K60 video (a 28% improvement over the standard battery), 51 minutes of 4K120 video (a 40% improvement over the standard battery), 71 minutes of 4K60 video (a 13% improvement over the standard battery) and 120 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Stay tuned for more information on the November launch of the new Enduro battery and end of October release of the updated HERO10 firmware featuring the new Performance Video Modes. And please keep your feedback and requests coming - as you can see, we’re excited to develop additional HERO10 performance enhancements based on your input!
@ProtoMarcus
@ProtoMarcus 2 роки тому
Wow, thank you for this detailed comment! Easy to understand yet offers adequate technical details!
@benwhittle7204
@benwhittle7204 2 роки тому
Wow, that’s one hell of a response and how it should be done rather than just staying silent and ignoring the problem! Good job! Now release a stripped down “naked” version for FPV and dash cam users with appropriate firmware suitable for those situations, for about $300. No front display, no rear display, no battery.
@doctormthebikingexperience1558
@doctormthebikingexperience1558 2 роки тому
Thank you gopro.you are truly a peoples company.you listen to us via influencers like DC rainmaker and keep bettering your product. I just bought my hero 10 after (still owning the 3/7/8). All of them are perfect in their own way with imperfections. But that’s how even a human or a machine has evolved. The hero 10 is not available in India yet. Got mine flown in from Usa.I’m doing my unboxing video this week and will make a small snippet on this issue you have addressed. It will be in my native language tamizhl with English subs. Hope my country men be benefitted when you guys launch it during our Festival of Lights Deepavali. Stay blessed DC /Go pro team . Vanakam 🙏🏽
@paceline
@paceline 2 роки тому
GoPro is realizing that it's cheaper for them to follow your channel than to hire an extra person in Quality Assurance. Please make a video to apply pressure on Garmin next!
@doctormthebikingexperience1558
@doctormthebikingexperience1558 2 роки тому
@@paceline haha ...we the people😎
@GoPro
@GoPro 2 роки тому
To say you put the HERO10 Black through its paces, is an understatement. Thank you for doing so and keep the tests and comments coming. We read every comment and are taking in the feedback to learn what matters most to all of you. We are working on further firmware improvements for HERO10 based on your feedback. And by the way - we love the beer selection in the fridge. Cheers!
@CrazyAboutFlyFishing
@CrazyAboutFlyFishing 2 роки тому
I had real trouble with my Hero 9 overheating last summer trying to shoot at 4k while fishing. I have to run my gopro continuously for up to 5 to 8 hours a day filming on and off while I fish to try and capture the hookups. I either cycle 3 batteries or run it off a battery bank all day. In the peak of summer it was woefully unreliable and I lost a ton of footage from overheating and sd card errors during fishing. As soon as the temperatures dropped during winter the problems went away and I have not had any issues since. It will be interesting to see what summer in NZ brings this year. With these results the hero 10 is off the cards as the high frame rates and resolutions that matter to me would be unusable over summer for how I intend to use it. It's a shame as I was real keen on the upgrade.
@QuenazEller
@QuenazEller 2 роки тому
I have the same trouble with my GoPro Hero 9. It's frustrating.
@dronesafe
@dronesafe 2 роки тому
Thank you for doing so? That sounds like GoPro hasn't done such tests! Seems crazy that a consumer has to do these tests and it's not part of the GoPro development cycle. Amazing, and not in a good way!!
@cooleye9745
@cooleye9745 2 роки тому
Защо продавате бракувани камери???? Аз имам второ GoPro -9 след подмяна -Е и второто е брак, както и първото!!! 1 година не можете да оправите GoPro -9 Това е пълен ПОЗОР за вас!!! GoPro-10 отново ПОЗОР И СРАМ!!!! GoPro11-12-13...ВСИЧКО ще ви е брак- само глупак може да си купи вече камера от вас!!! Жалко и горко на тези който не са си нучили УРОКА!! LANGUAGE - BG -BULGARIAN
@BensMiniToons
@BensMiniToons 2 роки тому
Million dollar Idea. The heatsink case with fins for passive cooling. Indoors aswell high temps outdoors. For GoPros in extreme conditions.
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 2 роки тому
Hats off to the time investment on this one 👏
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks Ben - appreciate it!
@lauismutube
@lauismutube 2 роки тому
Wow, the “fake” honest reviewer here praising DC Rainmaker. The gall
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 2 роки тому
@@Dcrainmaker You made us Finnish butchers happy. -18c is pretty basic here in winter, but glad to see it lasted that long in that temp. Hero 8 dies in 15min in -5c. Last year we had mostly -23c and record of -35c.
@AlexCrews
@AlexCrews 2 роки тому
Your video so awesome
@erwinb9035
@erwinb9035 2 роки тому
You are a true Data Analyst, props!
@ChaseTheSummit
@ChaseTheSummit 2 роки тому
I love how deep you dived on this. Excel spreadsheet and all! Nice work Ray!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Spreadsheets to the rescue!
@stanleysim2480
@stanleysim2480 2 роки тому
The most detail and comprehensive test regarding the overheating issue, great work there Ray.
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 2 роки тому
These tests are so comprehensive, it's mind boggling. Thank you so much for doing this 🙏
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 2 роки тому
Thank you for your research. I had roughly the same times with 5.3k 60fps in indoor environments. Head mounted in the cat. Cut out in around 14-18 mins on high bitrate
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Appreciate it!
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 2 роки тому
*in the car
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Shame, head mounted in the cat was a much funnier image. 🐱 🤣
@charlieg4113
@charlieg4113 2 роки тому
Oh man I was about to ask if the cat was alright 😂
@becksvideoproductions
@becksvideoproductions 2 роки тому
I wish it was a cat and you could share the video...
@voluntarypropaganda
@voluntarypropaganda 2 роки тому
This is such top tier content its crazy! Rays dedication is beyond what we deserve, this channel is the A1 of camera tech channels. Unrivaled and unmatched
@Dale_Philip
@Dale_Philip 2 роки тому
Whenever my GoPro overheats I just switch the battery and continue recording right away without a problem. The battery is always blisteringly hot when pulled out, so replacing it with a cold one is enough to get the camera back up and running. I've started to get in the habit of just switching the battery after around 30 minutes of continuous recording, before it overheats, so at least I'm the one that's in control of when each video clip is stopped. If you do another one of these videos in the future can you test it with and without a foam windslayer on the GoPro? Many people who want to capture audio from the internal mics use these when filming outdoors to prevent wind noise. It does insulate the camera a bit, making the airflow less effective at cooling it down. Keep up the great work. This video surely took an enormous amount of effort and is much appreciated. 👍🏻👍🏻
@TheRoamingHazard
@TheRoamingHazard 2 роки тому
Good tip switching the battery. Also him running straight off USB with the battery removed. I've had bad overheat problems with my 9 when outside in extreme temps (maybe as much as 110F) and I found myself pouring ice water on the camera to keep it running. Next time I think I'll just dunk it every so often between action. I've also found myself removing the windslayers on occasion.
@Miguel-ve1lh
@Miguel-ve1lh 2 роки тому
Awesome thanks
@TlhOnYT
@TlhOnYT 2 роки тому
DALE! Nice to see you here buddy hahaha
@andrewlovegrove6442
@andrewlovegrove6442 2 роки тому
Excellent analysis and report, thank you! You have allayed my concerns and I now know what to manage in my use cases…priceless! 🙏🏻
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@mikevanhoozer
@mikevanhoozer 2 роки тому
Ray, Great job as always! Thanks for investing the time to do these tests!
@Daksap
@Daksap 2 роки тому
Ray, the quality of your work is outstanding. You really deserve a lot more recognition.
@davidness9508
@davidness9508 2 роки тому
I must admit that I was having second thoughts about adding the GoPro 10 to my collection because of the overheating issue…. But did it anyway. but thanks to your detailed analysis I’m glad I’ve done it
@Tora8688
@Tora8688 2 роки тому
There is another issue, the APP can't review while recording. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iaCqmKFooombmZc.html Happened on GoPro9, and 10 carries same problem. It is a good action camera.
@MattClarry
@MattClarry 2 роки тому
This video is both interesting and incredibly helpful, exactly what I was looking for! Cheers for the hard work !
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
@llama307
@llama307 2 роки тому
That is why I love this channel! Effort is insane!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!!!
@MrZajfu
@MrZajfu 2 роки тому
Finally legit test. Not like one of the table top tests. Great job !
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
Given it is an ACTION camera, the only legitimate tests are using it when in action scenarios.
@onlymyopiniontech
@onlymyopiniontech 2 роки тому
When I use mine as a dashcam I direct the defroster vent to blow on the camera and it helps cool the camera since it’s in direct sunlight.
@mtb_alan
@mtb_alan 2 роки тому
Ray. You are a national treasure. 🙏🏾
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Haha - thanks Alan, appreciate it!
@anhonestreviewer7015
@anhonestreviewer7015 2 роки тому
Ray's dedication is unmatched. Thank you for all your efforts 👍🏻
@paulbornhutter9459
@paulbornhutter9459 2 роки тому
Thank you for putting the time in! Really appreciate the data and will run my own 'settings' tests when I finally get my 10 to see if changing settings does/will make any difference.
@JonRuns
@JonRuns 2 роки тому
I love that you did this! These are the kind of nerdy ideas that I have, but never execute on. You're the hardest working sports tech UKpostsr!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!!!
@nomad0714
@nomad0714 2 роки тому
Hi DC Rainmaker. Bravo! Finally someone who understands thermal physics. And this applies to all cameras (or laptops) that runs at high frames rates and resolution. I would like to add that Gopro for over a decade calls their product “action camera” and not “studio camera” so by that alone means it will be rugged, outdoor, and waterproof. Heat has to dissipate somewhere so other camera manufacturer’s use different aluminum alloy bodies, add passive copper heat sinks or active cooling to get longer run time. I’m with you @8:55, I use Ulanzi’s BG3/4 battery grips + turn off the front LCD and sometimes back and use the remote, iphone, or MyK for live view and controls to ensure battery and LCD are not generating too much heat to overheat. Most components these days are industrial grade which is -40degC to +85degC so I am sure Gopro engineers are playing it safe to keep the longevity of their products and not run it excessively at high temperature. Think about our cars, it can drive at 160-200mph (~260-320kmph) but speed limits are 65-75mph (~104-120kmph, depending on States) as there are safety considerations. Hopefully in a firmware update, Gopro will allow for “high temp” option like Sony cameras has and now Canon R3 has as well. But again, what that does to reliability down the road, we don’t have enough empirical data. If consumers want long form shooting, look elsewhere or realize who shoots high frame rates and resolution as it is a memory hog and processing it will be taxing. It seems other YT’ers are just producing click bates and/or getting paid by Gopro competitors to just sabotage and poke holes instead of doing real world test that you’ve done in this video. Gopro should have you as a brand ambassador and/or pay you for doing this! I’m not loyal to them or anyone, just calling bs for those who purposely try to trash a product, brand, or company when clearly it’s user error and not knowing what is was designed for. Those who compare smartphones to this, I’ll say good luck taking your expensive phones underwater and/or rugged outdoors and see how the stabilization will hold up. But then again, smartphones are not built for extreme action sports so doing so only means doing those tests would also be poking holes.
@nomad0714
@nomad0714 2 роки тому
@DC Rainmaker, forgot to mention most important thing, appreciate time and effort you took to make this video and others for us/me and for free!
@bikingchupei2447
@bikingchupei2447 2 роки тому
it's funny seeing smartphone vs gopro comparison videos mostly just them walking or running for 10 seconds and almost passing out, if you really want to say iphone stabilization is on par with gopro, try mounting it on a bicycle handlebar and take it for a ride.
@bthomas493
@bthomas493 2 роки тому
Super impressed at all the time and effort you put into this. Great video!
@athirath
@athirath 2 роки тому
This is phenomenal work Ray....thanks a lot for investing so much time and giving us the logical comparisons in different scenarios. Keep up the Great job !!
@thomasseagrave
@thomasseagrave 2 роки тому
Really appreciate the obsession to the tests in this video. Great entertainment as always.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Haha...indeed, things might have gotten out of control on this one!
@TwoWheelCruise
@TwoWheelCruise 2 роки тому
Exactly the test we needed! Thanks Ray!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
You bet! Happy to help!
@Freshmanger2009
@Freshmanger2009 2 роки тому
Most elaborate review and testing of the gopro
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!
@Chogogo717
@Chogogo717 2 роки тому
Thanks so much for shooting this. I’ve wanted to upgrade my older Akaso V50 for a while, and it looks like it’s definitely time.
@leonfisher
@leonfisher 2 роки тому
Thanks for this definitive review. I have to disagree with one statement. At 07:10 you say you've wasted lots of time. You did not. ;D (this is by far the best review of this "problem")
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Hahaha...fair point!
@KarlRock
@KarlRock Рік тому
My Hero 10 overheats all summer long in India. It overheats while I vlog outdoors after 3.5 minutes at 32 degrees (with humidity it feels around 40). I film at 4K 50fps. Half my batteries have expanded in size too. So yeah, it’s important to shoot short shots during summer. I’ve used it vlogging outdoors during heat waves at 45 degrees and it dies very quickly. Ps. If vlogging at those temperatures don’t forget to drink oral rehydration salts because it’s easy to dehydrate as a vlogger.
@KarlRock
@KarlRock 7 місяців тому
Watching the video again because I'm filming long tours and my Hero10 is dying at 16 minutes @ 4k 50. I'll try move down to 2.7k.
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 2 роки тому
Epic testing my friend, you went above and beyond in this video. This is the best Hero 10 video ever. Thanks for putting in all the time and hard work on this video.
@eleciastewart
@eleciastewart 2 роки тому
I appreciate you so much!!!! I love to learn. Your tests helped me make my decision as they seem non biased as well as the hard work put into this video.
@CaliforniaTravelVideos
@CaliforniaTravelVideos 2 роки тому
WOW DCR, unbelievably thorough testing - GoPro should make you their Underwriter's Lab and Consumers Reports for their action cameras!!! Kudos for sharing the fruits of your labor😎
@AlexanderSio
@AlexanderSio 2 роки тому
Your dedication and thoroughness deserves a knighthood. Kudos!
@AlexanderSio
@AlexanderSio 2 роки тому
And I ALWAYS hit 'Like' when you dutifully point out that now is the time to do it.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks - much appreciated!!!
@robertfreeland2735
@robertfreeland2735 2 роки тому
This is a phenomenal piece of research! Great job!
@wilbing8465
@wilbing8465 2 роки тому
This video is incredible. Thank you for all your work.
@dronevideographyproduction
@dronevideographyproduction 2 роки тому
I admire your scientific approach and all the effort you put into your testing. Great summary at the end... I hope that Gopro appreciate your dedication. They should sponsor your video. 👏🤓💰
@51Drones
@51Drones 2 роки тому
Wait wait wait. . . let’s go back to that fridge again. . .😳🤤
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
A beer fridge can serve many purposes...
@arnoudmeijering5941
@arnoudmeijering5941 2 роки тому
There was beer in that fridge
@manuinsinger
@manuinsinger 2 роки тому
Brouwerij Het IJ!?!
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
@@Dcrainmaker I have several.
@nu.perspective
@nu.perspective 7 місяців тому
This is, by far, the most comprehensive and in-depth review of GP overheating video to date. I've seen so many UKpostsrs testing/addressing this topic in the wrong way, mostly indoors at a desk with no/minimal airflow, which is not what this camera is designed for. Great work in gathering all the data points and translating them into real-life context!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 7 місяців тому
Thanks! Another packed on coming up in the next couple days on the Hero 12 and Action 4.
@runningwithricky5658
@runningwithricky5658 2 роки тому
Not a waste at all bro. We appreciate you 1000%
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!!!
@timbob.
@timbob. 2 роки тому
Some serious dedication to the investigation! Love the fact you had to film the GoPros with GoPros to see if they would overheat! Outcome is pretty reassuring to me as for my personal use I’m using these to capture me going somewhere.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Haha...indeed! It was the easiest and quickest way to shoot the other ones. Sometimes I used full cameras, but that got messy quick.
@r0bv123
@r0bv123 2 роки тому
This is so awesome, great work Ray! Like yourself, I use these "action" cams in action, ie cycling, running, etc, so I wouldn't see overheating in normal conditions due to airflow and outdoors.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!!!
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
It's like covid-19 then, just stay outdoors to be safe.
@guymanchester4874
@guymanchester4874 2 роки тому
Perfect for new user with the exact question regarding heat with a Protector Case. Great video with lots of useful information.
@bpundit
@bpundit 2 роки тому
Great video! Thanks for doing all of those research. Another thing I found that's helpful when shooting indoors is to turn off the Hypersmooth. For most people when shooting indoors, you don't need Hypersmooth since you would mount the GoPro on a tripod and set it up at one location. This usually extends the battery and the time for overheat.
@C5drummer
@C5drummer 2 роки тому
Totally "heroic" in your efforts, Ray! Totally epic! If I could subscribe to your channel more than once, I would!
@paceline
@paceline 2 роки тому
This is amazing. You actually create the content the viewers ask for.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks - I try!
@paceline
@paceline 2 роки тому
@@Dcrainmaker On a side note, thank you for confirming that we can operate a GoPro 10 entirely on USB power.
@simonbance
@simonbance 2 роки тому
Wow, that's a lot of research work. Brilliant, well done, and thanks! Very interesting for me as currently trying to decide between GP10 and waiting for OA2.
@dadlifetravel
@dadlifetravel 2 роки тому
Incredible video thank you for the time you've put in on this
@bikingchupei2447
@bikingchupei2447 2 роки тому
glad to see that what i've always experienced was proven by your test, i could record 3+ hours(battery removed, connected to a power bank) of 4k60 footage when i'm cycling even if it's 34 degrees Celsius(93.2 Fahrenheit) outside because there is constant airflow, but when i have it stationed in the car, even if i blast the AC, it will still overheat.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Yup, makes sense! Though, if you can funnel just a tiny bit of that airflow (maybe even using the window defrost vents?), it'd probably do the trick! The air coming out just has to be less than about 115*F. :)
@bikingchupei2447
@bikingchupei2447 2 роки тому
@@Dcrainmaker interesting, i never mounted it near any vents before.
@lkm5462
@lkm5462 2 роки тому
Always great and more importantly quickly to the point. Your presentation model should be emulated by all.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!!!
@jensbertholhansen3435
@jensbertholhansen3435 2 роки тому
Thank you for the good tests. Also great to see you bring the kids in the cargo compartment.
@Kit2Canada
@Kit2Canada 2 роки тому
Astounding, impressive…words fail me. Superb!
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
@AutoAuctionRebuilds 2 роки тому
I found this video really insightful, and thank you for the effort you put into it. I record outdoors, walking slowly, where it's 95 degrees on the regular with little to no airflow, in approximately 5-8 minute sessions at 4k30. I have learned to turn the camera off while I compose the next scene, which takes me about 3 minutes. The 10 still overheats pretty regularly, and it's extremely frustrating. I had the same issue with the 9. I've considered carrying a cooler with me (with ice) to drop the camera in while I compose my next scene in hopes of not getting my scene cut short by a overheating shutdown. What are your thoughts on this, or other ideas?
@Breaker_o777
@Breaker_o777 2 роки тому
I'm learning quickly that these cameras are better suited for indoor use and are not the amazing outdoor action cameras that @GoPro wishes them to be. The fix would be for everyone of us to stop buying them and after @GoPro's pockets start hurting maybe they'll get serious about designing a more heat tolerant product.
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
For me the problem would be how long the camera is down. What if I shoot several 10 minute segments for an hour at 80 degrees outdoors, swap batteries it is going to die if I then shoot a 30 minute segment and for how long. My S10 will chug along for hours buy apparently not the GoPro 10. It's still unclear if I drop to 4K/60 and am outdoors at 80 if I can get the usual hour before it over heats. How much total time do you get at a similar 4K/30. I too would probably shoot minutes worth as a time but at more like 80. Obviously, I have to stick to my reliable S10 for indoors. Quite frankly it does better than any DSLRs under a grand anyway when it come to video, it does lose out for stills in many situations since it does not have lenses that can really help get a better shot. The new S20/21/22 had one sensor with really high resolution, over 100 MP which kills most DSLR sensors.
@tarcp6224
@tarcp6224 Рік тому
@@Breaker_o777 They're completely useless indoors, unless you have lighting specifically for shooting. GoPro needs a ton of light to provide at least phone quality image. I initially bought it for indoor use, and the first thing I said was that "I guess this is only for outdoor use". The bottom line is that GoPro is only for situations when you need extreme mobility.
@tommays56
@tommays56 2 роки тому
Epic in way only DCR could perform
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!!!!
@Rush-Media
@Rush-Media 2 роки тому
What a fantastic bunch of tests, cheers for doing that!
@heatherengelsman6527
@heatherengelsman6527 2 роки тому
Wow you are insanely thorough- I love this!
@dionblundell9733
@dionblundell9733 2 роки тому
Really helpful thanks. One thing you didn't specifically note, is so many cameras overheat because of the amount of data that has to be written. Gopro do well just getting it to work. Like you, I think it's a great camera. Thanks for taking the time to put some data behind things.
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
Yeah, it is pretty much why they needed a new chip for the 10, they had pushed the old one as far as it can go.
@EverythingIsPhotogenic
@EverythingIsPhotogenic 2 роки тому
Great work on this! I think people get out over their skis a bit when they get fixated on the overheating concerns. In 2021, people lose sight of what these cameras are ^designed^ to do and have, what I think, are unrealistic expectations. There is an expectation that these $400 dollar cameras at less than 4 inches (Diagonal) is somehow going to "do it all." Even $6K hybrid mirrorless cameras don't have an unlimited recording at high rates. In fact, recording over 30 minutes at 4K at lower frame rates can prove problematic on much more expensive devices released in the last 18 months - albeit at higher bitrates. I think the point is, that 99% of people who use this camera - even at higher frame rates - will never run into overheating at a typical use case. They will grab their clip, or maybe a 20-30 minute run in environments with an abundance of natural cooling and be very pleased with the results. Yes, setting up a locked-off camera to record non-stop at 4K 120 or 5.3K 60 has a decent chance of presenting some issues, but you have to ask why at that point. I think some people think the higher the frame rate, the better, not understanding that 120P has very specific use cases (If you've ever watched something published in 120P - it looks like a video game and is NOT appealing). Thus, when it's available, they crank the settings to max and just let it run just to edit into a 30FPS or 24FPS timeline. This is not an intelligent approach for any camera, least of all these small devices with minimal appreciable heat dissipation capacity. High frame rates at high resolution should be used strategically for cases where footage might be slowed down or published for something like a sports broadcast. If you really want to make sure you have the capability to use slow motion "just in case," for everyday users, 1080 at a high bitrate runs much cooler and is seemingly limited only by battery and memory card capacity at this point. 99.9 percent of people who watch your video will never know the difference unless they are watching it on a big screen - even that is questionable. Am I disappointed in the slight performance reduction "out of the box" over the 9? A little, but I also understand there is more processing work being done for settings that, at face value, are the same. It is more than just resolution and frame rate is increased on this camera, better stabilization, better screen quality and response, better color...and all those improvements are a net positive to the quality of the footage. I sort of expect, that with some time and use, we might see firmware updates that could buy some extra filming time - much like Canon was able to do with their R5/R6 models. Even with these limitations, GoPro still puts out the best video quality in the action cam market, and when I see people throw around blanket comparisons like "but DJI" or "Well, the Insta360," I find it pretty disingenuous. It doesn't take a film nerd to look at the footage and tell the difference. What each customer needs to decide is what are their priorities? If it's quality and depth understanding that there are limitations, use the GoPro. If it's additional recording length with a willingness to sacrifice a little quality, there are other alternatives that can generate serviceable results. Thanks again Ray for going through all the painstaking work that most people won't do on these devices.
@GoPro
@GoPro 2 роки тому
Thanks for this thoughtful comment + feedback. We’re committed to releasing firmware updates that will continue to improve HERO10 Black, so know - we are listening! And agreed…cheers to DC Rainmaker.
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
99% of 120FPS and 240 FPS is used for slow motion sequences.
@EverythingIsPhotogenic
@EverythingIsPhotogenic 2 роки тому
@@toriless no, while that is what those frame rates are made for, that is not what they are always used for by a public who os not educated with respect to the exposure triangle.
@trekOCLVone
@trekOCLVone Рік тому
@@GoPro New firmware I just found and installed this week 7/22/2022
@OurSwissAdventure
@OurSwissAdventure 2 роки тому
Thank you so much for doing all the tests! This is exactly the video I was looking for😁
@Pikmeir
@Pikmeir 2 роки тому
Thank you so much for doing this analysis. The information you gathered is super useful!
@FOVAirsoft
@FOVAirsoft 2 роки тому
My hero 10 recording for ~12mins and sitting for 30-40, took 5 games to overheat. (Indoors/4k120/boost/didn't turn it off/no battery/waterproof housing/back door cut for screen access/side whole cut to size for a usb-c, housing painted black) I also left it on, set to 4k120 sitting on my desk, not recording, and it got close to burning my fingers hot within 5-7 minutes. (battery installed, no door) I think if I turn it off in those 30 min periods I won't have any problems. So if you use the camera as i do, you should be fine.
@120spm
@120spm 2 роки тому
I'd assume the camera getting hot while not recording is due to Hindsight-Mode being active?
@FOVAirsoft
@FOVAirsoft 2 роки тому
hindsight mode turned off
@120spm
@120spm 2 роки тому
@@FOVAirsoft That's weird. One should assume that state would only require a very limited amount of energy.
@bladetc
@bladetc 2 роки тому
my Hero 9 had a overheating problem until i buy a new battery and it never happened again. For me it it was 100% a defective battery that started overheating in a few mins and kills the camera too. It was the batttery that was overheating, not the camera in my case. Hope it might helps.
@DontlookNoW_
@DontlookNoW_ 2 роки тому
Man this to much GoPro is bull Shyt!!!
@ArashFallah
@ArashFallah 2 роки тому
Giving Project Farm a run for his money with all the scenarios and jigging! :D
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Haha...he's at an entirely different level!
@medivoadmin
@medivoadmin 2 роки тому
You've made it clear for me....I was hesitating to buy it. Now i definitely get it...
@pietzaken2220
@pietzaken2220 2 роки тому
Awsome video, so much time went into this and the results are great! thanks for that!
@Affalterbach1967
@Affalterbach1967 2 роки тому
Submerging in non-boiling water or putting in a freezer is not how to test overheating. Set it on the dashboard of a south-facing (in USA) car and do a 200-hour hi-def livestream. Did it lose connection, glitch, freezer, or shutdown? Or at the 199th hour was the broadcast fine.
@plema79
@plema79 2 роки тому
HI Ray. Just a heads up that the cold battery alert you see at minute 9 is a known bug and will be fixed in the next release coming in November.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Aww, great! Good to know - thanks!
@dudesayHEY
@dudesayHEY 2 роки тому
Ray you did it again! Great informative video !
@bdouglas
@bdouglas 2 роки тому
Excellent analysis! Thank you! Seems I need a metal battery door as a heat sink. Done.
@KarimJovian
@KarimJovian 2 роки тому
I like using go pros for hidden cams in my social experiment videos and films. That’s why I love these things because of how small they are. This over heating thing scares me. So hopefully there is a setting in a firmware update you can switch to and from like for out and about and for static shooters. My hidden cams would be outdoors and indoors. So that isn’t a factor
@GregConquest
@GregConquest 2 роки тому
From many of the comparisons, it seems that the overheat time is near what the battery limit time is. So, you're going to have to either cool it down or change batteries even if it doesn't overheat. And if you can use an external battery, it won't overheat at all.
@AaronGoodTimes
@AaronGoodTimes 2 роки тому
I can see Ray one day doing teardown videos with a multimeter testing components and thermocouple temperature readings.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Haha...I wish!
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
@@Dcrainmaker I can send you a multimeter. I somehow ended up with two of them
@richardroskell3452
@richardroskell3452 2 роки тому
Great real world info and explanation of the 'issue.' Thanks!
@CheeseOnEverything
@CheeseOnEverything 2 роки тому
thnx for such intense tests. Takes a LOT of work.
@AZ_HikerBiker
@AZ_HikerBiker 2 роки тому
First off, I fully understand the limitations of filming at the highest resolution and frame rates. HOWEVER, when filming at the LOWEST rates, I have to say the Hero 9 (and based on reviews of the 10 overheating sooner than the 9) is a failure! While I wasn't always at the cutting edge of the Hero line, here's when I bought my previous GoPro's: 2011 = Hero 2013 = Hero 3 Black 2017 = Hero 6 Black I admit I live in Arizona and hike and/or mountain bike regularly in 100+ temps and both my Hero 3 and later Hero 6 could film 45-60 minute rides without overheating OR running out of battery life. The Hero 6 could even handle over an hour of non-stop filming (5-minute loops @1080/60) in 100+ degree temps on the front bumper of my Jeep (plugged in to an external power supply instead of the battery) while driving slow over rugged terrain with NO overheating issues. Ok, so being happy with those GoPro cameras, with all the hype of the 9 & 10 I figured it might be time to move up to being able to film at higher res/rates and took advantage of the Hero 9 Black online web deal. Spoiler alert: BIG mistake! First time out on my mountain bike filming at 2.7k it barely made 15 minutes before shutting down and it wouldn't turn back on, so I cut my ride short and went home thinking I'd do some research and figure out what the problem was. After glancing through a few forum threads the supposed consensus supposed remedy was to "Film at a lower resolution, lower frame rate and film short clips" Hmmmm. Ok, so all the latest and greatest features touted for Hero 9 Black compared to my "old" Hero 6 are just bull-puckey? Well let's find out. The next day I went biking to do an apples-to-apples side-by-side test between the Hero 6 and Hero 9. With both set at 1080/60/GPS OFF/No ProTune (essentially basic filming) and with 5-minute looping the 9 overheated and shut down within 15 minutes with battery down to 30% while the 6 was still filming showing battery at 76%. No point in beating a dead horse (dead Hero 9?) so I put it away and continued filming with the Hero 6. After 40 minutes out in the Arizona sun at an ambient temp of 95-98° the Hero 6 provided nice 5-minute clips @1080/60 with no complaint, whereas even when it was filming, the 9 only created 1-minute clips. So, back home I call GoPro to see what can be done about the overheating and 1-minute loops. After a 45 minute call to GoPro in an attempt to fix the failed looping (only creates 60-second clips whether set at 5 or 20 minutes) and still no joy, I returned the Hero 9. Thank you GoPro for the relatively pain-free return process! (but then with plenty of returns to streamline the process it's all one could expect.) The 9 & 10 may be fine for short clips and/or in cool weather but what's the point of 5.3K if you have to set it at 1080 for longer clips? Actually, leveling and smoothing were the only features on the 9 that I would have wished for on the 6, but not at the cost of overheating and terrible battery life. No thanks, I'll stick with the Hero 6 and be done with GoPro's.
@lawrencedee4493
@lawrencedee4493 2 роки тому
Makes me wonder if you have a defective unit?
@AZ_HikerBiker
@AZ_HikerBiker 2 роки тому
@@lawrencedee4493 It most definitely it is/was a defective unit, in more ways than one. However, based on the myriad of folks complaining about various issues, overheating in particular (in various online forums including the GoPro community) I have to believe the defects are in the design and/or engineering. If not, why are the SAME issues cropping up from what, the Hero 7 onward? More thorough testing PRIOR to release of EVERY Hero should have been #1 priority instead of the broken record of "We are working on further firmware improvements for HERO(insert model # here) based on your feedback..." What? You didn't get enough feedback from the 8, or 9 to figure out what issues could have been avoided with the next generation Hero? While I would LOVE GoPro to at least fix the big issues and be open & honest in their advertising about the capabilities AND limitations of their "action" cameras, the fact that I haven't seen any movement in that direction over the last few years I've pretty much decided I'm no longer going to be a GoPro guinea pig. On the other hand, as a former software test engineer, if GoPro would provide me a camera to test and return with a list of issues to fix, I'd be fine with that, I just won't be fronting any cash.
@CaliradoKid
@CaliradoKid 2 роки тому
I came here for a "thorough" review. Instead I find that he didn't even fly to Dubai for this test. Unbelievable. Poor form. 😂
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Any other year…I very well probably would have…
@CaliradoKid
@CaliradoKid 2 роки тому
@@Dcrainmaker Haha! Seriously though. Love the work you put in to these videos. So good!
@kroko9691
@kroko9691 2 роки тому
Wow, appreciate your work a lot - Thx Ray!
@teknobear
@teknobear 9 місяців тому
excellent video and great information on how to get past the GoPro issue.
@MrWingtip
@MrWingtip 2 роки тому
Excellent job. That was a lot of work and I appreciate it, thanks.
@Sal4Ro
@Sal4Ro 2 роки тому
Wow, you certainly put in the work, thanks for sharing.
@phuctran-dh3le
@phuctran-dh3le 11 місяців тому
Thank you for all the effort man, much helped !!!
@mamadjun
@mamadjun 2 роки тому
Excellent review. Thank you and keep up the good work.
@krane15
@krane15 2 роки тому
You went above and beyond the call of duty. How can I not hit that like button.
@mike_2366
@mike_2366 2 роки тому
Hey bro, nice video and congrats on all that hard (and most interesting) work. Been considering to get a Go Pro Hero 10 recently, mostly for mountain bike riding and some sports bike riding videos. The overheating thing had me thinking for a bit but i found your video quite clear on the subject! Thanks for that mate 🤟 cheers
@MORTONRICK
@MORTONRICK 2 роки тому
You're the best. Thanks again for a great informative video.
@danialhawari7085
@danialhawari7085 2 роки тому
Thank you very much for your time!
@coffeecodecreatine4158
@coffeecodecreatine4158 2 роки тому
Dude! I was using my go pro in my garage yesterday and it over heated in 20 mins just sitting still. Thought I had a defective unit until I found this video! Thanks for going down the rabbit hole.
@toriless
@toriless 2 роки тому
It appears you need to have a Dyson fan (quiet) blowing at it to use it indoors.
@clissonplage
@clissonplage 2 роки тому
really thank you for this test
@groundedfilms5877
@groundedfilms5877 2 роки тому
Great video man appreciate all the testing you did 👊👊👊
@vwmusicplaylist1935
@vwmusicplaylist1935 8 місяців тому
Really really useful video and brilliant for users - A+++ to you sir!
@cerberusnights
@cerberusnights 2 роки тому
Fantastic thank you for all your time and effort 👍🏻
@martinperezjr.9280
@martinperezjr.9280 Рік тому
This that old school UKposts content. Soooo good.
@misibo
@misibo 2 роки тому
Great Test - Thank you very much. Greetings from Germany, stay healthy!
@JG-oc9gc
@JG-oc9gc 2 роки тому
Yes yes yes! This is exactly what I was looking for!! THANK YOU!!!
@Curtis-Randall
@Curtis-Randall 2 роки тому
Thank you for doing real tests!
@ProTechEpoxyFloors
@ProTechEpoxyFloors 2 роки тому
Thanks, great video, right to the point. You have done some practical tests which really represent some real-world use. I was really on the fence about getting the 10. After seeing your video I think I will go with it afterall.
@AndrewKYIV
@AndrewKYIV 2 роки тому
Thank you for so explicit and detailed test ! And yes, separately for recommend beer set in fridge ;-) 🍻
@quasarleon4645
@quasarleon4645 2 роки тому
Excellent research . Thanks so much for investing so much time ....
@matad311
@matad311 2 роки тому
Great work on this video! I wasn’t worried about the overheating personally because I use mine outdoors with air flow in a action setting 90% of the time! But this video is awesome to show someone that is worried about the overheating issue.
@iamleek
@iamleek 2 роки тому
Thank you very much for the Great Effort to produce this useful video on HeroGoPro 10
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
Thanks!
@christopherbritt4726
@christopherbritt4726 2 роки тому
WOW this was very helpful to us in our business! You must have put so many hours into this research. We regularly film our events with cameras running usually for an hour at a time, sometimes 1:15. Thank you so much for your efforts here! - Chris Britt, HeliBacon
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 роки тому
No problem! Don't forget to grab the latest firmware, which has new options that came out after this video, to help significantly.
@Borsia
@Borsia Рік тому
Great video Thanks I'm a newbie to GoPro just bought a 10 so all good to know.
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